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		<title>By: Dr. Conspiracy</title>
		<link>http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/01/the-great-mother-of-all-natural-born-citizen-quotation-pages/#comment-37460</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Conspiracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 04:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Jim Buzzell&lt;/strong&gt;: &lt;em&gt;I am not closed minded.&lt;/em&gt;

Now you are being downright silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Jim Buzzell</strong>: <em>I am not closed minded.</em></p>
<p>Now you are being downright silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Conspiracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Conspiracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 04:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Jim Buzzell&lt;/strong&gt;:&lt;em&gt; Please explain’ What does the term “of parents who are citizens” mean?&lt;/em&gt;

Perhaps the following will help you understand:



&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Department of Veterans Affairs will send a burial flag to the children of parents who are deceased members of the armed forces.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Question: how many deceased military parents are required to get a burial flag?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Jim Buzzell</strong>:<em> Please explain’ What does the term “of parents who are citizens” mean?</em></p>
<p>Perhaps the following will help you understand:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The Department of Veterans Affairs will send a burial flag to the children of parents who are deceased members of the armed forces.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Question: how many deceased military parents are required to get a burial flag?</p>
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		<title>By: G</title>
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		<dc:creator>G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim Buzzell says: 
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-37416&quot;&gt;

I submit that the electoral college, the president of the senate and the congressional representation all abdicated their constitutional duties by ignoring Obama’s citizenship, dual citizenship and not asking for objection from the full body before confirming the vote.We all know one of those representatives was trying to get the attention of the Speaker and VP but failed before the vote was taken.Why the conspiracy, only “god” knows.Your second point, until Obama produces his sealed personal records as far as I am concerned he is not a citizen of this nation; much less a Natural Born Citizen.If you can “Prove” wrong I am willing to listen.I am not closed minded.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So, on one hand, we have Jim Buzzell, who gives us his personal speculation and opinion (and that is all it is), with no evidence or support to back up anything he postulates.

For Jim&#039;s scenario to be even remotely possible, somehow every single member of the electoral college and congress has to be either completely incompetent or all in on some &quot;vast conspiracy&quot; together and that absolutely no one else who has involvement and responsibility to deal with such matters notices at any time along the way, even the candidates opponents, who spent the past 2 years doing every thing they could to bring him down and win against him.

For Jim&#039;s highly laughable and implausible scenario, you have to believe that he somehow mysteriously knows better than *everyone else*.

A simpler explanation is that there were no problems with Obama&#039;s eligibility and everyone involved along the way simply did their jobs and certified an election to the candidate who handily and clearly one and hence, Obama has been POTUS for well over a year now.

Gee, last time I looked, Obama is President. Who cares what you personally think, Jim? You just sound like some crazy crank spouting off nutty stuff or still pouting because you&#039;re not happy with who got elected. So what? Why does your opinion matter? Because it sure doesn&#039;t to me.

Whine and cry all you want and nothing changes the fact that Obama is President until the next election. Then you can have your chance to vote again for someone else. Of course, if Obama is reelected, I guess you&#039;ll just have to return to pouting and spouting nonsense sore-loser excuses for another 4 years.

No one has to &quot;prove&quot; anything to you. Why should we care what you think at all? What makes you so special? (Hint: you&#039;re not).

Turn on the TV or read the papers and when they reference the President speaking or doing something, they will show Obama.  There&#039;s your proof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Buzzell says: </p>
<blockquote cite="comment-37416">
<p>I submit that the electoral college, the president of the senate and the congressional representation all abdicated their constitutional duties by ignoring Obama’s citizenship, dual citizenship and not asking for objection from the full body before confirming the vote.We all know one of those representatives was trying to get the attention of the Speaker and VP but failed before the vote was taken.Why the conspiracy, only “god” knows.Your second point, until Obama produces his sealed personal records as far as I am concerned he is not a citizen of this nation; much less a Natural Born Citizen.If you can “Prove” wrong I am willing to listen.I am not closed minded.
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<p>So, on one hand, we have Jim Buzzell, who gives us his personal speculation and opinion (and that is all it is), with no evidence or support to back up anything he postulates.</p>
<p>For Jim&#8217;s scenario to be even remotely possible, somehow every single member of the electoral college and congress has to be either completely incompetent or all in on some &#8220;vast conspiracy&#8221; together and that absolutely no one else who has involvement and responsibility to deal with such matters notices at any time along the way, even the candidates opponents, who spent the past 2 years doing every thing they could to bring him down and win against him.</p>
<p>For Jim&#8217;s highly laughable and implausible scenario, you have to believe that he somehow mysteriously knows better than *everyone else*.</p>
<p>A simpler explanation is that there were no problems with Obama&#8217;s eligibility and everyone involved along the way simply did their jobs and certified an election to the candidate who handily and clearly one and hence, Obama has been POTUS for well over a year now.</p>
<p>Gee, last time I looked, Obama is President. Who cares what you personally think, Jim? You just sound like some crazy crank spouting off nutty stuff or still pouting because you&#8217;re not happy with who got elected. So what? Why does your opinion matter? Because it sure doesn&#8217;t to me.</p>
<p>Whine and cry all you want and nothing changes the fact that Obama is President until the next election. Then you can have your chance to vote again for someone else. Of course, if Obama is reelected, I guess you&#8217;ll just have to return to pouting and spouting nonsense sore-loser excuses for another 4 years.</p>
<p>No one has to &#8220;prove&#8221; anything to you. Why should we care what you think at all? What makes you so special? (Hint: you&#8217;re not).</p>
<p>Turn on the TV or read the papers and when they reference the President speaking or doing something, they will show Obama.  There&#8217;s your proof.</p>
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		<title>By: Scientist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scientist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By law, an objection must be made in writing and signed by at least 1 Representative and 1 Senator.  A valid objection was made regarding the Ohio votes in the 2004 election and was considered and rejected.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/06/electoral.vote/index.html

Are you saying that Republicans are too stupid to follow the proper procedure as the Democrats did in the preceding election?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By law, an objection must be made in writing and signed by at least 1 Representative and 1 Senator.  A valid objection was made regarding the Ohio votes in the 2004 election and was considered and rejected.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/06/electoral.vote/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/06/electoral.vote/index.html</a></p>
<p>Are you saying that Republicans are too stupid to follow the proper procedure as the Democrats did in the preceding election?</p>
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		<title>By: Whatever4</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whatever4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Jim Buzzell says&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;i&gt; We all know one of those representatives was trying to get the attention of the Speaker and VP but failed before the vote was taken. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Really? Who? Where is his interview on Fox claiming so? Have you watched the video? The boring long one where each state is called, the vote counts taken, everyone is quiet and orderly? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcGt8hQZzg4&amp;feature=related&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This one? &lt;/a&gt;  No one objects to any of the individual state votes. For 25 minutes, your objector keeps quiet, with plenty of opportunity to make a scene (as the Democrats did when Al Gore was presiding over the Bush/Gore electoral count) yet no one did. Finally, at 27:33, after VP announces the final count and says it will be written in the Journals of the Senate, Everyone stands, hoots and hollars, and someone waves. THAT&#039;S the objection? What a wimpy gesture. Congresspeople are not that shy.

Some people think that the guy is U.S. Rep. Steven C. LaTourette (R-Ohio), sitting next to U.S. Rep Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio). According to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whorunsgov.com/Profiles/Steven_C._LaTourette&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WhoRunsGov: &lt;/a&gt; 

&quot;He has grown increasingly independent of his party, garnering low grades from conservative watchdog groups like the American Conservative Union for his tendency to break away from the party line.&quot;

THAT guy was objecting? Really? Here&#039;s my evidence that he wasn&#039;t objecting. Where&#039;s yours?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><b>Jim Buzzell says</b>:<i> We all know one of those representatives was trying to get the attention of the Speaker and VP but failed before the vote was taken. </i></p></blockquote>
<p>Really? Who? Where is his interview on Fox claiming so? Have you watched the video? The boring long one where each state is called, the vote counts taken, everyone is quiet and orderly? <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcGt8hQZzg4&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">This one? </a>  No one objects to any of the individual state votes. For 25 minutes, your objector keeps quiet, with plenty of opportunity to make a scene (as the Democrats did when Al Gore was presiding over the Bush/Gore electoral count) yet no one did. Finally, at 27:33, after VP announces the final count and says it will be written in the Journals of the Senate, Everyone stands, hoots and hollars, and someone waves. THAT&#8217;S the objection? What a wimpy gesture. Congresspeople are not that shy.</p>
<p>Some people think that the guy is U.S. Rep. Steven C. LaTourette (R-Ohio), sitting next to U.S. Rep Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio). According to <a href="http://www.whorunsgov.com/Profiles/Steven_C._LaTourette" rel="nofollow">WhoRunsGov: </a> </p>
<p>&#8220;He has grown increasingly independent of his party, garnering low grades from conservative watchdog groups like the American Conservative Union for his tendency to break away from the party line.&#8221;</p>
<p>THAT guy was objecting? Really? Here&#8217;s my evidence that he wasn&#8217;t objecting. Where&#8217;s yours?</p>
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