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The Doc gets lazy

I confess that I got lazy. In the middle of doing some research, I stumbled on this article, What is a “Natural Born Citizen”? and I read it hurriedly.

I was surprised to see all the references to the important sources in the question. It was rather comprehensive.  The opening paragraphs seemed reasonable. So I said “this is cool” and put up an article, “Would P. A. Madison hold up in court?”

I also noticed that the article included the unfounded claim that Barack Obama was adopted in Indonesia and wrote a comment to the editor of the web site hosting the article. I also wondered why, in the middle of all those sources, the author mentioned an insignificant blogger, P. A. Madison. But I was in a hurry.

What I failed to do was to think about what I was reading. This was not a “non-partisan” piece as advertised, but rather a polemic disguised as a balanced report. (A report is not fair and balanced when it puts crank theories on equal footing with established fact.)

The final words of the article should have clued me in: “the sovereignty of our great nation is at risk”, but I let it slide.

I put up lots of information on this blog. Some of it is authoritative, and some of it is just interesting. Sometimes I get lazy and don’t label things correctly.

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18 Responses to The Doc gets lazy

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    Paul October 1, 2009 at 1:09 pm #

    Wow, this from the mouth of a white, senile, bigoted, washed up singer (Andy Williams). Due to their lack of leadership, ideas and vision of where our country needs to go the Republican Party is show casing the only thing they have to offer, the scraping of the bottom of their intellectual barrel.

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    Joe Loleczek October 1, 2009 at 3:43 pm #

    Hawaii AG Mark Bennett approved Dr. Fukino’s “Natural-Born” citizen statement; All records must be made public according to law.

    http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

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    Bob October 1, 2009 at 3:52 pm #

    Funny how DoH already has denied that request.

    All Donofrio will be entitled to is the index data. Do you really need to file a lawsuit to have Hawaii say a male named Barack Obama was born on August 4, 1961?

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    nbc October 1, 2009 at 3:55 pm #

    Nope, that’s not what the Law actually says. First of all the law says that any documents should be made public unless the law prohibits this. Thus Birth Records are protected from disclosure unless the party has a direct and tangible interest.
    Furthermore, internal communications that are privileged are also excluded.
    Finally, there is no law that states that records protected by law should suddenly become public record.

    Have you looked at the facts, or are you just spouting the nonsense found on Leo’s blog?

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    richCares October 1, 2009 at 4:03 pm #

    he’s just spouting the nonsense found on Leo’s blog, Birthers are easy prey, their hate for Obama colors their reasoning!

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    Black Lion October 1, 2009 at 4:31 pm #

    It is definately nonsense from Leo’s blog…See below…Already it has been crossposted over at the RSOL as the holy grail. Leo ignores the following facts in regards to his theory….(from a poster over at tROSL)

    “If you are not able to establish a direct and tangible interest in the record, you are ineligible and will not be issued a certified copy of the record.”
    http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/elig_vrcc.html

    On the genealogy request page:
    “For vital records of events that occurred seventy-five years or less prior to the current year, the applicant must establish a direct and tangible interest in the records. ”
    http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/genealogy.html

    From the Hawaiian statute on disclosure of records:
    “The department shall not permit inspection of public health statistics records, or issue a certified copy of any such record or part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record. ”
    http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0018.htm

    I can’t see how Leo or SueB or TerriK will be able to get around that. Leo claims he will be going to the courts to force the release. I wonder if he is just making noise or does he actually intend to file a suit…So far he has made a lot of claims but has never filed one to my knowledge…

    http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/10/01/terrik-investigation-part-3-hawaii-ag-mark-bennett-approved-fukinos-natural-born-citizen-statement-all-records-should-be-made-public-according-to-law/#comments

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    Dave Muckey October 1, 2009 at 4:33 pm #

    Back in the Sixties, Williams held a golf tournament at the March AFB Golf Club (Riverside). A few AF Brat friends on mine were volunteered to help out around the course. Their impression of him then was that he was an asshole. Some things just don’t mellow with age.

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    Dr. Conspiracy October 1, 2009 at 4:42 pm #

    I have a friend who is almost a birther, but who knows a lot about vital statistics. Neither of can figure out Donofrio’s logic, nor why he thinks the record was amended.

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    Dr. Conspiracy October 1, 2009 at 4:46 pm #

    Well, it might prove that the COLB isn’t a forgery and that Dr. Polarik is a quack.

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    Bob October 1, 2009 at 5:00 pm #

    The “amended” canard is from Fukino’s last statement, where she said she had reviewed Obama’s “vital records.” She originally stated she reviewed his birth certificate, so how did a single document become records (plural)?

    Round and round reasoning….

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    Bob October 1, 2009 at 5:07 pm #

    Still, won’t quiet the calls for the long form birth certificate, the name of the doctor, kindergarten records, etc.

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    Dr. Conspiracy October 1, 2009 at 5:38 pm #

    Ah, that’s why I missed it. It isn’t there.

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    Bdaman October 1, 2009 at 5:48 pm #

    How bout it Dr.C, give us your analysis on Donofrio’s latest.

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    Bob October 1, 2009 at 8:10 pm #

    Snark or Sincere? (comment from tRSoL):

    I am Christian. Obama is either Christian or Muslim. Therefore we both believe that Adam is our common ancestor. The law seems pretty clear to me.

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    Dave Muckey October 1, 2009 at 8:23 pm #

    I’ll believe that when I see Adam’s long form BC witnessed by the attendants to his birth. Witnesses, I tells ya!

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    Dr. Conspiracy October 1, 2009 at 8:48 pm #

    I understand that Hawaii only allows ancestors back to grandparents. Maybe Uncle Sayid could get a copy. But all he would get would be a COLB.

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    misha October 2, 2009 at 10:50 am #

    What’s worse, is that no one was Jewish until Abraham. That means Adam was a PAGAN!!! Run for the exits. Aieeee!!!