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Let’s move on

That’s the theme that I’ve been seeing in newspaper articles of late:

Hey, it works for me.

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68 Responses to Let’s move on

  1. avatar
    richCares May 6, 2011 at 12:06 pm #

    the birther comments in some of those articles is a hoot! Hating Obama causes brain damage.

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    Fred May 6, 2011 at 12:52 pm #

    The hate has eaten away their souls to the point of no return. So yea, let’s move on and let them babble on to themselves as the frothy drool bubbles out of the side of their mouth.

    The ones with a few remaining brain cells have moved on to try give Bush credit for Bin Ladens killing. The same people who were calling it “Obama’s war” last week. See, because only the bad parts are Obama’s war.

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    bjphysics May 6, 2011 at 1:44 pm #

    Gee, do we have to move on? Isn’t there some way to keep the belief alive among 20-25% of Republicans; who would never vote for Obama anyway? Like fighting pit bulls in a backyard cage they could be relied upon to shout “he’s a Kenyan – Marxist!” at rallies for the final GOP nominee. Shouting on about layers, father’s listed race, serial number, etc. All caught on camera for the nightly news.

    My bad.

    In my opinion there IS something wrong going on with the typical Republican neural process but without the birthers, it’s a hard sell. With the birthers, it’s a much easier sell – enough to sway just the right number on Independents to Vote Big-B in 2012.

    All kidding aside, my gut tells me no flames need be fanned and no fuel added to make my scenario come true. If left to their own devices, enough of the Republican base will make this happen – they require no assistance to look crazy.

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    Majority Will May 6, 2011 at 1:45 pm #

    Let’s move on dot org.

    (And this is a much bigger time and money waste than Clinton’s impeachment.)

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    DCH May 6, 2011 at 1:47 pm #

    The birthers have outlived their usefulness and are being defriended by the GOP as it gears up for 2012.
    Birthers are such rubes. Punked again.

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    Daniel May 6, 2011 at 1:57 pm #

    And yet we still have 911 “truthers”, holocaust deniers, chem trailers, moon unlanders, etc….

    There will always be birthers. They will fade into obscurity, and people will stop paying any attention to them,

    AS long as there is one unpopular child walking around the kindergarten playground, desperate for attention, crying out “I know something you don’t know”….. there will always be birthers.

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    Dr. Conspiracy May 6, 2011 at 2:46 pm #

    Before we move on…

    You know, two weeks ago I was pretty sure Trump was born in New York. I had just a little doubt, a tiny bit of a doubt, just a little bit. You know, I hope he was born there. I really do. But the more I look into this, you know, people, people looking into this and they aren’t believing what they are seeing. Just look at what they found!

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    Mary Brown May 6, 2011 at 2:46 pm #

    I think we had better get smart and start reading Ayn Rand’s books and interviews. She tends to be a darling in some circles. People tend to forget that the eugenics movement never died.

  9. avatar
    Fred May 6, 2011 at 2:54 pm #

    The only thing that is dying are the people behind this. The KKK never died. Just the people behind it. Until their very last breath they continued to be clansmen.

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 6, 2011 at 3:44 pm #

    Mary Brown: I think we had better get smart and start reading Ayn Rand’s books and interviews. She tends to be a darling in some circles. People tend to forget that the eugenics movement never died.

    I listened to an interview with her the other day. I have to say she comes across as a heartless person. She says that selflessness is immoral and selfishness is moral.

    Here is an interview she did with the Great Mike Wallace

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ukJiBZ8_4k

    For all her philosphy she ended up on government handouts in her lifetime.

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    bjphysics May 6, 2011 at 4:01 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: Before we move on…You know, two weeks ago I was pretty sure Trump was born in New York. I had just a little doubt, a tiny bit of a doubt, just a little bit. You know, I hope he was born there. I really do. But the more I look into this, you know, people, people looking into this and they aren’t believing what they are seeing. Just look at what they found!

    OMG, he wasn’t born in the United States, he was born in Hawaii.

    Have you considered this might be a forgery because his mother’s race is listed as WHITE and not CELTIC?

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    Scientist May 6, 2011 at 4:03 pm #

    Mary Brown: I think we had better get smart and start reading Ayn Rand’s books and interviews. She tends to be a darling in some circles. People tend to forget that the eugenics movement never died.

    I’ve tried to read her books; quite frankly her writing was awful. The telephone book is a better read. If you must read libertarian sci-fi, I would recommend Heinlein; at least he could write halfway decently.

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    Greg May 6, 2011 at 4:52 pm #

    I actually finished Atlas Shrugged. What a piece of dreck!

    One critic suggested it was a shame that they’d only be doing the first part of that movie, since the second one would show how inhuman she was (killing an entire train of people by gas and then gloating that they deserved it because they were leeches). The third movie would just be a three hour speech by John Galt.

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 6, 2011 at 5:07 pm #

    Greg: I actually finished Atlas Shrugged. What a piece of dreck! One critic suggested it was a shame that they’d only be doing the first part of that movie, since the second one would show how inhuman she was (killing an entire train of people by gas and then gloating that they deserved it because they were leeches). The third movie would just be a three hour speech by John Galt.

    Yeah her characters are screwed up. She praises terrorism, rape, murder of civilians, etc.

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    DP May 6, 2011 at 5:52 pm #

    Actually, I suspect the birther mind set would write all this off as further proof of the conspiracy. After all, we long ago passed the point where pretty much everyone has to be in on it anyway.

    Whittaker Chambers, of all people, actually wrote a very thoughtful take down of Atlas Shrugged. He pointed out that Rand had fallen from exalting behavior traits she liked in The Fountainhead, which retains some human sensibility, to simply fuming in hateful rage at the world in Shrugged.

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    y_p_w May 6, 2011 at 7:27 pm #

    DP:
    Actually, I suspect the birther mind set would write all this off as further proof of the conspiracy. After all, we long ago passed the point where pretty much everyone has to be in on it anyway.

    The problem with everyone “being in on it” is that the combination of several conspiracy theories doesn’t make logical sense, and I’m sure there are some birthers who have combined several theories that don’t make sense together. Of course it’s assumed by some birthers that the Hawaii Dept of Health is issuing statements that are false about Obama’s birthplace. If that’s the case, then they should be able to fabricate a paper document for Obama. However – the latest twist is the supposed “layers” in the scanned “long form” image, which theoretically shouldn’t be needed if the DoH could fabricate a complete paper document.

    It all boggles the mind.

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    Joey May 6, 2011 at 8:42 pm #

    Not every newspaper is ready to “move on” from the Obama birth certificate issue. The Greeley (Colorado) Gazette, Ltc. Lakin’s hometown alternative newspaper is calling on the President to: “To resolve this Obama needs to take the additional step to put the issue to rest. He needs to present the original for forensic testing.” The article also wants to give all the credit for the release to “alternative media.”
    That’s right folks, President Obama needs to have his original birth certificate (which he doesn’t have access to) carbon dated and examined by forgery experts and handwriting analysts!

  18. avatar
    El Diablo Negro May 6, 2011 at 9:22 pm #

    I noticed Corsi’s book is not even on Amazon’s top 100 best sellers anymore. I noticed only fringe sites are still trying to hawk it.

  19. avatar
    Joey May 6, 2011 at 9:30 pm #

    I forgot to include a link to the Greeley Gazette article:
    http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=9501

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    Arthur May 6, 2011 at 9:52 pm #

    El Diablo Negro:
    I noticed Corsi’s book is not even on Amazon’s top 100 best sellers anymore. I noticed only fringe sites are still trying to hawk it.

    Excellent news; I’m glad to hear his baloney isn’t selling very well.

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    y_p_w May 6, 2011 at 10:54 pm #

    Joey:
    I forgot to include a link to the Greeley Gazette article:
    http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=9501

    How about this one?

    http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=9438

    The author lists a bunch of theories about the Conn SSN except the most plausible – i.e. the 96814 zip code for Honolulu, HI with a typo to make it 06814 to correspond to Danbury, CT.

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    Suranis May 6, 2011 at 11:04 pm #

    El Diablo Negro:
    I noticed Corsi’s book is not even on Amazon’s top 100 best sellers anymore. I noticed only fringe sites are still trying to hawk it.

    It’s 137 as I type.

    And, hilariously, the birthers are getting roasted in the comments.

  23. avatar
    Rickey May 6, 2011 at 11:14 pm #

    Suranis: It’s 137 as I type.

    I’d love to know how many pre-orders have been cancelled.

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    bjphysics May 6, 2011 at 11:55 pm #

    Greg: I actually finished Atlas Shrugged. What a piece of dreck! One critic suggested it was a shame that they’d only be doing the first part of that movie, since the second one would show how inhuman she was (killing an entire train of people by gas and then gloating that they deserved it because they were leeches). The third movie would just be a three hour speech by John Galt.

    “There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”

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    El Diablo Negro May 7, 2011 at 12:35 am #

    Rickey: I’d love to know how many pre-orders have been cancelled.

    That’s gotta sting. not that I really care.

  26. avatar
    aarrgghh May 7, 2011 at 3:26 am #

    no, no, a thousand times, no!

    we. are. most. definitely. not. moving. ooonn!!!!!!!

  27. avatar
    aarrgghh May 7, 2011 at 3:40 am #

    and some folks think two can play obama’s game.

    well good luck with that.

  28. avatar
    US Citizen May 7, 2011 at 5:41 am #

    This article’s title is a gem: “Still birther? Get help”

  29. avatar
    Lupin May 7, 2011 at 5:44 am #

    Bobby Jindal is forced to lease his birth certificate.

    Rightwing freepers no likee.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2716435/posts

    The winner is…. “Casie” with this stunning burst of insight:

    “Fine! Obama is eligible. Jindal is eligible. My dog is eligible.”

  30. avatar
    DCH May 7, 2011 at 6:40 am #

    Oh it is a Freerepublic POLICY!

    “Natural born Citizens are born from citizen parents..this has been free republics policy for several years..the recently released birth certificate confirms our spurious born obama is merely a perpetual inhabitant.”

    Idiots. The COLB said the exact samething years ago and FP is now a ruling body of Birtherstan.

  31. avatar
    richCares May 7, 2011 at 9:58 am #

    This article’s title is a gem: “Still birther? Get help”
    .
    I like this line in the article
    “Anyone who remains a birther should seek treatment from a psychiatrist for paranoia.”

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    Joey May 7, 2011 at 11:34 am #

    DCH:
    Oh it is a Freerepublic POLICY!

    “Natural born Citizens are born from citizen parents..this has been free republics policy for several years..the recently released birth certificate confirms our spurious born obama is merely a perpetual inhabitant.”

    Idiots. The COLB said the exact samething years ago and FP is now a ruling body of Birtherstan.

    Except the founder and chief administrator of Free Republic is not a birther! The birthers on freerepublic.com are furious that so many “afterbirther Obot trolls” are allowed to post there!

  33. avatar
    aarrgghh May 7, 2011 at 11:39 am #

    how can real americans™ move on when you commie obots won’t let go of it?

    bloody sam roberts: “As driven by the Left. It won’t die because they are in full coverup and damage control mode.”

    eye of unk: “America has never left the ‘birther thing’.
    It has not disappeared, slowed down or been pummeled to obscurity.
    It is what will create truth for our future generations history books.
    I take great satisfaction knowing no matter how often ‘birtherism’ is attack there are millions in America who continue with the faith of it.”

  34. avatar
    Joey May 7, 2011 at 11:42 am #

    Is everyone aware that “Orly Taitz Trumped DOJ lawyers” with her brilliant legal arguments?”
    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/atty-taitz-trumps-dojs-argument-that.html

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    Rickey May 7, 2011 at 11:56 am #

    Lupin:
    Bobby Jindal is forced to lease his birth certificate.

    Rightwing freepers no likee.

    And they are still lying through their teeth, claiming that they were taught the “two citizen parent requirement” in high school. Of course, the birthers have yet to come up with the name of a single textbook which says that.

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    y_p_w May 7, 2011 at 12:09 pm #

    Lupin:
    Bobby Jindal is forced to lease his birth certificate.

    Rightwing freepers no likee.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2716435/posts

    The winner is…. “Casie” with this stunning burst of insight:

    “Fine! Obama is eligible. Jindal is eligible. My dog is eligible.”

    How did he get a copy of his original? I’ve been reading the NOLA.com website, and there were several comments that people who lost their originals during Hurricane Katrina could only get a certified computer-printout copy.

    Besides that, electronic birth registration means that those born in Louisiana after a certain time likely won’t be able to get a copy of the “original document”.

  37. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy May 7, 2011 at 1:33 pm #

    y_p_w:
    How did he get a copy of his original? I’ve been reading the NOLA.com website, and there were several comments that people who lost their originals during Hurricane Katrina could only get a certified computer-printout copy.

    All birth certificates in private hands are certified copies. This idea that some body has an “original birth certificate” that they can lose is poppycock. The State has the only original, and they only make copies. What Jindal showed is the original certificate PHOTOCOPIED onto security paper. Like they holograms on documents back in 1971.

  38. avatar
    y_p_w May 7, 2011 at 1:45 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: All birth certificates in private hands are certified copies. This idea that some body has an “original birth certificate” that they can lose is poppycock. The State has the only original, and they only make copies. What Jindal showed is the original certificate PHOTOCOPIED onto security paper. Like they holograms on documents back in 1971.

    I understand your sentiment, but my context for “originals” was the certified photocopies that people had in their possession before the hurricane swept them away. I understand the distinction, but could have probably used better wording.

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    Joey May 7, 2011 at 3:37 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: All birth certificates in private hands are certified copies. This idea that some body has an “original birth certificate” that they can lose is poppycock. The State has the only original, and they only make copies. What Jindal showed is the original certificate PHOTOCOPIED onto security paper. Like they holograms on documents back in 1971.

    It looks like Jindal’s parents listed their race as “Indian.” What’s next? Allowing someone to list their race as “African”? Don’t these people know the differences between continents, sub-continents and legitimate races? 🙂

  40. avatar
    Izzybella May 7, 2011 at 4:05 pm #

    Lupin: Bobby Jindal is forced to lease his birth certificate.Rightwing freepers no likee.http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2716435/postsThe winner is…. “Casie” with this stunning burst of insight:“Fine! Obama is eligible. Jindal is eligible. My dog is eligible.”

    I have to take issue with the dog. I highly doubt he has reached the age requirement.

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    Dr. Conspiracy May 7, 2011 at 4:23 pm #

    Joey: It looks like Jindal’s parents listed their race as “Indian.” What’s next? Allowing someone to list their race as “African”? Don’t these people know the differences between continents, sub-continents and legitimate races? 🙂

    FYI

    To collect OMB race and ethnicity data, entities should use either the one-question or two-question format, depending on their system’s field capacity. In accordance with OMB guidance, when the two-question format is used, the Hispanic ethnicity question should be first, and a “Select one or more” instruction should be included; OMB has indicated a preference for the two-question format. The recording of specific multiracial combinations (e.g., American Indian or Alaska Native and Black) is preferred by the subcommittee over assigning a single “multiracial” category to all persons of mixed race. A “Some other race” response category should be included for questions on race for respondents who do not identify with any of the OMB race categories. The minimum OMB categories to be collected are, then:

    Hispanic or Latino (in the two-question format, this is a separate question, having the choice of Hispanic.
    or Latino and Not Hispanic or Latino).
    Black or African American.
    White.
    Asian.
    American Indian or Alaska Native.
    Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander (NHOPI).
    Some other race.

    Noting that Asia is a continent.

  42. avatar
    Daniel May 7, 2011 at 5:51 pm #

    Lupin: Bobby Jindal is forced to lease his birth certificate.

    That’s odd….

    Wouldn’t he just buy a copy outright?

    Doesn’t even make tax sense to lease something that cheap.

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    obsolete May 7, 2011 at 7:39 pm #

    Daniel: hat’s odd….

    Wouldn’t he just buy a copy outright?

    And “Indian” isn’t a race…
    What is he hiding?

  44. avatar
    GeorgetownJD May 7, 2011 at 7:48 pm #

    Joey:
    Not every newspaper is ready to “move on” from the Obama birth certificate issue. The Greeley (Colorado) Gazette, Ltc. Lakin’s hometown alternative newspaper is calling on the President to: “To resolve this Obama needs to take the additional step to put the issue to rest. He needs to present the original for forensic testing.” The article also wants to give all the credit for the release to “alternative media.”
    That’s right folks, President Obama needs to have his original birth certificate (which he doesn’t have access to) carbon dated and examined by forgery experts and handwriting analysts!

    We should take up a pool to reward the one who comes closest to estimating how many carbon atoms have decayed since 1961 …

  45. avatar
    Suranis May 7, 2011 at 8:38 pm #

    Carbon 14 has a half life of 10000 years. Knock yourself out.

  46. avatar
    NBC May 7, 2011 at 8:57 pm #

    Carbon dating… As Suranis pointed out the halflife makes it not useable for short periods. I believe the shortest dating with C14 has been 1200 years. PS: the half life is about 5700 years.

    Of course, the requirements are just foolish ‘moving the goal posts’.

  47. avatar
    Suranis May 7, 2011 at 11:29 pm #

    NBC: PS: the half life is about 5700 years.

    yeah sorry NBC. You’re right of course.

  48. avatar
    Paul Pieniezny May 8, 2011 at 7:50 am #

    NBC:
    Carbon dating…As Suranis pointed out the halflife makes it not useable for short periods. I believe the shortest dating with C14 has been 1200 years. PS: the half life is about 5700 years.

    Of course, the requirements are just foolish moving the goal posts’.

    No, it is a bit less, though controversially so.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_14_dating_of_the_Shroud_of_Turin

    There are a few sentences in that article that sound familiar:

    1. “The conclusions of the author, Raymond Rogers, result from “starting with the desired conclusion and working backward to the evidence”.

    2. “The Russian Dmitri Kouznetsov, an archaeological biologist and chemist, claimed in 1994 to have managed to experimentally reproduce this purported enrichment of the cloth in ancient weaves, and published numerous articles on the subject.” (as in “The Russian Orly Taitz, a constitutional dentist and lawyer, claimed in 2008 to have mabaged to experimentally reproduce this purported enrichment of ancient social security numbers, and published many web articles on the subject.”) Kuznetsov feeneeshed … in jail, well, one can only hope…

    3. “Conspiracy theorists have proposed that the published results are, in fact, reflective of the control piece dating back from the 14th century, insinuating that the labs would have (perhaps unwittingly) “mixed up” the samples and produced a final report predicated on analyses conducted on the wrong piece of cloth.” (as in: “Conspiracy theorists have proposed that the published birth certificate is, in fact, reflective of the COLB dating back from 2007, insinuating that the Hawaii DOH would have mixed up the samples and produced a final PDF predicated on scanning conducted on the wrong document.”)

    Hm, seems like carbon dating something that is merely 50 years old and not 700 may lead to new Birfer extravaganza.

  49. avatar
    richCares May 8, 2011 at 12:10 pm #

    how can the Bitrhers move on, they keep repeating same old bull, it’s as if they have Altzheimers! They must be Rod Sterling fans (Twilight Zone)

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    Joey May 8, 2011 at 1:58 pm #

    richCares:
    how can the Bitrhers move on, they keep repeating same old bull, it’s as if they have Altzheimers!They must be Rod Sterling fans (Twilight Zone)

    The two American citizen parent myth is in full effect on birther blogs and bulliten boards. I wish a major CONSERVATIVE constitutional scholar would come forward and destroy the Vattel (and related) arguments once and for all.

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    US Citizen May 8, 2011 at 3:02 pm #

    richCares:
    how can the Bitrhers move on, they keep repeating same old bull, it’s as if they have Altzheimers!They must be Rod Sterling fans (Twilight Zone)

    Fwiw, it’s Serling, not Sterling. 🙂

  52. avatar
    Expelliarmus May 8, 2011 at 5:52 pm #

    richCares:
    how can the Bitrhers move on, they keep repeating same old bull, it’s as if they have Altzheimers!They must be Rod Sterling fans (Twilight Zone)

    I think they are fans of the movie Groundhog Day. They seem to think that if they keep saying the same thing over and over again, eventually something will change and things will come out their way.

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    NBC May 8, 2011 at 10:22 pm #

    An update on arguments that under section 401, Obama had lost his US citizenship since he had failed to return before reaching the age of 23 and sworn an oath.

    Update: Some people have argued that under 401(a) Obama lost his US citizenship because he did not swear an oath of allegiance after he had ‘expatriated’ himself when his mother left Hawaii to live with her husband in Indonesia. That is an incorrect reading of the 1940 Naturalization Act which provided for those who had reached the age of 21 before 1941, 2 years of time to return to the United States and elect US citizenship. Those who reached the age of majority after 1941 would be able to continue their citizenship by returning to the United States before reaching age of 23.

    See USCIS Interpretation 349.2 Expatriation by foreign naturalization .

    (6) Since January 13, 1941; through parent, guardian, or agent . (i) Requirement that citizen take up permanent residence in United States; majority attained before the 1941 date . Subject to exceptions noted in (vi) which follows in order, a United States national minor who, prior to January 13, 1941, had acquired duality of status after birth through the foreign naturalization of a parent, and who having also attained the age of 21 years before such date was obligated to choose between the two nationalities under the doctrine of election, and who failed to exercise such choice before the 1941 date, was required to take up permanent residence in the United States prior to January 1 3, 1943, 180/ or forfeit his United Sates citizenship under section 401(a) of the Nationality Act of 1940. Taking up such residence was deemed to be an election of the United States citizenship. This retention-by entry-privilege 181/ within two years was granted to persons regardless of age at the time of entry and irrespective of the number of years they may have resided abroad after attaining majority. 182/
    (ii) Requirement that citizen take up permanent residence in United States; majority attained on or after the 1941 date . If the dual national described in (i) above did not attain majority until on or after January 13, 1941, section 401(a) of the Nationality Act of 1940 required him to enter the United States for permanent residence before his 23rd birthday in order to avoid citizenship loss 183/ unless, on December 24, 1952, he had not as yet attained his 23rd birthday, in which event the then effective provisions of the current statute184/ apply and the citizen may make such an entry prior to his 25th
    birthday 185/ and thereby retain citizenship.

    Furthermore under section 403(b) of the Nationality Act of 1940 expatriation pursuant to section 401(b-g) of that statute cannot occur when the citizen is under 18 years of age. Sec 401(f) describes renunciation of citizenship in front of a diplomatic or consular officer. This lays to rest any such scenarios, proposed by ‘Sven Magnusson’

    In other words, Obama by returning to the US at age 10, was not only unable to have expatriated himself, but also would have continued his birthright US citizenship

    more at my blog

  54. avatar
    Slartibartfast May 8, 2011 at 11:41 pm #

    bjphysics: “There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”

    Scientist: I’ve tried to read her books; quite frankly her writing was awful.The telephone book is a better read.If you must read libertarian sci-fi, I would recommend Heinlein; at least he could write halfway decently.

    Thank god I read books with Orcs and Heinlein!

  55. avatar
    richCares May 8, 2011 at 11:44 pm #

    Corsi is moving on, he got the goods on Obama, da goods is so good he will get da Donald back on board, da Donald may wish to have another butt reaming. Get the chains out, Corsi has him dead to rights with special investigator Takeyuki Irei. Where are the resident trolls on this new OMG paypal moment. As happened in the last 20 OMG WND moments, the paypal gets pushed and Obama is marched out. That’s the 20th time Obama is marched out, his shoes are worn out by now, but the paypal is pushed (Altzheimers)
    .
    It’s sad, to be a Corsi fan, you have to flunk the intelligence test.

  56. avatar
    richCares May 8, 2011 at 11:57 pm #

    we have very valid newsworthy agencies reporting on detective Takeyki Irei’s story on Obama’s fraud. These highly reliable news agencies are:
    1. WND
    2. post&eMail
    3. TeaParty,org
    4. conservativebyte.com
    5. freerepublic
    The jig is up, we Obot’s have lost, Corsi won.
    let’s start clicking the WND paypal button
    I is so skared of dis! I don’t wants to go to no FEMA kamp, Help me Please help me.

  57. avatar
    Expelliarmus May 9, 2011 at 12:34 am #

    Two points:

    Like many other states, Hawaii requires that private investigators be licensed with the state.

    No person with the last name “Irei” has ever been licensed as a private detective in Hawaii.

  58. avatar
    Expelliarmus May 9, 2011 at 12:36 am #

    P.S. I tried running a search for “Irie” as the last name as well, on the off chance that WND spelled the name wrong — no PI with that name either.

  59. avatar
    richCares May 9, 2011 at 12:46 am #

    there is a 57 year old Takeyuki Irei in Hawaii, but no PI (you can order details)
    http://www.intelius.com/results.php?ReportType=1&formname=name&qf=Takeyuki&qmi=&qn=Irei&qcs=honolulu%2C+hawaii&focusfirst=1

    relations listed
    Kiyo Irei
    Debra Joanne Irei
    Chadwick Tadayuki Irei

  60. avatar
    The Magic M May 9, 2011 at 12:52 pm #

    > I would think that Irei is the first name.

    From a quick research, it appears Takeyuki is a Japanese first name, not a last name. Irei is a Japanese last name.

  61. avatar
    y_p_w May 9, 2011 at 1:12 pm #

    The Magic M:
    > I would think that Irei is the first name.

    From a quick research, it appears Takeyuki is a Japanese first name, not a last name. Irei is a Japanese last name.

    I think the terms “family name” and “given name” are more appropriate. Most East Asian naming conventions are for the family name to come before the given name(s), including in Japan. It does get confusing though. I think Japanese names have almost universally been translated into [Given name] [Family name] in English. It’s more free-form with Chinese names, where Yao Ming is probably the best known example of someone who hasn’t modified the naming convention. At least in the US it’s been a bit more difficult to specify the preferred naming convention in applications, etc.

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    Arthur May 9, 2011 at 2:39 pm #

    Izzybella: I have to take issue with the dog. I highly doubt he has reached the age requirement.

    EXCEPT . . . as constitutional scholar Orly Taitz has pointed out, in article II (as per Vattel) presidential eligibility rules allow one to measure years in dog age, so a dog need be only five years old in human terms to accept the oath of office.

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    Majority Will May 9, 2011 at 3:02 pm #

    Arthur: EXCEPT . . . as constitutional scholar Orly Taitz has pointed out, in article II (as per Vattel) presidential eligibility rules allow one to measure years in dog age, so a dog need be only five years old in human terms to accept the oath of office.

    Except that some veterinarians subscribe to the notion that year one for a human and dog are fairly equal in rate of growth and then each year after is counted as seven and some believe that this type of measurement is bunk entirely and a waste of time. There’s room here for a whole new debate. Of course it’s probably another conspiracy.

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    Arthur May 9, 2011 at 4:22 pm #

    Call me a dogger, but I’m sticking with Vattel on this. As he said in “The Law of Dogs,” “Un an de chien est égal sept ans humains.” And of course, both the dame and sire must be, in Vattel’s words, “naturels.”

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    Majority Will May 9, 2011 at 4:56 pm #

    Arthur:
    Call me a dogger, but I’m sticking with Vattel on this. As he said in “The Law of Dogs,” “Un an de chien est égal sept ans humains.”And of course, both the dame and sire must be, in Vattel’s words, “naturels.”

    You’re a dogger! 😀

    Now who’s a good boy?

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    gorefan May 9, 2011 at 7:27 pm #

    Majority Will: some believe that this type of measurement is bunk entirely and a waste of time.

    Pedigree’s website allows you to enter the breed of dog and then its age in years to determine human age equivalence. The theory being that larger dog breeds (Great Dane) age faster then smaller breeds (chihuahua).

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    Majority Will May 9, 2011 at 7:51 pm #

    gorefan: Pedigree’s website allows you to enter the breed of dog and then its age in years to determine human age equivalence.The theory being that larger dog breeds (Great Dane) age faster then smaller breeds (chihuahua).

    And I’m sure the Shar Pei adds another wrinkle to the theory.

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    bjphysics May 9, 2011 at 9:15 pm #

    Slartibartfast: Thank god I read books with Orcs and Heinlein!

    Just to be clear, I was quoting Valentine Michael Smith or Kung Fu Monkey or both because nobody knows what Smith says when Heinlein isn’t looking.