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New Arpaio interview

The RWNJ news program, PolitChicks, published an interview with Sheriff Joe Arpaio, birther conspiracy theorist and self-styled America’s toughest sheriff, in which he talks about the wall of media secrecy surrounding his investigation. Actually, the antics of his Cold Case Posse were widely reported, and their faux investigation roundly criticized for being unprofessional. Unfortunately the media coverage was too kind, ignoring the multiplicity of lies told during Arpaio’s press conferences.

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28 Responses to New Arpaio interview

  1. avatar
    john December 7, 2012 at 10:48 am #

    Sheriff Joe needs make a move on Senators and Congressman to file an objection with the Joint Session of Congress. Once filed, the election 2012 process is HALTED. Congress is LEGALLY RQUIRED to DEBATE the objection. They CANNOT IGNORE IT!

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    Scientist December 7, 2012 at 11:07 am #

    john: Sheriff Joe needs make a move on Senators and Congressman

    He’s 80 years old and not very good looking and you want him to make moves on Senators and Congressmen? I can’t imagine any of either gender or any orientation would really go for Joe.

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    realist December 7, 2012 at 11:16 am #

    john:
    Sheriff Joe needsmake a move on Senators and Congressman to file an objection with the Joint Session of Congress.Once filed, the election 2012 process is HALTED.Congress is LEGALLY RQUIRED to DEBATE the objection.They CANNOT IGNORE IT!

    And they’ll be out for a short while, have a cup of coffee, then they will overrule the objections and the process will continue with the electoral votes being certified and Obama will be inaugurated and will begin serving his second term.

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    Scientist December 7, 2012 at 11:18 am #

    Silly me, I thought that when the cops have evidence of a crime, they are supposed to make an arrest and turn the evidence over to the DA to prosecute. Apparently, Arpaio believes that the media are the leading party in the criminal justice system.

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    Thrifty December 7, 2012 at 11:19 am #

    John,

    It has been explained to you numerous times why it is not as simple as this. Filing an objection to a presidential vote count is not like flipping over the chessboard when your opponent is a move away from checkmating you. You don’t automatically win just because you said “objection”. They have to have an actual DEBATE. It’s a debate that the objectors would lose, and it’d cost them dearly politically. To go back to my chess metaphor, what you propose is more akin to stabbing yourself in the leg, only to have your opponent take a picture of the chess board so you can both finish up after you get back from the hospital.

    You’re really better off trying to get faithless electors. You just need to convince a mere 64 electors to switch sides. Just 64! I mean, sure, getting 1 is virtually impossible, but Birthers have had stupider ideas.

    john:
    Sheriff Joe needsmake a move on Senators and Congressman to file an objection with the Joint Session of Congress.Once filed, the election 2012 process is HALTED.Congress is LEGALLY RQUIRED to DEBATE the objection.They CANNOT IGNORE IT!

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    Thrifty December 7, 2012 at 11:46 am #

    Scientist:
    Silly me, I thought that when the cops have evidence of a crime, they are supposed to make an arrest and turn the evidence over to the DA to prosecute.Apparently, Arpaio believes that the media are the leading party in the criminal justice system.

    I think that was part of the tagline to a Law and Order spinoff called Law and Order: Special Birthers Unit.

    “In the Birtherverse Criminal Justice System, the people are represented by three separate but equally important factions: the police who investigate crimes, the Citizen Grand Juries who prosecute but never get to punish the offenders, and the media who ridicule the stupidity of the entire process.

    These are their stories.

    *DOINK DOINK*”

    The scene. Two men are walking along the streets of Phoenix.
    Man 1: “So my beeper selling business is about to go under. Do you think maybe it’s because it’s 2012 and nobody uses beepers any more and we’re in a lousy economy?”
    Man 2: “No. It’s probably because of Obamacare.”
    Man 1: “Damn that Obama! What’s a guy with a funny name and dark skin doing in the WHITE House?”
    Man 2: “I heard he was born in Kenya. If we can prove that, he’ll be forced out and Glen Beck gets to be president. That’s what the Constitution says.”
    Man 1: “I’ve never seen his preschool records. That means he’s hiding something!”
    Man 2: “We’d better call the Sheriff!”

    *credits roll*

    *DOINK DOINK*

    Joe Arpaio stands in front of a small crowd of reporters.
    Arpaio: “So as you can see, the stamp on the President’s Selective Service application is slightly faded, and somebody who didn’t know him very well once said, a few decades ago, that he was born in Kenya. Also the PDF of the long form birth certificate has either too many layers or not enough, we’re not sure which one it is this week. Either way, that all means it’s a forgery.”
    Reporter: “How does a slightly faded stamp on a 30 year old draft registration card prove forgery?”
    Arpaio: “It’s clearly forgery. Everybody knows that our incompetent, stupid, inefficient, federal government always gets its minor clerical works perfect. Anything less is an obvious sign of forgery.”
    Reporter: “Why would the president need to forge a draft card in the late 1970s when there wasn’t any sort of war going on?”
    Arpaio: “Shut up is why!”

    *DOINK DOINK*

    Cut to a scene after the press conference. The two men from before are standing with Sheriff Arpaio

    Man 1: “Well that was damning evidence against that black man in the White House. We can get rid of him and all those Obots who call us racist because they’re too stupid to debate us!”
    Man 2: “Yeah. So now what? We take this to the Attorney General?”
    Arpaio: “No time for that. Just convene a Citizen Grand Jury with a bunch of other guys like you, hand down some indictments, and I’ll hold a few more press conferences. You can make robes out of bedsheets and use this mallet from my great-grandson’s toy box.”

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG December 7, 2012 at 11:56 am #

    john:
    Sheriff Joe needsmake a move on Senators and Congressman to file an objection with the Joint Session of Congress.Once filed, the election 2012 process is HALTED.Congress is LEGALLY RQUIRED to DEBATE the objection.They CANNOT IGNORE IT!

    *Swivels around in chair, petting a white cat*
    Sorry John, but no amount of sore losering in the world can save you now. This time next year, we’ll have you all rounded up and put into FEMA death camps on the moon. Mwahahahahaha!

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    donna December 7, 2012 at 11:58 am #

    arpaio is “disappointed” At Lack Of Protests Against Him in san francisco

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/07/joe-arpaio-san-francisco_n_2257510.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

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    Sudoku December 7, 2012 at 12:02 pm #

    I think Arpaio always wanted to try this in the court of public opinion, hoping for a big score. No evidence, no case, but he was so looking forward to his parade…

    Scientist:
    Silly me, I thought that when the cops have evidence of a crime, they are supposed to make an arrest and turn the evidence over to the DA to prosecute.Apparently, Arpaio believes that the media are the leading party in the criminal justice system.

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    Scientist December 7, 2012 at 12:06 pm #

    Thrifty: In the Birtherverse Criminal Justice System, the people are represented by three separate but equally important factions: the police who investigate crimes, the Citizen Grand Juries who prosecute but never get to punish the offenders, and the media who ridicule the stupidity of the entire process.

    That’s brilliant!! However, we need to add a 4th faction-idoitic, incompetent attoneys who file endless, worthless lawsuits and continue doing so long after anyone cares.

    DOINK DOINK

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    Scientist December 7, 2012 at 12:09 pm #

    john: Congress is LEGALLY RQUIRED to DEBATE the objection.

    john, would you be so kind as to link to a trancript of the debate that took place over the objection to the Ohio results in 2004. Thanks,

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    Xyxox December 7, 2012 at 12:11 pm #

    Thrifty:

    You’re really better off trying to get faithless electors.You just need to convince a mere 64 electors to switch sides.Just 64!I mean, sure, getting 1 is virtually impossible, but Birthers have had stupider ideas.

    What’s funny is it is far more likely there will be faithless electors changing from Romney to Ron Paul than anything else this year since several of the electors are Ron Paul supporters from states with no laws against being faithless electors.

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    Thrifty December 7, 2012 at 12:12 pm #

    Scientist: That’s brilliant!! However, we need to add a 4th faction-idoitic, incompetent attoneys who file endless, worthless lawsuits and continue doing so long after anyone cares.

    DOINK DOINK

    No, they’re part of the Citizen Grand Juries. But the nice part there is that you don’t have to be a lawyer. All you have to do is wear a nice suit. Ostentatious hats are encouraged, but optional.

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    aarrgghh December 7, 2012 at 1:00 pm #

    aw, c’mon guys, shurf joe just wants one leetle ol’ hearing, all legal like … just to clear the usurper’s name. then we can all go home … which means the usurper gets to go back to kenya and we can just forget about everything he’s been doin’ in our white house (which probably needs a good fumigatin’) and everybody’s happy. you’d think joe was asking for a coup or somethin’.

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    gorefan December 7, 2012 at 1:50 pm #

    john:
    Sheriff Joe needsmake a move on Senators and Congressman to file an objection with the Joint Session of Congress.Once filed, the election 2012 process is HALTED.Congress is LEGALLY RQUIRED to DEBATE the objection.They CANNOT IGNORE IT!

    The debate is in private and both the Senate and the House have to agree to reject the vote. That’s what happened in 2004.

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    Thrifty December 7, 2012 at 2:31 pm #

    john:
    Sheriff Joe needsmake a move on Senators and Congressman to file an objection with the Joint Session of Congress.Once filed, the election 2012 process is HALTED.Congress is LEGALLY RQUIRED to DEBATE the objection.They CANNOT IGNORE IT!

    Wait I think I see what’s happening here.

    John, like a lot of Birthers, harps on a lot about how the courts are ignoring the eligibility issue. In reality, they haven’t ignored anything; they’ve just looked at the issue and ruled against it.

    John is technically correct as far as I know. If one Congressman and one Senator object, then the Congress as a whole has to address that in some way, shape, or form.

    Since “rule against me” = “ignore”, then logically “don’t ignore” = “I win”. Since Congress would not completely brush off the issue, John’s tortured logic seems to think that this assures a victory, since the only viable answers to birther questions are “ignore” and “win”.

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    Joey December 7, 2012 at 3:27 pm #

    In 2008, the President of the Senate, Dick Cheney didn’t ask if there were any objections to the certification of the votes of the Electors and the vote continued uninterrupted. In 2012, Joe Biden will be the presiding officer as President of the Seante.

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    misha marinsky December 7, 2012 at 3:29 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: This time next year, we’ll have you all rounded up and put into FEMA death camps on the moon.

    Thanks for spilling the beans. Not.

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG December 7, 2012 at 3:33 pm #

    Joe’s age got me thinking about something.
    On the way to Waynesville Missouri, there is a bridge dedicated to the highway patrol officer who lost his life there, in the line of duty. He wasn’t even 25 years old. Then we have people like Joe Arpaio, useless cowards who live to 80.

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    Reality Check December 7, 2012 at 4:32 pm #

    I don’t think that is correct. What VP Cheney said was “without objection, … ” and then moved on to the counting of the ballots. Since objections have to be submitted in writing and signed by one member each of the House and Senate Cheney would have known that there were no objections. Birthers made a huge deal out of this even to the point that Kerchner and Apuzzo I believe included Cheney as a defendant in their lawsuit in 2009.

    If anyone did want to object they could have still raised a point of order and filed an objection. Of course no one objected because there were no grounds to raise an objection. There will no be an objection this time either.

    Joey:
    In 2008, the President of the Senate, Dick Cheney didn’t ask if there were any objections to the certification of the votes of the Electors and the vote continued uninterrupted. In 2012, Joe Biden will be the presiding officer as President of the Seante.

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    CarlOrcas December 7, 2012 at 4:57 pm #

    john:
    Sheriff Joe needsmake a move on Senators and Congressman to file an objection with the Joint Session of Congress.Once filed, the election 2012 process is HALTED.Congress is LEGALLY RQUIRED to DEBATE the objection.They CANNOT IGNORE IT!

    Arpaio doesn’t have any more standing to file an objection than you do, John.

    Have you taken the case to your Congressperson, your Senators? If not….why not?

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    J.D. Reed December 7, 2012 at 5:11 pm #

    John must think his overheated capitalization of words might compel members to seriously contemplate what they are, in the real world, sure to brush aside quickly even if some fringe lawmaker wants to make an issue of this.

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    Agreeable December 7, 2012 at 7:42 pm #

    He should, he really should. And Congress should, too. Yes, please.

    May I suggest he march on DC with you and whoever else you can get, while you all are wearing pink underwear? You’ll get a lot of news coverage. They won’t ignore you.

    john:
    Sheriff Joe needsmake a move on Senators and Congressman to file an objection with the Joint Session of Congress.Once filed, the election 2012 process is HALTED.Congress is LEGALLY RQUIRED to DEBATE the objection.They CANNOT IGNORE IT!

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    Thomas Brown December 7, 2012 at 10:15 pm #

    “Congress is LEGALLY RQUIRED to DEBATE the objection.They CANNOT IGNORE IT!”

    Sure they can. Just like we ignore dim-witted asshats who think they’re Constitutional scholars but can’t even write a whole sentence spelled correctly!

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    Reality Check December 8, 2012 at 9:09 am #

    Gee, I offered Mike Zullo a full two hour spot on my radio show and he was willing to come on until puppet-master Corsi said he could not. Why are they bitching about the media ignoring them?

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    Tarrant December 8, 2012 at 10:55 am #

    Butterdezillion, like john here, also likes to say that Cheney not calling for objections is some sort of awful crime, and that there were people who would have objected had they been called for, but that Cheney knew that so he skipped that part.

    And of course, those people decided to just shut up about it, not call for a point of order, not go to a microphone afterward, nothing. Just say “Oh well, I guess usurper” and carry on as if nothing happened.

    If anyone really had planned to object, and believed they were ignored, I guarantee you – these are politicians after all – they’d have been at a microphone immediately after saying so. Who knows – had a Representative/Senator pair, immediately following the certification, filed a lawsuit showing the text of their objection and saying that they were waiting for Cheney to call because they didn’t know when to object and then it was over, they might have at least gotten a hearing.

    But no, in butter’s world, Cheney not calling meant everyone knew there was a Conspiracy and thus they kept quiet, but that it didn’t matter because him not calling for them meant everything that happened from then onward was void (heh).

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    jayHG December 9, 2012 at 12:22 am #

    Tarrant:
    Butterdezillion, like john here, also likes to say that Cheney not calling for objections is some sort of awful crime, and that there were people who would have objected had they been called for, but that Cheney knew that so he skipped that part.

    And of course, those people decided to just shut up about it, not call for a point of order, not go to a microphone afterward, nothing. Just say “Oh well, I guess usurper” and carry on as if nothing happened.

    If anyone really had planned to object, and believed they were ignored, I guarantee you – these are politicians after all – they’d have been at a microphone immediately after saying so. Who knows – had a Representative/Senator pair, immediately following the certification, filed a lawsuit showing the text of their objection and saying that they were waiting for Cheney to call because they didn’t know when to object and then it was over, they might have at least gotten a hearing.

    But no, in butter’s world, Cheney not calling meant everyone knew there was a Conspiracy and thus they kept quiet, but that it didn’t matter because him not calling for them meant everything that happened from then onward was void (heh).

    Butterdezillion is crazy…seriously.

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    Yoda December 9, 2012 at 6:09 pm #

    Reality Check:
    Gee, I offered Mike Zullo a full two hour spot on my radio show and he was willing to come on until puppet-master Corsi said he could not. Why are they bitching about the media ignoring them?

    I would love the opportunity to cross examine him. I doubt he would last ten minutes before whining about the questions.

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