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Phil Berg anticipates Obama quitting soon

In an email to supporters, and on his web site, crusading birther attorney Philip J. Berg says that Michelle Obama’s vacation in Spain is a signal of the end. He wrote:

Michelle Obama Celebrated, for one last time, in Spain with her daughter and others as she knows that her husband, Obama/Soetoro’s, time as President is coming to an end as he is forced to quit as he will admit he was born in Africa and adopted/acknowledged in Indonesia and therefore, is not Constitutionally eligible to be President.

This pretty much clinches my opinion that Phil Berg is consumed with an anti-Obama obsession, and has lost touch with reality.

32 Responses to Phil Berg anticipates Obama quitting soon

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    dp August 12, 2010 at 9:02 pm #

    What, exactly, does it mean to be “acknowledged in Indonesia?”

    Does the whole country have to do it, or is the guy stamping your passport good enough?

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    Sef August 12, 2010 at 9:21 pm #

    Is it Jan. 2017 already? How time flies!

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    Majority Will August 12, 2010 at 9:25 pm #

    dp: What, exactly, does it mean to be “acknowledged in Indonesia?”Does the whole country have to do it, or is the guy stamping your passport good enough?

    I stopped trying to make sense of Berg (and Taitz and Apuzzo) a long time ago.

    They may be unconsciously racing to see who will be forcibly removed by law from society first.

    It will be a reality show on Fox this fall.

    Big Bother: The Birther Attorneys is possible for a working title as is, When Birther Attorneys Attack Animals Who Attack Magicians. Robert Gibbs had no comment but Les Kinsolving is digging deeper.

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    Patrick McKinnion August 12, 2010 at 9:27 pm #

    Berg has fallen into the birther rut of rocking back and forth and mumbling “…..any day now. He’ll be arrested and out of office any day now. Any day now. He’ll be arrested and…..”

    Seriously, we’ve heard claims like this for two years now. The past incarnation of “Obamacrimes” was full of people who were convinced that Obama wouldn’t be inaugurated, that he would be arrested the second he took office, etc.

    Didn’t work out for them, did it?

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    misha August 12, 2010 at 9:31 pm #

    I am waiting for Berg’s or Orly’s public breakdown.

    Popcorn.

  6. avatar
    J. Edward Tremlett August 12, 2010 at 9:57 pm #

    Reality is the only word in the language that should always be written in quotes 😉

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    Majority Will August 12, 2010 at 10:11 pm #

    J. Edward Tremlett: Reality is the only word in the language that should always be written in quotes

    Speaking of quotes, one of the funniest lines ever from Steven Wright. He wished that his first word had been, “quote,” so that his last word could be “unquote.”

  8. avatar
    BatGuano August 12, 2010 at 10:16 pm #

    ” he will be out in 30 days.”

    – doc taitz, esq.

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    FUTTHESHUCKUP August 12, 2010 at 10:30 pm #

    BatGuano: ” he will be out in 30 days.”- doc taitz, esq.

    Yes, she said that on September 12, 2009. 🙂

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    Dave August 12, 2010 at 10:33 pm #

    Let’s not forget this important part.

    When Obama/Soetoro steps down, all of the appointments and programs including ObamaCare will end because all of them are ‘voidable’.

    Does ‘voidable’ mean they can be pooped out? I’m a little unclear on these legal terms.

    At least he restrained himself from bringing up the Special Election called for in the top-secret birther-eyes-only section of the Constitution.

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    FUTTHESHUCKUP August 12, 2010 at 10:36 pm #

    Patrick McKinnion: Berg has fallen into the birther rut of rocking back and forth and mumbling “…..any day now. He’ll be arrested and out of office any day now.Any day now. He’ll be arrested and…..”Seriously, we’ve heard claims like this for two years now. The past incarnation of “Obamacrimes” was full of people who were convinced that Obama wouldn’t be inaugurated, that he would be arrested the second he took office, etc.Didn’t work out for them, did it?

    Actually, I post the following of a Faux News forum daily so that they don’t forget.

    {{{ UPDATE }}} DAY 334 SINCE TAITZ SAID OBAMA WOULD BE OUT OF OFFICE IN 30 DAYS

    FUTTHESHUCKUP@
    Member

    801 days since birther buffoonsâ„¢ said he wouldn’t get the nomination because he’s not a citizen

    648 days since birther buffoonsâ„¢ said he wouldn’t be elected because he’s not a citizen

    669 days since birther buffoonsâ„¢ said he wouldn’t be sworn in because he’s not a citizen

    334 days since birther buffoonâ„¢ Taitz said Obama would be out of office in 30 days because he’s not a citizen

    80 failed birther buffoonâ„¢ frivolous lawsuits tossed out of court

    9 cases denied by the Supreme Court

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    Dave August 12, 2010 at 11:07 pm #

    Berg also mentions his march on Washington, which is currently scheduled for Octoberish, which presumably will be the event that triggers the President’s resignation. This reminded me that there seem to be an awful lot of wingnut marches on Washington coming up. So I attempted to make a list.

    Aug 27/28: things organized by Dick Armey/Beck/Palin

    Sep 6-9: something organized by Dr Kate

    Sep 12: something else organized by Dick Armey

    Octoberish: Berg

    The organized-bys are rough approximations, I’m really not sure. Seems to me they would make a bigger impression if they did all this stuff on one weekend, but what do I know, I’m just an Obot. It looks like we’ll have plenty of occasions where tens of thousand will magically be reported as millions. Well, except for Dr. Kate and Berg, where dozens will be reported as millions.

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    AnotherBird August 12, 2010 at 11:34 pm #

    Berg lost touch with reality when he typed the first letter. The fact that Berg is also a truther is hard not to believe that he made the same prediction about Bush in 2002/2003. Berg should just quit the prediction racket.

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    Catbit August 13, 2010 at 1:07 am #

    BatGuano: ” he will be out in 30 days.”- doc taitz, esq.

    Yes, but she did not say 30 CONSECUTIVE days….

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    Keith August 13, 2010 at 2:06 am #

    Dave: The organized-bys are rough approximations

    Maybe ‘organized by Murdoch’ would be a useful shorthand?

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    Lupin August 13, 2010 at 2:51 am #

    The use of “acknowledged” is odd because I can’t think of any even remotely legal context in which it would be used.

    But then you seem to have a lot of people (in America) who operate under what I call the Green Lantern principle: If you will it strong enough, it will be so.

    I recommend reading this article as another brick in the giant wall of looniness that is (some of) your citizenry’s refusal to move into the 21st century.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100812/ap_on_re_us/us_sovereign_citizens

    Actually, make that the 20th century. They’re still in the 1860s.

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    Keith August 13, 2010 at 9:13 am #

    Lupin: Actually, make that the 20th century. They’re still in the 1860s.

    Your are still off by almost 100 years. They want to return to the “Articles of Confederation”. (1777 to 1789).

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    richCares August 13, 2010 at 10:39 am #

    No, Berg is not crazy, he is saying what his pay pal pushers want to hear. So again, he is not crazy, nor is he out of touch with reality, he is a scam artist!

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    ASK Esq August 13, 2010 at 12:36 pm #

    As we’ve noticed, with birthers, there’s always something just around the corner. If it isn’t a judge about to order discovery, its Obama about to resign or be arrested. When a case egts thrown out, it doesn’t matter because the NEXT case is going to be the one that finally wins it for them.

    All they’re asking is that everyone claps their hands and says “I do believe in fairy tales” over and over.

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    Majority Will August 13, 2010 at 12:42 pm #

    richCares: No, Berg is not crazy, he is saying what his pay pal pushers want to hear. So again, he is not crazy, nor is he out of touch with reality, he is a scam artist!

    I disagree. Taitz and Berg are most likely certifiably insane as well as narcissists.

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    Sef August 13, 2010 at 12:58 pm #

    Majority Will:
    I disagree. Taitz and Berg are most likely certifiably insane as well as narcissists.

    I believe the thing that is currently driving Berg & Mario (I don’t know what drives Orly) is that they have been spouting all these made-up off-the-wall theories for so long & they cannot afford to give one inch. By Einstein’s definition this would be insanity.

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    AnotherBird August 13, 2010 at 1:05 pm #

    Sef: I don’t know what drives Orly

    Orly Taitz loves to quote that she grew up in a communist country, and heard all the “stories.” It could be because she loves the attention. Who knows, but Berg has her beat on the conspiracy stuff.

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    Ellid August 13, 2010 at 1:26 pm #

    Keith:
    Your are still off by almost 100 years. They want to return to the “Articles of Confederation”. (1777 to 1789).

    And though he doesn’t post here (probably because he’d last about five minutes), the odious Borderraven surfaced spouting the same nonsense on a Florida newspaper web site a couple of days ago…and yet he and so many other teabaggers and Sovereign Citizens seem to have no problem drawing military pensions, using veterans’ hospitals, and enjoying their Social Security and Medicare benefits at the same time that they’re screaming about the evil, evil government.

    It really makes my head hurt.

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    Rickey August 13, 2010 at 1:59 pm #

    Ellid:
    And though he doesn’t post here (probably because he’d last about five minutes), the odious Borderraven surfaced spouting the same nonsense on a Florida newspaper web site a couple of days ago…and yet he and so many other teabaggers and Sovereign Citizens seem to have no problem drawing military pensions, using veterans’ hospitals, and enjoying their Social Security and Medicare benefits at the same time that they’re screaming about the evil, evil government.It really makes my head hurt.

    That reminds me of a discussion I was having with some retired military officers on a Compuserve forum before the 2000 election. They were going on about how they wanted to privatize Social Security, so I asked them how they felt about privatizing their military pensions. They went apoplectic, accusing me of suggesting that they weren’t entitled to their pensions, etc.

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    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) August 13, 2010 at 3:53 pm #

    Rickey: That reminds me of a discussion I was having with some retired military officers on a Compuserve forum before the 2000 election. They were going on about how they wanted to privatize Social Security, so I asked them how they felt about privatizing their military pensions. They went apoplectic, accusing me of suggesting that they weren’t entitled to their pensions, etc.

    Yeah I notice certain people misunderstand a lot. When people were claiming Obama was dithering on Afghanistan because he made a measured choice. I questioned their logic and asked why didn’t they feel the same when Bush Jr. ignored Afghanistan for the last few years. Where was their complaining when General Kiernan was asking for more troops. The person was saying stuff like “Troops are dying while Obama dithers.” I’m like stop using the troops as a political talking point when you can’t show consistency. He then tried to make it like I was attacking his service. I kept pointing out to him that his service doesn’t give him the right to use dead soldiers to smear Obama while he ignored everything during Bush’s term

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    Paul Pieniezny August 13, 2010 at 6:53 pm #

    Lupin: The use of “acknowledged” is odd because I can’t think of any even remotely legal context in which it would be used.

    I think it is not the first time Phil used that word. We’ve discussed it at Politijab, I remember. Phil seems to be using that word as a translation of German “erkennen”. Which is a legal term, actually: it is when the father of a child born out of wedlock “acknowledges” that child as his own.
    http://www.pratique.fr/reconnaissance-enfant-naturel.html
    I know it is stupid, because Barack had a father already and was not called Dunham, but Phil thinks Obama’s stepfather got away with it without necessarily having to fully adopt Obama. That was because it is so easy to prove that Obama Junior could not have been legally adopted in Indonesia. We now know Obama was not adopted in Hawaii either, so the adoption story is history, but Berg like the good Birfer Trufer he is, keeps bringing it up.

    I suppose Berg thinks Lolo just told Barack three times “You are my Islamic Sharia Muslim son.” and behold, Barack was now Barry Soetoro. With total loss of any US citizenship of course. Which he never had anyway since he was born in Islamic Sharia Muslim Mombasa.

    Of course, nothing the “parents” do can cause a minor who was born in the USA to lose his/her American citizenship. Nice try, but epic fail. Again.

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    Majority Will August 13, 2010 at 6:59 pm #

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross):
    I kept pointing out to him that his service doesn’t give him the right to use dead soldiers to smear Obama while he ignored everything during Bush’s term

    Hear, hear!

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    Dr. Conspiracy August 13, 2010 at 7:04 pm #

    Paul Pieniezny: I think it is not the first time Phil used that word. We’ve discussed it at Politijab, I remember. Phil seems to be using that word as a translation of German “erkennen”. Which is a legal term, actually: it is when the father of a child born out of wedlock “acknowledges” that child as his own.

    I was going to say that we work with this all the time down at the birth certificate factory. You wouldn’t believe how many children are born out of wedlock these days (over half in some jurisdictions). When the couple gets married there is a marital child acknowledgment. States do these by the hundreds of thousands. So the term is quite common, but it’s never used properly in the sense of someone acknowledging a child that is not his biological offspring.

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    Rickey August 13, 2010 at 8:47 pm #

    Paul Pieniezny:
    I suppose Berg thinks Lolo just told Barack three times “You are my Islamic Sharia Muslim son.” and behold, Barack was now Barry Soetoro. With total loss of any US citizenship of course. Which he never had anyway since he was born in Islamic Sharia Muslim Mombasa.Of course, nothing the “parents” do can cause a minor who was born in the USA to lose his/her American citizenship. Nice try, but epic fail. Again.

    Berg and other birthers keep making the argument that there is no evidence that Obama ever had his name legally changed back to Barack Hussein Obama from “Barry Soetoro” when he moved back to Hawaii from Indonesia, yet they are oblivious to the fact that there is no evidence that he ever had his name legally changed from Barack Hussein Obama to Barry Soetoro.

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    tes August 16, 2010 at 3:47 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I was going to say that we work with this all the time down at the birth certificate factory. You wouldn’t believe how many children are born out of wedlock these days (over half in some jurisdictions). When the couple gets married there is a marital child acknowledgment. States do these by the hundreds of thousands. So the term is quite common, but it’s never used properly in the sense of someone acknowledging a child that is not his biological offspring.

    —————
    That’s exactly what Berg is referring to. According to a summary of Indonesian Citizenship Law, contained in an Indonesian Law Digest available on Lexis — and posted by Berg (or his assistants? I can’t recall who actually posted it — it was in response to PatGund’s debunking), a child who is born out of wedlock, but thereafter “acknowledged” by his Indonesian father will be considered an Indonesian citizen.

    Ignoring the whole “out of wedlock” element of the law (as described in the secondary source/law digest they published), Berg claimed that because Soetoro was listed as Obama’s father on the Indonesian school record, he had “acknowledged” Obama as his son.

    In other words, like the whole Pakistani Travel Ban, Berg just made this stuff up …. even though it’s easily and completely refutable. In THIS case, it’s unequivocally refuted by the very same document upon which Berg relies to make the argument.

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    tes August 16, 2010 at 3:50 pm #

    Here it is: Indonesian Law Digest 4.02 (Citizenship):
    “State citizens of Indonesia include: ….. (viii) children who are born outside of legal marriage from foreign state citizen mother who are acknowledged by father who is Indonesian State citizen as his children and that acknowledgment is made prior to children reaching 18 years of age or prior to marriage….

    Indonesian State citizen children who are born outside of legal marriage, who have not yet reached age of 18 years, who have not yet married and who are legally acknowledged by father who has foreign citizenship continue to be ac-knowledged as Indonesian State citizens.”

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    Dr. Conspiracy August 16, 2010 at 6:49 pm #

    tes: Ignoring the whole “out of wedlock” element of the law (as described in the secondary source/law digest they published), Berg claimed that because Soetoro was listed as Obama’s father on the Indonesian school record, he had “acknowledged” Obama as his son.

    The “acknowledgment” thing was put forward by Berg in Hollister v. Soetoro and debunked here in February of 2009. I’m all for recycling but…