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New video on Obama’s parentage

Continuing the joke/bizarre theme for October, this YouTube video makes the claim that President Obama is the son of Stanley Dunham (Obama’s grandfather) and Zeituni Onyango (Barack Obama Sr.’s half sister). You can’t make this stuff up.

“Don’t drag my child into this,” Zeituni Onyango said in her first interview since she was granted asylum in May, apparently referring to Obama.

The New York Daily News

Onyango, now age 58, would have been about 9 years old when President Obama was born.

Video follows. H/t SE.

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50 Responses to New video on Obama’s parentage

  1. avatar
    Keith October 13, 2010 at 5:56 am #

    I’m guessing that the Obama campaign quote snippet had an introductory remark that indicated that he was repeating a story that someone told him?

    Something like “Joe Blogs told be about his father saying uh uh uh ‘My father served in WWII…

    Close relatives, especially Aunts, often call their nieces and nephews ‘my child’ especially when the actual parents are no longer around. They are sort of taking up a surrogate parent role.

    Nothing to see here folks. Move on.

  2. avatar
    Flipper October 13, 2010 at 7:27 am #

    In the orignial video, we don’t actually get to hear the *question* she responded to – the video cuts away, whether to save time or deliberately plant a birther seed. I suspect the latter.

    It’s simply assumed by the YT video maker that the unheard question (and therefore the answer) refers to President Obama.

    To me, a more likely explanation is that the interviewer asked her a question about one of her *own* children. I can’t find any info about her children, but they merit a brief reference in a Huffpo article describing her apartment as being:

    “adorned with photographs of her with Obama at the Illinois Statehouse, the president’s official portrait, his family, the inauguration, her children and African wildlife”.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/01/obama-aunt-zeituni-onyang_n_374965.html

  3. avatar
    Flipper October 13, 2010 at 7:50 am #

    I forgot to add the link for the interview this YT video was lifted from.

    Go forward to about 3.20

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHsUcmzTpSA&feature=related

  4. avatar
    DaveH October 13, 2010 at 9:27 am #

    As far as the ‘My father’ part – it’s hard to tell but it could have been edited and he actually used ‘My grand-father’. However, you can’t dismiss the fact that Obama lived with his grandparents and it is likely he considered his grand father his father and quite possibly thinks of him as ‘his father’.

    I know kids that were left with their grandparents to be raised and called them mom and dad.

    But there’s nothing like a deep dark conspiracy. Ohhhhhhhhh!!!!!

  5. avatar
    Whatever4 October 13, 2010 at 9:45 am #

    The original interview was on WBZ, a Boston station. http://wbztv.com/video/?id=92617@wbz.dayport.com

  6. avatar
    sponson October 13, 2010 at 11:07 am #

    GOP Congressional candidate calls for impeachment power in order to “force” Obama to show his birth certificate.

  7. avatar
    Jules October 13, 2010 at 11:24 am #

    sponson: GOP Congressional candidate calls for impeachment power in order to “force” Obama to show his birth certificate.

    In my capacity as a US citizen, I am dismayed at the fact that there is a strong chance that Michigan’s 7th district will be held by someone who is unwilling to acknowledge that Obama “resolved” the matter of the location of his birth some time ago.

    However, in my capacity as a Democrat, I feel slightly pleased by the fact that the Republican candidate has just reduced somewhat the chances that the GOP will win MI-7.

  8. avatar
    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) October 13, 2010 at 11:46 am #

    sponson: GOP Congressional candidate calls for impeachment power in order to “force” Obama to show his birth certificate.

    I love his “solution” though. To have ranking members of both parties and a justice to be shown it. So then once they get shown it the birthers still will make up a reason for not believing it

  9. avatar
    HellT October 13, 2010 at 12:36 pm #

    sponson: GOP Congressional candidate calls for impeachment power in order to “force” Obama to show his birth certificate.

    The New Republic has an article online titled “Scandal TBD: The Coming Impeachment of Barack Obama”. The first paragraph of the article:

    “Hear me now and believe me later: If Republicans win and maintain control of the House of Representatives, they are going to impeach President Obama. They won’t do it right away. And they won’t succeed in removing Obama. (You need 67 Senate votes.) But if Obama wins a second term, the House will vote to impeach him before he leaves office.”

    Because that’s how Republicans play the game. It has nothing to do with law; it has everything to do with politics. They don’t believe in compromising with their opponents, they believe in destroying them. The birther conspiracy crap has been a great way for them to stir up their base and get them convinced that there must be some justification for politically destroying Obama.

  10. avatar
    sfjeff October 13, 2010 at 1:22 pm #

    “Because that’s how Republicans play the game. It has nothing to do with law; it has everything to do with politics”

    I actually believe this is likely to happen. I also predict that if it does, the Democrats will do the same thing the next time they have a majority in the House and a Republican President.

    The impeachment process will become nothing more than another aspect of politics as usual- which is an insult to the Constitution and our country

  11. avatar
    Sean October 13, 2010 at 1:22 pm #

    Was this video a prank?

  12. avatar
    Ellid October 13, 2010 at 2:23 pm #

    sfjeff: “Because that’s how Republicans play the game. It has nothing to do with law; it has everything to do with politics”I actually believe this is likely to happen. I also predict that if it does, the Democrats will do the same thing the next time they have a majority in the House and a Republican President.
    The impeachment process will become nothing more than another aspect of politics as usual- which is an insult to the Constitution and our country

    I wonder if this all goes back to Richard Nixon being forced out of office? I’ve always suspected that the Republicans have longed to destroy a Democratic President the way they believe the Democrats destroyed Nixon. Carter was too clean so they didn’t really try, but losing the impeachment battle with Bill Clinton must have really stuck in the elephant’s craw….

  13. avatar
    Black Lion October 13, 2010 at 4:04 pm #

    At Newsmax, Palin joins fellow conservatives with false, inflammatory attacks on Obama
    October 12, 2010 6:31 pm ET — 40 Comments

    Sarah Palin used a webcast at the right-wing website Newsmax to use inflammatory language echoing that of fellow conservatives such as Glenn Beck and Newt Gingrich to attack President Obama and his policies. She also revived her long-debunked claim about “death panels” in the health care reform law.

    Palin claims someone is “pulling [Obama’s] strings,” warns of Iran “Armageddon”
    Palin smears Obama as “naïve,” claims “whomever it is who’s pulling his strings” won’t let him institute free-market principles. During Newsmax’s October 12 “Making America Great Again” webcast, Palin said that Obama’s policies “lean towards” being socialist, adding:

    It’s the free-market system that built America, that allowed us to be so prosperous and safe and generous, that will work. But he won’t apply those principles because I think he’s quite naïve. I think he’s stubborn. I think whomever it is who’s pulling his strings will not let — because the ideology involved in all of this will get in the way — they will not let him admit what we know from history, that those free-market principles will certainly work better than socialism.

    Palin: Nuclear Iran could lead to “Armageddon.” After describing Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as among “evil, evil dictators … evil men who would think that they are going to control America and make us fearful,” Palin said that “we have to show our steel spine and we have to tell them that, yes, military option will be on our table.” Palin added:

    We need to remind Russia that any assistance given to Ahmedinejad — given to Iran — we have to realize that at the end of the day, a nuclear weapon in that country’s hands is not just Israel’s problem or America’s problem, it is the world’s problem. It could lead to an Armageddon. It could lead to that World War III that could decimate so much of this planet.

    Palin: Sharia law will be “the downfall of America.” Palin said that “Americans will never stand for sharia law being the law of the land,” adding:

    Whether it be just affecting a segment of the population, a demographic, certainly not in its entirety all over our country, Americans will not stand for this because Americans are smart enough to know Sharia law, if that were to be adopted — allowed to govern in our country, it will be the downfall of America. And too many Americans are onto this already and are starting to rise up and send that message to our federal officials and say, no, we will not put up with any hint of Sharia law being any sort of law of the land.

    Palin: Obama “bows and kowtows and pokes our allies in the eye.” Later in the interview, Palin accused Obama of lacking “that humbleness where he can look back and see what has worked throughout history, what has failed, so that we can repeat the successes.” She also claimed that Obama “bows and kowtows and pokes our allies in the eye, which makes absolutely no sense.”

    http://mediamatters.org/research/201010120041

  14. avatar
    Majority Will October 13, 2010 at 4:17 pm #

    Black Lion: At Newsmax, Palin joins fellow conservatives with false, inflammatory attacks on Obama
    October 12, 2010 6:31 pm ET — 40 Comments
    Sarah Palin used a webcast at the right-wing website Newsmax to use inflammatory language echoing that of fellow conservatives such as Glenn Beck and Newt Gingrich to attack President Obama and his policies. She also revived her long-debunked claim about “death panels” in the health care reform law.Palin claims someone is “pulling [Obama’s] strings,” warns of Iran “Armageddon”
    Palin smears Obama as “naïve,” claims “whomever it is who’s pulling his strings” won’t let him institute free-market principles. During Newsmax’s October 12 “Making America Great Again” webcast, Palin said that Obama’s policies “lean towards” being socialist, adding:It’s the free-market system that built America, that allowed us to be so prosperous and safe and generous, that will work. But he won’t apply those principles because I think he’s quite naïve. I think he’s stubborn. I think whomever it is who’s pulling his strings will not let — because the ideology involved in all of this will get in the way — they will not let him admit what we know from history, that those free-market principles will certainly work better than socialism.Palin: Nuclear Iran could lead to “Armageddon.” After describing Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as among “evil, evil dictators … evil men who would think that they are going to control America and make us fearful,” Palin said that “we have to show our steel spine and we have to tell them that, yes, military option will be on our table.” Palin added:We need to remind Russia that any assistance given to Ahmedinejad — given to Iran — we have to realize that at the end of the day, a nuclear weapon in that country’s hands is not just Israel’s problem or America’s problem, it is the world’s problem. It could lead to an Armageddon. It could lead to that World War III that could decimate so much of this planet.Palin: Sharia law will be “the downfall of America.” Palin said that “Americans will never stand for sharia law being the law of the land,” adding:Whether it be just affecting a segment of the population, a demographic, certainly not in its entirety all over our country, Americans will not stand for this because Americans are smart enough to know Sharia law, if that were to be adopted — allowed to govern in our country, it will be the downfall of America. And too many Americans are onto this already and are starting to rise up and send that message to our federal officials and say, no, we will not put up with any hint of Sharia law being any sort of law of the land.Palin: Obama “bows and kowtows and pokes our allies in the eye.” Later in the interview, Palin accused Obama of lacking “that humbleness where he can look back and see what has worked throughout history, what has failed, so that we can repeat the successes.” She also claimed that Obama “bows and kowtows and pokes our allies in the eye, which makes absolutely no sense.”http://mediamatters.org/research/201010120041

    Fear mongering crap and hypocrisy. And not at all surprising. She’s not very bright.

    Socialism?

    “We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada. And I think now, isn’t that ironic?” –Sarah Palin, admitting that her family used to get treatment in Canada’s single-payer health care system, despite having demonized such government-run programs as socialized medicine that will lead to death-panel-like rationing, March 6, 2010

    “And Alaska — we’re set up, unlike other states in the union, where it’s collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs. … It’s to maximize benefits for Alaskans, not an individual company, not some multinational somewhere, but for Alaskans.” –Sarah Palin, explaining the windfall profits tax that she imposed on the oil industry in Alaska as a mechanism for ensuring that Alaskans “share in the wealth” generated by oil companies, New Yorker interview, Sept. 2008

  15. avatar
    SueDB October 13, 2010 at 5:20 pm #

    http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20101013/NEWS/101013011/Experts++Obama+is+a+distant+relative+of+Sarah+Palin++Rush+Limbaugh

    Guess who is related to our President. It doesn’t look like the stupidity gene as added until after the last common ancestor.

  16. avatar
    misha October 13, 2010 at 5:25 pm #

    Ellid: I wonder if this all goes back to Richard Nixon being forced out of office?

    Yes, it’s payback. They tried with Clinton, and they’ll do it to Obama – guaranteed.

  17. avatar
    katahdin October 13, 2010 at 5:55 pm #

    SueDB: http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20101013/NEWS/101013011/Experts++Obama+is+a+distant+relative+of+Sarah+Palin++Rush+LimbaughGuess who is related to our President. It doesn’t look like the stupidity gene as added until after the last common ancestor.

    Guess Sarah crawled out of the shallow end of the gene pool.

  18. avatar
    Black Lion October 13, 2010 at 10:16 pm #

    Obama derangement…

    Caruba: Obama’s Not Hitler, But …
    Topic: Accuracy in Media

    In his Oct. 11 Accuracy in Media column, Alan Caruba plays the game of likening the Obama administration to the Nazis while denying he’s doing any such thing:

    Time and again in these troubled and troubling times people make reference to Germany in the 1930s, the rise of the Third Reich, and to Hitler as they express their fears regarding the Obama administration.

    It is an interesting comparison if only because it reveals a sense that an authoritarian government is poised to impose its dictates. This is highly unlikely if only because the forthcoming midterm elections give every indication of overturning any such ambitions by the present administration.

    It is, for example, bleeding its top economic advisors, the former chief of staff to the President, the sudden resignation of the president’s national security advisor, and, most tellingly, virtually every Democrat running for office is running away from Obama’s legislative agenda.

    Obama is hardly a Hitler and the Democrats are hardly Nazis. It’s a bad comparison.

    I think what is at the heart of the comparison is the way, in just under two years, Americans witnessed the government takeover of the healthcare sector, one sixth of the economy, the takeover of General Motors and Chrysler to the benefit of the United Auto Workers and the loss of their creditors and bondholders, and a so-called stimulus package that by most accounts has wasted billions.

    The general anxiety is bolstered by the stagnation of the job market and a widespread belief that Obama, Pelosi and Reid, along with the Democrats in Congress, have taken the nation in the wrong direction. Those familiar with history see the kind of conditions that existed in Germany in the 1930s that were the background for the rise of the Hitler and the Nazi Party. Hitler, however, was not massively abandoned by his supporters as Obama as been.

    […]

    It took twelve years of Nazi rule and the reduction of Berlin to rubble for the usurpation of power to end on May 9, 1945. Compare that, then, with the Obama administration that began on January 20, 2009 followed by a swift loss of public support because of, not despite, its thuggish political effort to reshape the American model into a European socialist one.

    Americans are just weeks away from “taking back” their nation from a man who hid or denied his real life from the voters to get elected on the basis of his oratorical skills and the stage managing of mass gatherings that were curiously reminiscent of Nazi rallies.

    You gotta love how Caruba so blatantly contradicts himself. He’s too consumed with Obama-hate to take much care in keeping up the pretense.

    http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/blog/index.blog/2070469/caruba-obamas-not-hitler-but/

  19. avatar
    Sean October 13, 2010 at 10:52 pm #

    This was not a joke video. I sent a personal message asking about the aunt’s age and this is what I got in reply:

    We really have no proof of Zeituni’s age. I doubt she is only 58 years old, just going by her appearance she looks to be well into her 60’s. She did refer to Obama as “my child” more than once according to the interviewer, but, I posted the only time that it was included in the broadcast. The station did 3 separate broadcasts. which were all different, so all the other times she said it must have hit the cutting room floor. What starting me wondering about this is that Chris Matthews stated several times in a broadcast, that Obama’s mother was alive when he was running for President. By all accounts Stanley Ann died 15 years ago, so who was Matthews talking about? Obama has also said that his mother was the most religious person he has ever known-Stanley Ann was an atheist. After viewing 3 interviews of Zeituni, I realized, she is the most religious person that has appeared on the scene. Is it not possible that she gave birth to Obama, and then her half brother Obama Sr. gave the child to Stanley Ann to raise as her own?

  20. avatar
    J.D. Reed October 14, 2010 at 8:05 am #

    Sean, grasping at straws again?

  21. avatar
    Flipper October 14, 2010 at 8:11 am #

    Oh my, the birfoonery is strong in this one.

    The video maker said to Sean ‘Obama has also said that his mother was the most religious person he has ever known’.

    Obama *actually* said ‘for all her professed secularism, my mother was in many ways the most spiritually awakened person that I’ve ever known’.

    The birther dolt will probably have difficulty recognizing the disctinction.

    Ref 51 on this wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham

  22. avatar
    SvenMagnussen October 14, 2010 at 9:05 am #

    Sean: This was not a joke video. I sent a personal message asking about the aunt’s age and this is what I got in reply:We really have no proof of Zeituni’s age. I doubt she is only 58 years old, just going by her appearance she looks to be well into her 60′s. She did refer to Obama as “my child” more than once according to the interviewer, but, I posted the only time that it was included in the broadcast. The station did 3 separate broadcasts. which were all different, so all the other times she said it must have hit the cutting room floor. What starting me wondering about this is that Chris Matthews stated several times in a broadcast, that Obama’s mother was alive when he was running for President. By all accounts Stanley Ann died 15 years ago, so who was Matthews talking about? Obama has also said that his mother was the most religious person he has ever known-Stanley Ann was an atheist. After viewing 3 interviews of Zeituni, I realized, she is the most religious person that has appeared on the scene. Is it not possible that she gave birth to Obama, and then her half brother Obama Sr. gave the child to Stanley Ann to raise as her own?

    That would explain why SAD Soetoro gave up custody of BO when he was 10.

  23. avatar
    Sean October 14, 2010 at 11:31 am #

    J.D. Reed: Sean, grasping at straws again?

    I’m not grasping at straws, the owner of the video is. I was curious if the video was a tongue in cheek parody, so I asked and showed what his/her response was.

  24. avatar
    BatGuano October 14, 2010 at 11:41 am #

    so…… did stanley armour dunham travel to kenya, sought out a 9-?? year old girl he had no previous contact with, impregnated her, flew back to the states without her then ( not sure how ) he has the love-child smuggled into hawaii and is able to register the birth with the parents listed as his daughter and, miraculously, the mother’s half-brother who just happens to be currently living in the same city ???

    or……..

    did a very young zeituni make the very expensive trip to hawaii ( that her older half-brother couldn’t afford on his own ),bumped uglies with a furniture store owner then returned to kenya and shipped the baby back 9months later ???

    sven ?

  25. avatar
    Rickey October 14, 2010 at 12:21 pm #

    Sean: What starting me wondering about this is that Chris Matthews stated several times in a broadcast, that Obama’s mother was alive when he was running for President.

    He did? You have proof of this? An official transcript or a video clip? Please provide a link to your source.

  26. avatar
    misha October 14, 2010 at 12:28 pm #

    SvenMagnussen: That would explain why SAD Soetoro gave up custody of BO when he was 10.

    Sven: “Socialism needs democracy like the human body needs oxygen.” Leon Trotsky

  27. avatar
    misha October 14, 2010 at 12:35 pm #

    SvenMagnussen: That would explain why SAD Soetoro gave up custody of BO when he was 10.

    Sven: Лев ”ави´ович Трóцкий

  28. avatar
    Daniel October 14, 2010 at 12:40 pm #

    SvenMagnussen: That would explain why SAD Soetoro gave up custody of BO when he was 10.

    The stupid…… it burns!!!

  29. avatar
    Mike October 14, 2010 at 1:27 pm #

    Daniel:
    The stupid…… it burns!!!

    These goggles, they do nothing!

  30. avatar
    SvenMagnussen October 14, 2010 at 2:36 pm #

    misha:
    Sven: Лев ”ави´ович Трóцкий

    Orly gave a three hour lecture on the Obama ineligibility case in Surprise, AZ a few days ago. I’m sorry I missed it.

  31. avatar
    Jules October 14, 2010 at 3:01 pm #

    Of course, the new claims about Obama’s parentage are nonsense.

    In fairness, though, I will note that there are some who seem to have an unhealthy obsession with Sarah Palin’s family and the medical details surrounding the birth of her youngest child. Andrew Sullivan, whose opinion I normally respect, has placed concern about the birth of Trig at the centre of his otherwise reasonable criticism of Sarah Palin. He bases his concern around some inconsistencies surrounding Sarah Palin’s account of Trigs birth, which can be explained in terms of a politician embellishing personal anecdotes. As politicians embellish anecdotes all the time and Ronald Reagan won praise for doing so about topics that actually mattered, I hardly think it noteworthy when Palin apparently does so about a matter that has no policy implications.

    In fact, Sullivan has thrown his hat in with the proofers on grounds of transparency to a level that would allow him to demand the medical records relating to the birth of someone who will never be a candidate for public office.

    Odder still, Sullivan has continued to defend his belief that Obama should release a certified photocopy of the original certificate on the basis that, “It is not my job as a journalist or yours as a citizen to take public officials on trust.” Never mind that any copy of a birth certificate, whether an abstract or a photocopy, is only trusted to be a birth certificate based on the word of the relevant public officials. It’s when you ignore the role of the certification of public officials that you start basing your beliefs on the “evidence” put forward by Orly Taitz of a supposed Kenyan certificate.

  32. avatar
    misha October 14, 2010 at 3:02 pm #

    SvenMagnussen: Orly gave a three hour lecture on the Obama ineligibility case in Surprise, AZ a few days ago. I’m sorry I missed it.

    Go to any state hospital, and talk with any resident. You’ll hear the same thing.

  33. avatar
    Daniel October 14, 2010 at 4:23 pm #

    SvenMagnussen: Orly gave a three hour lecture on the Obama ineligibility case in Surprise, AZ a few days ago. I’m sorry I missed it.

    You have to give Orly credit, she can go on forever about things she is completely ignorant of.

  34. avatar
    HellT October 14, 2010 at 4:43 pm #

    misha:
    Yes, it’s payback. They tried with Clinton, and they’ll do it to Obama – guaranteed.

    And a mass mailing has gone out from the National Campaign for an Impeachment Inquiry, claiming to be surveying 5 million registered voters on whether Congress should start impeachment proceedings. Gawker’s got a story on it at
    http://gawker.com/5663985/insane-impeach-obama-flyer-coming-to-a-mailbox-near-you

  35. avatar
    Daniel October 14, 2010 at 6:08 pm #

    HellT: And a mass mailing has gone out from the National Campaign for an Impeachment Inquiry, claiming to be surveying 5 million registered voters

    Well if it goes by typical birther math, those 5 million will cosist of the author’s Aunt Myrtle and the entire population of Cooper’s Crick, Kentucky

  36. avatar
    ellid October 14, 2010 at 11:35 pm #

    Sven –

    Please provide proof, in the form of a Scribd copy of an actual court document from 1971, signed by a judge, that Stanley Ann Dunham voluntarily surrendered her parental rights over her son. Failure to do so within twenty-four hours will be considered proof that you are lying for the sheer love of your own falsehoods.

    Clock starts now. Tick…tick…tick….

  37. avatar
    obsolete October 15, 2010 at 1:48 am #

    ellid: Sven –

    Please provide proof, in the form of a Scribd copy of an actual court document from 1971,

    Maybe Sven can hire convicted forger Lucas Smith to start producing bogus documents for him?

  38. avatar
    AnotherBird October 15, 2010 at 9:37 am #

    sponson: GOP Congressional candidate calls for impeachment power in order to “force” Obama to show his birth certificate.

    Why do birther continue to make silly suggestion. Maybe because they know that they can harp about them endlessly knowing deep down that they would get their wish.

  39. avatar
    Sef October 15, 2010 at 10:07 am #

    AnotherBird:
    Why do birther continue to make silly suggestion. Maybe because they know that they can harp about them endlessly knowing deep down that they would get their wish.

    Because they know that there is an audience for their silliness who will believe every word they say. With the dumbing down of our schools it’s just going to get worse.

  40. avatar
    AnotherBird October 15, 2010 at 10:02 pm #

    SvenMagnussen:
    Orly gave a three hour lecture on the Obama ineligibility case in Surprise, AZ a few days ago. I’m sorry I missed it.

    It is interesting a person would give a lecture on an issue that they seem to be incompetent on. Sven don’t worry there won’t be a test on it. Orly Taitz should just stick to real estate or dentistry, and leave the law to real professionals.

  41. avatar
    misha October 15, 2010 at 10:19 pm #

    AnotherBird: Orly Taitz should just stick to real estate or dentistry

    She’s incompetent at those, too.

  42. avatar
    NbC October 16, 2010 at 12:35 am #

    AnotherBird:
    It is interesting a person would give a lecture on an issue that they seem to be incompetent on. Sven don’t worry there won’t be a test on it. Orly Taitz should just stick to real estate or dentistry, and leave the law to real professionals.

    If Orly’s filings with the Courts are any indication, the three hours are totally wasted. She has no understanding of the Constitutional interpretation, Court rulings and scholarly and historical understanding of the term natural born.

    Nada

  43. avatar
    Reality Check October 16, 2010 at 11:29 am #

    misha: She’s incompetent at those, too.

    Yes, let’s not forgot that the most probable reason that Orly enrolled in Taft Law Skool was to be able to defend herself in numerous dental malpractice lawsuits.

  44. avatar
    Rickey October 16, 2010 at 2:25 pm #

    Reality Check:
    Yes, let’s not forgot that the most probable reason that Orly enrolled in Taft Law Skool was to be able to defend herself in numerous dental malpractice lawsuits.

    The docket at Orange County Superior Court shows six malpractice lawsuits against Orly. Do a name search on the surname “Taitz” and you’ll also see some cases involving her husband, including one in which he was accused of assault and battery.

    http://www.occourts.org/

  45. avatar
    misha October 16, 2010 at 2:32 pm #

    Rickey: cases involving her husband, including one in which he was accused of assault and battery.

    Gotta love those Russians. There was a gangster shoot-out on a Tel Aviv beach. Only one bystander was killed. Kudos!

  46. avatar
    Majority Will October 16, 2010 at 2:34 pm #

    Reality Check:
    Yes, let’s not forgot that the most probable reason that Orly enrolled in Taft Law Skool was to be able to defend herself in numerous dental malpractice lawsuits.

    I’ll need to find the source but I had read that she obtained a real estate license only for the purchase of their estate and has not used it for any other reason. And her license has since expired.

    Does that make any sense? Would it be just to save on the commission?

  47. avatar
    Reality Check October 16, 2010 at 3:15 pm #

    Majority Will: Does that make any sense? Would it be just to save on the commission?

    I never thought I would quote World Nut Daily as a source but take it for what it is worth:

    “When she sold her California home, Taitz also earned her real estate broker’s license to save on commission from the sale. She said she plans to renew it when the eligibility lawsuits have been resolved.”

    http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=94377

    I think that means her license had expired at the time of the interview.

  48. avatar
    Majority Will October 16, 2010 at 3:24 pm #

    Reality Check:
    I never thought I would quote World Nut Daily as a source but take it for what it is worth:“When she sold her California home, Taitz also earned her real estate broker’s license to save on commission from the sale. She said she plans to renew it when the eligibility lawsuits have been resolved.”http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=94377I think that means her license had expired at the time of the interview.

    Thanks, RC.

    “She said she plans to renew it when the eligibility lawsuits have been resolved.”

    To her satisfaction or the rest of the sane world including actual, legal authorities grounded in reality?

    /end rhetorical

  49. avatar
    Paul Pieniezny October 16, 2010 at 4:27 pm #

    misha:
    Gotta love those Russians. There was a gangster shoot-out on a Tel Aviv beach. Only one bystander was killed. Kudos!

    Orly Taitz is from Moldova. Her husband is from Latvia. Practically all Jewish members of the Russian Maffia are from Georgia. Funny how they became “Russian” only when they left the Soviet Union.

    Of course, Ricardo Fanchini, the leader of the Russian Maffia in Belgium (he started his career as a bouncer and bodyguard in Antwerp’s diamond district) is neither Jewish nor born in the USSR. But appearances are deceiving – he’s Polish;
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7869705.stm

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    misha October 16, 2010 at 6:14 pm #

    Paul Pieniezny: Funny how they became “Russian” only when they left the Soviet Union.
    Of course, Ricardo Fanchini, the leader of the Russian Maffia in Belgium (he started his career as a bouncer and bodyguard in Antwerp’s diamond district)

    Avigdor Lieberman is also from Moldova, Birds of a feather. Guess what Lieberman did before being elected: he was a bouncer.