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Association for crackpot lawyers?

I’m still researching this, but the American Free Press, and other anti-Obama web sites have mentioned the “U.S. Bar Association.” This group is offering advice to the defense team of Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, the Army doctor who refused to deploy citing doubts about whether Barack Obama was born. The Post & Email blog provides a link to the group. The USBA domain was registered in 2006 by a Barbara Ketay of Florida.

While various web sites say that the USBA is giving “written” advice to the Lakin defense, there is nothing about Lakin or Barack Obama for that matter on the organization’s web site.

Some key ideas of the USBA include repeal of the Income Tax, persons who have not graduated from an accredited law school being allowed to sit for the bar exam, and that the United States is a “Christian nation”. (Pro gun, anti abortion–you get the drift.) I was unable to find any reference that Ketay is a lawyer. Their Executive Director, Rick Knox, has a name similar to several lawyers, although none in West Virginia, the location of the organizations mailing address.

If anyone knows of a real lawyer who is a member of this group, please respond in comments.

21 Responses to Association for crackpot lawyers?

  1. avatar
    Rickey September 26, 2010 at 9:47 pm #

    Barbara Ketay’s resume is here:

    http://www.restoringamericanetwork.net/barbara_ketay_resume.html

    She claims that she attended “Chase Law School” in Cincinnati for 2 1/2 years. I assume that she means Salmon P. Chase College of Law, which is actually in Kentucky, a few miles from Cincinnati. She also took a correspondence course at “Blackstone School of Law,” but it’s unclear when she took the course and if she ever completed it. The school is now called Blackstone Career Institute and offers courses for legal assistants and paralegals.

    It’s clear that she is not an attorney. Her resume also misspells LexisNexis as “Lexus-Nexus.”

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    richCares September 26, 2010 at 10:06 pm #

    a birhter that lies, how shocking!

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    aarrgghh September 26, 2010 at 10:33 pm #

    i hear they’re still waiting on lucas smith to put the finishing touches on their degrees.

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    ellid September 27, 2010 at 7:27 am #

    I found her boast to have read the law code similar to the people who claim to have read the entire Bible and then attempt to support their own crank theories with out of context quotes.

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    katahdin September 27, 2010 at 8:11 am #

    “doubts about whether Barack Obama was born”

    As far as I know not even the birthers are questioning whether President Obama was born. But that may not be far off.

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    AnotherBird September 27, 2010 at 9:11 am #

    U.S. Bar Association a snazzy name to confuse birthers to make them believe that it is as significant as the American Bar Association. With the likes of Taitz, Berg, and Jensen the USBA should have lawyers involved with it.

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    Obsolete September 27, 2010 at 10:32 am #

    Birthers and tea-Baggers love to give themselves fake degrees and create their own organizations to accreditate themselves- see Rev. Manning and Rand Paul.

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    Loren September 27, 2010 at 11:10 am #

    Here are two attorneys whose webprofiles say they’re members of the United States Bar Association:

    http://www.jenniferpagelaw.com/Attorneys/Jennifer-B-Page.shtml

    http://andersonhelgen.com/henry.html

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    Tarrant September 27, 2010 at 11:45 am #

    This is something that, as a resident of DC, drives me crazy. The number of similarly-named organizations (usually with a conservative, especially religious, bent) popping up is making it really difficult for an average person to figure out what is what (which, of course, is their intent).

    The American Psychological Association (APA) doesn’t consider homosexuality a disease anymore and considers “conversion therapy” harmful? Create your own group with 0.01% of the people and start making your own claims.

    The American Bar Association doesn’t support made-up birther “rules” on standing and jurisprudence? Create the US Bar Association, and start offering “legal opinions” that say the opposite.

    The American Academy of Pediatrics does a decade-long study claiming children aren’t harmed by the existence of gay people? Create the “American College of Pediatricians”, with a few token members and start claiming they are, evidence be damned.

    This follows with Dr. C’s “information porn” line from a week ago. The goal isn’t to show any evidence or make any real argument but, much as with “Evolution vs. Intelligent Design” and the Discovery Institute (hey, sounds scientific) with its “Teach the Controversy” campaign to make it seem to the layperson that there is actual disagreement out there between leading doctors, lawyers, scientists, etc. and that therefore both points of view should, for now, be given equal credence.

    Sadly, such campaigns have generally been highly successful because the average person doesn’t have the time to look at organizations and see which one of many similarly-named organizations saying completely opposite things has the tens or hundreds of thousands of members and which has dozens, which has large double-blind studies spanning years and which claims decades-old (and often widely discredited) research as conventional, which conducts strict peer-review and which accepts anyone who simply agrees on some talking points.

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    Black Lion September 27, 2010 at 11:46 am #

    Speaking of cranks, now we have crank birther filmakers….From the Post and Fail…I find it interesting who he declares are “false gods”….Also did he miss any of the birther false talking points or fictional proof? It looks like he hit them all…And as with all of the other birthers embellishes his title and/or background to make himself sound more important than he really is….

    “Brent Bateman is a former reporter and now a filmmaker working on the release of a movie about Obama’s fraud and ineligibility. He presently has a producer for the movie, Quad City Pictures, and plans have been made for its release in the spring of 2011. Bateman’s Quad City website includes a section for Breaking News, an online store where “Fraud gear” can be purchased, and the movie trailer itself.”

    ……………

    “Within his bio, Brent asserts:

    In this age of American Idol and false gods such as Oprah Winfrey, LaBron James, and Kobe Bryant, America has become a side show of false news, media lies, and ILLEGAL propaganda by the treasonous regime known as the Obama administration, and it’s [sic] bought-and-paid-for step child, the American Media.

    The Elite of America have completely turned their backs on the middle class and the poor, and Barack and Michelle Obama have single handedly pushed back race relations in America more than a hundred years.”

    ……….

    MR. BATEMAN: This is the first one; we titled it “Fraud” because it’s not just about the Obama cult; it’s really about him and the government and everybody who was complicit in the cover-up of getting someone elected who’s not legally able to hold office. Everybody knows that the Constitution states that you must be “natural born” to be president. Barack Obama could never be a natural born Citizen. He could be a naturalized or native born Citizen, but he could never be a natural born Citizen. So they’re eroding the Constitution. As soon as he got into office, the first day, he signed executive order #13489 which sealed all of his records and all records of past presidents, which means that Bush is on in this regime takeover as well. It has excluded the Bush and Cheney administration for being prosecuted for the 9/11 matter. So it gets even deeper. That was basically his free ticket to “My records don’t exist.”

    Obama was never a professor of law at the University of Illinois in Chicago where they said he was. He was a substitute professor; he never actually sat in on the class with students and instructed. The Board of Governors at the college demanded, because there was a payoff, that he be put in that position just for show. In reality, there was no experience; he never got in front of students; he never taught classes. But I will say this, too: I don’t know if you know anything about Factcheck.org and how they debunked the whole Larry Sinclair story and the birth certificate and everything.

    MR. BATEMAN: Factcheck.org is owned by the Annenberg Society, which gave $150,000,000 in the ’90s as grant money: $50,000,000 a year for three years. Barack Obama and Bill Ayers sat on the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. That’s who got the money, and he was the financier, which means he directed where the money went. Instead of taking the $150,000,000 which the Chicago Annenberg Foundation gave them to revolutionize the schools, they stole it and gave it to all their friends in contracting positions, and they even gave $3,000,000 away. McCain alluded to this during one of the campaign debates. They found that it cost $3,000,000 for some projector system at a school in Chicago, and it probably cost them a couple thousand dollars and they stole $2,800,000 and somebody put that in his pocket. So they stole all this money, and Obama and Bill Ayers sat on the board of this together. Obama launched his political career from Bill Ayers’s living room.

    MRS. RONDEAU: I remember wondering how you got on Fox News with a sign like that. I saw it on my own TV!

    You had said you were a reporter. Can you tell me about that?

    MR. BATEMAN: I went to school for broadcasting and graduated from Western Illinois University in December 1991, coming out with a B.A. in Broadcasting. I wanted to be a TV reporter right out of school. I had been an anchor at the TV station at college for a couple of years, and I had also been a reporter. So I already knew the game, and I was pretty good at it. However, nobody would hire me as a reporter, just as a producer, and I knew once you go behind the camera, it’s very difficult to get in front of it, especially on TV news.

    So I ended up spending about seven and one-half years in the casino business. In 1991, Iowa reestablished riverboat casinos, and I’m from one of the cities in Illinois and Iowa that reestablished riverboat gambling.

    But not all of the birthers are down with our filmaker….

    Bob1943 says:
    Monday, September 27, 2010 at 8:11 AM
    Thanks Jean,

    I also viewed the “teasor trailer” and had the same “oh no!” feeling you describe. If the movie is going to link 9-11 conspiracy theorist with those who just want article 2 section 1 of the Constitition upheld, (linking the two is something the Obama regime has long been trying to do), then the filmmaker is either an Obot himself, or he is employed by the Obots.

    Maybe he will post a clarification here…….

    And then we have the crazy Bob Laity…

    Robert Laity says:
    Monday, September 27, 2010 at 12:15 AM
    Faux Presidents do not enjoy the protocol protections afforded to them by the Impeachment process. These folks must be ARRESTED and tried in a Court,not the Senate.In Obama’s case he must be tried in the US District Court for the US District of DC.

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/09/26/filmmaker-to-release-movie-about-obamas-fraud-and-ineligibility/

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    Rickey September 27, 2010 at 12:59 pm #

    Brent Bateman also sees dead people. From his MySpace profile:

    “I’ve always been intrigued by the after life, so it’s not a surprise that I really do see dead people, and I have the ability to embrace the spirit world.”

    Read more: http://www.myspace.com/buddythecookie#ixzz10kXxrzNL

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    Obsolete September 27, 2010 at 5:48 pm #

    Strange that he has problems with Obama, Oprah Winfrey, LaBron James, and Kobe Bryant. I wonder what all four might have in common besides wealth & fame?

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) September 27, 2010 at 7:13 pm #

    Obsolete: Strange that he has problems with Obama, Oprah Winfrey, LaBron James, and Kobe Bryant.I wonder what all four might have in common besides wealth & fame?

    They all have the letter O in their names?

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    Black Lion September 27, 2010 at 9:43 pm #

    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross): They all have the letter O in their names?

    Hmmnnn….I think I will go with “they are all people of color for $100 Alex”…

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    Lupin September 28, 2010 at 3:17 am #

    What we’re seeing here is a perverse and unintended consequence of your legitimate bar associations’ inability or unwillingness to police their own profession.

    If as I have often said, the ABA and the State Bars had taken vigorous steps against Taitz, Apuzzo, Donofrio et al — and this sham of an association — as well as fraudulent schools, etc. you wouldn’t have a problem.

    What’s next? An American Surgical Association made up of quacks with medical diplomas from mills in the Caribbean?

    This also evokes the cuts in the budgets, or corruption, of food inspectors, oil platform inspectors, etc, etc. The same is likely true of your airplane inspections, bridges, etc. Airplane pilots are underpaid and undertrained; so are train mechanics; the recent BP / Gulf of Mexico disaster exposed a slew of unethical and incompetent practices, etc. etc.

    A society that refuses to police itself surrenders to the the laws of entropy and falls apart at the edged or the stress points. I see this as part of a pattern in American society, and not an isolated incident.

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    JoZeppy September 28, 2010 at 4:41 pm #

    Lupin: What we’re seeing here is a perverse and unintended consequence of your legitimate bar associations’ inability or unwillingness to police their own profession.If as I have often said, the ABA and the State Bars had taken vigorous steps against Taitz, Apuzzo, Donofrio et al — and this sham of an association — as well as fraudulent schools, etc. you wouldn’t have a problem.What’s next? An American Surgical Association made up of quacks with medical diplomas from mills in the Caribbean? This also evokes the cuts in the budgets, or corruption, of food inspectors, oil platform inspectors, etc, etc. The same is likely true of your airplane inspections, bridges, etc. Airplane pilots are underpaid and undertrained; so are train mechanics; the recent BP / Gulf of Mexico disaster exposed a slew of unethical and incompetent practices, etc. etc.A society that refuses to police itself surrenders to the the laws of entropy and falls apart at the edged or the stress points. I see this as part of a pattern in American society, and not an isolated incident.

    The bar associations have good reason to be rather open about allowing attorneys to argue fringe theories. They sometimes change the law (would Plessy have even been overturned otherwise?). I do think birthers are pushing the envelope with their revisionist history, and at this point they should probably be laying low until the election when perhaps they can somehow have a better argument for standing. But again, I don’t think the bar associations should get in the habit of disbarring members for novel theories. The courts are strong enough to sort out the garbage. And for the most part, real lawyers do know the limits (you’ll notice we haven’t heard too much from Mario since his last judicial smack down).

    As for Orly, that all falls in the lap of the California Bar Association. The ABA does accredit law schools, and in most states, you can’t sit for the bar if you didn’t attend an ABA accredited school. California, however, is one of the exceptions. For some reason, they pretty much let anyone open a “law school” and anyone can sit for the bar exam. Once in a while, someone like Orly sneaks by. Even more troubling is the California Bar’s foot dragging in disbarring her (as well as other judges not slapping her with more sanctions for frivolous filings). There is no reason this person should still have a license to practice.

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    Lupin September 29, 2010 at 3:42 am #

    JoZeppy: The bar associations have good reason to be rather open about allowing attorneys to argue fringe theories. They sometimes change the law (would Plessy have even been overturned otherwise?). I do think birthers are pushing the envelope with their revisionist history, and at this point they should probably be laying low until the election when perhaps they can somehow have a better argument for standing. But again, I don’t think the bar associations should get in the habit of disbarring members for novel theories. The courts are strong enough to sort out the garbage. And for the most part, real lawyers do know the limits (you’ll notice we haven’t heard too much from Mario since his last judicial smack down).

    As for Orly, that all falls in the lap of the California Bar Association. The ABA does accredit law schools, and in most states, you can’t sit for the bar if you didn’t attend an ABA accredited school. California, however, is one of the exceptions. For some reason, they pretty much let anyone open a “law school” and anyone can sit for the bar exam. Once in a while, someone like Orly sneaks by. Even more troubling is the California Bar’s foot dragging in disbarring her (as well as other judges not slapping her with more sanctions for frivolous filings). There is no reason this person should still have a license to practice.

    I entirely agree with both your points. I might argue there is a difference between shall we say a Quixotic fight, and abusing the system. I don’t blame Mario for his appalling theories, I blame him for lying in his declarations.

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    JoZeppy September 29, 2010 at 10:57 am #

    Lupin: I entirely agree with both your points. I might argue there is a difference between shall we say a Quixotic fight, and abusing the system. I don’t blame Mario for his appalling theories, I blame him for lying in his declarations.

    As sanctionable as his “travel ban” statement should be, I feel it was just a small cernal of corn in the huge dung pile that was his complaint, that it just went by unnoticed on the path to dismissal. Orly, on the other hand, is wasting so much valuable Court time and resourses, and has a total disrepsect for the Courts, that I don’t see why the state of Californa has not disbared her. She is truely a disgrace to the legal profession.

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    Keith September 29, 2010 at 7:35 pm #

    Black Lion: Speaking of cranks, now we have crank birther filmakers…

    Speaking of crank filmmakers…

    Fake pimp tries to punk CNN… and fails

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    Dr. Conspiracy September 30, 2010 at 12:31 pm #

    ellid: I found her boast to have read the law code similar to the people who claim to have read the entire Bible and then attempt to support their own crank theories with out of context quotes.

    I have read the entire Bible at least 3 times and I assure you that I couldn’t pass a Theology quiz from any mainline seminary.

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    G October 1, 2010 at 3:43 pm #

    Lupin: A society that refuses to police itself surrenders to the the laws of entropy and falls apart at the edged or the stress points. I see this as part of a pattern in American society, and not an isolated incident.

    Agreed.