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Comments: what just happened (canceled)

I set the dynamite charges and pushed the detonator. In a grand experiment, the commenting system has been replaced with a third-party one, DISQUS. DISQUS is widely used on media web sites to to implement a discussion community, sites such as CNN, The Atlantic and Time.

An advantage to you is that you can login once to DISQUS and use the account in multiple places. You can brand your comment with your personal avatar, you can view your comments and replies across web sites, and you can subscribe to discussions and receive email notifications when someone replies to you. DISQUS also supports comment nesting, editing and the attachment of images, plus you get a “Like” feature.

DISQUS is supposedly in the process of importing all the current comments into its database; they say imports can take up to 24 hours. All comments you make through DISQUS should be stored here in the blog’s database also, so if DISQUS is removed, the comments will still be there.

Update:

Let me leave you with this word of caution. I left a comment on WND, which also uses DISQUS, to which someone replied. I was able to click on that person’s name and see a list of other mostly right-wing web sites where that person had posted like Glenn Beck, plus one other site: Mr. Stiff – Porn Search Engine. Social media is not to be taken lightly.

Here is an article about the HTML markup allowed with DISQUS.

Try it out and let me know what you think.

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48 Responses to Comments: what just happened (canceled)

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    DrConspiracy August 4, 2012 at 1:43 pm #

    I’m thinking another 20 minutes or so to finish importing the comments.

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    DrConspiracy August 4, 2012 at 1:50 pm #

    About 10% of the comments have been imported so far.

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    Squeeky Fromm August 4, 2012 at 2:19 pm #

    Testing the new system. . .

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

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    Dave B. August 4, 2012 at 2:19 pm #

    This is me trying it out.

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    DrConspiracy August 4, 2012 at 2:26 pm #

    I see your avatar works.

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    Squeeky Fromm August 4, 2012 at 2:26 pm #

    Hi Dave B!!!

    Hey, I am worried about Dr. C. There is a green box thingie by his name that says “MOD” which means “Missing or Dead.” What happened??? Did he get comment overload??? Or spam poisoning???

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

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    Northland10 August 4, 2012 at 2:28 pm #

    Hmm.. I left a comment in the new system on another thread (HBTY…) and it appears to be missing. [Edit: never mind.. it appears to have returned].

    Squeeky.. MOD is another term for Moderator or, called in earlier times, in some places, the sysop (which really needs an evil music response).

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    Squeeky Fromm August 4, 2012 at 2:28 pm #

    Yes, thank goodness. Avatars make it a lot easier to find yourself in big threads.

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

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    Rickey August 4, 2012 at 2:33 pm #

    There is no quote function? If that is the case, it is a serious drawback.

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    Rickey August 4, 2012 at 2:35 pm #

    I’ve also noted that the page displays the most recent posts first, so to follow a discussion from the beginning you have to scroll down to the bottom and work your way back up.

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    LW August 4, 2012 at 2:39 pm #

    Testing… I’m taking the opportunity to switch from “justlw” to just “LW” .

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    Northland10 August 4, 2012 at 2:40 pm #

    On the Discussion menu above the comments, you can set the order differently.

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    Rickey August 4, 2012 at 2:42 pm #

    One more observation – the most recent posts are no longer appearing in the sidebar. That’s always been a useful tool for seeing which threads are currently active.

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    Rickey August 4, 2012 at 2:44 pm #

    Bingo! Thanks, I much prefer it with the oldest posts first.

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    Rickey August 4, 2012 at 2:46 pm #

    When I entered my e-mail address it automatically found my avatar, which I have used elsewhere.

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    Rickey August 4, 2012 at 2:51 pm #

    I like the fact that when you click on your own avatar you see a list of your own comments. That’s a very helpful feature.

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    LW August 4, 2012 at 2:51 pm #

    Pluses so far:

    * Threaded comments
    * What I assume are called “votes” — because, hey, validation
    * Avs

    Minuses:

    * No “most recent” in the side bars, as Rickey mentions
    * No auto quoting

    Can I format things?

    Are there smileys? 🙂 😆

    What does it mean to add a picture?

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    LW August 4, 2012 at 2:53 pm #

    Hmm, that might make up for the missing sidebar.

    Testing editing

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    Northland10 August 4, 2012 at 2:57 pm #

    LW:
    Are there smileys? 🙂 😆

    I will miss them if they are not possible, but I think we can vote on comments again.

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    LW August 4, 2012 at 3:02 pm #

    An understandable mistake. You’re thinking of “OPD”, which is an initialism meaning “Officially Pronounced Dead.” The British are given a patch with this on it to wear when they die.

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    Dave B. August 4, 2012 at 3:07 pm #

    Do they put it on before they die, or do they wait til after?

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    Dave B. August 4, 2012 at 3:08 pm #

    The nerve of you already, after we were all so worried about you…

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    LW August 4, 2012 at 3:09 pm #

    Hmm – did Doc just add this? The sidebar now has a box with posts/comments/tag cloud tabs.

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    Reality Check August 5, 2012 at 12:57 pm #

    It changes every time I come back. I guess this is to keep everyone on their toes.

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    justlw August 5, 2012 at 1:02 pm #

    Ack! I’ve become Cathy!

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    Reality Check August 5, 2012 at 1:06 pm #

    It is a tough decision whether to use comment threading or not. I like some threading but if you allow 3 deep threading or more comments can get really skinny and long.

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    Arthur August 5, 2012 at 1:18 pm #

    I much prefer the this (the old) format for comments.

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    Majority Will August 5, 2012 at 1:19 pm #

    Whew. Much better.

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    Greenfinches August 5, 2012 at 1:38 pm #

    what happened – the old method returns!

    Welcomed, as far as I am concerned and sorry if I come across as a stick in the mud

    blame the Olympics? And the shock, as one of ours beats Federer…..!

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    justlw August 5, 2012 at 1:47 pm #

    Dang it. Now if I want to share an image, I have to link to it rather than embedding it.

    Anyway, I think this may be a clever forgery, but I’m not entirely certain. I can’t see any layers.

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    American Mzungu August 5, 2012 at 2:23 pm #

    Doc, any chance you could get the “Obama invents the Telegraph” thread out of the DISQUS mode back into the “old” mode? I’d like to post an update without signing up for DISQUS.

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    Dr. Conspiracy August 5, 2012 at 2:24 pm #

    OK. DISQUS all gone. I did turn on Avatars in WordPress. If you want to customize your Avatar, go to gravatar.com.

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    Dr. Conspiracy August 5, 2012 at 2:28 pm #

    It should be all reverted to old mode now. I cleared the cache that caused some DISQUS to appear on some articles.

    American Mzungu: Doc, any chance you could get the “Obama invents the Telegraph” thread out of the DISQUS mode back into the “old” mode? I’d like to post an update without signing up for DISQUS.

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    donna August 5, 2012 at 2:32 pm #

    DOC: it’s not something that works for me here

    it didn’t work for me either and i’m not averse to change

    thanks doc

    wow – where did that avatar come from?

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    Arthur August 5, 2012 at 2:44 pm #

    Do people get to have an avatar now, or are those things just artifacts of DISQUS? What I mean is, do we get to upload an avatar. Mr. Green Triangle Mustache is nice, but I want to use this cool avatar I made at the South Park site!!!

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    LW August 5, 2012 at 2:51 pm #

    Testing new av… ack, I’m still Cathy. Does it take a while for the gravatar thing to kick in?

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    CarlOrcas August 5, 2012 at 3:08 pm #

    The new Avatars are interesting and, fwiw, it loads and runs a lot faster….especially when editing a previously edited comment.

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    RuhRoh August 5, 2012 at 3:13 pm #

    I would have been quite happy with DISQUS if it had worked. 🙁

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    Dr. Conspiracy August 5, 2012 at 3:13 pm #

    You can set an avatar at gravator.com, or one will be defaulted for you, and kept.

    Arthur:
    Do people get to have an avatar now, or are those things just artifacts of DISQUS? What I mean is, do we get to upload an avatar. Mr. Green Triangle Mustache is nice, but I want to use this cool avatar I made at the South Park site!!!

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    Dr. Conspiracy August 5, 2012 at 3:16 pm #

    I have seen comments to the effect that it can take a few hours. I don’t really know.

    LW: Testing new av… ack, I’m still Cathy. Does it take a while for the gravatar thing to kick in?

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    LW August 5, 2012 at 4:51 pm #

    Aha, I figured out what the problem was — it was my fault. I self-rated my av as “PG,” because of its mild violence.

    Apparently, you and John Woodman both run morally upstanding establishments.

    Once I changed its rating to G, my av started appearing on both of your sites.

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    Keith August 5, 2012 at 5:50 pm #

    I wonder if my Gravatar is working?

    Edit: seems to be!

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    Dr. Conspiracy August 5, 2012 at 6:48 pm #

    Ah right. There is an avatar rating setting in WordPress and mine is set to G. You never know what that guy who visits the Mr. Stiff Porn Surf Engine has for his avatar.

    LW: Apparently, you and John Woodman both run morally upstanding establishments.

    Once I changed its rating to G, my av started appearing on both of your sites.

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    Dr. Conspiracy August 5, 2012 at 6:50 pm #

    My iron lung is working again.

    Keith: Edit: seems to be!

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    LW August 5, 2012 at 6:54 pm #

    It’s just this chromium switch…

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    Thomas Brown August 5, 2012 at 10:13 pm #

    LW:
    It’s just this chromium switch…

    You people are so superstitious!

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    LW August 7, 2012 at 1:07 pm #

    Some scary shit be going on out there:

    How Apple and Amazon Security Flaws Led to My Epic Hacking

    Very quick synopsis: guy (Gizmodo columnist!) gets all his online stuff hacked, hard. They intentionally bricked his iPhone, iPad, and MacBook in the process — as collateral damage…

    …because the only reason they targeted him was not because he was a tech columnist — they had no idea — but someone thought his three-letter Twitter account name was cool, and they wanted to post annoying crap from it. So they took everything else down to keep control of the Twitter account while they did it.

    I’m posting to this thread because as all the changes were going on here, the interconnectedness that things like Disqus and Gravatar necessarily facilitate was brought to the foreground for me. It’s what they do.

    And it makes a hacker’s job a lot easier.

    The bad guys were able to do a lot of what they do because so much of our information is public (scary example: if you’ve got a personalized domain, it’s instant access to your home address.), and it’s easy to figure out relationships from one site to the next.

    But the big hole is that there are so many millions of customers that large companies have to support, there has to be an easy way for them to grant access back to your account if you forget your password. And the information they ask from “you” to do that is scary easy to get.

    In the case this article describes, it turns out that Amazon makes a piece of your ID easy to obtain, which a hacker can then give to Apple to “prove” they’re you. And then the wild rumpus begins.

    This is really sobering stuff.

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    LW August 7, 2012 at 1:20 pm #

    Oops. For the comment in moderation, feel free to change the opening to “Some scary stuff” .