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WND Joseph Farah and Andrew Breitbart tangle over birtherism

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It was a a “Tea Party” convention last Friday night in Nashville. WorldNetDaily’s Joseph Farah gave a 40-minute talk, 10 minutes of which revolved around Obama’s birth certificate.

Andrew Breitbart, a conservative publisher and former editor for the Drudge Report, clashed with Farah in the hall with some harsh words that are reported by David Weigel of the Washington Independent. The basic disagreement was whether the “birther” questions are a winning or losing issue.

The various exchanges are fascinating, and I won’t take thunder from the Washington Independent (who also have an audio clip) by pasting them in here. I do want to mention one comment Farah made to Weigel afterwards:

Joseph Farah

The citizenship issue had stuck around and taken off, he said, “because of us.” [said Farah]

I think this may be largely true. Even though the stories WorldNetDaily are quickly debunked (like the nonexistent travel ban to Pakistan in 1981), and they are more innuendo than fact, they persist and WND has a large readership.

27 Responses to WND Joseph Farah and Andrew Breitbart tangle over birtherism

  1. avatar
    Black Lion February 7, 2010 at 3:59 pm #

    We also discovered that Sarah Palin needed to write notes on her hand to remember her talking points…Which is ironic considering she was the one blaiming the President for using his teleprompter…You can’t make this stuff up…

    “Tonight, former Alaska governor Sarah Palin spoke to the National Tea Party Convention in Nashville, TN, an event that was ditched by other high-profile Republicans who disliked its for-profit model. After her speech, organizer Judson Phillips asked Palin several questions. One of them was about what needs to be done when there is a “conservative House and a conservative Senate.” Palin jumped right in and said, “We’ve got to rein in the spending, obviously.” However, she then seemed to forget her next talking point and glanced down at her left hand, as if there were notes she had scribbled down. She went on to talk about “energy projects.”

    http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/06/palin-hand/

  2. avatar
    Black Lion February 7, 2010 at 4:15 pm #

    Look at what idiotic birthers have decided to get into bed together…

    http://americangrandjury.org/history-in-the-making-american-grand-jury-joins-forces-with-dr-james-david-manning

    Today, Sunday, February 7th, marks a very important date in history for American Grand Jury. We are pleased to announce the joining of forces with the Honorable Dr. and Pastor James David Manning of Harlem (Atlah), New York. …

    Dr. Manning is an American Patriot with unquestioned spirit, drive and ability. We are marveled by his daily energy and commitment to awaken this Country and expose the evils within our society. One such evil is Barack Obama. At risk of life, career, family and followers Dr. Manning has directed a relentless campaign to expose Obama for the treasonous fraud that he is. When you look at Dr. Manning, you look a real man that lays it all on the line. …

    Forthcoming within the next few days will be details of just how American Grand Jury will be involved. We will be a part of the “Columbia Trial” organized and directed by Dr. Manning. We will take marching orders from his organization. If he asks us to jump, our response will be, “how high?”

  3. avatar
    Black Lion February 7, 2010 at 5:01 pm #

    The best part of the article is the following…

    “It’s self-indulgent, it’s narcissistic, it’s a losing issue,” Breitbart told Schilling. “It’s a losing situation. If you don’t have the frigging evidence — raising the question? You can do that to Republicans all day long. You have to disprove that you’re a racist! Forcing them to disprove something is a nightmare.”

    “Wouldn’t you say,” asked Schilling, “in this case, that Farah is asking Obama to prove something rather than his disprove it?”

    Breitbart rejected the premise. “When has a president ever been asked to prove his citizenship?”

    Exactly…When has a President ever been asked to prove his citizenship….

  4. avatar
    misha February 7, 2010 at 5:31 pm #

    I’m not accusing Joseph Farah, but I read on the Internet that barnyard animals become skittish when Farah is around.

    All he has to do is prove this is nothing more than a scurrilous rumor. Why doesn’t he? And what about those Glenn Beck rumors that won’t die?

    What are they hiding?

  5. avatar
    Joseph Farah February 7, 2010 at 7:34 pm #

    Yes, it would be truly embarrassing if WND had ever reported on a Pakistan travel ban that didn’t exist. However, since no such report by WND has ever been made, it would seem your website is the one with the egg on its face.

  6. avatar
    nbc February 7, 2010 at 8:06 pm #

    How easy to disprove “Farah”

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81943

    There’s another problem. No record of Obama holding an American passport prior to the one he received once becoming a U.S. senator has been found. If he traveled to Pakistan with an American passport, he wouldn’t have been allowed in – since Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and under martial law. It was also on the State Department’s travel ban list for U.S. citizens.

    Pwned

  7. avatar
    aarrgghh February 7, 2010 at 8:24 pm #

    joseph farah, begging for it:

    “since no such report by WND has ever been made, it would seem your website is the one with the egg on its face.”

    egg.
    farah’s face.
    meet.

  8. avatar
    Saint James February 7, 2010 at 8:57 pm #

    Farah said…”since no such report by WND has ever been made”?

    WOW!!! It only took 123 minutes to debunk you Farah! ha ha ha ha

    Your face doesn’t deserve eggs…You ought to get CACA PIES on your face!

  9. avatar
    nbc February 7, 2010 at 9:07 pm #

    It took me exactly 22 seconds to find the article, linked to by Dr Conspiracy.

  10. avatar
    Saint James February 7, 2010 at 9:14 pm #

    It only took you 22 SECONDS to find the article?

    Farah deserves triple servings of CACA PIE on his face then! Hmmm! ha ha ha ha ha ha

  11. avatar
    nbc February 7, 2010 at 9:16 pm #

    One cannot blame Farah for not being too familiar with his own publication, but we can hold him accountable for making foolish claims about it.
    The article to which I linked is full of what I have come to expect from WND: inaccuracies, innuendo and foolish claims.

  12. avatar
    nbc February 7, 2010 at 9:17 pm #

    Breitbart not Brietbart

  13. avatar
    Scientist February 7, 2010 at 9:58 pm #

    Mr Farah: I’m sure while you were at the conference you took the opportunity to ask Sarah Palin for her vault birth certificate, since she is making noises about running for President in 2012. I just know you would never be so unfair as to not demand the exact same documentation from ALL candidates as you have from Mr Obama. You of course demanded her complete college records as well, I’m sure. The fact that she attended 5 institutions over 6 years before graduating is something many voters will be interested in, particularly in view of her failure to complete her turn as Governor.

    I am sure you can also supply us with links to the articles you wrote demanding long-form birth certificates from George Bush as well as the other Presidents during your adult life. I only mention this because you are known for being “fair and balanced”.

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    nbc February 7, 2010 at 10:07 pm #

    Farah’s most outrageous comment was in my opinion

    My objective is not to get Sarah Palin elected or something. My job as a journalist is to seek the truth.”

    If he were not the owner of WND, he would have been long fired for failing to do his job.

  15. avatar
    Gordon February 7, 2010 at 10:25 pm #

    You couldn’t be the real Joseph Farah. No publisher even of a rag like the WND wouldn’t know what was printed in said rag.

  16. avatar
    misha February 7, 2010 at 10:30 pm #

    Especially, since Sarah Palin was born in Kenya!

  17. avatar
    Saint James February 7, 2010 at 10:30 pm #

    Farah is a journalist alright! His skill is limited to journalistic noise, fast food and yellow journalism.

  18. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy February 7, 2010 at 11:59 pm #

    Mr. Farah:

    Unlike that propaganda mill you run, this site takes some pains only to publish things which are true and can be documented. And further, when this site does make a mistake, it is quickly corrected. The fake travel ban to Pakistan story you published, of course, had no documentation whatever. It was a pure fabrication on somebody’s part, and either an intentional lie by your site, or inexcusable negligence. You are a source of a major piece of misinformation that has been repeated thousands of times.

    I do not know if you are mincing words when you say “report”. The travel ban appears in an article by Janet Folger Porter published on your site. This is what you published:

    There’s another problem. No record of Obama holding an American passport prior to the one he received once becoming a U.S. senator has been found. If he traveled to Pakistan with an American passport, he wouldn’t have been allowed in – since Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and under martial law. It was also on the State Department’s travel ban list for U.S. citizens.

    If you say that you didn’t know the story was there, then I’m sure you will immediately publish a feature article linking to the State Department documents showing that there was no ban, and thereby correct the public record.

  19. avatar
    Texlaw February 8, 2010 at 2:04 am #

    This thread is priceless folks. Farah is an even bigger dumb *ss than I thought.

  20. avatar
    Patrick McKinnion February 8, 2010 at 2:43 am #

    25 November 2008

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81943

    “There’s another problem. No record of Obama holding an American passport prior to the one he received once becoming a U.S. senator has been found. If he traveled to Pakistan with an American passport, he wouldn’t have been allowed in – since Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and under martial law. It was also on the State Department’s travel ban list for U.S. citizens. ”

    Also 23 August 2008

    “A separate WND investigation into Obama’s certification of live birth utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren’t originally there.”

    Yet again, on that 25 November 2008 article, you repeated the claims from “Polarik” about the birth certificate being forgery. AND you’ve been making money off of the “Where’s the Birth Certificate ads.

    In short, World Net Daily lies. Repeatedly.

  21. avatar
    mimi February 8, 2010 at 3:04 am #

    Seems Mr. Farah is a liar. Is there something in the bible about liars? What’s the punishment for liars?

  22. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy February 8, 2010 at 7:30 am #

    mimi: What’s the punishment for liars?

    (Rev 21:8 NASB) “But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

    But I hasten to add, that the Bible also says “all men are liars.”

  23. avatar
    Black Lion February 8, 2010 at 8:43 am #

    The lies and propaganda that WND has published since President Obama was running for President is too numerous to mention. To think that he would have the guts to post that his site never wrote something is amazing. It reminds me of how his site for over a year had the article about verifying the COLB while writing articles stating it was a forgery, and finally when confronted with this information, instead of owning up to it put the silliest disclaimer on the article…

  24. avatar
    Bob Weber February 8, 2010 at 3:45 pm #

    misha: I’m not accusing Joseph Farah, but I read on the Internet that barnyard animals become skittish when Farah is around.All he has to do is prove this is nothing more than a scurrilous rumor. Why doesn’t he? And what about those Glenn Beck rumors that won’t die?What are they hiding?

    I hear it’s the sheep especially that get skittish.

  25. avatar
    Rickey February 8, 2010 at 6:08 pm #

    WND repeatedly regurgitated Porter’s claim of a travel ban in subsequent articles. Here is one example, from December 2, 2008:

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=82585

    And here’s another one from January 8, 2009:

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=85587

  26. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy February 8, 2010 at 6:41 pm #

    Thanks Rickey. All purveyors of false news are a threat to democracy.

  27. avatar
    Saint James February 8, 2010 at 8:52 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy, we must never underestimate those purveyors of false news. They act as provocateurs to plant the seed of malcontent amongst the people. Hitler and Stalin were provocateurs early on. They remained such even when they were already in power.