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New birth certificate bills in Hawaii

As reported in the Honolulu Advertiser article, Hawaii gets persistent requests for Obama birth certificate, February 19, Hawaii state Senator Will Espero has introduced two bills, one on “each side” of the issue in the Hawaii legislature:

Senate Bill 2056 would open up Hawai’i birth records under strict conditions to people who currently have no legitimate right to see them. Senate Bill 2937 would allow state agencies to label people who persistently “abuse” the public information process as “vexatious requestors,” which would allow state officials to deny their requests for documents.

Bill 2056 is not really that far fetched. Several states now have open birth records, for example California. In “open record states” anyone can view a copy of birth records (although not get a “certified copy” on security paper). There are legitimate arguments in favor of open records, and proponents claim that identity theft is no worse in states with open records than in those with closed records. Others in opposition cite privacy concerns. The thorny issue of adoption complicates the issue.

Bill 2937 is also a tool to help the state health department deal with the onslaught of bloggers like Terri K and Butterdezillion and their minions. I am less impressed by value of this legislation, as it seems to me that the State already has the tools needed. If we’re only talking about 50 requests a month, as the article says, this is a drop in the bucket compared to the number of legitimate requests the state routinely processes.

6 Responses to New birth certificate bills in Hawaii

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    Scientist February 22, 2010 at 9:00 am #

    This thread looks lonely so I thought I’d comment. Since I was not born in Hawaii and don’t live there, how they handle their records is not my business. All these non-Hawaiian birthers (as far as I know there aren’t any Hawaiian birthers) should mind their own business.

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    Bandido June 17, 2010 at 11:45 am #

    Lets see now…the “certification of live birth” was computer generated. No computers in the 60’s
    And um…His draft registration application is phony as in garbage. google debbie schussel.
    And um…Now investigators find out that his social security number was
    issued to a guy from Connecticut. That’s identity theft.
    Really what we are looking at here is not only an illegal immigrant, but an undocumented worker! Ain’t that voter FRAUD?
    Just thought I’d perk up the day for scientist.

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    NbC June 17, 2010 at 11:53 am #

    The Certificare of birth indeed is computer generated, in 2007. Dude…

    His draft registration is also quite real. I have googled Debbie and shown how her so called ‘evidence’ fails.

    So why do you let others enslave you with myths?

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    Scientist June 17, 2010 at 12:25 pm #

    Bandido: Lets see now…the “certification of live birth” was computer generated. No computers in the 60’s

    The first commercially available computers came out in the early 1950s. Most government agencies were using computers by the late 1950s.

    Here is a timeline of the development of computers

    http://inventors.about.com/library/blcoindex.htm

    I know this has nothing to do with Obama’s COLB, but i wanted to correct the record.

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    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) June 17, 2010 at 1:10 pm #

    Bandido: Lets see now…the “certification of live birth” was computer generated. No computers in the 60’sAnd um…His draft registration application is phony as in garbage. google debbie schussel.And um…Now investigators find out that his social security number wasissued to a guy from Connecticut. That’s identity theft.Really what we are looking at here is not only an illegal immigrant, but an undocumented worker! Ain’t that voter FRAUD?Just thought I’d perk up the day for scientist.

    Yeah it was issued to a guy named Barack Obama. Social Security is a federal entity they have offices that issue cards. Back then there were a few CT being one. Now you’re just going beyond sanity with that illegal immigrant charge.

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    Dr. Conspiracy June 17, 2010 at 3:24 pm #

    Bandido: Lets see now…the “certification of live birth” was computer generated. No computers in the 60’s … illegal immigrant

    When Hawaii vital statistics went paperless, they keyed all the old births into a computer database and today they issue certified copies of information from that data.

    This is the same as many other states. It is not illegal; it is not undocumented; and it is not fraud.