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Ron Polarik vanishes in puff of smoke

Back in July of 2009, I wrote an article here titled: Clearing the smoke, or blowing more smoke? The article was a piece by piece demolition of a faux investigative report commissioned by an alleged anonymous former intelligence officer that in reality was nothing but lies and half lies. That “report” was hosted on Joseph (WND) Farah’s blog called WesternJournalism.com under the title: “Clearing the Smoke on Obama’s Eligibility: An Intelligence Investigator’s June 10 Report”.

Now the “report” has been updated, again at WesternJournalism.com, as Clearing the Smoke on Obama’s Eligibility Updated. The original version of the article is just as stupid as the new one, with gems like:

Most people think of an original birth certificate as a state or hospital document containing a statement by a doctor or midwife.  The hospital document usually is accompanied by a footprint.

Then the article presents what it describes as an example of an authentic original birth certificate without footprints. 🙄

What has changed in the updated version is not notable, but what has disappeared is. The original version said:

Ron Polarik has made what several experts claim to be a cogent case that it is a forgery. There have been a couple of attempts to refute his argument and Polarik has replied to the most extensive of them. I do not claim expertise in this area, but I think it would be best for journalists and politicians to familiarize themselves with the arguments on both sides before they casually dismiss Polarik’s position without taking the trouble to understand it.

I guess now that Polarik has been identified, exposed and shown to have no special image analysis expertise, he is persona non grata at Farah’s place. So Polarik vanishes.

I spent considerable time and effort digging into the Hawaii law code from 1959, the code that was in effect with President Obama was born in Hawaii. I proved that the report substantively misrepresented Hawaiian law. Well that huge chunk of the report has vanished as well.

What is left is an excellent lesson in spin and misrepresentation. For example, they take an unreasonably literal definition of “original birth certificate” and then assert that someone who used the term differently is a liar. In summary, the new version of “Clearing the smoke” has less outright falsehood, but a lot more toxic smoke.

I’d like to think that my article and those of other fact checkers precipitated deletion of some of the non-factual content from the original report. If so, that’s a good thing.

39 Responses to Ron Polarik vanishes in puff of smoke

  1. avatar
    Hawaiiborn April 30, 2010 at 2:27 am #

    Having looked at my grandfathers original Certificate of Live Birth when I was on visit to Hawaii 2 weeks ago; his COLB contained no footprint (and it was tagged for the Territory of Hawaii). This was a form that was submitted to the Department of Health; having a footprint, imprinted to it would be impractical to the filing needs of a government.

    Why birther’s think that this important to a COLB is beyond me.

    I did however find a hospital framed certificate of my birth. It contains less information and looks like one of those certificates you buy at an Office supply store. My name is hand written in Calligraphy and below my name was my weight, and time of birth, and the hospital that created it (Tripler Army Medical Center). That however, had my little foot print. That is a certificate, that would never be submitted as its a NOVELTY certificate, meant for may parents to post on their wall.

    There is no raised seal; there is no Department of Health registrar’s signature or a date of filing.

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    Zixi of Ix April 30, 2010 at 3:03 am #

    Don’t count “Polarik” out just yet.

    Polarik posted on FR frequently throughout the first half of 2009, soaking in the precious Birther Worship.

    Then, in August, 2009 he posted a vanity saying that he wouldn’t be posting any more at all. Polarik said that he’d promised his family several times that he wouldn’t post anymore, but had continued to break that promise. By the end of the initial post, he softened his stance to say that he would never return as Polarik again (2nd to last sentence in the post).

    He even promised.

    That was 08/09/2009 (the thread is titled Polarik is leaving FR).

    From that day forward, he kept his promise.

    For a while, anyway.

    On 03/18/10 Polarik posted another vanity titled Barack Obama is NOT a natural-born citizen! Nearly the entire vanity seemed to consist of quotes from Obama’s Fight The Smears! website.

    His one and only other post in that thread (#1) said Somebody wake up Fukino. Several people took him to task for returning, for breaking his promise.

    At least one asked out loud why he was posting a birther thread during the week which encompassed the most important debates surrounding the health care bill. Another asked what his new made-up degrees and credentials were.

    I have the feeling that he may not have received the ‘welcome back’ he was hoping for, because that was that. Nothing more.

    Still, perhaps if the circumstances were right, we might get a glimpse of him.

    Maybe if we clap our hands and wish really hard, Tinkerbe… Polarik will return to tell us more enchanting tales.

    Golly, I hope so.

  3. avatar
    milspec April 30, 2010 at 9:06 am #

    My local post office has a passport office in it with a sign on the front door. It reads “If your birth certificate has your precious little foot prints on it you have the wrong thing”.

  4. avatar
    Scott Brown April 30, 2010 at 9:07 am #

    After reading an article over at the Post and Email, I think I’ve figured out the COLB snafu with regards to getting a Passport – of course, I was called a liar here at this blog for having the audacity to truthfully say that I was unable to get a Passport with my COLB that looks EXACTLY like Obamas. I’m guessing it if someone says something that doesn’t fit with their preconceived Obama ideas, then that person MUST be a liar. I was never good at identifying argument types – but isn’t that called circular reasoning?

    My COLB (that was not good enough to get a Passport) looks identical to that of the one posted as evidence for Obama. The Post and Email posted a COLB that has more information – (i.e. mother and father birth locations) – which would be necessary information in obtaining a Passport. It looks almost identical to Obamas, but it just has a tad bit more information.

    Therefore, I’m guessing that’s why my COLB wasn’t acceptable in order to obtain a Passport – it would have needed to include my mother and father’s birth location, which like Obama’s – it did not. However, since I’m more fortunate that Obama and was able to secure my long-form, I now have a US Passport in hand.

    I wasn’t lying then and I’m not lying now.

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    Lupin April 30, 2010 at 9:47 am #

    Let’s cut to the chase.

    There is no such thing as a COLB that looks exactly like Obama’s that will not get you a US passport.

    If you claim the contrary, you were lying then, and you’re lying now.

    It’s that simple.

  6. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 30, 2010 at 9:53 am #

    So, in which state were you born?

    I thought in Birtherland, the failure to produce evidence was proof of fraud.

    You object to being called a liar, but this has been proven by your own standards. You must be covering something really embarrassing up.

  7. avatar
    Black Lion April 30, 2010 at 9:58 am #

    Scott Brown, impressive. Your attempt to finally address your lie after ignoring the questions for over a week was lacking to say the least. Additionally you never address the question of what state you were born in. So you don’t get a pass. You were lying then and are still attempting to mislead. Most COLB’s do not have the place of birth for the parents on them. Your statement was that your COLB looked “exactly like Obama’s” and you were unable to get a passport. You are now trying to change what you said. The fact is that we have people from HI that post on this board that have stated that their COLB’s are EXACTLY like Obama’s and had no problems getting a passport. In NYS, the COLB has no parental information other than their names and I was able to get my US passport. So your story is still made up crap. It makes no sense. I am sure some birthers would believe what you are saying but anyone with intelligence can see you are trying to explain away your original lie by making up another so called explanation. If you had just been honest and admitted that you exaggerated before, then you would have been respected. But this story is just a pathetic attempt to mislead. And no one is going to buy it…

  8. avatar
    richCares April 30, 2010 at 10:30 am #

    wow, a nervy liar!

  9. avatar
    Arthur April 30, 2010 at 10:39 am #

    Scott Brown:

    First, when you speak of being denied a passport when you presented your COLB, could you explain what documents you were asked to provide instead?

    Second, when you refer to presenting your COLB, what exactly do you mean? Did you perhaps mistakenly present a stock certificate for Columbia Banking Systems (trading symbol COLB)? A webshot of Colby Colb’s Facebook page? Your membership card in the COLB fan club (“The sexiest, leetest, coolest player to ever hit the Counter-Strike community,” see Urban Dictionary)? A jewel case from a c.d. by the rapper COLB? Or maybe the schematics for the commuter airplane by Fairchild called the COLB? People do make mistakes; maybe all you need to do is give them the right COLB.

  10. avatar
    Arliss April 30, 2010 at 11:03 am #

    You are nothing but a bald-faced liar!

    I have a Certificate with all the info you mention, even has my footprints on it.
    When I went to get a passport I was told that this was not a Birth Certificate, it was called a Hospital Certificate of Birth.

    Obama’s COLB is the ONLY document he would receive from Hawaii.
    That document can be used to obtain a passport in any of the 50 states.

  11. avatar
    Mary Brown April 30, 2010 at 11:29 am #

    Scott or Scotta, My Transcript of Birth from NY does NOT contain the birthplaces of my parents- Johnstown NY and Scrantton PA nor the city of my birth. It does contain their full names. Scott, please assimilate and accomodate this information. I can get a passport with it and I can submit it if I ever run for President. Now can you think out of your own box or will you call me a liar?

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    Black Lion April 30, 2010 at 11:50 am #

    Mary, Scott is lying to cover up her original lie. She hasn’t figured out she is dealing with intelligent people, not Orly followers or Free Republic posters….She really thought that story she told, using the Post and Fail to assist her, would suffice. The bottom line is that she was caught in a lie and is trying to cover up that lie by lying some more. Soctt Brown = Epic Fail.

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    G April 30, 2010 at 11:54 am #

    Then WHAT STATE WERE YOU BORN IN?

    Why won’t you answer this question, Scott Brown?

    That is why we think you are a liar. So spare me your little “woe is me” whine here. After nearly 2 weeks, you still completely duck this question which has been asked to you repeatedly and now try to come up with more stories to cover your lying cowardly butt instead of simply answering the question.

    Because you have shown nothing but cowardly dishonesty here, your actions are what paints you as a liar. So come clean or STFU!

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    richCares April 30, 2010 at 12:30 pm #

    scott brown the liar that thinks that the Ohio State Flag designed in 1902 is Obama’s designed flag, he fell for the right wing idiocy – scott the dummy. Just a little note to this idiot, Obama wasn’t around in 1902 when Ohio’s “O” flag was designed. Are you really that dumb?

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    Hawaiiborn April 30, 2010 at 12:42 pm #

    The Post and Email posted a COLB that has more information – (i.e. mother and father birth locations) – which would be necessary information in obtaining a Passport.

    You’ve been told in a lot of postings that this is absolutely bupkis.

    IM from HAWAII.

    I HAVE the exact form that Obama has for my COLB.

    I was able to get a PASSPORT using it.

    IT doesn’t contain any other information, other than my parents name and their chosen ethnicity. It doesn’t have their birthdate. It doesn’t have the hospital I was born at. It doesn’t have a doctor’s signature. It doesn’t have my parent’s signatures.

    for the umpteenth time:

    http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_830.html

    A certified birth certificate has a registrar’s raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar’s signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar’s office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.

    That is all the information that mine and Obama’s COLB contains.

    After reading an article over at the Post and Email, I think I’ve figured out the COLB snafu with regards to getting a Passport – of course, I was called a liar here at this blog for having the audacity to truthfully say that I was unable to get a Passport with my COLB that looks EXACTLY like Obamas.I’m guessing it if someone says something that doesn’t fit with their preconceived Obama ideas, then that person MUST be a liar.I was never good at identifying argument types – but isn’t that called circular reasoning?My COLB (that was not good enough to get a Passport) looks identical to that of the one posted as evidence for Obama.The Post and Email posted a COLB that has more information – (i.e. mother and father birth locations) – which would be necessary information in obtaining a Passport.It looks almost identical to Obamas, but it just has a tad bit more information.Therefore, I’m guessing that’s why my COLB wasn’t acceptable in order to obtain a Passport – it would have needed to include my mother and father’s birth location, which like Obama’s – it did not.However, since I’m more fortunate that Obama and was able to secure my long-form, I now have a US Passport in hand.I wasn’t lying then and I’m not lying now.

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    richCares April 30, 2010 at 12:49 pm #

    fact (according to scott brown) Obama designed Ohio’s state flag in 1902 so that he could run for president after he was born. Now that is funny. We all need to riducle scott brown all the time.

    the flag scott hates:
    http://www.50states.com/flag/ohflag.htm

  17. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 30, 2010 at 12:55 pm #

    This testimony is the most relevant to the issue at hand. Scott Brown’s anecdote, even if true, is just a curiosity.

  18. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 30, 2010 at 1:04 pm #

    My speculation is that the passport story Scott Brown told is not hers but rather one she read somewhere and believed. Since she doesn’t know which state the story supposedly came from, she can’t answer.

    We already know she’s prone to falling for hoaxes.

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    dunstvangeet April 30, 2010 at 1:40 pm #

    According to the form that the State Department has you fill out to get a Passport, here’s the requirements for a birth certificate:

    1. Your full name (Barack Hussein Obama II)

    2. The full name of your Parents (Barack Hussein Obama & Stanley Ann Durham)

    3. Date of Birth (August 4, 1961, 7:24 PM)

    4. Place of Birth (Honolulu, Hawaii – Honolulu County, Island of Oahu)

    5. Date the birth record was filed (August 8, 1961)

    6. Seal or other certification from the official custodian (A seal on it, along with the date it was issued and a stamped signature)

    You can confirm these requirements here: http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/79955.pdf

    You can confirm the elements here (except for the date, and the stamped signature): http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_2.jpg

  20. avatar
    BatGuano April 30, 2010 at 1:44 pm #

    After reading an article over at the Post and Email, I think I’ve figured out the COLB snafu ….

    …. and yet you would not provide us with the most simplistic evidence of proof. two simple letter ,preferably capital .

  21. avatar
    misha April 30, 2010 at 1:53 pm #

    Scott Brown: unlike some of the others here, I believe you. In fact, my BC has a footprint. You can see it right here.

    Don’t give up.

  22. avatar
    Kevin Bellas April 30, 2010 at 3:28 pm #

    True, There are some short COLB that can’t be used for US Passport, but not the COLB Pres. Obama posted. That is a accepted COLB. It’s the same one I used to obtain my US Passport.

    http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_830.html

    But of course having your state would resolve why your COLB was rejected.

    At the end of the day “liar liar pants on fire”

  23. avatar
    richCares April 30, 2010 at 3:34 pm #

    prone, like the Obama flag story, the idiot!

  24. avatar
    J. Edward Tremlett April 30, 2010 at 4:36 pm #

    *applauds the doc*

    Of course, the problem with liars like the folks at WND is that once you show up their lies, they just adjust their course a bit and make new ones.

  25. avatar
    Epectitus April 30, 2010 at 5:01 pm #

    You sir are a liar.

    The US State Department has long been explicit regarding what information is required for a COLB to be proof of citizenship at birth, and thereby acceptable for a passport application.

    7 FAM 1119 PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP BY BIRTH IN THE UNITED STATES
    (TL:CON-64; 11-30-95)

    a. To establish a claim to U.S. citizenship by birth in the United States:

    A person born in the United States in a place where official records of birth were kept at the time of his birth shall submit with the application for a passport a birth certificate under the seal of the official custodian of records. [22 CFR 51.43.]

    b. The birth certificate must:

    (1) Show the applicant’s full name, and date and place of birth;

    (2) Have a filing date within 1 year of the birth; and

    (3) Bear the signature of the official custodian of birth records and the raised, impressed, or multicolored seal of the issuing office.

    You will note… no information regarding the parents is required at all.

  26. avatar
    Mary Brown April 30, 2010 at 5:23 pm #

    That is what pathological lying is all about. But it makes for a convoluted story, rather like the ones on the soap operat I watched (confession) when in college at 19.

  27. avatar
    John April 30, 2010 at 9:07 pm #

    http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDrRJP

  28. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 30, 2010 at 9:34 pm #

    So Polland is now posting under his real name. Crap to pretty music is still crap.

  29. avatar
    John April 30, 2010 at 9:40 pm #

    His videos are pretty interesting. I do find the interesting notes he makes about Fack Check Birth Certificate #4.
    http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_4.jpg

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    Tomtech May 1, 2010 at 1:10 am #

    Here is the statement from the U.S. State Department.

    *A certified birth certificate has a registrar’s raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar’s signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar’s office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.

    http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_830.html

    I don’t see a requirement that the parents are even required to be listed, with or without their place of birth.

  31. avatar
    The Sheriff's A Ni- May 1, 2010 at 3:43 am #

    You’re a liar.

    On top of that you’re a racist asshat loser who somehow thinks that taking the nom de plume of the newest Lincoln Chaffee is going to offend our liberal sensibilities. Somehow you didn’t see your bomb throwing troll posting plan all the way through. And your mom really will shut off the internet if you don’t take out the garbage right now.

    On top of that, Barack Obama is the legally and duly sworn President of our great nation and there is nothing you can do about it until November, 2012.

    Sucks to be you, dude.

  32. avatar
    nemocapn May 1, 2010 at 5:04 am #

    I’m inclined to believe Scott’s story if she were born in Texas or California. The US passport office won’t accept short form birth certificates from those states. I think someone already mentioned that on this site.

  33. avatar
    Lupin May 1, 2010 at 5:47 am #

    Yes but “Scott” insisted that her BC was EXACTLY like Obama’s which excludes the cases you mention. Hence “Scott” is a liar.

  34. avatar
    BlackLion May 1, 2010 at 10:28 am #

    Which doesn’t change the facts that he is unqualified to make any determinations and more importantly he is full of crap…when even WND runs from you it shows that you are prettly much damaged goods…

  35. avatar
    dunstvangeet May 1, 2010 at 10:39 am #

    Read the actual passport application, page 2, under “Proof of citizenship”.

    “A birth certificate must include your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records.”

    http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/79955.pdf

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    HellT May 3, 2010 at 1:50 pm #

    And the reason for disallowing the short forms of those two states: the California short form has programming errors, the Texas short form contains insufficient information. So there’s rational, practical reasons for the short forms from both of those states to be rejected. Most importantly, Texas and California are the only states whose short form birth certificates are not accepted as primary evidence of US citizenship.

    I think Scott’s certificate shows she was born in the state of Denial, which would explain why it was rejected.

  37. avatar
    richCares May 4, 2010 at 10:28 am #

    that video impressed jon, so another one is full of crap

  38. avatar
    Black Lion May 4, 2010 at 3:48 pm #

    Speaking of things that would impress John, how about the article from the Post and Fail today. They “speculate” that Obama is trying to shut down the oil industry. Of course the innuendo from the FOX talking heads and Hannity, Limbaugh, and Beck is that the BP oil spill is somehow Obama’s fault or his “Katrina”, more scary are some of the commenters. These are some disturbed individuals…No wonder they are willing to believe whatever the birthers are pushing…

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/05/03/is-obama-trying-to-shut-down-the-oil-industry/

    live oak says:
    Monday, May 3, 2010 at 9:14 PM
    I was thinking this exact theme for the past few days, and I do believe Kenya Boy will try to take over the oil industry. I really think he will. I can’t stand Robert Gibbs and that fake smile with his “boots on the throat of BP”. They are afraid people will sue the government for their inaction….a whole 12 days to respond to this disaster, and Kenya Boy had to have a party first!!!!!!!! If he does try to take over the oil industry, it will start WWIII imho. We have GOT to get Kenya Boy out of the WH. Every time you turn around it’s some major crisis….and many of them are done deliberately….look at the attempted bombing in NY…PERHAPS to keep people from going to Dr. Manning’s Columbia Trial. There’s always something. This has GOT to STOP NOW!!!!!

    Wow…the bombing in NYC was to try and stop Manning’s pretend trial? Sometime you have to wonder if hating Obama is a disease for some….

    jane says:
    Monday, May 3, 2010 at 9:37 PM
    Isn’t it amazing that British Petroleum, which got a big Libyan oil contract due to Mr. Obama releasing the non-sick Lockerbie bomber, just happens after Obama “says he will open oil exploration” which is no exploration at all, to blow up an offshore oil well it was drilling.

    This was a deliberate act of sabotage by the cartels to shut down American oil security, putting it back into BP oil wells enriching Libya and OPEC.

    Do not be fooled oh ignorant kidlings, these false flags and sabos happen all of the time.

    Obama sent SWAT to prevent any other investigators and to set things up for nationalized oil, another serfdom marxofascist takeover.
    He is petty and vindictive, he needed to mock “drill baby drill” and to stick us with $10/gallon gas while enriching Qadafi and BP and take over yet more American industry.
    At some point Obama, you’ve seized enough industry, you fascist!
    Qadafi…he just gave him $2.5 million of YOUR dollars last year!! Qadafi is a terrorist! He also gave Soros billions for offshore drilling off Venezuela.

    Obama hates America and is doing everything he can get away with to destroy it.
    He’s taking over resources to pay off his thefts..oil, fishing, water, even more federal lands he will sell off. WE pay.

    The only thing missing from that screed was that Obama ordered the moon landing faked…We have a lot of mentally ill people in this country…

  39. avatar
    Mary Brown May 4, 2010 at 8:24 pm #

    These people are crazy and stupid. Ignorance is inborn and is tolerable. Stupidity is learned and is not.