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  1. avatar
    Black Lion June 23, 2010 at 10:27 am #

    Speaking of current events, the Post and Fail are advocating sedition with their usual zeal. This time they are going after General McCrystal to “do their birther bidding”….Sometimes you can’t make this stuff up….

    “General McChrystal, I and millions of Americans now say to you:

    Your “special assistant,” Duncan Boothby, who arranged the Rolling Stone interview, has resigned. Your immediate supervisor, Admiral Mullen, has thrown you under the bus. At the meeting you are expected to attend tomorrow, the dictator-in-chief will most likely excoriate and fire you in shades reminiscent of Josef Stalin and Adolf Hitler.

    You are serving under a tin-pot usurping dictator from Africa who is no more American than the Muslim religion he promotes and tries at every turn to appease.

    You can rescue this country from a tyrannical, megalomaniacal, ineligible, fraudulent Chicago thug. right now. You have the ability to do it at your meeting with all of the other bad actors who know that Obama is ineligible to serve. Of course there was going to be a difference of opinion between them and you: as a foreign-born domestic enemy, Obama cares nothing for this country and will do the same thing to you that he did to your predecessor, General McKiernan: oust you in what he hopes will be a disgrace. What will happen to your pension then?

    There is therefore nothing to lose in challenging his authority to hold the office he has fraudulently seized. He wasn’t born in Hawaii, but instead was born a dual citizen which alone is enough to disqualify him. He is no more a “natural born Citizen” than Arnold Schwarzenegger or Bobby Jindal. If you can criticize him in an interview, you can do it to his lying, conniving face.

    This is an opportunity for you to relieve this nation of the horrors of the last 16 months in which a foreigner who hates America and everything about her has wrought the worst kind of abuse on every single citizen of this country. Contrary to what the mainstream media says, he has no authority to fire you because he is illegitimate. Instead of going along with this charade, you can end it tomorrow. Stand up to the usurper, challenge his eligibility publicly, and force him to demonstrate his eligibility. We all know that he cannot do it.

    You have a choice. You could assume the distinct honor of demanding the arrest of Obama and all of his illegitimate cronies tomorrow. You could use this opportunity to save America, or you can continue to play along with Obama’s pretense of eligibility and authority because it is the easy way out. Which will it be?”

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/06/22/general-mcchrystal-now-is-your-time-to-stand-up-for-your-country/

    And from the peanut gallery….The comments make you wonder about the sanity of some of our fellow Americans….Blinded by hatred of the President that they advocate treason and wish for things that could never occur….

    Unbamboozleus says:
    Wednesday, June 23, 2010 at 6:28 AM
    I sincerely hope that McChrystal does not resign but holds on to his job with all his might until Obama fires him. As I understand it, since he could then demonstrate being directly harmed by the man, he would be in the best possible position to challenge Obama’s eligibility, much as Gerald Walpin was. This could be the case that would end this nightmare.

    Joe The Blogger says:
    Wednesday, June 23, 2010 at 1:07 AM
    McChrystal would have ’standing’ to file a ‘Quo Warranto’ complaint in The District Court of Washington D.C. if Obama fires him. That would be the trial of The Millenium. McChrystal must not resign.

    TexomaEd says:
    Tuesday, June 22, 2010 at 5:45 PM
    I wonder if McChrystal, during his time in Afghanistan, might have picked up some interesting information about Obama and the statements from Dr. Manning regarding Obama’s ties to Pakistan and Afghanistan.

  2. avatar
    misha June 23, 2010 at 12:00 pm #

    Black Lion: so they’re advocating a coup.

    “He is no more a “natural born Citizen” than Arnold Schwarzenegger or Bobby Jindal.”

    Sorry children, Jindal is NBC.

    “At the meeting you are expected to attend tomorrow, the dictator-in-chief will most likely excoriate and fire you in shades reminiscent of Josef Stalin and Adolf Hitler.”

    Or Harry Truman and MacArthur.

  3. avatar
    yguy June 23, 2010 at 12:37 pm #

    The [COLB] is … the only type of birth record the state issues.

    I see factcheck has yet to mend its dissembling ways.

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    Black Lion June 23, 2010 at 12:47 pm #

    yguy: I see factcheck has yet to mend its dissembling ways.

    I believe that is what it says on the official HI DOH website….

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    Black Lion June 23, 2010 at 12:49 pm #

    misha: Black Lion: so they’re advocating a coup.“He is no more a “natural born Citizen” than Arnold Schwarzenegger or Bobby Jindal.”Sorry children, Jindal is NBC.“At the meeting you are expected to attend tomorrow, the dictator-in-chief will most likely excoriate and fire you in shades reminiscent of Josef Stalin and Adolf Hitler.”Or Harry Truman and MacArthur.

    I like how they put Jindal, who was born in the US, with Arnold, who was born in Austria….The birthers will never vote for Jindal…He was useful to pretend that the GOP had some diversity…But deep down they would hate him almost as much as they hate Obama….

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    misha June 23, 2010 at 12:53 pm #

    Black Lion: I like how they put Jindal, who was born in the US, with Arnold, who was born in Austria….The birthers will never vote for Jindal…He was useful to pretend that the GOP had some diversity…But deep down they would hate him almost as much as they hate Obama….

    What are they going to do in ’12, when Romney chooses Jindal?

  7. avatar
    Black Lion June 23, 2010 at 1:00 pm #

    misha: What are they going to do in ’12, when Romney chooses Jindal?

    Pretend that Vattel never existed….

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    Majority Will June 23, 2010 at 1:03 pm #

    Once again from the HI DOH:

    The state Department of Health no longer issues copies of paper birth certificates as was done in the past, said spokeswoman Janice Okubo.

    The department only issues “certifications” of live births, and that is the “official birth certificate” issued by the state of Hawaii, she said.

    And, it’s only available in electronic form.

    Okubo explained that the Health Department went paperless in 2001.

    “At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting,” she said.

    Information about births is transferred electronically from hospitals to the department.

    “The electronic record of the birth is what (the Health Department) now keeps on file in order to provide same-day certified copies at our help window for most requests,” Okubo said.

    Asked for more information about the short-form versus long-form birth documents, Okubo said the Health Department “does not have a short-form or long-form certificate.”

    “The birth certificate form has been modified over the years and decades to conform to national standards and models,” she said.

    Okubo also emphasized the certification form “contains all the information needed by all federal government agencies for transactions requiring a birth certificate.”

    http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html

    Choosing not to believe or understand these simple statements is a birther’s problem and mental defect.

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    Rickey June 23, 2010 at 1:06 pm #

    Black Lion: (quoting Post & EFail)
    I sincerely hope that McChrystal does not resign but holds on to his job with all his might until Obama fires him. As I understand it, since he could then demonstrate being directly harmed by the man, he would be in the best possible position to challenge Obama’s eligibility, much as Gerald Walpin was.

    The birthers apparently haven’t gotten the news that Gerald Walpin’s “wrongful termination” suit was dismissed last week.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/33314295/WALPIN-v-CNCS-31-Memorandum-of-Opinion-Dismissing-Dcd-04503016926-31-O

  10. avatar
    Bob Ross June 23, 2010 at 2:03 pm #

    yguy:
    I see factcheck has yet to mend its dissembling ways.

    Aww youre back to this after getting beaten down so easily over your John Kerry smear

  11. avatar
    Greg June 23, 2010 at 2:07 pm #

    yguy: I see factcheck has yet to mend its dissembling ways.

    Can you please provide the form to request another type of birth certificate? This woman wanted to know how to request a “long form” birth certificate for her third and fifth child.

    How much does it cost to get this other form?

    Clearly, you know something that the State of Hawaii doesn’t.

  12. avatar
    yguy June 23, 2010 at 2:50 pm #

    Black Lion:
    I believe that is what it says on the official HI DOH website….

    You’re probably thinking of the DHHL website which, though also maintained under state auspices, is not authoritative as to DoH policy.

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    DaveH June 23, 2010 at 2:52 pm #

    Greg: Can you please provide the form to request another type of birth certificate? This woman wanted to know how to request a “long form” birth certificate for her third and fifth child. How much does it cost to get this other form? Clearly, you know something that the State of Hawaii doesn’t.

    You should never confuse a birfer with facts.

  14. avatar
    yguy June 23, 2010 at 2:55 pm #

    Majority Will: Once again from the HI DOH:The state Department of Health no longer issues copies of paper birth certificates as was done in the past, said spokeswoman Janice Okubo.

    […]

    Kind of a shame the interviewer didn’t challenge her to square that with HRS §338-13(a), don’t you think?

  15. avatar
    yguy June 23, 2010 at 3:04 pm #

    Greg:

    How much does it cost to get this other form?

    Under HRS §338-14.5, I’d say it costs $10.

    Clearly, you know something that the State of Hawaii doesn’t.

    I doubt the State of Hawaii is unaware of its own laws, though it’s possible that certain of its employees choose to be.

  16. avatar
    Mike June 23, 2010 at 3:11 pm #

    yguy:
    Kind of a shame the interviewer didn’t challenge her to square that with HRS §338-13(a), don’t you think?

    This crap again? I refer you to the text of the Act, as follows, with my emphasis:

    the department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof.

    And it gets worse for you, yguy – the following clause really must hurt your feefees:

    (b) Copies of the contents of any certificate on file in the department, certified by the department shall be considered for all purposes the same as the original, subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18.

    And then there’s clause c:

    (c) Copies may be made by photography, dry copy reproduction, typing, computer printout or other process approved by the director of health.

    How’s it taste, yguy? Is that crow you’re chowing down just as tasty as can be? It better be, because you’re going to be eating a lot of it.

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    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) June 23, 2010 at 3:13 pm #

    yguy: Under HRS §338-14.5, I’d say it costs $10.I doubt the State of Hawaii is unaware of its own laws, though it’s possible that certain of its employees choose to be.

    Its just a written verification. Not the long form you guys have been clammoring about

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    Majority Will June 23, 2010 at 3:21 pm #

    yguy:
    Kind of a shame the interviewer didn’t challenge her to square that with HRS §338-13(a), don’t you think?

    I don’t think you know what you’re talking about.

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    richCares June 23, 2010 at 3:32 pm #

    I don’t think you know what you’re talking about.
    .
    noi, he certainly doesn’t, but after all he is a birther!

  20. avatar
    yguy June 23, 2010 at 3:53 pm #

    Majority Will:
    I don’t think

    You don’t have to. Just go read the statute, and you’ll know it means that if Obama wants a certified copy of his original BC, the DoH has to provide one.

    Or, consider starbulletin.com more authoritative as to HI law than capitol.hawaii.gov, if that’s your pleasure.

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    richCares June 23, 2010 at 4:02 pm #

    yguy,maybe you should read it
    http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrs2008/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0014_0003.htm

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    Dr. Conspiracy June 23, 2010 at 4:06 pm #

    yguy: You don’t have to. Just go read the statute, and you’ll know it means that if Obama wants a certified copy of his original BC, the DoH has to provide one.

    As a general policy I will trust a state to interpret its own laws better than I can, and certainly better than you can. That’s not a 100% guarantee, but it would certainly take more than a “just go read” to make an argument I would pay attention to. There is also the question: if it’s possible to get a long form today, why hasn’t one surfaced from someone? Surely there’s at least one birther born in Hawaii.

    That said, the birthers have been such a pain in the ass, that I can see Hawaii digging in their heels more than they would at other times. Nonetheless, I suspect that there are circumstances under which the DoH would cough up a certified copy of the long form, including a personal request from President Obama to Governor Lingle, or a subpoena from a court of competent jurisdiction (that’s a fancy term meaning “not a citizen lynch mob grand jury”).

    However, the question of whether Hawaii has to provide Obama with a long form or not is not the important question. The important question, the answer to which I do know, is whether or not the President has to show you a long form, and the answer is “no.”

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    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) June 23, 2010 at 4:23 pm #

    yguy: You don’t have to. Just go read the statute, and you’ll know it means that if Obama wants a certified copy of his original BC, the DoH has to provide one.Or, consider starbulletin.com more authoritative as to HI law than capitol.hawaii.gov, if that’s your pleasure.

    That’s not what the statute says and you know it. The statute states that one can request verification of a record for $10 it does not state that the original long form would be provided.. You birthers sure know how to misread statutes quite a bit.

  24. avatar
    yguy June 23, 2010 at 4:25 pm #

    richCares: yguy,maybe you should read it
    http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrs2008/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0014_0003.htm

    It says if the applicant requests verification ILO a certified copy, the DoH shall provide verification, and §338-13(a) says if a certified copy is requested, the DoH shall provide one. So what’s your point?

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    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) June 23, 2010 at 4:32 pm #

    yguy: It says if the applicant requests verification ILO a certified copy, the DoH shall provide verification, and §338-13(a) says if a certified copy is requested, the DoH shall provide one. So what’s your point?

    No section A states that they will provide verification of the existance of a copy. It does not state they will provide the certified copy.

  26. avatar
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) June 23, 2010 at 4:36 pm #

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross): HRS §338-13

    The COLB is a certified copy yguy. What is the point you’re trying to make?

  27. avatar
    richCares June 23, 2010 at 4:58 pm #

    The COLB is a certified copy yguy. What is the point you’re trying to make?
    .
    he is trying to say you can get the long form, which you can’t.

  28. avatar
    Greg June 23, 2010 at 5:07 pm #

    yguy: I doubt the State of Hawaii is unaware of its own laws, though it’s possible that certain of its employees choose to be.

    Call them.

    Or, how about this, you tell me which law school you graduated from.

    Or, cite someone other than yguy who agrees with you.

    Or, cite the Hawaii regulation detailing how to get a long form instead of a COLB.

    Until you do one of those things, I think I’ll believe the State of Hawaii over your pseudonymous analysis.

    Or, consider starbulletin.com more authoritative as to HI law than capitol.hawaii.gov,

    No, it’s the State of Hawaii speaking through its spokeperson compared to yguy, a random internet pseudonym doing armchair lawyering.

    I think it’s obvious who is more authoritative when speaking about the laws of Hawaii!

    (Here’s a clue to birthers – it’s not yguy!)

  29. avatar
    Scientist June 23, 2010 at 5:21 pm #

    Greg: I think it’s obvious who is more authoritative when speaking about the laws of Hawaii!
    (Here’s a clue to birthers – it’s not yguy!)

    yguy seems to be a usurper, usurping functions that properly belong to the State of Hawaii, the voters and the Congress of the United States. Maybe someone should file a Quo Warranto against him and his fellow travellers.

  30. avatar
    misha June 23, 2010 at 5:26 pm #

    yguy: I doubt the State of Hawaii is unaware of its own laws, though it’s possible that certain of its employees choose to be.

    (808) 586-4400

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    yguy June 23, 2010 at 5:57 pm #

    Greg:
    Call them.
    Or, how about this, you tell me which law school you graduated from.

    Why none. How is it you think I understand the Constitution so much better than you do? 8)

    Or, cite someone other than yguy who agrees with you.

    What would that prove?

    Or, cite the Hawaii regulation detailing how to get a long form instead of a COLB.

    Why? Because the lack of such a regulation nullifies HRS §338-13(a)?

    I think I’ll believe the State of Hawaii

    No you won’t, because other than the HI Constitution there is no more authoritative voice of the State than the HRS, and you don’t believe what the applicable statute says in no uncertain terms.

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    Rickey June 23, 2010 at 6:07 pm #

    Scientist:
    yguy seems to be a usurper, usurping functions that properly belong to the State of Hawaii, the voters and the Congress of the United States.Maybe someone should file a Quo Warranto against him and his fellow travellers.

    yguy is the person who claimed that John Kerry wasn’t entitled to his first Purple Heart, that Benedict Arnold lived out his life in remorse over being a traitor, and now he is practicing law without a license. He is a troll who has no interest in the truth.

  33. avatar
    misha June 23, 2010 at 6:09 pm #

    Greg: you tell me which law school you graduated from.
    yguy: Why none. How is it you think I understand the Constitution so much better than you do?

    That crashing sound is the Irony meter exploding.

  34. avatar
    richCares June 23, 2010 at 6:16 pm #

    Yguy, the birth certificate issue was originally meant to prevent Obama from being president. It did not work, Obama is the president. His portrait labeled “president” is in every US Gov building. The birth certificate issue is over, what are the birthers doing, what is their game plan. Really silly people and total failures! Their theme song is “ Let’s fail again like we did last summer”. Is it fun being on the losing side or is it mental illness?

  35. avatar
    misha June 23, 2010 at 6:19 pm #

    “or is it mental illness?”

    It’s mental illness.

  36. avatar
    Rickey June 23, 2010 at 6:27 pm #

    Thanks to Black Lion, we can keep up to date on the Past & EFail without actually having to go there. For some time I’ve been curious about Sharon Rondeau, and I have discovered who she is. She lives in Connecticut and apparently is a professional harpist. On her website she lists her full name as “Sharon Hanjian Rondeau,” which is curious because Wikipedia says that “Hanjian” is a pejorative Chinese word for “race traitor.”

    http://www.harpinmotion.com/

    This clearly is the Sharon Rondeau of Past & EFail infamy. Her Facebook page includes a photo of her at the harp, and as you can see her interests include a wide array of right-wing organizations.

    http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1501689967&ref=ts

    At “Patriots for America” she lists her home town as Stafford Springs, CT.

    http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/profile/SharonRondeau

    The editorial address for the Post & EFail is a P.O. Box in Stafford Springs.

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    JoZeppy June 23, 2010 at 6:39 pm #

    yguy: Why none. How is it you think I understand the Constitution so much better than you do? What would that prove?Why? Because the lack of such a regulation nullifies HRS §338-13(a)?No you won’t, because other than the HI Constitution there is no more authoritative voice of the State than the HRS, and you don’t believe what the applicable statute says in no uncertain terms.

    Hmmmm..let’s get this straight…you didn’t go to law school, purport to know the constitution better than anyone who has, can’t cite to anyone who agrees with your interpretation, and you expect everyone to bow to your interpretation of Hawaiian law.

    Yeah, that makes sense.

  38. avatar
    yguy June 23, 2010 at 6:50 pm #

    richCares: Yguy, the birth certificate issue was originally meant to prevent Obama from being president. It did not work,

    Then one cannot help but wonder why factcheck felt the need to dissemble about the availability of the original.

  39. avatar
    richCares June 23, 2010 at 7:00 pm #

    Then one cannot help but wonder why factcheck felt the need to dissemble about the availability of the original.
    .
    how silly this comment is! you take the cake!

  40. avatar
    Scientist June 23, 2010 at 7:15 pm #

    yguy: Or, how about this, you tell me which law school you graduated from.
    Why none.

    Just as an aside, why wouldn’t you go to law school? One would think that someone with such unique “legal theories” would want to test them in real courts in front of real judges. I mean if i come up with some important scientific insight, I really want to know what my scientific peers, as opposed to random people on the internet, think about it. I can only conclude that you are afraid of the challenge of arguing your position in real courts. Very sad.

  41. avatar
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) June 23, 2010 at 7:51 pm #

    yguy:
    Then one cannot help but wonder why factcheck felt the need to dissemble about the availability of the original.

    There was nothing to dissemble. Once again you’re the only one dissembling, misinterpreting laws to fit your preconceived conclusions. Everyone here knows the constitution a lot better than you purport to.

  42. avatar
    sfjeff June 23, 2010 at 7:55 pm #

    The fact that Yguy still thinks Factcheck “dissembled” about examing an original COLB shows just demonstrates again there is no point in discussing this with him.

    Once Yguy has decided a banana is really a railroad spike, no amount of rational discussion will dissuede him from his strong faith in the validity of his arguement.

  43. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy June 23, 2010 at 8:57 pm #

    yguy: What would [citing someone other than yguy who agrees with you] prove?

    It might be useful for ruling out a diagnosis of delusional. http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/03/is-ocd-a-delusion/

  44. avatar
    Kevin Bellas June 23, 2010 at 9:06 pm #

    Rickey: Thanks to Black Lion, we can keep up to date on the Past & EFail without actually having to go there. For some time I’ve been curious about Sharon Rondeau, and I have discovered who she is. She lives in Connecticut and apparently is a professional harpist. On her website she lists her full name as “Sharon Hanjian Rondeau,” which is curious because Wikipedia says that “Hanjian” is a pejorative Chinese word for “race traitor.” http://www.harpinmotion.com/This clearly is the Sharon Rondeau of Past & EFail infamy. Her Facebook page includes a photo of her at the harp, and as you can see her interests include a wide array of right-wing organizations. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1501689967&ref=tsAt “Patriots for America” she lists her home town as Stafford Springs, CT.http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/profile/SharonRondeauThe editorial address for the Post & EFail is a P.O. Box in Stafford Springs.

    That’s also the home state for the nutjob called The Real BobAnthony aka Robert Porrazzo.

  45. avatar
    Black Lion June 23, 2010 at 9:28 pm #

    Rickey: Thanks to Black Lion, we can keep up to date on the Past & EFail without actually having to go there. For some time I’ve been curious about Sharon Rondeau, and I have discovered who she is. She lives in Connecticut and apparently is a professional harpist. On her website she lists her full name as “Sharon Hanjian Rondeau,” which is curious because Wikipedia says that “Hanjian” is a pejorative Chinese word for “race traitor.” http://www.harpinmotion.com/This clearly is the Sharon Rondeau of Past & EFail infamy. Her Facebook page includes a photo of her at the harp, and as you can see her interests include a wide array of right-wing organizations. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1501689967&ref=tsAt “Patriots for America” she lists her home town as Stafford Springs, CT.http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/profile/SharonRondeauThe editorial address for the Post & EFail is a P.O. Box in Stafford Springs.

    Rickey, good research. I was wondering about her. She is way more over the top that our buddy John Charlton was. I actually find it difficult to read the trash at the Post and Fail but I feel that we need to be informed on how crazy and deluded the posters and writers are over there at birther central. They also make sure to have their readers push the donate button…

  46. avatar
    yguy June 23, 2010 at 9:41 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    It might be useful for ruling out a diagnosis of delusional.

    This observation seems passing strange coming from someone who has apparently been on record since 5/25/10 as agreeing with my interpretation of HRS §338-13(a).

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    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) June 23, 2010 at 9:48 pm #

    yguy:
    This observation seems passing strange coming from someone who has apparently been on record since 5/25/10 as agreeing with my interpretation of HRS §338-13(a).

    Since when has anyone agreed with your interpretation of anything?

  48. avatar
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) June 23, 2010 at 9:49 pm #

    Rickey: Thanks to Black Lion, we can keep up to date on the Past & EFail without actually having to go there. For some time I’ve been curious about Sharon Rondeau, and I have discovered who she is. She lives in Connecticut and apparently is a professional harpist. On her website she lists her full name as “Sharon Hanjian Rondeau,” which is curious because Wikipedia says that “Hanjian” is a pejorative Chinese word for “race traitor.”
    http://www.harpinmotion.com/This clearly is the Sharon Rondeau of Past & EFail infamy. Her Facebook page includes a photo of her at the harp, and as you can see her interests include a wide array of right-wingorganizations.
    http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1501689967&ref=tsAt “Patriots for America” she lists her home town as Stafford Springs, CT.http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/profile/SharonRondeauThe editorial address for the Post & EFail is a P.O. Box in Stafford Springs.

    Rickey please don’t remind me that there are nutjobs in my state of residence its bad enough Lieberman is my senator

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    Ellid June 23, 2010 at 10:51 pm #

    Black Lion:
    Rickey, good research.I was wondering about her.She is way more over the top that our buddy John Charlton was.I actually find it difficult to read the trash at the Post and Fail but I feel that we need to be informed on how crazy and deluded the posters and writers are over there at birther central.They also make sure to have their readers push the donate button…

    Oh SNAP. Stafford Springs is just over the state line from Longmeadow, where I go to church.

    *face palm*

    What a maroon, as they say.

  50. avatar
    Ellid June 23, 2010 at 10:57 pm #

    Okay, not quite by Longmeadow, but close. Either way, this woman is INSANE.

    I pity the other musicians in the New Britain Symphony. Dealing with her must be quite horrid.

  51. avatar
    misha June 23, 2010 at 11:12 pm #

    Ellid: I pity the other musicians in the New Britain Symphony. Dealing with her must be quite horrid.

    You mean the harp is not soothing?

  52. avatar
    misha June 23, 2010 at 11:14 pm #

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross): Rickey please don’t remind me that there are nutjobs in my state of residence its bad enough Lieberman is my senator

    Lamont will trounce that turncoat next time; it won’t be a 3-way race.

  53. avatar
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) June 23, 2010 at 11:18 pm #

    misha:
    Lamont will trounce that turncoat next time; it won’t be a 3-way race.

    I dont know Misha. I think Lamont is running for governor this time around and he looks like the hands on favorite. That is if Dan Malloy doesn’t run. He was a great mayor

  54. avatar
    yguy June 23, 2010 at 11:21 pm #

    Mike:
    This crap again?I refer you to the text of the Act, as follows, with my emphasis:the department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof.

    IOW, if Obama wants a copy of all the contents of his original BC, he can have it. Right?

    And it gets worse for you, yguy –

    Does it, now? 8)

    the following clause really must hurt your feefees: (b)Copies of the contents of any certificate on file in the department, certified by the department shall be considered for all purposes the same as the original, subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18.

    And just why would that hurt my “feefees”, whatever they are?

    And then there’s clause c: (c)Copies may be made by photography, dry copy reproduction, typing, computer printout or other process approved by the director of health.

    Presumably this is your way of saying the DoH can scrawl “Obama wuz born in Hawaii so STFU” on a certificate blank, have the registrar sign it and seal it and so forth, and call it a certified copy; and to be sure, had Obama requested one and been presented with such a “copy”, the onus would have been on the DoH to justify itself. Things being what they are, we’re left with Captain Transparency looking, as he so often does, like he’s hiding something.

    How’s it taste, yguy?Is that crow you’re chowing down just as tasty as can be?It better be, because you’re going to be eating a lot of it.

    Honess injun, I’m trying hard to feel embarrassed and defeated…but it just ain’t happenin’.

    Maybe da y-man’s just too dumb to feel pain, huh? 8)

  55. avatar
    G June 24, 2010 at 1:55 am #

    yguy: Maybe da y-man’s just too dumb to feel pain, huh? 8)

    That has been quite evident for awhile now.

  56. avatar
    ellid June 24, 2010 at 7:42 am #

    misha:
    You mean the harp is not soothing?

    Not if she brings the Pest & Efail to rehearsal with her….