Certificate forger confesses? Naaah.

The Freepers are at it again and Citizen Wells is all over it, this time with a claim that the person who helped forge the COLB has come forward. Here’s the post. [Despite claims that this article had been “scrubbed” from the Internet, I had no problem finding it on the Free Republic site.]

Chanise Foxx, free republic

*** Update below March 7, 2010, 10:06 ET ***

“HUGE NEWS AT FREEREPUBLIC!!!

“My name is Chanise Foxx. I work at a office supply store in Kenwood, IL. After nearly 3 years of silence and death threats to me and my family to stay quiet, I am compelled to come forward and tell the world my secret.

“I helped Obama campaign staffer Divorah Adler create a fake birth certificate for use in the famous Fact Check story to prove the world of Obama’s birth in the 2008 election. Divorah approached me in early 2007 and held onto the birth certificate until she released it in August 2008.

“As I’ve been making fake IDs part-time for local college students for about eight years now, faking a birth certificate was actually quite easy. Our first step was to get our hands on someone else’s birth certificate from Hawaii. We then created the stationary to match…”e had to create an embossed stamp and rubber signature stamp for Hawaiian officials. With the help of a high-resolution scanner at the store, I did most of my work at night when the place was vacant…”

Did you catch the obvioius mistake? Obama’s COLB was released in June of 2008, not August. Another problem, is that is no Kenwood, IL–it’s only a neighborhood. 411.com didn’t turn up any Chanise Foxx either nor does Google have any reference to the name in the past.

It turns out that this is a recycled spoof. [Scroll down the the  picture of Chanise.]

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57 Responses to Certificate forger confesses? Naaah.

  1. Kevin Bellas says:

    Doc C.

    There is no Kenwood, IL. There is a Kenwood neighborhood and an office supply store is in the southern neighborhood of Hyde Park. Whoever created the story used President Obama’s home neighborhood of Kenwood as a city name.

  2. YellowDog says:

    With all the money Obama raised for the 2008 campaign, why would they hire some supply store employee to fake a critical document? Wag the Dog was a more plausible story.

  3. Scientist says:

    This discussion is beside the point. It doesn’t matter where Obama was born. Read the Constitution and then apply the basic rules of English grammar:
    “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President”

    Does it say, “a natural born Citizen OF THE UNITED STATES”? It does not. Therefore one is eligible if one is a natural born Citizen OF ANY DAMN PLACE ON EARTH. There is no other way to read the sentence. Now you can argue what the Framers meant, but what counts is the actual words. If they couldn’t write a proper sentence that isn’t my fault nor is it Obama’s.

    The fact is that wherever Obama was born, he is a natural born Citizen and thus is eligible. Period. End of story.

    Now, Doc, you can FINALLY close the site down as the discussion is well and truly over.

  4. Bob Bircher says:

    Of related interest is this thread:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2457491/posts?page=3090#3090

    The creator of one of the fake Kenyan birth certificates comes clean and is picked at by flying monkeys with hilarious results.

  5. Bob Bircher says:

    In fact this ongoing thread exemplifies some rhetorical tactics commonly seen on FR, which are not always limited to birther threads:

    Attacking the messenger.

    Confirmation bias demonstrated by irrational acceptance or rejection of evidence.

    Accusing an opponent of precisely what oneself is actually doing. This seems to desensitize any rebuttal by the opponent from the POV of true believers.

    Conflating the persons being discussed with the persons conducting the discussion itself.
    This is my favorite enumerated here because it is so insane and conspiratorial and quickly leads to fantasies.

  6. BatGuano says:

    With all the money Obama raised for the 2008 campaign, why would they hire some supply store employee to fake a critical document? .

    i think this is my personal favorite chunk of birther logic. they believe that the COLB is fake ( and a bad fake at that ) but they also believe the hawaiian DoH is part of the conspiracy. so instead of simply having the DoH print out a COLB obama paid an unknown fortune to have a fake made (……. possibly from a girl moonlighting at office depot ).

  7. Paul Pieniezny says:

    Misha, byłeś w Krakowie? Miasto posiadało wiele skarbów sztuki, które były warte kradzież! I kobiet.

    Just to prove you wrong, drug. If Questions wants to know what it means, he should go to the place I send all birfers to.]

  8. misha says:

    No,I was born in NY. My maternal grandmother was born in Bialystok.

  9. Scott Brown says:

    What makes you think the ‘birthers’ are behind this story?

    A little bit short sighted if you ask me, but then no one did.

  10. BatGuano says:

    What makes you think the birthers’ are behind this story?A little bit short sighted if you ask me, but then no one did.

    i didn’t give an opinion on who i thought was behind the ” chanice foxx ” story. actually my knee-jerk reaction was that it was someone playing a cruel joke on an actual chanice foxx.

    above i’m just giving a general observation about the COLB from a printer’s point of view.

  11. Navi says:

    A poster at Politijab says that the person who posted this story at FR is the same person who posted it at Citizen Wells without calling it fiction: “He labeled it as fiction on FR, but then he went over to Citizen Wells seven hours later, and posted it for reelz with the headline “”HUGE NEWS AT FREEREPUBLIC!!!” (with no link, of course). See the last post by “Bobby” in this thread”

    http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2010/03/05/robert-gibbs-lies-about-obama-birth-certificate-white-house-press-secretary-lies-obama-birth-certificate-lou-dobbs-questioned-sean-hannity-questioned-glenn-beck-and-bill-oreilly-wake-up/

  12. Black Lion says:

    The posters over at Citizen Wells are more delusional that one thought…Look at some of their posts…They are some really disturbed individuals…No wonder the birthers can continue to get away with their misinformation…These people want to believe the worst…Even when contradictory evidence is presented, they ignore it to speculate on the most ridiculous conspiracy theories…Very disturbing…

    Some examples….

    Linda from NY // March 5, 2010 at 10:22 pm
    bob strauss // March 5, 2010 at 10:16 pm
    Yes…I remember that hypothesis and how well it ended.
    We were like “ambulance chasers” running after any clue that might give us some answers.
    I’ll bet they were laughing at our frugal attempts to uncover the truth.
    Don’t think they are laughing now, though, Apuzzo is getting close, don’t you think?
    Hopeful in NY…Linda

    Don in California // March 5, 2010 at 10:22 pm
    JJ // March 5, 2010 at 9:20 pm
    Michelle // March 5, 2010 at 6:28 pm
    Jacqlyn Smith @ 6:22 pm
    I can only present one reason dems are still walking the gang plank for the idiot in charge to pass this bill……
    They KNOW the voting machines will be rigged in 2012????
    ///////////////////////////
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/05/critics-see-peril-in-voting-machine-merger/
    Critics see peril in voting-machine merger
    Nebraska firm controls 70% of precincts
    By Pete Yost ASSOCIATED PRESS
    The largest voting-machine company in the country bought its biggest competitor six months ago without advance notice and little fanfare. Now the Justice Department is investigating whether to unwind the merger that put a privately held Nebraska company in control of the voting machines in nearly 70 percent of the nation’s precincts.
    With midterm elections looming, a coalition of election officials from several states and voter advocate groups is pressing the Justice Department to unscramble the combination of two companies. Critics say the merger could cause foul-ups at the polls on Election Day, and some even characterize it as a national security risk.
    //////////////////////

    oldsalt78 // March 5, 2010 at 7:43 pm
    Nancy Peacock……………………………………….
    I strongly, but respectfully disagree with the content of the last comment that you posted. It flies in the face of the survivors of the DEAD from the 9-11, from Pearl Harbor. and worst of all the dead heros from all of our wars who gave their lives protecting the people of the US, and our Constitution.
    When Soetoro said these words he signed his own death warrant. I am sure that this will anger a lot of veterans very heavily, and non veterans alike. In addition it will severley hurt those who have lost a son or daughter in the defense of our country or 9-11. Why is it necessary to hurt these people a second time? You need to talk to some COMBAT VETERANS, and get their side of things. I am sure that you will not hear what Soetoro had to say. I am not angry with you. I am angered by what the alleged POTUS really stands for, which is in fact his ABSOLUTE HATRED OF EVERYTHING THE US STANDS FOR. I PRAY THAT THOSE WHO VOTED FOR HIM FEEL THE STING OF THE MONSTER THAT THEY HELPED PUT INTO OUR WHITEHOUSE. Perhaps they will FEEL their reeducation,instead of having LEARNED THE TRUTH BEFORE they VOTED FOR HIM.

    Don in California // March 5, 2010 at 8:04 pm
    oldsalt78 // March 5, 2010 at 7:53 pm
    ////////////////////
    I regret saying this, but if he served in the military, he might get fragged!!!

    oldsalt78 // March 5, 2010 at 8:10 pm
    Linda from New York…………………………….
    I can’t believe that there are so many people on earth who havn’t yet learned the difference between the word CERTIFICATE, and CERTIFICATION. This is why GIBBS is a BLATANT LIAR and MORON. He hasn’t yet learned the difference. Again I am not angry with you. It is a common mistake. Many people just see the first four syllables of the word CERTIFICATION, and translate it to read CERTIFICATE. Again, please do not take offense. I in no way mean this comment to be offensive…..OK?

    bob strauss // March 5, 2010 at 9:31 pm
    Linda from NY 3/5 @ 6:09pm, about the certificate number on Obama’s forgery. If you look at the number 1961 you will see proof of the forgery. Hawaii never used the 19 in their date code they only used the two digit 61. If you look at all of the other Hawaiian certificate numbers that have been shown, you will not see a 19 before the year.

    bob strauss // March 5, 2010 at 10:10 pm
    Linda from NY, Yes, I guess it’s all we can expect from a fake president. I can’t believe after all the publicity Obama’s forged birth certificate has gotten, not one news agency searching for the truth about it’s authenticity.

    Portuguese Revolutionary War Hero – Peter Francisco // March 5, 2010 at 11:18 pm
    How much do you guys want to bet that the Tower Control kids (that did a great job) and the adults will be prosecuted harsher than the Christmas Day Mooslum Jihadi Balls Bomber Terrorist?

    Portuguese Revolutionary War Hero – Peter Francisco // March 5, 2010 at 11:31 pm
    BO’s new adversary…he is young, well spoken, charismatic and no negro dialect….
    READ:
    By Shawn Tully, senior editor at largeMarch 4, 2010: 11:45 AM ET
    (Fortune Magazine) — On the eve of President Barack Obama’s winter health-care summit, Rep. Paul Ryan is dining at Talay Thai, a no-frills restaurant with metal chairs and Formica tables. On this frigid evening, Ryan strolled coatless to Talay — “I’m from Wisconsin!” he says — from his cramped Capitol Hill office, where tonight, as on most nights, he’ll sleep on a cot.

    ticktock // March 6, 2010 at 12:18 am
    Michelle, Thank you for that rundown on Ryan. Wow, I must say I’m impressed. Now that’s a boot straps kind of a resume’. No wonder I didn’t see any Ivy League elitism about him. I’m partial to economic majors cuz that’s what my husband is. And yes, I think it takes a special kind of braniac for it! LOL. I like absolutely everything on that list about him. And 4o’s young, but old enough! He’s got maturity that many 60 yr olds don’t have.
    I’m sending your post viral.

    Michelle // March 6, 2010 at 12:44 am
    !?!! @ 12:34 am
    On a serious note re: sanity. I really believe Obama is not well in the old upstairs. I think he is insane, and he is getting worse everyday. I think he is a manic depressive. I, Obama am miserable, and it is my mission in life to make everyone as unhappy as I am. I am not a registered psychiatrist, but coming from the Chicago suburbs we did have our share of nut cases running around.

    ticktock // March 6, 2010 at 12:56 am
    Not that anyone here would know the answer to this. But once you’re addicted to drugs isn’t it impossible to break from them without rehab??? Do any of you think he’s doing drugs? I don’t know if some people have purple lips. I don’t know anyone, but suppose it’s possible. Do you guys think the purple lips are really a sign of drug use, or is that just speculation?

    ticktock // March 6, 2010 at 1:11 am
    Kim, He looks more mid eastern to me every time I see him. Didn’t really notice it at first cuz we got it drilled into our heads that he’s African American. But now he definitely looks Muslim. Barack HUSSEIN…duh on me! It takes me a while sometimes!
    And yeah, I have a bad feeling he’s done the hard stuff and it’s affecting him and US now in many ways unfortunately.

  13. The Certification of Live Birth says “this certificate” at the bottom. 🙄

  14. Bob Weber says:

    What makes you think the birthers’ are behind this story?A little bit short sighted if you ask me, but then no one did.

    The story originated on a FreeRepublic thread where, ironically enough, the Bomford FKBC prankster was explaining how he punked the birthers. Freep birther “BP2”, for reasons known only to him, posted the fake “Chanisse Foxx” story. He DID label it as fiction, but the label was buried in the Freep-approved style of indiscriminate use of large fonts, underlining, italics, bold face, and irrelevant images, which distracts the casual reader. Birfers’ reading skills are poor anyway, so the birfers assumed it was true, and it “went viral” across the birfisphere.

    So ironically enough, in a thread about how easy it is to punk the birthers, the birthers got punked again, this time by a fellow birther!

  15. BatGuano says:

    “He DID label it as fiction, but the label was buried in the Freep-approved style of indiscriminate use of large fonts, underlining, italics, bold face, and irrelevant images, which distracts the casual reader.”

    from my experience in poster, print ad and magazine editorial design…… . these are usually all the elements that novice people think they need to convey a message dramatically and conclusively to get their message across…….

    in my experience it doesn’t work.

  16. Black Lion says:

    Of course it does Doc…You have to remember the birthers lack basic reading comprehension skills. Because if they had some they would not be easily fooled by such individuals like Mario or Lucas Smith…

  17. Bob says:

    The government’s opposition in Apuzzo’s suit.

    The government only need 13 pages (3200 words) to respond: No standing; see Berg v. Obama.

  18. Mario Apuzzo says:

    Black Lion,

    I see that you are still trying.

  19. nbc says:

    Another one bites the dust. And while Mario attempted to raise new issues, the Appeal’s court can only consider the Standing as presented.

    Nothing Mario has done has resolved this fundamental constitutional issue.

    Can we hear a ‘confirm’…

  20. Benji Franklin says:

    Dear Mario,

    I see that you are still not standing.

    Benji Franklin

  21. nbc says:

    Hahaha.. Very true. Mario failed to address why the Court was wrong to deny his client standing.
    The Government merely reiterated the point.

    Game over

  22. Mario Apuzzo says:

    Benji Franklin,

    How did you know I was sitting?

  23. nbc says:

    No wonder… That explains a lot…

  24. Mario Apuzzo says:

    nbc,

    I never thought to ask you-why do you care?

  25. nbc says:

    I believe in the Constitution. Simple really…

  26. nbc says:

    And of course, I love to see it when nice things happen to nice people.

  27. Thanks for the link. I am at a distinct disadvantage not being a lawyer: all the government’s jokes went right over my head. It seemed like a straightforward reply and I cannot imagine anyone defending one of the lawsuits not getting in a few zingers.

    The one legal zinger I did get was long ago when when Obama’s lawyer cited Roy v. Fed. Election as an example of “failure to state a claim.”

  28. misha says:

    Hi Mario. How do fuel cells work?

  29. Expelliarmus says:

    I think the zinger is the heavy reliance on citing to Berg v. Obama on the standing issue — which was decided by the SAME court.

  30. aarrgghh says:

    my favorite zingers are in the state and homeland security departments’ joint response to the strunk foia:

    “[the parties] Admit that Plaintiff’s name is Christopher Earl Strunk.”

    “DHS admits that it is a governmental agency.”

    “To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama may be an illegal alien or that President Obama is or ever was a citizen of Indonesia, those allegations are denied.”

    “[defendants] Nonetheless, admit that President Obama was elected President of the United States on November 4, 2008.”

    “To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States, that allegation is denied.”

    “To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama’s birth certificate has not been released to the public, that allegation is denied. To the extent this paragraph alleges that the birth certificate released to the public at the direction of President Obama is not a valid birth certificate or that such certificate is not sufficient proof of U.S. citizenship, those allegations are denied.”

    “Defendants deny that President Obama was born in Kenya or anywhere outside the state of Hawaii.”

    “To the extent this paragraph alleges that Lolo Soetoro is or ever was President Obama’s father by birth or adoption, that allegation is denied. To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama is or ever was a practicing Muslim, that allegation is denied.”

  31. Lupin says:

    I confess I did like that bit enormously.

  32. Mike says:

    Hi Mario. How do fuel cells work?

    Emmerich de Vattel proved that fuel cells cannot exist, therefore, they don’t.

  33. Black Lion says:

    Mario, we see that you are still failing…The more important question is if you give up after your case is dismissed again or will you continue to try and extend your 15 minutes and allow Kerchner to milk his ignorant followers for more money?

  34. Black Lion says:

    Funny Sarah Palin statement…This woman really is begining to believe in her press….It really proves the old saying that stupid people say stupid things…

    Sarah Palin defends writing notes on her hand – God did it, why can’t I?

    Sarah Palin has offered up a new excuse for using her hand to scribble crib notes – God did it, too.

    The former Alaskan governor was speaking at an Ohio Right to Life fund-raiser last week when she addressed the palm-writing incident that occurred at a Tea Party convention last month and earned her so much media mockery.

    “I didn’t [at the time] have a good answer to that criticism because I thought it was so ridiculous,” Palin told the nearly 3,000 people at the event.

    But now the 46-year-old GOP star has her response:

    “If it was good enough for God, scribbling on the palm of his hand, it’s good enough for me,” Palin said to cheers from the crowd, who laughed along with her.

    She cited a line from the Bible as part of her remarks, which she said a supporter had sent her.

    The passage, Isaiah 49:16, says, “See, I have engraved you on the palms of my hands.”

    “I’m in good company,” Palin said.

    The one-time vice presidential candidate became late night fodder for writing “Energy,” “Tax” and “Lift American Spirits” on her palm for the Tea Party event. She even drew jabs from White House spokesman Robert Gibbs.

    Palin has since made light of the incident, poking fun at it during her appearance last week on “The Tonight Show with Jay Leno.”

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/03/08/2010-03-08_sarah_palin_defends_writing_notes_on_her_hand__god_did_it_why_cant_i.html#ixzz0hgdVBHoH

  35. Scientist says:

    Another interesting Sarah note-apparently when she was a kid, her family used to go to Canada for health care. Maybe single-payer health care isn’t so bad after all.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/palin-in-hot-water-for-anecdote-that-her-family-saw-yukon-doctor/article1494080/

  36. Black Lion says:

    Interesting…I guess that socialist medicine was such a bad thing when Sarah was a child…

  37. Black Lion says:

    Orly is suing the DOJ lawyers that defeated her in the last trial under some ridiculous RICO statute…When will she give up? A quick note…She actually tries to compare herself to former Justice Thurgood Marshall…As the saying goes “the balls on this chick”….

    “Motion for leave of court to add Ronald Machen, JR, US Attorney, Rudolph Contrehras, Assistant US Attorney, Alan Burch, Assistant US Attorney as additional defendants and add a Cause of Action for RICO-Racketeering Influenced Corrupt Organizations as an Additional cause of action in the first Amended Complaint.

    1. RICO

    One of the reasons for need for recusal of the US attorney’s office, is a conflict of interest between the interests of the main client of the US Attorney’s office-People of the United States of America and interests of the Defendant Barack Hussein Obama.

    The number one function of the US Attorney’s office is to protect us, the public from criminal activity, violation of criminal statutes, fraud and treason.

    I have presented in my Quo Warranto complaint not only ample evidence of Barack Obama usurping the position of the President and Commander in Chief, but of him violating federal statutes, defrauding Social Security and engaging in identity theft in using social security number 042-68-4425.

    I have provided affidavits from licensed investigators, as well as an official Selective Service printout, showing him using this Social Security number, even though it was assigned to another individual, born in 1890 and assigned in CT between 1976-1977, while Obama resided in HI, and in light of the fact that Obama was never a resident of CT.

    This evidence is so overwhelming, that it doesn’t even require additional investigation.

    I have requested that the Attorney General and US attorney fulfill their duties and verify Obama’s qualifications under Quo Warranto. As they breached their duties, I am asking the court to grant me Ex Relator Status, step in the shoes of these derelict US attorneys, who didn’t do their job, which we, the tax payers, have paid them to do. As the court grants me Ex Relator status, I will be entitled to obtain all the necessary records to prove or disprove Obama’s legitimacy. This shows that the Defendants assertion that I have no Entitlement to records is an absurd and was brought to confuse Your Honor.

    ..it is not only a justiciable issue, but as the Chief Judge for the US District Court for the District of Columbia, you have a duty to exercise your jurisdiction, as according to the undying words of Justice Marshall, not exercising Jurisdiction, where it lies, is a treason to the Constitution.

    What I am doing today is equal to a new civil rights movement, a movement to reassert civil rights of the US citizens to have their cases heard in the court of law based on the Constitution, based on clear evidence, proper original valid records, not based on twittering, not based on intimidation of judges and attorneys. If Obama regime is successful in silencing attorneys like me, working pro bono to uphold the constitutional freedoms, then we don’t have a Constitution, then we have a dictatorship, a tyranny.

    Your Honor the choice is clear: you can be one of those judges who summarily dismissed each and every pleading by Thurgood Marshall, not willing to rock the boat and the establishment, or you can be Judge Earl Warren of the 21st Century and uphold the system of Justice and the Constitution.”

    http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=8193

  38. nbC says:

    Orly is suing the DOJ lawyers that defeated her in the last trial under some ridiculous RICO statute…When will she give up? A quick note…She actually tries to compare herself to former Justice Thurgood Marshall…As the saying goes “the balls on this chick”….

    She is guaranteeing the Bar to disbar her this way…

    She still has her real estate license?

  39. nbc: She still has her real estate license?

    Yes.

    http://www2.dre.ca.gov/PublicASP/pplinfo.asp

    Type in just TAITZ.

  40. G says:

    Patrick also did a good job covering this in detail. Also recommended reading:

    http://badfiction.typepad.com/badfiction/2010/03/special-update-dr-orlys-quo-warranto-response.html

  41. Black Lion says:

    Even funnier is our old buddy BZ…I had wondered what happened to her…I guess she is not so confident in her so called “research” as she claimed….I have to laugh at the birthers…The come to Dr. C’s site and try and unload their nonsense, but once refuted with factual information, they disappear in the woodwork going back to their moderated birther sites to make themselves feel good….

    “BZ’s” most recent post over at FR…She seems to have become more delusional than before…

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2466896/posts

    Hawaii Wants to Fine Me After Framing Me
    Butterdezillion | March 8, 2010 | Butterdezillion

    Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 11:08:30 PM by butterdezillion

    The “Vexatious Requestor Bill” is moving forward. The Office of Taxation wants to fine people who are labeled “vexatious requestors” and Fukino has said there are 4-6 people who are all set to be labeled this. I am certain I am one of them. Fukino is asking for “facilitated passage” of this bill.

    The comment will have the link to the testimony by Fukino and the taxation dept.

    It will also have a link to the latest addition to my blog – a post describing how the DOH falsified the e-mail communications record in order to frame me as a “vexatious requestor”.

    They are out for blood.

    To: HiTech RedNeck
    The basic run-down of the story is at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/

    The Hawaii folks have been breaking their laws right and left. They’re mad because I exposed them at it so they’re doing the Chicago way.

    This may give us a prime reason to contact Governor Lingle’s office though – asking her to become informed on what is happening in her state and asking her to promise to veto this bill if it is passed.

    7 posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 11:14:54 PM by butterdezillion

    I’ve forwarded lots of stuff to Lingle and to Lt Gov Aiona, as well as to all the members of Hawaii’s House and Senate. That’s why they’re mad. They know how guilty their whole government is and they hate it that they’ve been exposed.

    If you read the post on my blog you’ll see that there is a LOT of information. It should have been so easy for them to just give what they’re supposed to. But every bit of information is like pulling teeth. I would love to show everybody all the communications so you could see what these people have been up to, but somebody like Lingle would never have time to go through it all.

    15 posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 11:22:12 PM by butterdezillion

  42. Black Lion says:

    And of course the infamous Ms. Tickly gets in on the action…We had wondered what happened to her once Leo went off on his merry trip….

    To: butterdezillion
    Ugh. Do you know when this goes into effect? I’m sure I am one of the 4-6, too.

    What amazes me is the Takase argument that people are coordinating their UIPA requests. UIPA is supposed to be all about public interest, that’s why people are working together. Takase/Fukino want to punish the public for having a keen interest.

    AND Takase believes that she is qualified to diagnose mental illness? This attitude is so over the top.

    There are no solutions for you, Butter. I don’t believe any of the lawyers involved are on the level. I imagine none in Hawaii would represent a case like this… They’ve probably been forewarned/bullied.

    They are clearly trying to intimidate us. They want us to give up. This is a gross abuse of power.

    I very much disagree with Takase in her assessment that people are abusing the spirit of UIPA. I think she’s just shocked and upset that it’s a law that actually works FOR the people, instead of corrupt government officials like BHO.

    BHO has been afforded every loophole in not being required to show his BC. The one law that works for the people and they CHANGE the law to suit corruption. It’s not a surprise, but it’s shocking none-the-less.

    33 posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:09:55 AM by MissTickly

  43. Scientist says:

    These amateur sleuths are too far out of their depth to even realize how far out of their depth they are. When the Agency recruited young Barry (code name:BlackSmoke) in 81 to run the Afghan War because of his in-depth knowledge of Farsi, acquired in Indonesia, all the files were scrubbed by a document team from Langley. And when they scrub, even Boris and Natasha can’t tell, so Ms Tickly and BZ can just fugeddaboudit.

    Obama was sworn to absolute secrecy about the whole deal from that day forward. My contacts tell me that before he announced in 2007 he asked Gen Hayden, then Director of Central Intelligence, to be released so he could share the whole story with the public. No dice. And it would be quite unethical to make the same request of Panetta, whom he appointed.

    Sorry, birthers, national security requires you wait until the Afghan War is over (good luck with that). The area is still way too sensitive to disclose sources and methods.

  44. misha says:

    My contacts in the Mossad tell me they’re sitting on some real dirt. I can’t tell you everything, but it involves vegetables and Barbie dolls.

  45. SFJeff says:

    My favorite line:
    “This evidence is so overwhelming, that it doesn’t even require additional investigation.”

  46. Black Lion says:

    Interesting article…The attorneys on this blog will find it interesting…

    http://www.lavidalocavore.org/diary/3357/ex-monsanto-lawyer-clarence-thomas-to-hear-major-monsanto-case

    From dsnodgrass at La Vida Locavore:
    In Monsanto v. Geertson Seed Farms, No. 09-475, the U.S. Supreme Court will hear arguments in a case which could have an enormous effect on the future of the American food industry. This is Monsanto’s third appeal of the case, and if they win a favorable ruling from the high court, a deregulated Monsanto may find itself in position to corner the markets of numerous U.S. crops, and to litigate conventional farmers into oblivion.
    Here’s where it gets a bit dicier. Two Supreme Court justices have what appear to be direct conflicts of interest.

    Stephen Breyer

    Charles Breyer, the judge who ruled in the original decision of 2007 which is being appealed, is Stephen Breyer’s brother, who apparently views this as a conflict of interest and has recused himself.

    Clarence Thomas

    From the years 1976 – 1979, Thomas worked as an attorney for Monsanto. Thomas apparently does not see this as a conflict of interest and has not recused himself.

    Fox, meet henhouse.
    And there it is, one main difference between normal Americans and movement conservatives.

  47. Hawaiiborn says:

    Just to add to the Bomford Fake BC, Ed Hale is “scamming” again:

    http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=8504
    http://www.ptarmigannest.net/Docs/pwr.pdf

  48. misha says:

    A genuine copy of a fake Dior.

  49. Melanie Stephan says:

    I took a look at Obama’s fake birth certificate from Hawaii. The purple stamp is missing. Also, his real birth certificate from Kenya has surfaced. This certificate looks real. This means he was really born in Kenya and not Hawaii. See the Kenya Certificate here: http://www.trapshooter.com [not there, Doc.]

    God told me he was crooked and now here is the proof.
    Gods Messanger, Melanie

  50. SFJeff says:

    But God told me that President Obama was sent by him to undue the works of Satan that Cheney had instigated.

    How do we resolve this divine conflict?

  51. dunstvangeet says:

    I wouldn’t even bother responding. The link that she gave points to a cyber-squatting site. There is no birth certificate there.

    And that basically tells you the validity of the rest of her “claims”.

  52. nbC says:

    Gods Messanger, Melanie

    Are you sure it was God who told you this Melanie? Or was it the Devil?

  53. G says:

    Then she should go peddle her crap and fake links over at birther sites, not here.

    (I think Dr. C. should disable her link & put a warning on it, as well as address the other scam-ad link replies we’ve seen pop up here lately)

    The birthers seem to be proud of their gullibility and love to be fleeced by shysters.

  54. misha says:

    Melanie Stephan – “his real birth certificate from Kenya has surfaced”

    Melanie: I completely agree with you! I found a Kenya (Obama’s?) birth certificate, that’s right here.

    Good catch!

  55. Melanie Stephan: I took a look at Obama’s fake birth certificate from Hawaii. The purple stamp is missing. Also, his real birth certificate from Kenya has surfaced.

    It grieves me that anyone would invoke the name of God attached to arrogant and ignorant comments such as yours.

    The published Obama Certification of Live Birth (the facts of which are corroborated by Hawaiian officials and two contemporary newspaper announcements) does have a visible stamp bleeding through from the back where it was applied, and this is clearly visible in the FactCheck.org photos.

    I went to the web site you mentioned, but there is no birth certificate there, so I can’t tell which one of the fakes published was the one that fooled you. Depending on which it was, check out these articles:

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/08/kenyan-birth-certificate-proven-fake-no-doubt/
    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/09/latest-filings-in-barnett-v-obama/
    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/08/a-stake-through-its-heart/
    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/08/third-obama-birth-certificate-appears-in-court/

    Just remember, it is the devil who is the father of lies. You should be careful who you hang out with.

  56. Already noted. I think Melanie just made a typo in this case.

    If anyone comes upon a spam link, please flag it with the reply: Spam. I catch most of them, but…

  57. misha says:

    “God told me he was crooked and now here is the proof. Gods Messanger, Melanie”

    Melanie: I’m Jewish, and I talk to G-d in Hebrew and Yiddish! Ha! Better than you.

    So anyway, I asked “So Yahweh, nu? You’ve heard of this Melanie Stephan, maybe? What’s the deal?”

    And He said, “Melanie Stephan?! A real momser, I tell you. After she comes for a visit, you should count the silverware.”

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