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Wicked Witch of the West with flying monkey

Wicked Witch of the West with flying monkey

Someone has tampered with the blog

Orly Taitz on her blog says that legitimate comments are being marked as Spam and that it is the result of tampering. Gee, maybe someone has been tampering with my email too 😈 Or perhaps Taitz doesn’t realize that comments like “Great article, I’ll be coming back often” (in Russian or English) and a URL for herbal viagra is really a spam message. My experience with the WordPress spam catching plug-ins has been that they are extremely accurate, falsely flagging a legitimate message less than one in a hundred times.

It looks like Orly is spam-marking any comment with a URL in it automatically, and according to her, she never sees it. I look at EVERY spam because reader comments are important, and I wouldn’t want to miss one. I must have a lot more regard for my readers than Orly does.

On another front, Orly is trying to counter the argument that she didn’t get around to filing her complaint in California until AFTER Obama was sworn in (apparently forgetting that there is a time zone difference). However, not to worry, Obama was not really sworn in two times, and she’d going to pin her argument on the SECOND one, and so the worthless investigator Taitz once again sends out her flying monkey squadron to find out “the exact time of the second swearing ceremony of Obama. …the same day or … next”. Of course Orly couldn’t have known that there would be a second swearing ceremony when she waited past the last minute to file her lawsuit.

One of Orly’s flying monkeys has picked up (saw it on a blog but doesn’t remember where) on the “date filed” v. “date accepted” non-issue. We’ve discussed it here before.

Another target for the flying monkeys: “I currently don’t have time to research and therefor [sic] need help from my supporters. I remember there are specific statues in Federal Communications Act and Federal Elections Committee [sic], where members of the media that are defrauding the public in relation to the elections, can be held liable. [WorldNetDaily WATCH OUT!] Don’cha wish that was true! I do know that it’s a crime to report false information about the time and place of an election.

66 Responses to Orly is hacked again (not), calls in flying monkeys

  1. avatar
    JoZeppy October 26, 2009 at 3:52 pm #

    How much of an idiot does Orly have to be to need to go to her legion of fans to find out when Obama took the oath? Not like it can’t be found in under 1 minute with a google search.

    And she has no time to do basic legal research? What is she filling her days with? Can’t be spent coming up with her legal arguments….on the other hand, I probably don’t want to know what she spends her days doing.

    Oh well….at least have another explanation to for the “quality” her pleadings (well, besides general incompetence and from getting a JD from a correspondence school)…her pleadings aren’t burdened with an actual knowledge of the law.

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    dunstvangeet October 26, 2009 at 3:57 pm #

    And Orly doesn’t even understand the constitution. Obama was President at 12:00 EST on January 20th (I believe). He wasn’t sworn in until about 12:15. However, according to the Constitution, he became President at 12:00 EST.

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    Rob in Denver October 26, 2009 at 4:01 pm #

    What is she filling her days with?

    Getting it on with the renowned Charles E. Lincoln III and eating $300 lunches paid for by supporter donations. Obviously.

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    AdrianInFlorida October 26, 2009 at 4:15 pm #

    This coming from the woman who spammed 20,000 media outlet email addresses with her disingenous “Judge Carter Says Case Will go To Trial January 26th” ‘Press Release’?

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    Elmo October 26, 2009 at 4:25 pm #

    I can’t wait for the “Second Amended Complaint” she keeps referring to, otherwise known as the “throw even more #%#@ at the wall, see if any of it sticks” pleading. She seems to have forgotten that Judge Carter specifically reminded her that she needs permission from the Court to amend her complaint again.

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    Black Lion October 26, 2009 at 4:29 pm #

    More from Orly’s House of Horrors…aka her website…

    Help in legal research needed
    I currently don’t have time to research and therefor need help from my supporters. I remember there are specific statutes in Federal Communications Act and Federal Elections Committee, where members of the media that are defrauding the public in relation to the elections, can be held liable. I need quotes of the specific statutes. I will be reporting the names of the editors and reporters,who refuse to report on eligibility cases and January 26 trial. It might be necessary to join these members of the media as additional defendants in RICO (Racketeering Influenced Corrupt Organizations) action

    I will be exposing to you all of the reporters and media executives, who don’t want to know the truth about Obama’s illegitimacy for presidency and don’t want to report the truth to their readers, therefor actively defrauding their readers.

    Re: Obama illegitimacy for presidency trial scheduled
    Monday, October 26, 2009 7:04 AM
    “Sonja Sherritze”

    Add sender to Contacts
    Please remove me from your mailing list.

    Sonja Sherritze
    Editor, P&T
    MediMedia USA, Inc.
    780 Township Line Road
    Yardley, PA 19067

    I am starting to get responses to 20,000 mailers to the media. Many want to know the truth. Some are completely brainwashed by the Obama regime propaganda. We have to get discovery, to show the truth to reporters like one below

    From: “Simonsis, Yolanda”
    To: “”

    Get a life and stop wasting our tax dollars on ridiculous lawsuits. Maybe the country should sue you.\

    Dear Yolanda Simonsis from
    I am fighting, so pinheads like you will have a freedom of speech and a freedom of information and a real transparency in government, and will not be sent to a FEMA camp at Fairbanks Alaska for re-education based on orders of Maoist Anita Dunn and her boss Kenyan Communist Dictator Obama
    Orly Taitz DDS Esq

    I wonder how many of the so called 20,000 just deleted her “newsletter”? I know I would have had my junk mail filter on….This is like when you get the e-mail from someone claiming to be a long lost relative that wants to use your bank account to deposit 20,000,000 or so and you can get 10%….Actually that may be more believable…

  7. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy October 26, 2009 at 4:34 pm #

    I wonder if Orly is confusing “date filed” and “date accepted” again. :rofl:

  8. avatar
    jvn October 26, 2009 at 4:49 pm #

    Quite right. Here is the text of the 20th Amendment (in part):

    “Section 1. The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January, and the terms of Senators and Representatives at noon on the 3d day of January, of the years in which such terms would have ended if this article had not been ratified; and the terms of their successors shall then begin.”

    So, The President became President at noon, the swearing in notwithstanding.

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    thisoldhippie October 26, 2009 at 4:50 pm #


    Is there a connection?
    Posted on | October 26, 2009 | No Comments

    Need help with research. This clerk ctarted working for judge Carter on Oct 1. Before he worked for Perkins Coie, a firm handling Obama’s defense in eligibility cases. Why do his resumes show 2 different law schools: Columbia and a school in Bratislava, Slovakia. Is there a connection to the fact that nobody remembers Obama at Columbia and he refuses to release his school records? Is there a program where the students study at some backward Communist country and get a degree from Columbia by reciprocity? Are there any decent people in Columbia left, who can shed some light on what is going on? If Obama wasn’t really in Columbia those 2 years, where was he? I have some ideas, but I need proof. Is there a way to see this clerk’ s actual diploma from Law school: What does it sa:y Columbia university or Bratislava law school? Can we find his transcripts? Does anyone remember this Siddharth Velamoor at Columbia?


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    Laurie October 26, 2009 at 4:52 pm #

    So lemme get this straight. This woman wants to sue media outlets for not reporting what SHE wants them to report — and then in the same breath claims to be defending freedom of speech. Uh huh.

    The irony is that in general Taitz herself has a very tyrannical outlook. She wants to indict judges for treason when they choose to follow precedent rather than her idiosyncratic point of view. She, in fact, advocates punishing anyone who does not march to her beat. When she accuses the President of being another Stalin, I think she is projecting her own character flaws onto him.

  11. avatar
    misha October 26, 2009 at 4:56 pm #

    “accuses the President of being another Stalin”

    She had a good teacher.

  12. avatar
    Laurie October 26, 2009 at 4:59 pm #

    It is amazing how Taitz spins conspiracies from the flimsiest of connections. Is she apparently now suggesting that Obama actually studied at a Communist university during the two years he was said to be at Columbia? And her basis for this is that a law clerk who recently began work for the judge has a degree from Columbia but also happened to be listed on findlaw as having attended a university in Slovakia? I mean, how does she get from point A to point B???

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    misha October 26, 2009 at 5:00 pm #

    Exactly. The swearing-in is merely ceremonial.

    It’s the same thing at a wedding. The bride and groom each sign the contract, before the ceremony. At that point they are legally married. The rest is just for show.

  14. avatar
    misha October 26, 2009 at 5:01 pm #


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    misha October 26, 2009 at 5:09 pm #


    My name is David Okowu, and I am the Project Manager for the Nigerian Public Works Department. We have had a cost overrun to the tune of $1M Euros. I need your help with its dirbursement.

    Simply send me your bank account number and routing number, and I will make sure you profit handsomely. I can assure you this perfectly legitimate, and is blessed by our lord Jesus.

  16. avatar
    Elmo October 26, 2009 at 5:10 pm #

    Slovakia hasn’t been communist for these 20 years.

  17. avatar
    kimba October 26, 2009 at 5:10 pm #

    Maybe there’s a clue to how she’s spending her time in Lucas Smith filing p. 9?

  18. avatar
    MsDaisy October 26, 2009 at 5:26 pm #

    Anything is possible in the Birtherverse.

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    thisoldhippie October 26, 2009 at 5:31 pm #

    But it sounds communist, therefore an alert, and that’s all that matters to these idjits. Anytime they can put Obama’s name and communist/communism in the same hemisphere they are happy.

  20. avatar
    MsDaisy October 26, 2009 at 5:37 pm #

    You know, I enjoy a good birthtard laugh as much as the next person, but I think Orly has truly become certifiable, she is now accusing all the media people who didn’t publish her spam story of fraud and wants to include them as defendants in her RICO action. And she’s going to expose them all! (All in upper case mind you)

    She has stuff on her website about 20,00 troops being moved to NORTHCOM and being placed at Ft. Stewart and Peterson AFB and wants her flying monkey’s (I like that term by the way!) to check if they are all cross trained in urban warfare and riot control! And the gas chamber at the FEMA camp in Indiana can gas 3000 people a day!

    I mean, where do they get this stuff! And the scary thing is all those flying monkeys believe this crap without question! She is going to cause someone to do something really stupid and it’s not going to be good.

    Aren’t there any legal grounds to keep her under some kind of control? Where are all the guys with the flying monkey straight jackets???

  21. avatar
    Rita October 26, 2009 at 5:46 pm #

    Laurie: “… how does she get from point A to point B???”

    With a broomstick. You know, she turned me into a newt. I did get better though.

  22. avatar
    Mike October 26, 2009 at 6:09 pm #

    California Laws On Committment To A Mental Health Facility.

    Is anyone from this blog in California? 😈

  23. avatar
    Mary Brown October 26, 2009 at 6:15 pm #

    My grandmother was Slovak. I would remind the demented dentist that Slovakia was Communist only because of its geography and as part of then Czechoslovakia was part of the velvet revolution. She seems to have a very spotty knowledge of that history.

  24. avatar
    JoZeppy October 26, 2009 at 6:30 pm #

    Does anyone else see the irony of Orly, the Moldovan with a Mail Order JD, commenting about “study at some backward Communist country”

  25. avatar
    wendy October 26, 2009 at 6:50 pm #

    Anyone can file a complaint with the State Bar association, you don’t have to be a client.

    They must have a dedicated clerk, just to keep up with the mountains of violations coming out of this woman.
    I just wish they would disbar her, and put us out of our misery for watching this soap opera.

  26. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy October 26, 2009 at 6:56 pm #

    That would no doubt take care of Orly’s legal bills.

  27. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy October 26, 2009 at 6:58 pm #

    Well she decided Obama attended Occidental as a foreign student because there was a high school student in California by the name of “Soetoro” when Obama was a little kid in Hawaii. (And no, that is not supposed to make sense.)

  28. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy October 26, 2009 at 7:52 pm #

    I shouldn’t want to insult the flying monkeys from the Wizard of Oz by comparing them to Orly Taitz’s followers. The flying monkeys were not willing accomplices, but were forced to evil deeds by the Wicked Witch of the West.

    Hmmm, wonder if I could get a good deal on a small farm house in Kansas.

  29. avatar
    Tibor October 26, 2009 at 8:24 pm #

    He couldn’t have been in Slovakia – that’s when he was travelling through Pakistan!

  30. avatar
    June bug October 26, 2009 at 8:59 pm #

    If you do, Doc, you won’t have to pay for it. Just sign it over to ChOrly…they’ll sue the mortgage holder for you…and voila…it’s yours for nothing!

  31. avatar
    milspec October 26, 2009 at 9:43 pm #

    “I just wish they would disbar her, and put us out of our misery for watching this soap opera.”

    NO what would I do for fun.

  32. avatar
    G October 26, 2009 at 10:54 pm #

    You beat me to the punch on that one.

  33. avatar
    wendy October 27, 2009 at 12:14 am #

    it just occurs to me… all the dispute relating to false birth certificates, must be projection. It is completely mystifying HOW she managed to pass ANY bar exam…
    Maybe we should launch our own flying monkeys. Does she have A REAL LICENSE TO PRACTICE LAW?
    Media outlets refuse to run stories that they know to be false.. and she THREATENS to SUE THEM?
    Or..does she not understand how likely it is, that Carter is going to rule against the case? (30+ other cases, thrown out.. one would think this might serve as even a CLUE).
    Sorry, gang. I am probably being repetitious on a few points. It is all so incomprehensible, that it drags on.

  34. avatar
    wendy October 27, 2009 at 12:18 am #

    and the ultimate irony?

    Discovery would wipe her rear from here to Indonesia.

  35. avatar
    wendy October 27, 2009 at 12:20 am #

    speaking of said legal bills…
    not a peep out of Georgia, and the unpaid sanctions.
    curiouser and curiouser.

  36. avatar
    Robi October 27, 2009 at 12:48 am #

    I’m mentally juxtaposing O Rly’s voice with that of the Wicked Witch when she says, ‘I’m mellllllllltttting!’ They sound quite similar. Coincidence? I think not! 😉

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    wendy October 27, 2009 at 1:59 am #

    I will be reporting the names of the editors and reporters,who refuse to report on eligibility cases and January 26 trial. It might be necessary to join these members of the media as additional defendants in RICO (Racketeering Influenced Corrupt Organizations) action

    you know.. that is a direct threat to a 3rd party, to file illegally against them…if they REFUSE TO PRINT WHAT THEY CHOOSE.
    NO NEWS OUTLET has any obligation whatsoever to repeat her hoax or report on her lawsuits.


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    Con Rep October 27, 2009 at 9:02 am #

    The hilarious bit is that she’s posting email auto-responses that are simply acknowlegements of receipt with enraged screams that her peeps should call the FCC and complain.

    Some of those responses are from media sections, such as “Letters to the Editor,” that don’t print press releases.

    Her delusions are reaching critical mass.

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    MsDaisy October 27, 2009 at 9:28 am #

    You could watch her call the ABA a bunch treasonous Obots, or God knows what, and refuse to acknowledge her disbarment as she continues to try and file her nonsense anyway. That would be fun too!

    I’ll bet a 6 pack of Red Stripe on that one, any takers?

  40. avatar
    Lupin October 27, 2009 at 9:59 am #

    First, this is not the old Orly. This is the new — dare I say it? — tighter, wetter Orly.

    So like with movie sequels, you’ve got to expect brand new and better stunts.

    I know from experience, having dealt with some real lunatic clients, that it’s hard to think “insane” but I surmise we haven’t yet see the best of Orly.

    Expect the unexpected.

    I might add that, since your country is clearly unable to deal with its lunatic fringe (that’s why we have CRS in France), you should at least endeavor to make it look cool.

    I would propose for instance that all lawyers be required to appear in togas, wearing a beanie cap with battery-powered propeller. Judges would be dressed as King Tut from the old Batman TV show. And all pleadings would be instantly computer-translated into Klingon, delivered with a Stephen Hawking-like voice modulator.

    In the case of Orly, dressed as the Great Whore of Babylon, with pythons, would be fine.

  41. avatar
    JoZeppy October 27, 2009 at 10:07 am #

    Even more amusing is that she doesn’t even have a clue what the FCC regulates. She’s screaming for her minions to report USA Today to the FCC, but anyone who even bothered to look would realize the FCC doesn’t regulate print media. No federal agency does. Goes back to that “jurisdiction” thing Orly seems to fail to understand.

  42. avatar
    Black Lion October 27, 2009 at 10:12 am #

    From ConWebWatch regarding the relationship between Orly and WND, it is an interesting take. Below is a exerpt from the article…

    “Why would WND do this? Because it has a lot invested — the reputations of the website and its employees, from Joseph Farah on down, not to mention a money-generating side business — in the birther conspiracy, and in Taitz. If Taitz is discredited, the birther conspiracy is too … and so are Farah and WND.

    Therefore, WND must hide the truth about Taitz from its readers. They can’t know the increasingly shaky foundations upon which its signature conspiracy rests.”

  43. avatar
    MsDaisy October 27, 2009 at 10:22 am #

    Well, she’s certainly the “Great Whore of the Birferverse.” Maybe she wears vibrating panties and that’s why she has such a shrilling voice and here eyes are always bugging.

  44. avatar
    JoZeppy October 27, 2009 at 11:23 am #

    WND has a reputation to worry about?

  45. avatar
    Con Rep October 27, 2009 at 12:31 pm #

    WND isn’t in bed with Orly Taitz exclusively, they’re also enabling her arch-enemy  Kreep’s fundraising (in the event of Taitz’ inevitable crash ‘n burn, perhaps).

    They’re an equal opportunity birther-milking site, just trying to keep that $$ for faxes and billboards rolling in. And they’ll dump Taitz in a New York minute, if it suits their purpose.

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    misha October 27, 2009 at 1:30 pm #

    “that’s why we have CRS in France”

    Your courts just had the courage to call Scientology a “fraud.” I wish someone here would put a stop to those vultures. We put up with nonsense here, and it morphs into Oklahoma City, or Waco.

    Orly and her ilk are crying fire in a crowded theatre, as far as I’m concerned.

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    misha October 27, 2009 at 1:39 pm #

    “$$ for faxes and billboards rolling in”

    And don’t forget about their seeds, which can grow a vegatable garden in only three square feet.

    And for and additional $29.95…

  48. avatar
    misha October 27, 2009 at 1:42 pm #

    “I’ll bet a 6 pack of Red Stripe on that one, any takers?”

    I’m in.

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    misha October 27, 2009 at 1:43 pm #

    “were forced to evil deeds by the Wicked Witch of the West”

    And Orly lives in the West. Coincidence?

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    thisoldhippie October 27, 2009 at 9:05 pm #

    Friend of mine has tried for the second time to post this on Orly’s site under her call for 2nd Oath info. Let’s see if it passes mustard.

    “Let’s see if this gets posted. Really don’t think it will.

    The Constitution, that document that each and every one of you claims to support, does NOT require the President to be sworn in on the Bible. Teddy Roosevelt did not use a Bible. John Quincy Adams used a lawbook. LBJ used a Catholic Missal. There were several who took the oath in private. The President becomes the Presiden at 12 p.m. on Jan 20th – with or without the oath. He/She just cannot take action as President until the oath is taken.”

  51. avatar
    jvn October 27, 2009 at 10:40 pm #

    The Constitution doesn’t really even require a swearing in ceremony at all. Check the 20th Amendment…

  52. avatar
    Lupin October 28, 2009 at 2:38 am #

    Interestingly, the Court took great pains to separate the underlying faith from the economic activities performed in its name.

    Conceivably, the Court could have used the same rationale to condemn a Christian faith fleecing its congregation.

    It sanctioned the activities, not the faith.

    The legality (or not) of the Church itself is still out in the open, after some confusion over an amendment to a law that was passed last year in our Congress which might make it unlawful to shut down the Church, but which since then, has been re-amended in order to fix that.

    People braying over Polanski’s extradition (I might be opening a can of worms here) should remember that in 1978 Hubbard was condemned to four years imprisonment and a fine of 35,000 francs in France. The US refused to extradite him.

    (Which in my book is fine as I believe a citizen of a country ought to be tried, or at least have his sentence reviewed and serve time in his own country, not a foreign one.)

  53. avatar
    misha October 28, 2009 at 8:47 am #

    One man’s terrorist, is another man’s freedom fighter.

  54. avatar
    kimba October 28, 2009 at 9:13 am #

    It does require him to take an oath, but doesn’t specify a ceremony or bible is required –

    Article II Sec 1 last paragraph –

    ” Before he enter on the excution of his office, he shall take the following oath or affirmation: – “I do solemnly swear ( or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.” the “so help me God part is storied to have been added by George Washington, so anyone who says “the so help me God” part is required, is saying something must be done that’s not called for in the Constitution.

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    thisoldhippie October 28, 2009 at 11:09 am #

    They seem to be all up in arms about the fact that the second oath was private, that a bible wasn’t used, etc and so on. How long is this going to go on?

  56. avatar
    Black Lion October 28, 2009 at 12:07 pm #

    More interesting stuff from Orly’s world…Look at this posting from one of her flying monkeys…

    What you can sue for?
    Posted on | October 28, 2009 | No Comments

    karen Submitted on 2009/10/28 at 10:49am
    Dr. Orly –

    Please make sure you are taking care of yuorself and getting rest. I worry about your health with all this stress you have with the usurper I think you have aged 10 years in the last several months.

    Can you sue him for ruinung your self and looks. I wake up at night worring about you.



    I don’t think I can sue for ruining my looks, but I can sue for defamation of character, harassment, and under RICO- Racketeering influence Corrupt Organizations. Originally RICO was passed to fight the mob, however collusion of the regime, corrupt judiciary and puppet media becomes reminiscent of mob.

    Ruining her looks? I seriously doubt that President Obama had anything to do with her looking like an extra from the “Munsters”…She has no one to blame but herself…

  57. avatar
    Black Lion October 28, 2009 at 12:10 pm #

    I guess that Bill O’Reilly won’t be invited to speak at the next birther rally….

    O’Reilly is a conceited prig
    Posted on | October 28, 2009 | No Comments

    Dawn Duff Submitted on 2009/10/28 at 1:43am
    I am so disgusted with that idiot O’Reilly
    O’Reilly finally “lowers” himself to mention the Birthers issue. He is a (NOT) know-it-all conceited prig. How’s that for the word of the day?
    After months of ignoring the BO eligibility question, O’Reilly talked about Orly Taitz getting fined for frivolous lawsuits and in that superior snotty way he has, he announced that she represented a member of the military who didn’t want to go to Afghanistan so tried to say BO wasn’t eligible to give orders. It freaks me out that either A. He would SAY that to belittle the issue or B. He really doesn’t know any better. Come on, either way, NO EXCUSE. Then the 2 female legal heads he has on both slobberingly agreed with him – stating with all their attorney-type-gravitas that “we all know he was born in the US – he has a Hawaiian birth cert.” . Complete fools – are they really that stupid? Do they really NOT KNOW the matter has NOTHING TO DO with WHERE he was born, but WHO his father was? Or again, are they part of this game that even FOX NEWS is playing, right along with the other networks?? I’ve listed two links below to go to and some very intelligent comments from an active duty soldier:

    Pieter writes:
    As far as the birth certificate questions, natural born, and whatever else is bugging you about Mr. Obama’s candidacy…it’s the courts or nothing (ambiguity).
    The Presidency and the Constitution
    Additional thoughts from a dumb active duty American Soldier-
    1. We live in a constitutional republic. Period. Republics derive their validity based on the rule of law. Folks who cry “will of the people” and pick and choose which rules are to be obeyed or ignored are treading a path of potential tyranny (at the very least an illegitimate government). Ask yourself if you want President Bush to hold a third term contrary to the 22nd Amendment.
    2. Mr. Obama’s birth certificate issue is a clever ploy to obfuscate the true measure of his eligibility to be President. He is/was a constitutional lawyer; he’s stated that he is a “native” born American with dual citizenship; There should be no doubt he understood ambiguity existed as to his constitutional eligibility to hold the office of the President regarding Article II. The obligation is upon those that SEEK public office to prove eligibility beyond a shadow of a doubt (to self and constituency). To swear an oath to protect, uphold, and defend the Constitution to hold that office with knowing that ambiguity existed is criminal and disingenuous.
    3. Who should care that candidates meet eligibility requirements to hold office? Why is it important that requirements are created, expected, and complied? What are the consequences in this situation for malfeasance / misfeasance regarding the highest guiding document of our Nation? What would our founding fathers say about this current situation?

  58. avatar
    SFJeff October 28, 2009 at 12:44 pm #

    “What would our founding fathers say about this current situation?”

    I love the irony of this question- since our founding fathers would not have been able to envision a black man as president.

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    Black Lion October 28, 2009 at 12:48 pm #

    Even more interesting is the article from WND via the oil for immigration site….I guess they are challenging the fact that President Obama’s parents were married…

    “In actuality, it isn’t clear Obama’s parents were married, since official records have never been produced showing a legal ceremony took place. No wedding certificate or photograph of a ceremony for Dunham and Obama Sr. has ever been found or published.”

    Does WND get tird of lying? Weren’t they the ones that indciated that they had a copy of the Obama-Dunham divorce? Aren’t the birthers pushing the infamous “page 11” that they claim is missing from the divorce decree? They lie so much that they can’t keep their stories straight. They should win the “batshirt” award for reshashing obvious lie for profit….

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    Black Lion October 28, 2009 at 12:55 pm #

    That “Betrayal” site is full of crap. The second article that caught my eye was a reposting of an article from our friend John Charlton from as Patrick calls it “The Post and Fail”…Not satisfied with that fake statement that the President admitted he was not a NBC in the debates in 2004 with Keyes,now they are pushing that Obama knew he was ineligible because there were lectuers on De Vattel…Seriously you cannot make this stuff up…

    “Considering that Indian rights would involve questions of native born citizenship and citizenship rights, it would have been arguably necessary for Obama to have considered Vattel’s doctrine on these key issues, in which texts Vattel describes at length the notion of “natural born citizen”, which includes 2 parent citizens.

    Obama’s father was a British subject at birth, and therefore according to 4 Supreme Court rulings, Obama is not qualified as a “natural born citizen”, and thus cannot lawfully hold the presidency of the United States”

    I mean can they fit more untrue statements in one article? It looks like with the lack of any news on Orly’s CA case the birthers are resorting to rehashing debunked theories or just making stuff up. Which is the same thing. All of the sites reek with desperation…Like they are starting to realize that the longer Obama is President the more they realize that they are tilting at windmills….

  61. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy October 28, 2009 at 1:18 pm #

    Black Lion [Quoting Dawn Stuff]: After months of ignoring the BO eligibility question

    And that’s just plain wrong. O’Reilly has been dissing the birthers for ages. This from the Philadelphia Post-Gazette last July 2009:

    …Both Ann Coulter and Mr. O’Reilly have done what many conservative elected officials don’t have the guts to do: They’ve either mocked or denounced the so-called “birther” movement as an embarrassment to common sense and a threat to the long-term interests of the Republican Party.

    And check out this video from November 2008.

  62. avatar
    aarrgghh October 28, 2009 at 1:52 pm #

    wnd: not just for birfers.

    don’t forget to buy the dvd.

  63. avatar
    Black Lion October 28, 2009 at 3:14 pm #

    We know that Dr. C. But remember these wingnuts only rely on WND, The Post and E-mail and Orly for their news. So they are probably not aware of how much they are a laughingstock in the real world. And remember for a lot of them the only MSM they view is FOX, so when a FOX talking head “disses” them, they get all in a tizzy and are upset. That is what happens when all someone views is propaganda from Orly and the others…

  64. avatar
    ballantine October 28, 2009 at 5:05 pm #

    “Obama’s father was a British subject at birth, and therefore according to 4 Supreme Court rulings, Obama is not qualified as a “natural born citizen”, and thus cannot lawfully hold the presidency of the United States”

    I can just imagine what 4 cases they are referring to. Charlton’s site really is pretty amusing. BTW, Vattel was cited in a number of indian cases where the court was trying to determine if people with one indian parent were indians for purposes of laws and treaties that dealt with indians. These cases had nothing to do with citizenship at birth generally, as the common law and 14th amendment didn’t apply to indians, but that doesn’t mean that Mario and the other desperate birthers won’t cite them.

  65. avatar
    wendy October 29, 2009 at 7:17 am #

    ‘1. We live in a constitutional republic. Period. Republics derive their validity based on the rule of law. Folks who cry “will of the people” and pick and choose which rules are to be obeyed or ignored are treading a path of potential tyranny’

    The comment simply oozes with laughable irony. This, coming from people quoting de Vattel; who have more than 30 cases which have been dumped out of courts; and who are obsessed with the idea that Hawaii has no clue as to the validity of their own records.
    Or, military persons, who somehow have this fantasy that unless the President personally gives them his birth certificate, they can argue that he “really” has no authority.

  66. avatar
    Lamarr01 November 11, 2009 at 1:03 am #

    Hello: I am one of the flying monkeys. Orly’s blog is attacked a a regular basis. This flying monkey finds some of the problems and tells Orly’s other flying monkeys to fix them.

    The following script caused her site to reference a banned site and be removed from the Google search during July:

    [code deleted, Doc C.]

    The following was discovered a month latter:

    [code deleted, Doc C.]

    These scripts have been modified so some script kiddie won’t copy them and hack your site.

    The latest hack to was only in place for a few hours and simply asked the user to reregister there IP. It didn’t do much else.

    Your website uses WordPress and is subject to the same malicious hacking. Orly’s website has been deleted,had her URL cancelled and all manner of malicious acts.

    Orly is a little eccentric but she trying to do when she thinks is right. Her legal skills are lacking but she is one of the few who is asking questions that should have been answered months ago. History and the passage off time will tell if she was right or wrong.