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Is Orly Taitz stalking Vogt’s Jane Doe #2?

While I have made some effort to keep people who want to remain private out of the public spotlight, Orly Taitz has no such concept. I vented my anger at Taitz over this back in 2009 in an article at Obots.org titled “Orly makes child sacrifice to get Obama.” She regularly sprays mud on innocent people and she’s digging again with an article titled (Orly writes her articles in the title) :

Your help is needed. Please, advise, whether the woman under #61 is [redacted], aka [redacted], whose alleged long form Hawaiian BC was published 1 month before Obama’s in 2011. I need to know, which school did she attend, what is her work history. Johanna is a friend of Miki Booth from HI

[link to Taitz web site – caution, there is a fake Firefox update popup if you linger too long on the Taitz site. Close the tab; don’t click OK!]

In a comment [link to unredacted version at archive.org] on this blog, Orly Taitz introduced the concept that this is a forgery back on July 28, 2012, and states that she personally met the certificate holder (whose first name she give), thereby confirming one more clue that this is Douglas Vogt’s Jane Doe #2 (Taitz said on her blog that she had met Jane Doe #2). Here is the redacted comment:

I normally do not post on obot cites, but this issue is important. I know this woman, I met her. I will not post her last name in order not to identify her, but I will post only her first name, which is common and in order for the author of this article to be sure that I know who she is. Her name is [redacted], she and her niece or maybe it was her grand-niece met me when I came to HI. I am extremely suspicious of this woman and her certificate. I believe her certificate was a dry run by the forger to see if “his work of art” will fly. Either this woman is complicit or was manipulated and used as a tool. She was supposed to go with me to the Health department, but changed her mind the last moment. It was suspicious that she got a long form copy, when it was denied to others. Also, I might disagree with Jerome Corsi on other issues, but it is not true that he has the only copy of her birth certificate. [redacted] sent a copy to me as well.
With or without her birth certificate and numbering there is sufficient evidence for criminal prosecution of Obama and his accomplices for use of a forged birth certificate, forged selective service certificate and a stolen Social Security number. The man belongs in prison for the rest of his life. The same goes for his accomplices who were complicit in treason in aiding and abetting a foreign national with all forged IDs to usurp the US presidency .

The birth certificate pictured by Taitz now in its full and unredacted glory in a PDF file created May 4, 2011, is the same one published redacted by Jerome Corsi at WorldNetDaily the following September 11. Corsi said in his article that it was “authentic.” In this rare instance I agree with Corsi. He further wrote:

A professional typographer with 50 years experience in the business [Paul Irey] has confirmed that the typeface in an authentic Hawaii Department of Health long-form birth certificate issued in 1961 is consistent….

“Obtaining an authentic Obama-era birth certificate from Hawaii was also difficult because most people do not want to publicize their birth certificate on line for all to see,” Irey acknowledged.

The certificate is interesting for several reasons (and you will have to go to Orly’s web site to see it because it violates my privacy rule):

  1. The certificate number blows apart the various arguments birthers make about Obama’s certificate having an out of sequence certificate number. In fact it makes Vogt’s sequence number point of forgery look foolish (Vogt doubles down and calls this certificate a forgery, too). Corsi knew this since at least 2011, but didn’t disclose it.
  2. The certificate blows apart the Cold Case Posse’s fake race code scheme.  Corsi knew this since at least 2011, but didn’t disclose it.
  3. The PDF file on the Taitz web site has layers! The certificate was scanned on a Canon scanner, and the software separated the text from the background.

I believe that the certificate is that of the innocent person identified by Vogt as Jane Doe #2, and that her friend from  Hawaii is the innocent person identified by Vogt as Jane Doe #1.

When Jerome Corsi published the certificate, he blanked out the identifying information, and the part that proved the Cold Case Posse race codes a lie, and the part showing the certificate numbering objection was a lie. Nevertheless, Corsi published an image of the back of this certificate with faint shadows bleeding through from the front. With just this and some Internet searching, John Woodman was able to read most of the certificate! The publication of this unredacted certificate shows how marvelously accurate Woodman was (both in public and in private). For reference, here are two of John’s public articles on the certificate:


1The “#6” refers to a group school photo showing Obama and other unidentified numbered individuals at Kerchner’s blog. If she wants the photo identified, why doesn’t she just ask Miki Booth, or has she burned that bridge? Publishing a birth certificate and trying to identify a photo sounds like stalking to me.

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23 Responses to Orly got layers; Woodman correct as usual

  1. avatar
    nbc December 11, 2013 at 3:39 pm #

    Orly release [redacted]‘s LFBC as PDF which contains three layers for page 1

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Johanna-BC.pdf

    A color foreground and two B&W backgrounds…

    Such a fail…

    Thanks Orly… Will report on this on my site asap…

    And yes, they are also rotated but the jpeg has a Canon Inc comment and the quantization matrices do not match.

    Totally hilarious…

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    nbc December 11, 2013 at 4:17 pm #

    My findings on Orly’s pdf. Sorry Doc, will no longer use the actual name, although the PDF shows the name unmasked. What to do…? Suggestions?

  3. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 11, 2013 at 4:40 pm #

    It’s a mess and I have no suggestions. I may be clutching at a straw while the entire haystack blows away.

    nbc: My findings on Orly’s pdf. Sorry Doc, will no longer use the actual name, although the PDF shows the name unmasked. What to do…? Suggestions?

  4. avatar
    sactosintolerant December 11, 2013 at 5:36 pm #

    “Chief Reefer” sounds like a fun job.

  5. avatar
    nbc December 11, 2013 at 5:53 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: It’s a mess and I have no suggestions. I may be clutching at a straw while the entire haystack blows away.

    Yeah, well xxxx contacted Miki and also Orly and others, so perhaps that will help resolving this mess.

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    justlw December 11, 2013 at 5:56 pm #

    Orly’s site appears to be overloaded, or underbrained, or something.

  7. avatar
    The European December 11, 2013 at 6:25 pm #

    Have you guys already done your homework and called:

    /quote
    I need your help in calling the DC court and demanding to docket my motion to recuse Judge Lamberth, which was sent to the court on 12.02.2013 and was received by cert. mail. This appear to be the same pattern of sabotage nd tampering with my cases by the clerks of the cort in order to aid and abet Obama in theft of the US Presidency with stolen and fabricated IDs. Call 202-354-3080 202-354-3118, 202-354-3192

    Posted on | December 11, 2013 | 1 Comment

    /endquote

    PLease do not forget to mention that you call on behalf and order of Dr. Orly Taitz Esq., an officer of the court.

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    gorefan December 11, 2013 at 8:51 pm #

    When Vogt’s affidavit first came out didn’t Orly say that she had met Jane Doe #2 which led people to speculate that she meant Jill Nagamine?

    When did she meet this other person?

  9. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 11, 2013 at 9:03 pm #

    The links to Woodman’s articles have been fixed.

  10. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 11, 2013 at 9:06 pm #

    Probably Jane Doe #1 works better for the one Orly met, but she could have met the other. If so, then it raises some questions about the story that people are telling (and I am being intentionally vague, I know).

    I should add that it is probably more than we should expect for Taitz to keep the numbers 1 and 2 straight.

    gorefan: When Vogt’s affidavit first came out didn’t Orly say that she had met Jane Doe #2 which led people to speculate that she meant Jill Nagamine?

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    Slartibartfast December 11, 2013 at 9:23 pm #

    Well, at least your vagueness to protect people’s identities is better than birther vagueness to protect their incomes of birther bux…

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Probably Jane Doe #1 works better for the one Orly met, but she could have met the other. If so, then it raises some questions about the story that people are telling (and I am being intentionally vague, I know).

  12. avatar
    Dave December 11, 2013 at 10:06 pm #

    I don’t get how Taitz got her hands on the unredacted image. Who gave it to her?

  13. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 11, 2013 at 10:10 pm #

    I presume from Miki Booth. She knows both parties.

    My surmise is that Jane Doe #2 scanned her certificate and sent the PDF to Miki Booth in May of 2011, a week after Obama released his birth certificate. Later on Jane Doe #2 was persuaded to send the paper copy to Jerome Corsi who released a redacted version. Nothing suggests when Booth might have sent the PDF to Taitz–it could have been back in 2011 or just recently, or any time in between.

    Dave: I don’t get how Taitz got her hands on the unredacted image. Who gave it to her?

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    gorefan December 11, 2013 at 10:42 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: I presume from Miki Booth.

    AnitaMaria pointed to this artcle:

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/07/1961-hawaii-race-codes-disclosed/#comment-203921

    Orly showed up in the comments and explained the BC.

  15. avatar
    nbc December 12, 2013 at 12:26 am #

    The birthers at her site are totally clueless

    Whoever gave you this PDF also created the White House PDF. Open this PDF in Adobe Illustrator and it has the same type of layers as the White House (8-bit and 1-bit layers) there are also multiple sized pixels. And in illustrator it is sideways.

    Nope they are very different… Geez can these fools not even do proper research and yet they are quick to jump to foolish conclusions.

    Disgusting,

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    nbc December 12, 2013 at 12:31 am #

    Dave: I don’t get how Taitz got her hands on the unredacted image. Who gave it to her?

    There has been a few birthers who seem to have been aware of the documents Miki obtained through her friend.

    1. 1995 LFBC of xxxx’s birth in 1961
    2. 2011 LFBC of xxxx’s child’s birth in 1995

    The latter one shows THX and a hint of a smiley face. All we need is higher resolution.

    Of course now Vogt thinks this may be the forger and Orly and especially Miki have some explaining to do.

    Orly sometimes appears to be working against the birthers… or her own best interest… Fascinating… Is she Soros’s super sekrit mole?

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    Lupin December 12, 2013 at 3:39 am #

    So we have proof (as if we needed it) that:

    – Corsi is a crook

    – Vogt is crazy

    – Taitz is an idiot

    Not bad for a day’s work; bravo, doc!

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    Curious George December 12, 2013 at 5:50 am #

    “I believe that the certificate is that of the innocent person identified by Vogt as Jane Doe #2, and that her friend from Hawaii is the innocent person identified by Vogt as Jane Doe #1.”

    Rabid Birthers who read this may suspect that you’re trying to protect the alleged spy and the alleged forger. I know you’re walking a fine line. But you know how Birthers can go off half-cocked. Vogt obviously would not agree with the term, “innocent.” How could Corsi and Vogt be at such polar opposites on this? One says forgery, one says authentic. Birthers never cease to amaze me.

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    Publius December 12, 2013 at 8:08 am #

    Lupin: So we have proof (as if we needed it) that:

    – Corsi is a crook

    – Vogt is crazy

    – Taitz is an idiot

    Not bad for a day’s work; bravo, doc!

    Whether you call it “proof” or not, I would think we’ve had some good evidence for that for a while now.

  20. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 12, 2013 at 8:09 am #

    Birthers are opportunistic feeders of “evidence.”

    Curious George: How could Corsi and Vogt be at such polar opposites on this? One says forgery, one says authentic. Birthers never cease to amaze me.

  21. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 12, 2013 at 8:39 am #

    Please see update to article with this new information.

    gorefan: AnitaMaria pointed to this artcle:

  22. avatar
    nbc December 12, 2013 at 12:28 pm #

    Orly released a document that now shows how clueless these ‘investigators’ really are. Soros will be proud of her :-)

  23. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 12, 2013 at 3:16 pm #

    More details from Taitz about Jane Doe # 1 and #2, and her birth certificate.

    Link to Taitz web site.