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I thought I might run out of material for batshirt award nominees. Silly me. Here are 7 more nominations for the most batshirt crazy Obama conspiracy story in the news:

Which of the following is the most batshirt crazy?

  • Taitz blog: Concerned citizen will Walk to the White House gates in person, and make a citizens arrest of president barack obama, put him in handcuffs, read him his rights, and take him to jail. (45%, 54 Votes)
  • Orly Taitz: Motion to reconsider in Barnett introduces Larry Sinclair's Obama homosexual murder claims. (19%, 23 Votes)
  • Rick Hyatt: Obama is the bastard son of East German Stasi Leader Markus Wolf (18%, 22 Votes)
  • Lynn Stuter: Shooting at Fort Hood tied to courts failure to uphold the law (re: Obama eligibility) (11%, 13 Votes)
  • Taitz blog: Obama newspaper birth announcements were forgeries and have now disappeared. (3%, 4 Votes)
  • Citizens Against Pro-Obama Media Bias blog: implies Obama’s involvement in an armed robbery. (2%, 3 Votes)
  • Mario Apuzzo: Article III Section 2 says any federal court can hear quo warranto cases against Obama (2%, 2 Votes)

Total Voters: 121

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50 Responses to Batshirt reader poll 4

  1. avatar
    Black Lion November 10, 2009 at 4:32 pm #

    Doc, you should provide us with links to the different choices. Some of us may not be aware of some of the nominees and their outlandish claims/statements. For instance I did not hear about the Obama being involved in an armed robbery one before you listed it.

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    thisoldhippie November 10, 2009 at 5:08 pm #

    http://www.rickhyatt.freeservers.com/

    Absofreakinglutely nuts!

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    Passerby November 10, 2009 at 5:34 pm #

    Ah, someone suggested it ahead of me. Yeah, I haven’t been keeping up, it seems. I’m not really familiar with some of these. Links to the claims would be wonderful. Or if not that, then–I assume these are coming from things that have been discussed here, maybe from comment threads?–maybe a link to the comment or post where it was brought up. I know it would probably be a lot of work, but it would be really great.

    (Hi, everyone. I lurk here frequently, but I think this is probably only the second time I’ve commented. Also, I’m oddly fascinated by weird theories, so I love the batshirt awards.)

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    SFJeff November 10, 2009 at 5:48 pm #

    Someone owes me a pair of eyeballs after going to Rick Hyatts site of Bizarro World.

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    misha November 10, 2009 at 6:25 pm #

    It’s true: Obama does have a twin brother – it’s ME. I was on a steamship from Kenya to report this, when we were shipwrecked. Everyone perished, including me.

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    train111 November 10, 2009 at 8:44 pm #

    Holy Cow!!

    I’ve lurked here for months–this is my first post.
    That site takes the cake. I’ve never seen something more deranged ever!!!

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    euphgeek November 10, 2009 at 8:59 pm #

    Wow, that’s worse than The Drudge Report!

  8. avatar
    milspec November 10, 2009 at 10:57 pm #

    Well that took 5 seconds from my life.

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    Lupin November 11, 2009 at 2:51 am #

    I found the Rick Hyatt site because he posts in the comments on TALKING POINTS MEMO, using Heath Ledger’s Joker as avatar, which in and of itself is interesting.

    I still wake up screaming. 🙂

    I second the suggestion to post links so that we can review the entries in all their, er, glory.

    Orly makes it really difficult for the other competitors to have a sporting chance. Should she be disqualified to give other folks a shot?

  10. avatar
    Lupin November 11, 2009 at 4:34 am #

    A little OT, but not too much, I just read this:

    “Alexios Marakis, a Greek Orthodox priest visiting the U.S., got lost in Tampa and tried to stop and ask directions from Marine reservist Jasen D. Bruce. But instead of offering help, Bruce struck the priest on the head with a tire iron. The reservist believed Marakis, who spoke limited English, was an Arab terrorist. Bruce chased the priest for three blocks, and even called 911 to say that an Arabic man tried to rob him.”

    Source:
    http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/10/reservist-attacks-priest/

    This, I’m tempted to say of course, happened in Florida.

    The comments are interesting too. One bright bulb wrote that only people who speak English should be allowed in the US. Because the Priest only spoke limited English, it was his fault.

    Florida’s economy depends on tourism so I’m not sure that is the message you want to send.

    Honestly, you’re one f*cked up country.

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    misha November 11, 2009 at 7:57 am #

    “On patrol near the Mississippi river one afternoon in November 1955, Lt RE Brown of the Arkansas State Police spotted a suspicious, ‘foreign-looking’ man driving down the highway in a battered old Ford and pulled him over.

    Unshaven and shabbily dressed, the man didn’t have proper ID and his car was full of maps, foreign books, a bottle of ‘foreign whisky’, and – most suspicious – fancy foreign cameras. Thinking he had caught a spy with ‘Communist affiliations’, Lt Brown arrested Robert Frank and threw him into jail for an interrogation that would last until midnight.”

    Read on: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/3673127/Robert-Frank-melancholy-and-menace.html

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    misha November 11, 2009 at 8:20 am #

    “But only one month into the journey, he was arrested and jailed by Arkansas police. Frank’s crime, it seems, was foreignness. They queried the foreign names he had given his children, Pablo and Andrea; they were suspicious of his foreign-sounding contact, Alexey Brodovitch. They threatened violence and asked if he was a Communist, before fingerprinting him and insisting that he sign his name under the heading “Criminal”.

    Read on: http://www.foto8.com/home/content/view/935/79/

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    thisoldhippie November 11, 2009 at 9:25 am #

    This is what scares me. With the Ft. Hood shootings all I hear is “Muslim terrorist.” This guy was definitely a follower of a radical Islamic belief, but that is no different than Fred Phelps, who sends his flock out to protest our soldiers’ funerals and instigate violence, Timothy McVeigh or the man who killed the people in the UU church in Knoxville. These are domestic terrorists and their religious affiliations are irrelevant. Further, since the Native Americans didn’t speak English and then the first settled city in the US is St. Augustine, (Spanish), I think we can safely assume that English isn’t the first or only language of this country.

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    wendy November 11, 2009 at 10:14 am #

    way too much, does not add up. A “Muslim terrorist infiltrator” would not be struggling to get OUT of the army. It makes more sense than one would stay IN. He was trying a few years back to suggest that more Muslims should be considered for conscientious objector status, to avoid having to choose between American loyalty or war with Muslims in other countries (who may or may not be violent to the US). I find it confusing that with his status/rank, it seems far more unlikely for the govt to overlook possible terrorism links. Were they ALLOWING his contacts to continue, in hopes of “reeling in” bigger fish?
    I have many angles running around in my head, but the overall backlash seems to not fit those angles. I am sure he expected to be killed himself, but I am not sure the motive was what “seems” clear on the surface.

  15. avatar
    Mario Apuzzo November 11, 2009 at 10:30 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy,

    I see some have asked that you put up the links to your award requests. I think that it is a great idea. That way the voters will be better informed before they vote. What do you think, doc?

  16. avatar
    ballantine November 11, 2009 at 10:52 am #

    Mario,

    I actually think your take down of Donofrio’s DC Quo Warranto argument was pretty good. Not sure I quite get your Quo Warranto arguments though.

  17. avatar
    Lupin November 11, 2009 at 11:14 am #

    Correct me if I’m wrong but during WWII, didn’t the US army sent its Japanese soldiers to the European front, not the Pacific front? That seems like common sense to me.

    My dad was in the service (as a pharmacist) and served during the Algerian War, and those Algerians who served with the French (called Harkis) were very badly treated by both sides.

    After the War they understandably came to live in France and received pensions, etc. but were still often unjustly treated. It really is a no win situation.

  18. avatar
    Lupin November 11, 2009 at 11:26 am #

    I’m a great fan of the popular ASTERIX comic book series (which is also popular in Britain, but oddly not in the US) and there is a lovely bit of dialogue in one of the books (THE BIG FIGHT in the UK version) where a Roman Centurion has been taken prisoner by the Gauls and is begging for mercy, saying:

    “Please don’t hurt me! I’m a soldier just like you, even if I’m an enemy. We enemy soldiers shouldn’t hurt each other, should we?”

    I always thought that was a brilliant piece of satire.

    The Ft Hood shooter is an enemy soldier, (actually a traitor) and should be treated as such. Calling him a “terrorist” is somewhat naive.

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    richCares November 11, 2009 at 12:12 pm #

    I nominate Orly’s massive prostest against O’Reilly scheduled for today, the 5 people that showed up are the massive rally!

  20. avatar
    richCares November 11, 2009 at 12:29 pm #

    I make a mistake, eyewitness reports put it at 3 people.

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    SFJeff November 11, 2009 at 12:39 pm #

    “The Ft Hood shooter is an enemy soldier, (actually a traitor) and should be treated as such. Calling him a “terrorist” is somewhat naive”

    I think we don’t really have enough information yet to accurately call him one or the other. He might well be both, or he might be neither.

    Tragedy in either case.

  22. avatar
    ballantine November 11, 2009 at 12:39 pm #

    Actually, I counted 15. They looked pretty pathetic though, with pretty much everyone laughing at them as they walked buy.

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    SFJeff November 11, 2009 at 12:41 pm #

    The U.S. sent its only all Japanese unit to the European front, but many first generation German and Italian Americans were sent to Europe.

  24. avatar
    richCares November 11, 2009 at 12:42 pm #

    no fair, counting early Christmas shoppers don’t count.

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    ballantine November 11, 2009 at 1:32 pm #

    Actually, I think a few people were Rev. Manning’s entourage or something. They looked pretty bored. When Manning left there were about 12 people left. I walked up and listened to this lady with a thicker accent than Orly trying to explain Vattel. There really are no words. I have some pictures if anyone wants to see.

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    MsDaisy November 11, 2009 at 1:32 pm #

    IMO, I think he was just a guy in the army who happened to be Muslim and went nuts. I really don’t think his religion had anything to do with it, and I know he was a doctor but doctors go nuts too. Having a degree does not guarantee sanity. (Just look at Orly)

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    Det. Cliff Hanger November 11, 2009 at 1:46 pm #

    Let’s see’em.

  28. avatar
    Texlaw November 11, 2009 at 3:03 pm #

    You mean you passed up a chance to question the Birfer Queen?????????????

  29. avatar
    nbc November 11, 2009 at 3:21 pm #

    Some pictures at Gawker

  30. avatar
    ballantine November 11, 2009 at 3:28 pm #

    Don’t know how to post them. If someone does, I can send them in an email.

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    MsDaisy November 11, 2009 at 4:46 pm #

    Great pics nbc,(LOL) poor Orly just can’t get anyone to pay attention to her nonsense. Wonder how she’ll spin this one. “Brown shirts cut off the street and wouldn’t let protesters in” or “Fox is bought and paid for by Obama and all the MSM is in on the conspiracy. They are all committing treason by not making “her” headline news”. Next she will threaten a lawsuit or demand that someone file charges against these corrupt networks. RICO maybe? (I think she likes that one)

    How much longer do you think the Ca. bar will put up with her behavior before they yank her license? You know when they do get around to that, and I have no doubt they will, she is going to have a major meltdown and swear, “it’s the conspiracy!”

  32. avatar
    MsDaisy November 11, 2009 at 5:00 pm #

    Actually the real truth is that his sister is really his twin brother.

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    misha November 11, 2009 at 6:17 pm #

    McVeigh was a Christian terrorist, but no one will call him that – it only applies to Muslims. It’s muslimterrorist, like mommydearest – one word.

    McVeigh was strongly influenced by Christian Identity, and he was primed by being raised Catholic.

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    wendy November 11, 2009 at 9:17 pm #

    I knew I was missing something today re Orly… a new chance to laugh at her.
    3 whole news stories. Someone fighting over a parking space in NY, gets more attention than this.

  35. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy November 11, 2009 at 10:32 pm #

    I would think the latest motion to reconsider with the federal court in California will get their attention.

  36. avatar
    Rickey November 12, 2009 at 12:16 am #

    Speaking of Orly, isn’t her sanctions payment due today? I know she filed a Notice of Appeal, but as far as I can see she hasn’t filed a motion to stay Judge Land’s sanctions order. Or does a stay automatically go into effect with the Notice of Appeal?

  37. avatar
    Mario Apuzzo November 12, 2009 at 12:23 am #

    ballantine,

    Quo warranto provides only a piece of the puzzle. It provides a remedy and nothing more. It also cannot survive alone.

  38. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy November 12, 2009 at 12:28 am #

    I’d love to see the pictures, and may be post some. Email to “admin” at this web domain.

  39. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy November 12, 2009 at 12:32 am #

    Mario Apuzzo: Dr. Conspiracy,
    I see some have asked that you put up the links to your award requests.I think that it is a great idea.That way the voters will be better informed before they vote.What do you think, doc?

    I agree. I’ll start with the next poll.

  40. avatar
    MS November 12, 2009 at 1:14 am #

    I’ve knocked around the world a good deal and over the years have been:

    1. Beaten up for being a “f**king American” (London, East End)

    2. Spit on and cursed at for the same reason (Normandy)

    3. Threatened with a beating for defending the jews (Ryazan, Russia)

    4. Nearly killed for reasons I still don’t quite understand (Juarez, Mexico)

    5. Beaten half to death for being a “n**r lover” (Indiana, circa 1973)

    6.Beaten somewhat less severly for being white in the wrong neighborhood (Chicago IL)

    And the list goes on. On balance, I’d say the worst was London (These skinheads really put the boot in).

    My point is, first, that I clearly have no sense, and second, my personal experience is that xenophobic and racist violence knows no national boundaries.If America is f**ked up, It’s got a whole lot of company. Don’t believe it? Send a non-English speaking Pakistani in a nice suit down the East End on a Friday night to ask for directions.

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    misha November 12, 2009 at 2:09 am #

    I have to add this: even with two degrees, I drove long haul for a year. I made the mistake of a wrong turn, and ended up in Watts, Los Angeles. I have never been more frightened.

    It’s simply that people like Lupin expect more from the States.

    I saw a BBC program on the London skinheads, and I know firsthand about the anti-Semitism in Russia.

  42. avatar
    Lupin November 12, 2009 at 2:48 am #

    Actually (not that it matters) my “f*cked up” comment was less about the xenophobic attack — God knows we have those in France as well, racism being pretty much universal — but the strange, surreal image of a Marine hitting and chasing a Greek Orthodox Priest with a tire iron shouting Arab! Arab!

    Bill Gaines, the founder of MAD MAGAZINE, once summed up his view of humanity by saying “People are no d*mn good!”– a universal view which I endorse.

    However, there seems to be a surreal quality to life in the United States.

  43. avatar
    kupuna November 12, 2009 at 6:48 am #

    This Hawaiian Tutu won’t be clicking on any Rick Hyatt links & I’ll just say auwe to the folks like that & to the Birthers. Now, if I didn’t live in Hawaii, I would have voted for Doc’s winning option, about Orly’s hopes for a citizen arrest of Obama. However, a Mainland Birther on a news forum was trying to tell folks that the Obama birth announcement was no longer available at Hawaii libraries, & I just had to call him on that. U Hawaii & the Hawaii state public libraries all still have the microfilm of our 1961 newspapers. Does anyone know where this latest lie started?

  44. avatar
    Mike November 12, 2009 at 9:38 am #

    “In other news, Glenn Beck is reporting that the Birther protests drew approximately 6 and 1/2 billion people. Beck stated that ‘everyone in the world turned up, just like for the tea parties’ before bursting into tears.”

  45. avatar
    Black Lion November 12, 2009 at 10:28 am #

    Or like how Jon Stewart caught Hannity using the video from the Glenn Beck teabagging protest on 9/12 for the Bachmann rally to make people think that a lot more people showed up for the rally than really attended. Why must these people lie? Is it they don’t believe that they can be honest and win? I think they have deluded themselves to believe that a majority of Americans think like they do. And if they continue to believe in that nonsense then 2012 will be a shock for them…

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    ballantine November 12, 2009 at 11:03 am #

    Well, if you are saying that a court can issue any common law writ if it already has jurisdiction, that is generlly true. The problem is you have to first have a justiciable claim that the court has jurisdiction over. I just don’t see it as none of you consitutional claims have ever been remotely recognized by any court. Also, just because a court may issue a writ generally, doesn’t mean they can issue a writ against the president when the constitution give the courts no power to remove the president. And, if the court has no such power, it is difficult to argue that there is an actual case or controversy. Rather the writ would be used as an investigative tool in a case the court has no power to resolve, almost by definition an advisory opinion outside the scope of the federal courts. Finally, I still don’t see any injury that any of your clients can claim that would give the standing under modern standing doctrine.

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    Mario Apuzzo November 12, 2009 at 11:47 am #

    ballantine,

    I did not get heavy into the standing issue in my article other than to address the “interested person” requirement under the DC District Code and a need to avoid such a limiting barrier. There are many issues that are in dispute and I surely was not going to cover them all.

    My article proposed to use the quo warranto remedy in conjunction with the other underlying constitutional and equitable claims as a way to avoid some of the standing problems and political question doctrine.

    Also, Judge Simandle did not reach the merits of the constitutional claims. He avoided doing so by ruling on standing and political question.

  48. avatar
    Black Lion November 12, 2009 at 12:10 pm #

    That was one of the worst site I have ever seen…What a cesspool of pure crap. I will say that after seeing that he is definately in the running…

  49. avatar
    Rickey November 12, 2009 at 12:47 pm #

    If you haven’t seen it already, the Court of Appeals in the Third District has denied Phil Berg’s appeal. Among other things, the Court ruled that Berg’s claim under the Tenth Amendment “has no apparent relevance.”

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/22475054/BERG-v-OBAMA-Original-Case-PRECEDENTIAL-OPINION-Transport-Room

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    Expelliarmus November 12, 2009 at 2:21 pm #

    SPECULATION ONLY: Some birther went to a library and didn’t know how to go about using the microfilm archives…. and so couldn’t find the articles on their own, and reported back to other birthers that they were no longer available?

    (It would be consistent with birther logic – if person A. can’t find something, then it doesn’t exist and never existed… unless you want it to exist, in which case, if person A. can’t find something, then there must be some massive conspiracy to destroy or hide it)