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You can’t tell a book…

This blog is about Obama Conspiracy Theories–but you knew that. With some web sites, it’s not so obvious. For example:

The Federalist Blog

The Federalists were founders of our country like George Washington, and John Marshall. The were in favor of a larger role for the federal government compared to the Republicans (or Democrat-Republicans) such as Thomas Jefferson who was an ardent supporter of states rights. However, The Federalist Blog is anything but Federalist, arguing for example that the Federal government lacks the power of eminent domain within a state. I mention this blog  because it’s principal author (and I guess owner) P. A. Madison (not his real name) argues against natural born citizenship for the children of non-citizen immigrants like President Obama.

A Place to Ask Questions To Get the Right Answers

One might think this was a web site akin to Yahoo Answers, or Ask.com. But it is actually a web site devoted publicizing the views of the Kerchner v. Obama lawsuit. While opinion may vary, I think this is not the place to get the right answers on the topics it covers.

Defend Our Freedoms Community

Rather than being related to defense of freedom, this web site collects and publishes articles critical of President Obama.

American Grand Jury

This web site is not really the web site of a grand jury, but another birther site.

Family Security Matters

One might think this related to personal and family security, how to keep burglars out of your house. It’s not. It is a right-wing web site that  publishes birther information. It’s more about linking Obama to Bill Ayers than anything to do with security.

God Save America

More accurately, this might be God Save America from President Obama. It’s a front for the “citizen grand jury movement”.

I contrast these web sites with ones whose titles leave no question as to their content: Obama Crimes, Stop-Obama, Obama Waffles,  and Nigger Obama. Links to these web sites on my bookmarks page.

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44 Responses to You can’t tell a book…

  1. avatar
    thisoldhippie September 28, 2009 at 8:25 pm #

    This is my new favorite weird one. Everyday it’s a new way of saying something’s going to happen.

    http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1254097763

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    misha September 28, 2009 at 8:38 pm #

    I went to the site. Here’s my favorite part: “Inventing a motion picture camera that worked properly was the easy part for Edison. Keeping the Jews from using the camera without paying him royalties for his invention was the hard part.” It gets worse.

    And it’s from some fundie church in Louisiana. Why am I not surprised?

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    nBc September 28, 2009 at 9:03 pm #

    You can’t always tell a book…
    Check out the site ‘nigger obama’

    An uncensored look at the Obama presidency and racism in America.
    April 7 2009
    Nigger Obama

    My name is Josh. I’m a pretty liberal guy with friends who range from black to White to Asian and Hispanic. I love our new black president. In fact, I am black myself. I’m a democrat and a proud Barack Obama supporter. I even donated money to his campaign in 2008

    A while ago I noticed that each month thousands of people were googling the phrase “nigger obama”. (Last month 14,800 searched the term “nigger obama”.) I found this interesting and checked to see if the domain niggerobama.com was available for sale. It was, so I bought it. I had no idea what I was going to do with this domain name, but I figured it was at least better to have niggerobama.com in the hands of an Obama supporter rather than some racist white supremacists.

    After a few weeks I decided to install a forum and let whoever wanted to comment in an uncensored, unmonitored fashion. That way I wouldn’t have to write or respond to anything myself. I could just let people come and write whatever they felt like. Before long niggerobama.com had climbed to the top of the google search results and all sorts of crazy comments populated the pages. There were people who loved Obama arguing with people who hated blacks. There were people who hated Mexicans, Indians and anything non-white. I left the site up for over a year and I learned a lot about how certain portions of the American population feel about all sorts of issues.

    No one realized the site was owned by a black man the whole time. Ha ha.

    Now I’ve decided to flip the script and use the site to blog about some of the things I’ve learned by means of reading the writings of racists during the age of Obama.

  4. avatar
    Mary Brown September 28, 2009 at 9:59 pm #

    My pastor said in his sermon this Sunday that when you use Christ for an agenda he is no longer there. And this stuff has gone on for how long?

  5. avatar
    nBc September 28, 2009 at 10:14 pm #

    Sad to see how fellow Christians seem to so poorly understand His teachings.

  6. avatar
    kimba September 28, 2009 at 10:38 pm #

    Blech, I can’t look anymore. I get enough reading Sally Hill and Mario on this blog.

  7. avatar
    kimba September 28, 2009 at 10:54 pm #

    HA! The peoples are not liking being pwned by Josh. ( Josh is kinda cute too!)

  8. avatar
    Pluto September 28, 2009 at 11:15 pm #

    nBc: You can’t always tell a book…
    Check out the site nigger obama’

    I also went to that site to see what the bigots were saying and got quite a kick. Idiot racists still expressing their outrage, though and the way they’re being tolerated and ridiculed must drive ’em crazy.

    You do have to back off the last few characters on the link though to get to the site.
    http://niggerobama.com/

  9. avatar
    Bob September 29, 2009 at 12:29 am #

    Judge Carter grants Taitz’s motion to file a surreply.

    And Taitz, again, totally misinterprets exactly what the judge granted.

  10. avatar
    Gordon September 29, 2009 at 1:10 am #

    The comments are beyond sad.

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    NBC September 29, 2009 at 1:27 am #

    Expect another smackdown… Will Orly ever learn…

  12. avatar
    misha September 29, 2009 at 1:37 am #

    Can you imagine her as a dentist?

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    Lupin September 29, 2009 at 2:50 am #

    I think I’m the one who brought up Israeli citizenship on this blog, and judging from the conversations here, I’m not pretty convinced that the unspoken (and perhaps even unconscious) birther agenda goes beyond Obama and is a way to downgrade the citizenship status, disenfranchise if you will, the children of minorities such as African-Americans, Jewish-Americans and Latino-Americans because of their “dual allegiances”.

    Twenty years ago, there was a delightful episode of MURPHY BROWN in which Wallace Shawn plays the sock puppet/public face fired by a right-wing movement to defend their opinions on TV, in effect, put up a good face on truly horrible ideas.

    After sweating bullets when confronted by Murphy, he finally comes out with his prepared speech, which starts: “Slavery is such an ugly word…” before he can’t take it any more.

    Reinstating slavery is just as illusory as getting Obama’s election annulled; yet, Seditious Mario and his ilk pursue the same agenda, no matter how pointless, because its very real results are to block, harass and stir up hatred against minorities.

    Americans trust in their Constitution to ultimately render such lunatics harmless, which is why you have your first Amendment. I’m afraid I do not share your optimism.

    During my student years one of my teachers was a Chilean who had managed to escape Pinochet’s bloody purges, and he would never tire from emphasizing that Chile too had a legal system and a supreme court that were supposed to prevent what happened; but ultimately none of that mattered, because the ideologues on the right had stirred up enough hatred against the “communists”.

    Ultimately it doesn’t matter if Apuzzo and the others win; in fact, it probably better for their cause if they lose; that way they will generate even more hatred and resentment.

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    kimba September 29, 2009 at 7:35 am #

    I agree completely that the agenda goes beyond Obama. That’s what’s behind the theory that there is a class of citizens who were born here, but are not eligible to be President. If that theory wins or gains ground, it wouldn’t be long before it was proposed that the rights of that third class of citizens be even more restricted. The dual citizenship argument is no accident, because it covers so many black, brown and non-Christian people. The birthers didn’t think this stuff up by themselves. I truly believe the theories of birtherdom are being fed to them by the neo-cons. That group needs to marginalized off the radar, starting with Liz Cheney and Bill Kristol, and their new puppet Sister Sarah Palin.

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    Sally Hill September 29, 2009 at 9:06 am #

    Yeah, I can definitely see how this comment is unbiased: “There were people who loved Obama arguing with people who hated blacks.”

    HAHAHAHAHAH

    This guy had some credability with me until that one statement. I stopped reading and wrote him off.

    When you compare and contrast with a red herring thrown in the mix, it doesn’t quite work. Now, if he had said: There are people who love Obama arguing with people who hate Obama….that would have flown….but the way he sets up his argument makes the argument that if you do not love Obama, you hate blacks.

    Didn’t you people take Critical Thinking Skills classes in school? You know, the class where you were taught what round reasoning is and how to avoid it….but then again, maybe that was exactly his intent.

    He might have pwned many, but he didn’t pwn me. I’m not buying what he is selling.

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    Sally Hill September 29, 2009 at 9:29 am #

    And we all know the title of your blog is spot on – NOT. You even place ALL your topics under the heading of “Conspiracies”. Humm…so Ask a Theorist is actually a conspiracies in and of itself?

    You make it appear as though there are unlimited and available domain names that would speak directly the intent of the blog. And while I will give you the fact that some blog titles are misleading – is there really anything wrong with that? I mean – it is still America, right? America, where people are free to use their mind and their mouse to click the ‘back button’ when they come across something they choose not to read?

    The Federalist Blog
    You don’t like this blog because it goes against your ideology and blogging purposes. I see nothing wrong with the name.

    A Place to Ask Questions To Get the Right Answers
    Oh, come on Dr. C. I know you are smarter than this. You don’t get the play on words? Are you too jaded by your plight that you can’t see the forrest for the trees? I absolutely love this blog title – I like it when people use their imaginations and are creative, I guess not so much for the doctor here.

    Defend Our Freedoms Community
    So, just because YOU don’t think Obama is destroying our Freedoms, then this is a bad bad title. What if you did believe that? Then this would be a good title. Frankly, I’m surprised, I thought you had a bit more tolerance than most bloggers. So, titles of blogs must ONLY adhear to pro-Obama stances? Geeze – and we used to be so free here in America, before Obama and the Pro-Obama bloggers.

    American Grand Jury
    Doesn’t it have something to do with the Citizen Grand Jury that was put together specifically to force litigation of the Obama birth issues? So, again, if the blog opposes Obama, then the name misleads if it has anything to do with anti-Obama?

    Family Security Matters
    Burglars out of my house? LOL LOL LOL
    Personally, I believe there is a HUGE connection between Ayers and Obama – much more than ‘he was just a guy in my neighborhood’. Connecting those two would definitely be about personal family security – I have no idea where you got burglars from that name though. I think are you reaching on that one.
    But I see the connection in the name and the content – but then I’m not pro-Obama, maybe that has something to do with ‘getting it’.

    God Save America
    Ah ha! You do get these titles – you just needed something to gripe about the anti-Obama bloggers – slow blogging day? I think you nailed it correctly – God Save America from President Obama. I have no problems understanding their intent – and apparently you don’t either. Brownie points for at least ‘getting’ this one.

    I contrast these web sites with ones whose titles leave no question as to their content: Nigger Obama – this is anti-Obama? According to a post in the comment section, this one is actually PRO-Obama – or at the very least – just a blog with no stated purpose.

    But then to admit that, would be to blow your theory right out of the water. I would imagine the same could be said for both pro and anti-Obama cites, as far as blog names go. But then to admit that, would mean your post was really just an unfounded rant.

    Come on, Dr. C. Every arguement has two sides. I am not daft enough to only read what I want to hear. I may very well be Cotton Mather Crazy, but I come here to get the ‘other side’ of the argument. Not a bunch of sorta halfway related or far reaching ideas. Give me something to make my mind work, not this crap. There are lots of new things going on with regards to Obama’s NBC status – how about commenting on them and your thoughts on the inaccuracies and misstatements?

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    Paul Pieniezny September 29, 2009 at 10:12 am #

    Sally Hill: Yeah, I can definitely see how this comment is unbiased: “There were people who loved Obama arguing with people who hated blacks.”HAHAHAHAHAHThis guy had some credability with me until that one statement. I stopped reading and wrote him off.When you compare and contrast with a red herring thrown in the mix, it doesn’t quite work. Now, if he had said: There are people who love Obama arguing with people who hate Obama….that would have flown….but the way he sets up his argument makes the argument that if you do not love Obama, you hate blacks.Didn’t you people take Critical Thinking Skills classes in school? You know, the class where you were taught what round reasoning is and how to avoid it….but then again, maybe that was exactly his intent.He might have pwned many, but he didn’t pwn me. I’m not buying what he is selling.

    No, he was saying that there were a) people there who loved Obama and there were b) people there who hated blacks. I have looked at the comments and did not see any comment by c) people who hated Obama but loved blacks. So, he was right to say what he said.

    You say you were not PWNed. So are you confessing that you visited? What does that make you then? Of course, the reason why you were not PWNed could be that you never visited at all and only got to know about it now. What does that make you then?

  18. avatar
    Greg September 29, 2009 at 10:13 am #

    Um, you don’t think that maybe people who went to a website titled “niggerobama” might hate blacks?

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    Black Lion September 29, 2009 at 10:37 am #

    Kimba and Lupin, you are actually right. If you look at the commenters on the Mario’s or Orly’s blogs, they identify themselves as “Revolutionary War Hero”, “12th Generation American”, “14th Generation American”, and “Full Blooded American”. Why do they identify themselves in this way? I believe it is to somehow make the point that they are the only so called “true Americans”. Like somehow if you were a 1st generation American, or were naturalized, you are somehow less of an American. That is the end product of Mario’s so called theory. That there could be some sort of third class of citizen, born here but not equal to the so called “natural born” citizen. It does remind people of the 1950’s and the “Jim Crow” era when people of color were considered to be lesser citizens even though they were born in the US.

  20. avatar
    Bob September 29, 2009 at 10:39 am #

    Didn’t you people take Critical Thinking Skills classes in school?

    I would award this the Ironic Comment of the Day award, but Apuzzo hasn’t posted yet.

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    Black Lion September 29, 2009 at 10:46 am #

    It is funny reading the most recent posting by Orly. She has really misread Judge Carter’s rulings. And what is more interesting is the “evidence” she is planning on presenting. And I use the word evidence in it’s most basic sense. She is still pushing the “Donald Young” murder and the “Lt. Quarles” murder as some sort of conspiracy. You can’t make this stuff up. And I wonder why the birthers think they have a chance at winning…

    A very good day today
    Posted on | September 28, 2009 | No Comments

    I think all those prayers help. Today I had two of my motions granted.

    1. Judge Carter had granted my motion for surreply. I can provide 10 more pages of argument and all the necessary attachments by October 1st.

    a number of my supporters and followers have sent FOIA requests for information. It is hard for me to find some of them amongst over 80,000 e-mails. If you had sent FOIA requests and did or did not get answers, please e-mail to me under heading FOIA to dr_taitz @yahoo.com.

    If you send requests for info on tampering with passport records, send those to me.

    I need those two FOIA requests of the Selective service certificate. ( I remember there were 2 with different info provided by the government)

    I need FOIA requests for info on travel, passport records and other state dep info.

    Mr. Ken Allen -I need certified copies from you ASAP.

    Mr. Chris Strunk I need certified copies from you ASAP

    My buddy Devvy Kidd- I need certified copies from you – particularly from the registrars of the u of Wa and HI (Stanley Ann Dunham’s alma mater in 1961 was U of WA not U of HI)- the copies you sent me weren’t notarized.

    I need a certified copy and affidavit from MR. Wilson- about 2 certificates of candidate signed by Pelosi.

    Did anyone already send send a FOIA on that one

    Will this Miss Trigy provide a cert. copy?

    I need an affidavit, FOIA request and whatever you have in re to homicide of Lt. Querles Harris and Donald Young

    Any FOIA requests for info from Kapiolani hospital, Queens hospital and S traub clinic?

    Mr. Kurt Fuqua-I need you cert copies.

    Any FOIA requests on the arrests of Vivek Kundra and Aqair ( according to WA times forged birth certificates were found at the apartment of Aqair – assistant chief of cyber security for Obama)

    Any FOIA requests for the unredacted report on the passport tampering.

    I will provide more info tomorrow.

    2. Judge Land in GA granted my motion to withdraw as counsel. the reason, i had to do it, since Cpt Connie Rhodes was under tremendous pressure, intimidation by the military and department of defense and she stated that she didn’t want to proceed under this pressure. Now I don’t have my hands tied behind my back, I can provide more info, now I can do more on my own behalf.

    3. I am submitting today a notice of appeal in FL on behalf of Major Cook . While his orders to deploy were revoked by the military, he was a victim of retaliation and the military pressured his employer to fire him. We are seeking damages. Notice of appeal in GA was already filed.

    4. as you know, I came from South Dakota yesterday, where I had a very productive meeting with the community leaders. State House of Representatives Majority Whip has shown interest in working on this matter. I have forwarded documents to him. He will be holding meetings with other legislators this coming weekend

    I appreciate all the donations. Those help pay for $450 each appeal form, $400 or so each transcript, $500-600 each airplane ticket and so on.

    Special thanks to Donna and Garland Petersen, their twins and grandma Betty (name sake of my grandma) for their great hospitality in South Dakota. I will post the pictures and video, when I get them.

  22. avatar
    Greg September 29, 2009 at 10:48 am #

    I think you need to quote it in full:

    Didn’t you people take Critical Thinking Skills classes in school? You know, the class where you were taught what round reasoning is and how to avoid it.

  23. avatar
    Bob September 29, 2009 at 10:56 am #

    Must avoid round reasoning!

  24. avatar
    Bob September 29, 2009 at 11:34 am #

    For the Ironic Posting (Elsewhere) of the Day Award: Sam Sewell (proud Mensa member) of the Steady Drip says, “As a Mensa member I have long known about how intellectuals fall in love with their own ideas to the extent that they make colossal mistakes.”

  25. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 29, 2009 at 12:08 pm #

    I used to be a member of Mensa, but it was boring.

  26. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 29, 2009 at 12:13 pm #

    Not “round reasoning”, “round and round reasoning”. Totally different thing.

  27. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 29, 2009 at 12:22 pm #

    Sally Hill: The Federalist Blog, You don’t like this blog because it goes against your ideology and blogging purposes. I see nothing wrong with the name.

    You missed the point. The “Federalist Blog” espouses views which are extremely anti-Federalist. It is not that I disagree with their position on eminent domain, it’s just that their position is not “Federalist” but rather “states rights”.

  28. avatar
    nBc September 29, 2009 at 12:28 pm #

    She also has a real estate license I believe… With her foreclosure business with her ‘partner’ there are golden futures …

  29. avatar
    SFJeff September 29, 2009 at 12:31 pm #

    What does surreply mean anyway?

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    Bob September 29, 2009 at 12:47 pm #

    You missed the point. The “Federalist Blog” espouses views which are extremely anti-Federalist.

    Yes; their logo is a silhouette of James Madison. Although Madison co-wrote The Federalist Papers, he himself was in opposition to the original Federalist Party.

    They use they word “federalist” in the “new federalism” sort of way, i.e., the United States is a federation of local governments (states that are united), and not solely a national government.

  31. avatar
    Bob September 29, 2009 at 12:50 pm #

    She also has a real estate license I believe

    Taitz’s real estate license is expired.

  32. avatar
    Bob September 29, 2009 at 12:55 pm #

    What does surreply mean anyway?

    A reply to a reply.

    In court, usually the moving party will file a motion (or opening brief), the opposing party will file an opposition (or responding brief), and then the moving party gets the last say by filing a reply.

    Replies to replies are not normally allowed, so Taitz had to ask the court’s permission to get the last word in.

    What Judge Carter did was fair: the government did introduce something new in its reply (which you aren’t supposed to do), so Taitz should have an opportunity to argue against it.

    But Taitz, being Taitz, has decided that means it is OK to anything and everything onto Judge Carter.

  33. avatar
    kimba September 29, 2009 at 1:06 pm #

    “All those prayers help.”

    She thinks God’s on her side. I hope He’s keeping our President safe.

  34. avatar
    kimba September 29, 2009 at 1:10 pm #

    I used to work with a guy who was a mensa member. He tried for years to get me to take the mensa test. I guess he thought the test was going to tell him if he was smarter than me. I liked the fact that he wasn’t sure he knew without seeing a test score and it bugged him, so I never took it.

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    Nobody September 29, 2009 at 1:10 pm #

    The moving party always gets the last word, so the government will have a chance to respond to the surreply.

    It seems that Orly wants to bring in everything but the kitchen sink in her surreply, the governments response should be entertaining.

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    kimba September 29, 2009 at 1:13 pm #

    If you read the comments at the site, you would know what Josh said is true. But let me spell it out so even a southern racist like you would understand. His site attracted the kind of people that would google “ni**er” and “obama” together. People who just don’t like Obama wouldn’t do that.

  37. avatar
    kimba September 29, 2009 at 1:15 pm #

    I wonder how Ole Sam is doing with his “OMG moment”? Do you think he can still see it coming? How long has it been, like 6 months? He should stick to selling Shaklee vitamins

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    kimba September 29, 2009 at 1:19 pm #

    My sister knew nothing about Orly Taitz until Jon Stewart did that story about her on The Daily Show where he called her Orly Taitz – attorney, dentist and real estate agent. She thought it was hilarious. Then I told her Orly was also a tae kwon do black belt and my sister laughed so hard I thought she was going to have a seizure. Now she follows the antics of Orly just for amusement, calls and starts out “did you see what that crazzzzzy woman did today?”

  39. avatar
    Bob September 29, 2009 at 1:21 pm #

    The moving party always gets the last word

    Normally, but the government would have to file a motion to file a sur-surreply. And doubtful that will happen, as Taitz’s surreply is due October 1, and October 2 is the only other court day before the October 5 hearing. (And Judge Carter didn’t mention a sur-reply in his order.)

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    nBc September 29, 2009 at 1:41 pm #

    But Taitz, being Taitz, has decided that means it is OK to anything and everything onto Judge Carter.

    She will soon find out what Judge Carter will think of that… And of course, the more is added, the more will be rejected as res judicata and stare decisis in the future.

    But yes, Orly has, almost predictably, hinted that she will be using the sur-reply as a means to get her second amended complaint/motion in place.

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    nBc September 29, 2009 at 1:44 pm #

    The time is running out and if Orly decides to introduce new arguments and claims, there may be two possible outcomes

    1. The hearing on Oct 5 will be delayed and the January deadline will certainly be missed.

    2. The hearing on Oct 5 will continue and the case will be dismissed based on lack of standing, and abstention.

    The Government’s response will be a motion to strike the sur-reply or the parts of the sur-reply not addressing the issues raised by the Government.

    If they have more time to respond, indeed things may be even more entertaining. Orly is no match for these lawyers…

  42. avatar
    AdrianInFlorida September 29, 2009 at 2:04 pm #

    “–And jack, you do the research in the legal library, Free Republic. They seem to have it all nailed down over there.”

  43. avatar
    Heavy September 29, 2009 at 4:33 pm #

    Doc, why have you not edited this comment due to it’s explicit religious reference?

  44. avatar
    AdrianInFlorida September 30, 2009 at 10:42 am #

    Wow, I feel like I was just at a 9/12 rally, need a shower after reading some of the crap spewed over there by those nut jobs.