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Unclean hands

The Wikipedia says:

Unclean hands, sometimes called the clean hands doctrine or the dirty hands doctrine is an equitable defense in which the defendant argues that the plaintiff is not entitled to obtain an equitable remedy because the plaintiff is acting unethically or has acted in bad faith with respect to the subject of the complaint—that is, with “unclean hands”. The defendant has the burden of proof to show the plaintiff is not acting in good faith. The doctrine is often stated as “those seeking equity must do equity” or “equity must come with clean hands”.

The Bible has Jesus approach this from another direction:

Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.

John 8:7b ESV

copyrightSo where are my stones aimed? They’re aimed at Orly Taitz for copyright violation. I try to stick to fair use of copyrighted text on this site, but I am not as careful about images (such as the one at the right). What I wouldn’t do is just insert somebody else’s copyrighted article like Orly Taitz often does, and did yesterday [link to Taitz web site] with an article and photo from the New York Times about a shooting in the Bronx in August, 2011. (I ratted her out to the Times. :evil: )

But why is Taitz interested in a two-year-old random act of gun violence? It appears that she’s interested because the article mentions Daly Avenue, and that’s the street where Harry S. Bounel (or some variation thereof) lived way back in 1940. Do you see the connection? Let me explain it to you. If one submits “Daly Avenue” “New York” to a search engine, this article pops up, and pasting the whole article found is a low-cost way to produce well-written web content, albeit not ethically.

“How far is corner of 181 Str. and Daly Ave  from 915 Daly were Bounel lived?” Taitz asks, and in monumental understatement adds: “This is probably not related to Bounel case,” which begs the question of why she bothered to post the article in the first place.

Ah, but the plot thickens. One commenter on the Taitz site opined that the census address for Bounel is wrong, that it really should be “1915” instead of “915.” Taitz has one other piece of “information” from an undisclosed source, Bounel was Jewish.

The investigation continues.

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15 Responses to Unclean hands

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    CarlOrcas December 30, 2013 at 4:11 pm #

    When I first saw it on her website this morning I thought someone was punking her. The woman is amazing.

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    Rickey December 30, 2013 at 6:52 pm #

    915 Daly Avenue is a non-existent address in the Bronx. Bounel probably lived at 915 E. Tremont Avenue, which is on the corner of Daly Avenue and E. Tremont Avenue. There is an entrance to the building on Daly Avenue, so the census taker likely just made a mistake about the address. In case Orly is reading this, it’s six blocks south of E. 181st Street.

    1915 Daly Avenue is vacant land owned by St. Thomas Aquinas School. Of course, that doesn’t rule out the possibility that there was a building at that address in 1940.

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    JPotter December 30, 2013 at 8:17 pm #

    Makes me wonder what kind google alerts she has set LOL

    A/o picture her desperately, spastically, obsessively googling a series of terms, looking for anything that tickles her feverish patternizer node.

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    CarlOrcas December 30, 2013 at 8:56 pm #

    JPotter:
    Makes me wonder what kind google alerts she has set LOL

    A/o picture her desperately, spastically, obsessively googling a series of terms, looking for anything that tickles her feverish patternizer node.

    Assuming she still practices dentistry every once in a while I have a vision of her in the procedure room with some poor patient, mouth agape, stretched out flat when she jumps up and announces she has to check on where Harrison Whoever lived 70 years ago!

    Scary.

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    Northland10 December 30, 2013 at 9:47 pm #

    Rickey:
    915 Daly Avenue is a non-existent address in the Bronx. Bounel probably lived at 915 E. Tremont Avenue, which is on the corner of Daly Avenue and E. Tremont Avenue. There is an entrance to the building on Daly Avenue, so the census taker likely just made a mistake about the address. In case Orly is reading this, it’s six blocks south of E. 181st Street.

    1915 Daly Avenue is vacant land owned by St. Thomas Aquinas School. Of course, that doesn’t rule out the possibility that there was a building at that address in 1940.

    In the early part of the 20th Century, there were various voters and others registered at the 1915 address, according to Google Books (including a Rabbi in the early 20’s). The school also had that same address in the same time period.

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    slash2k December 30, 2013 at 11:27 pm #

    The New York Public Library’s map collection has digitized a 1921 atlas of the Bronx that shows a building, probably an apartment from its shape, at 1915 Daly, immediately adjacent to St. Thomas Aquinas church and school. http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/dgkeysearchdetail.cfm?trg=1&strucID=847564&imageID=1533015&total=88&num=40&parent_id=847507&s=&notword=&d=&c=&f=&k=1&sScope=&sLevel=&sLabel=&lword=&lfield=&sort=&imgs=20&pos=55&snum=&e=w

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    JPotter December 30, 2013 at 11:34 pm #

    Northland10: In the early part of the 20th Century, there were various voters and others registered at the 1915 address,

    I heard an (apocryphal?) anecdote a while back about someone getting incensed about numerous women all registered to vote at the same address, that turned out to be a convent. Sounds like an urban legend or a reverse-engineered, manufactured ‘surprise’ … but while looking that up, I came across this USA today bit from last Feb …

    Ohio nun suspected of casting vote for dead friend

    Considering the “Related story” (“Voting issues surface in battleground states“, a post-election piece), the payoff is the last sentence:

    “Overall, the board is examining about 20 allegations of possible vote fraud, roughly one-fourth of the cases initially reviewed. While that number is miniscule compared with the nearly 422,000 votes cast countywide last fall, it is sizable in terms of vote fraud.”

    You kow, if we look hard enough and long enough, we’ll find that massive voter fraud …. somewhere!

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    Dr Kenneth noisewater December 30, 2013 at 11:58 pm #

    Wow she really is tone deaf. So she believes it should be 1915 and the census taker made an error but somehow believes an 1890 date on an entry for Obama must be totally correct?

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    Rickey December 31, 2013 at 1:08 am #

    1915 Daly Avenue may well have been a convent at one time. It looks like it’s used as a parking lot now. When I attended parochial school the convent was next door to the school. Many convents have been disbanded and torn down as the number of nuns has diminished.

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    Notorial Dissent December 31, 2013 at 6:58 am #

    One of the true pitfalls of hitching your birther star to a census entry, is that they are demonstrably and proven prone to error and full of mistakes. If it isn’t the poor handwriting of the taker, it is other mistakes and errors that creep in. They are a good place, some times place of last resort, to start, but they are usually not a dead certainty. There should be other, and better, sources of information as to who was living there in the 1940’s, but Orly is too lazy and too incompetent to find it, and most likely won’t make the attempt since it will most likely refute her latest nitrous dreams.

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    Bob December 31, 2013 at 12:12 pm #

    Of all the ridiculous notions Orly has gotten in her troubled mind since Obama was sworn in this Bounel-thingy has to be the stupidest, most farfetched of them all. The horse died when the Social Security Administration told her they have no record of any “Bounel” but yet she keeps flogging it. Her other weird fantasies come and go but this one she hangs on to for some reason.

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    JPotter December 31, 2013 at 12:25 pm #

    Bob: Of all the ridiculous notions Orly has gotten in her troubled mind since Obama was sworn in this Bounel-thingy has to be the stupidest, most farfetched of them all.

    At least it keeps her confined to a throughly dead, dead end, rather than pestering the living.

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    gorefan December 31, 2013 at 1:33 pm #

    Bob: this one she hangs on to for some reason.

    Probably because it is the only way for her to keep the Connecticut SSN thing going.

    When Susan Daniels tried to convince the Ohio SoS that the Connecticut SSN meant something, he responded that the only name attached to that SSN is President Obama’s. Orly may figure she needs a name to go with the SSN claim.

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    Rickey December 31, 2013 at 11:51 pm #

    Bob:
    Of all the ridiculous notions Orly has gotten in her troubled mind since Obama was sworn in this Bounel-thingy has to be the stupidest, most farfetched of them all.The horse died when the Social Security Administration told her they have no record of any “Bounel” but yet she keeps flogging it.Her other weird fantasies come and go but this one she hangs on to for some reason.

    Orly’s requests are invariably either too broad or too narrow. In this case, her requests were too narrow. She assumed that Harry Bounel had Obama’s SSN and she assumed that Bounel was born in 1890.But he obviously never had Obama’s SSN and even if the census is correct he could have been born in 1889.

    She should have asked for the Social Security records of anyone named Bounel who was born in 1889 or 1890. That would not have gotten her what she wants, but it might have gotten her something.

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    Rickey January 1, 2014 at 8:11 pm #

    Sort of apropos to the Bounel mystery is this story about the GAO finding problems with the Social Security Death Index:

    http://www.individual.com/storyrss.php?story=186389972&hash=42111f8ec8ada7c2897bcc18fae49e5c