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Orly Taitz: Who the hell does she think she is?

The excesses of Orly Taitz

Orly Taitz: I have an urgent petition to bring before the court.
Judge: The clerk will file the petition with the other urgent Taitz petitions.
Taitz: But your honor, this is an emergency.
Judge: The clerk will file the petition with all the other emergency Taitz petitions.
Taitz: Your honor, you don’t understand. This is of universe-shattering extreme importance.
Judge: The clerk will file the petition with all the other universe-shattering Taitz petitions of extreme importance.
Taitz: But, but, but …
Judge: The clerk will please hand Ms. Taitz the court’s thesaurus.

In this instance, we’re at the opening emergency stage. Taitz says that she filed suit in the US District Court in Honolulu to prevent the cremation of Hawaii Department of Health director Loretta Fuddy, who died earlier this week in a small plane crash. (I was not able to confirm the filing on the US District Court CM/ECF system.)

Who does the hell does think she is?

Taitz is not family, nor law enforcement. She’s not the owner of the aviation company, the FAA or anybody with a personal interest in Fuddy’s unfortunate death. Taitz is exactly nobody, representing no one but herself, and her petition [PDF at Taitz web site] will go exactly nowhere, whether the it’s 1 page or 64.

Somehow having filed birther lawsuits makes Taitz think she has some special privilege. Here she makes this plain:

… Taitz is a plaintiff and co-plaintiff in a nuber (sic) of legal actions. One of such actions is in the state of MS, where deceased Loretta Fuddy was a defendant until the day of her death.

Taitz then goes on do detail other lawsuits of which she (but not Fuddy) is a party. Previously Taitz believed her status as a plaintiff bestowed on her extensive supra-governmental privileges such she stated back in 2010:

“I am uniquely the person to exercise moral power above government, as in Queen of England.”

Sorry, the stricken text was  an April Fools joke.

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61 Responses to Orly Taitz: Who the hell does she think she is?

  1. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG December 20, 2013 at 1:50 pm #

    I’m suffering mental and emotional anguish that Orly Taitz is considered a part of my species. I wonder if I can sue to have her re-classed as some kind of cockroach. Those are legal to stomp into non-existence.

  2. avatar
    nbc December 20, 2013 at 1:54 pm #

    It’s 64 pages… Wow, she does not need any help when filing her failings… But what a despicable person. I hope that the family sues her for intentional infliction of emotional distress.

    I could handle her follies in trying to file or argue legal matters, however this goes beyond decency…

    Is she involved in some kind of ‘performance art’? She released xxxx’s long form birth certificate, destroying much of what Vogt and the CCP have been saying, and then she redirects the birthers’ attention to a non issue in Hawaii.

    Soros could not pay her enough for her services rendered so far. ;-)

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    CarlOrcas December 20, 2013 at 1:55 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG:
    I’m suffering mental and emotional anguish that Orly Taitz is considered a part of my species. I wonder if I can sue to have her re-classed as some kind of cockroach. Those are legal to stomp into non-existence.

    Let us hope she doesn’t have the survivability (metaphorically speaking) of cockroaches.

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    Dave December 20, 2013 at 2:07 pm #

    Over the years Taitz has been to me just a source of amusement — but harassing people who are dealing with the untimely death of a loved one, that is just despicable. I fear they will feel the need to hire a lawyer to deal with her stupid petition, which is a hassle they really don’t need right now.

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    nbc December 20, 2013 at 2:13 pm #

    Dave: Over the years Taitz has been to me just a source of amusement — but harassing people who are dealing with the untimely death of a loved one, that is just despicable. I fear they will feel the need to hire a lawyer to deal with her stupid petition, which is a hassle they really don’t need right now.

    They don’t need it, don’t deserve it and I hope that said lawyer will quickly file the appropriate counter suit. Orly may believe that this will grant her standing for discovery but she will find out the hard way how a legal system works and how a capable lawyer can effectively use the system for what it was designed.

    Would Orly defend herself? I hope the court holds some oral hearings first, in person… Just a believer in Karma points…

  6. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 20, 2013 at 2:49 pm #

    Page 54 is the 64th page in the document. :shock:

    nbc: It’s 64 pages

  7. avatar
    Slartibartfast December 20, 2013 at 3:13 pm #

    It’s things like this that make me wish the time bomb in Mississippi would go off…

    Any. Day. Now.

  8. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 20, 2013 at 4:40 pm #

    August 30, 2014. You heard it here first.

    Slartibartfast: Any. Day. Now.

  9. avatar
    Thinker December 20, 2013 at 5:41 pm #

    Taitz doesn’t appear to be getting much media (social, internet, or mainstream) attention from this. When she posts about her legal actions, it is usually reposted on RWNJ sites and tweeted by her flying monkeys, but I don’t see much about it yet. Has she finally gone too far, even for birthers??

  10. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 20, 2013 at 5:44 pm #

    I think it would be good for everyone if the funeral home petitioned the court to have Taitz declared a vexatious litigant:

    http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/histatutes/4/34/634J/634J-1

  11. avatar
    Rickey December 20, 2013 at 5:52 pm #

    NTSB: Officials still trying to determine Fuddy’s cause of death

    By Jennifer Sinco Kelleher

    Associated Press

    POSTED: 11:51 a.m. HST, Dec 20, 2013
    LAST UPDATED: 12:35 p.m. HST, Dec 20, 2013

    It could take some time before officials determine exactly how Hawaii Health Director Loretta Fuddy died, said the lead investigator for the Molokai plane crash.

    It’s common for a cause of death not to be immediately known in these types of investigations, Hawaii-based National Transportation Safety Board investigator Jim Struhsaker said today.

    Fuddy was the sole fatality out of nine people aboard the Makani Kai Air flight that crashed in the water soon after taking off from Kalaupapa on Dec. 11.

    A passenger and the pilot have said they were shocked to hear she didn’t survive because she seemed fine in the moments after everyone got out of the plane and waited in the water for help to arrive.

    It’s been a week since an autopsy was conducted. Fuddy’s funeral is scheduled for Saturday in Honolulu.

    “Most people think cause of death is really simple … and usually it’s not quite that simple,” Struhsaker said.

    Maui police Lt. William Juan has said the NTSB is involved in determining a cause of death. However, the NTSB says that’s up to Maui County.

    “I am the lead investigator over the accident but I don’t have jurisdiction over the county,” Struhsaker said, adding that the NTSB can provide information that will help determine a cause of death.

    The investigation involves interviewing the people who were near Fuddy in the water, Struhsaker said.

    Meanwhile, Struhsaker was making arrangements to ship the plane’s engine in a crate to its manufacturer, Pratt & Whitney Canada, in Montreal, where it will be taken apart for analysis.

    “I know this is a priority item for us,” he said, but noted it may be after the holidays before it can be examined.

    Pilot Clyde Kawasaki said there was a loud bang when the plane lost power in what he described as “catastrophic engine failure.”

    A salvage dive team recovered the engine from the ocean earlier this week. “The Pacific has had its way with it for five days,” Struhsaker said.

    The NTSB could issue a preliminary report 10 to 15 days from the crash, said Eric Weiss, a spokesman for the agency in Washington, D.C. A full report with probable cause and recommendations could take between a year and 18 months.

  12. avatar
    Butterfly Bilderberg December 20, 2013 at 5:57 pm #

    There are so many things wrong with this “petition” it will never be heard by the court. The most obvious is lack of standing, because Taitz cannot, as an unrelated person, demonstrate any harm that she herself would suffer. And, as some at Fogbow have noted, she’s moving for a preliminary injunction/stay but she has no case against the mortuary with which this is associated so it is “preliminary” to nothing. A prelim is a procedure to maintain the status quo while a case is being litigated.

    This is fundamental civil procedure covered by ABA accredited law schools in the first year and there is no lack of case law on the topic of injunctions. Of course, we have no idea what that unaccredited distance learning law school taught.

  13. avatar
    Roadscholar December 20, 2013 at 6:03 pm #

    CarlOrcas: Let us hope she doesn’t have the survivability (metaphorically speaking) of cockroaches.

    That’s it! Orly is a product of Gregor Samsa’s Disease in reverse!

    She’s what you get when a cockroach metamorphoses into a person. Sort of.

  14. avatar
    CarlOrcas December 20, 2013 at 6:17 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I think it would be good for everyone if the funeral home petitioned the court to have Taitz declared a vexatious litigant:

    http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/histatutes/4/34/634J/634J-1

    Let us all, in our own ways, pray that it happens soon.

  15. avatar
    CarlOrcas December 20, 2013 at 6:36 pm #

    Rickey: NTSB: Officials still trying to determine Fuddy’s cause of death

    Oh my…..I suspect the propellers on the Birther Beanies (TM) are approaching supersonic speed at this point.

    More inconsistencies! More unknowns! Oh my!

    But never fear (if you’re a birther) President Obama will be leaving for Hawaii shortly (7pm Washington time) for his annual family vacation (wink, wink) and he’ll get everything straightened out.

  16. avatar
    CarlOrcas December 20, 2013 at 7:22 pm #

    Roadscholar: She’s what you get when a cockroach metamorphoses into a person. Sort of.

    No “sort of” about it.

  17. avatar
    Andrew Morris December 20, 2013 at 10:40 pm #

    The judge who denies her application (and hopefully imposes huge sanctions) is of course complicit of treason…. She just cannot have gone to law school, passed the exams and be a member of the CA Bar. If she is, what is the procedure to have her disbarred?

  18. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG December 20, 2013 at 10:52 pm #

    Disbarred, crowbarred, I ain’t picky. Just so long as she doesn’t get a Klondike Bar, as she doesn’t deserve one. Though a bar of soap in her mouth would be very welcomed.

  19. avatar
    Thinker December 20, 2013 at 11:35 pm #

    Unsurprisingly, Taitz’s motion was denied right after it was filed, but the case goes on. They scheduled a hearing for March of 2014. :)

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/192835891/Taitz-v-Hawaiian-Memorial-Park-Mortuary

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    JPotter December 21, 2013 at 12:14 am #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Disbarred, crowbarred, I ain’t picky.

    I vote for Barsoom’d.

  21. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG December 21, 2013 at 12:30 am #

    JPotter: I vote for Barsoom’d.

    Considering that John Carter of Mars has gone largely forgotten, I would love seeing her reserved to a similar fate. It would be a living hell without end for her. No one paying attention to the “great” Orly Taitz. Oh…and she’d still have a bar of soap in her mouth.

  22. avatar
    Lupin December 21, 2013 at 4:27 am #

    I entirely blame the California Bar Association. This odious train wreck (& possibly more to come?) was/is all too predictable, and yet they do nothing to hamper this madwoman.

  23. avatar
    gorefan December 21, 2013 at 10:56 am #

    Butterfly Bilderberg:

    This is fundamental civil procedure covered by ABA accredited law schools in the first year and there is no lack of case law on the topic of injunctions.Of course, we have no idea what that unaccredited distance learning law school taught.

    IIRC Jill Nagamine had the option to ask for sanctions and didn’t follow-up. But it was left open, is that still an available option for Hawaii?

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    Sef December 21, 2013 at 11:34 am #

    CarlOrcas: Oh my…..I suspect the propellers on the Birther Beanies (TM) are approaching supersonic speed at this point.

    Is that anything like a light beam travelling at a superluminal velocity on the face of a CRT?

  25. avatar
    JPotter December 21, 2013 at 12:26 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: It would be a living hell without end for her.

    C’mon, wannabe Jeanne d’Arc dropped on Mars and forced to either put up her warrior princess chops or literally be shut up. It’s a perfectly just solution. :D

  26. avatar
    Keith December 21, 2013 at 7:24 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Considering that John Carter of Mars has gone largely forgotten

    Thanks to the legal heirs of Walt Disney. Those earthquakes you hear about in Hollywoodland is Edgar Rice Burroughs turning over in his grave with fury about what they did to the gentleman from Virginia.

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater December 22, 2013 at 1:45 pm #

    Keith: Thanks to the legal heirs of Walt Disney. Those earthquakes you hear about in Hollywoodland is Edgar Rice Burroughs turning over in his grave with fury about what they did to the gentleman from Virginia.

    I think the best part of that movie was the rendition of My Body is a Cage done by Peter Garbiel that’s on the trailer.

  28. avatar
    Andrew Morris December 22, 2013 at 1:54 pm #

    Taitz, ever ready to see a conspiracy, says per the judge’s comment that the filing does not address whether the cremation has already occurred, asks if “the judge knows something we don’t”. To which the answer is, of course, yes. the judge knows that when you seek an injunction, you have to establish that it isn’t moot.

  29. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 22, 2013 at 5:35 pm #

    I would infer from the press coverage that cremation is not the intended disposition of the body.

    http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/24280187/hundreds-gather-to-remember-loretta-fuddy

    Andrew Morris: Taitz, ever ready to see a conspiracy, says per the judge’s comment that the filing does not address whether the cremation has already occurred, asks if “the judge knows something we don’t”. To which the answer is, of course, yes. the judge knows that when you seek an injunction, you have to establish that it isn’t moot.

  30. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 22, 2013 at 5:38 pm #

    I’m not much of a fan of the open-ended question like this one from a long-time birther Cris Ericson commenting at Taitz’ blog: ” Why didn’t President Barack Obama attend Ms. Loretta Fuddy’s funeral service?”

    Why would he? Had they even met?

  31. avatar
    CarlOrcas December 22, 2013 at 7:01 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: I would infer from the press coverage that cremation is not the intended disposition of the body.

    I was kind of surprised Ms. Taitz didn’t show up at the service and demand that the coffin be opened so she could see what was inside.

  32. avatar
    CarlOrcas December 22, 2013 at 7:03 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I’m not much of a fan of the open-ended question like this one from a long-time birther Cris Ericson commenting at Taitz’ blog: ” Why didn’t President Barack Obama attend Ms. Loretta Fuddy’s funeral service?”

    Why would he? Had they even met?

    And, of course, had he attended Mr. Ericson would have been wondering if his being there was designed to deflect attention from his role in Ms. Fuddy’s demise.

  33. avatar
    RanTalbott December 23, 2013 at 2:40 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: I would infer from the press coverage that cremation is not the intended disposition of the body.

    Note that the “burial services will be private”, so no one will be there to record the black helicopters spiriting her remains away.

    No doubt to be buried at sea right next to bin Laden.

    (sadly, I’m sure that even loonier scenarios are being proposed in all seriousness, even as we speak)

  34. avatar
    Fred Flintstone December 23, 2013 at 5:36 pm #

    Orly Taitz is delusional. She can’t get any traction on her other frivolous lawsuits and now, in order to prove her so-called “civil rights” chops – she is overtly showing her racist views against blacks (“Obama is a black liar”), Latinos, Gays (by filing a ridiculous complaint on behalf of the Colorado members of her “Foundation” – when she has never disclosed who sits on her board, how much much she has received, how she has personally be enriched, and how much money she has spent.

    Now, she stoops to the lowest common denominator by harassing this poor woman’s family, the funeral home, Hawaii law enforcement and NTSB officials when she has no vested interest whatsoever in this tragic accident.

    She is nothing more than a barking dog behind a moving car (I apologize to all dogs for comparing her as such). She even tried to get people to go to the funeral to see if it was a closed or open casket.

    I wonder why the legal profession is not reigning her in. She is obviously obsessed and racist in her views and opinions. And she’s got “supporters” who are so damn stupid to support her white russian racist ass. In addition, she has cost taxpayers thousands, if not millions in frivolous lawsuits. She has to remember that if you do a Google search on the words “Orly Taitz” and “affair” – she will be really embarrassed.

    How can we complain to the State Bar and have her law license yanked?

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    Paul Pieniezny December 23, 2013 at 7:19 pm #

    Fred Flintstone: How can we complain to the State Bar and have her law license yanked?

    Simple answer: you cannot because the California Bar refuses to yank law licenses, except when clients of the attorney have been wronged.

    Problem: Taitz does not have real cllents, she has followers.

  36. avatar
    Fred Flintstone December 23, 2013 at 9:23 pm #

    Paul Pieniezny: Simple answer: you cannot because the California Bar refuses to yank law licenses, except when clients of the attorney have been wronged.

    Problem: Taitz does not have real cllents, she has followers.

    That’s unfortunate. I just saw her site and she now wants a FOIA on President Obama’s application on the ACA website – and this idiot doesn’t realize that what she’s asking for is covered by HPPA laws and they cannot and will not release information she’s seeking.

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    Keith December 23, 2013 at 11:33 pm #

    Paul Pieniezny: Simple answer: you cannot because the California Bar refuses to yank law licenses, except when clients of the attorney have been wronged.

    Problem: Taitz does not have real cllents, she has followers.

    Yeah that, or physically threaten the Judge during a court session.

    Its a pity too because there is more evidence that Taitz got her license by fraud than there is birther evidence against President Obama. Clearly, she had to have someone sit the Bar Exam for her.

  38. avatar
    The European December 24, 2013 at 10:46 am #

    Fred Flintstone:

    I wonder why the legal profession is not reigning her in. She is obviously obsessed and racist in her views and opinions.And she’s got “supporters” who are so damn stupid to support her white russian racist ass.In addition, she has cost taxpayers thousands, if not millions in frivolous lawsuits. She has to remember that if you do a Google search on the words “Orly Taitz” and “affair” – she will be really embarrassed.

    How can we complain to the State Bar and have her law license yanked?

    Fred, if you really want to know what can be known about Mrs. Taitz and what can be done to stop her – go to the FogBow

    http://www.thefogbow.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=24

    and read what has been written about her for so many years. You will see deep insights by rikker and read about astonishing meetings in a dental chair.

    And you will hear lots of teeth grinding about the Californian Bar.

    I guess you will need no books this Christmas.

  39. avatar
    Thinker December 26, 2013 at 5:37 am #

    I see the court in Hawaii has issued an order to show cause why Orly’s disgusting “lawsuit” to stop cremation of Loretta Fuddy’s body should not be dismissed. The motion was denied on Friday but there’s really nothing else the court can do with it since it is not attached to an actual complaint.
    http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/hawaii/hidce/1:2013cv00708/113778/6/0.pdf

  40. avatar
    JPotter December 26, 2013 at 11:18 am #

    Fred Flintstone: I wonder why the legal profession is not reigning her in.

    Doing so would be a form of professional censorship. Lawyers are paid advocates. If the bar reels Taitz in for promoting positions that are perceived as being nuts, this potentially limits opportunities for legal professionals, and also, far more importantly, would limit the ability of those wishing to advance/defend unpopular/fringe positions in the future.

    Not all fringe views are as meritless or repugnant as those of Taitz, far from it. All worthy causes have to start somewhere. Some causes that are initially viewed as aberrant, revolutionary, crazy by society are eventually vindicated and later celebrated. Who is to judge what has merit? The bar association? No. Judges do. That’s why judges exist, and are beholden to separate authority; lawyers advocate, and judges judge their presentations.

    If you want to get rids of Taitz, gots to present some dishonest-to-badness ethics violations.

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    nbc December 26, 2013 at 4:56 pm #

    I see the court in Hawaii has issued an order to show cause why Orly’s disgusting “lawsuit” to stop cremation of Loretta Fuddy’s body should not be dismissed. The motion was denied on Friday but there’s really nothing else the court can do with it since it is not attached to an actual complaint.

    Since anyone understanding the issues of law, would drop the case, I predict that Orly will pursue fully this case, probably adding RICO claims and other irrelevant matter.

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    The Magic M December 27, 2013 at 5:23 am #

    Thinker: I see the court in Hawaii has issued an order to show cause

    For cranks like Orly, “show cause” means “tell the judge ‘I already told you, utmost importance and because I say so, you traitor!'”.

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    The Magic M December 27, 2013 at 5:26 am #

    Thinker: The motion was denied on Friday

    Susan Oki Mollway is a federal district judge on the United States District Court for the District of Hawaii and the first Asian-American woman ever appointed to the federal bench.” (Wikipedia)

    I wonder if we’ll see some nice racist comments on Orly’s site as usual…

  44. avatar
    The Magic M December 27, 2013 at 5:27 am #

    JPotter: If you want to get rids of Taitz, gots to present some dishonest-to-badness ethics violations.

    Wouldn’t “inciting people to harrass opponents and third parties in her lawsuits” qualify?

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    RanTalbott December 27, 2013 at 5:40 am #

    The Magic M: Wouldn’t “inciting people to harrass opponents and third parties in her lawsuits” qualify?

    I suspect William Kunstler would take issue* with that criterion :roll:

    * Or “would have taken”, depending on your (lack of) religious beliefs…

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    Keith December 28, 2013 at 2:20 am #

    The Magic M: For cranks like Orly, “show cause” means “tell the judge ‘I already told you, utmost importance and because I say so, you traitor!’”.

    I always understood that Orly thinks that “show cause” means the Judge has granted her discovery and tune up the frog marching music.

  47. avatar
    john December 28, 2013 at 3:24 pm #

    [Moved to correct thread. Doc.]

    Off Topic but important: http://www.globemagazine.com/story/1111
    Globe: MURDERED FOR KNOWING WHERE OBAMA WAS BORN
    We still do not know why Loretta Fuddy died. Will a reason ever be produced or will the investigation into her death be quietly buried.

  48. avatar
    CarlOrcas December 28, 2013 at 3:42 pm #

    john:
    [Moved to correct thread. Doc.]

    Off Topic but important: http://www.globemagazine.com/story/1111
    Globe: MURDERED FOR KNOWING WHERE OBAMA WAS BORN
    We still do not know why Loretta Fuddy died. Will a reason ever be produced or will the investigation into her death be quietly buried.

    Do you subscribe to the Globe, john? Buy it at your corner market?

    Do you think she was murdered? If so….how? By whom?

  49. avatar
    Northland10 December 28, 2013 at 7:01 pm #

    I once thought John was just dumber then dirt and extremely gullible. Given his latest comments on Orly recent fools quest, ones he made at NBC’s regarding Huff and now the Globe thing, I am leaning toward a variation of a troll. He comments seem directed toward getting a reaction, especially from debunkers not in actually debating or discussing a topic.

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    Slartibartfast December 28, 2013 at 7:24 pm #

    It seems like there has been a gradual trend here from birthers who were willing to debate (albiet in bad faith) like Micheal N or Bob Gard to more like John who just troll discussions and never respond to anything.

    Northland10:
    I once thought John was just dumber then dirt and extremely gullible.Given his latest comments on Orly recent fools quest, ones he made at NBC’s regarding Huff and now the Globe thing, I am leaning toward a variation of a troll.He comments seem directed toward getting a reaction, especially from debunkers not in actually debating or discussing a topic.

  51. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 28, 2013 at 8:17 pm #

    The birther argument is a losing one, so those who carry it must either become discouraged and give up, or ignore the facts and keep railing on. Those “jihadists” are willing to debate, but with such verbal violence that they usually get banned.

    Slartibartfast: It seems like there has been a gradual trend here from birthers who were willing to debate (albiet in bad faith) like Micheal N or Bob Gard to more like John who just troll discussions and never respond to anything.

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    Slartibartfast December 28, 2013 at 8:43 pm #

    Even if they don’t get themselves banned, there’s only so long that they can keep repeating the same arguments in the face of relentless debunking. The ones who don’t escalate it to the point of banning don’t last much longer before they burn out and slink away.

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    The birther argument is a losing one, so those who carry it must either become discouraged and give up, or ignore the facts and keep railing on. Those “jihadists” are willing to debate, but with such verbal violence that they usually get banned.

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    Keith December 28, 2013 at 11:36 pm #

    Northland10: I am leaning toward a variation of a troll

    Not a “variation of a troll”. A textbook example of the dictionary definition.

  54. avatar
    y_p_w December 30, 2013 at 1:32 am #

    JPotter: Doing so would be a form of professional censorship. Lawyers are paid advocates. If the bar reels Taitz in for promoting positions that are perceived as being nuts, this potentially limits opportunities for legal professionals, and also, far more importantly, would limit the ability of those wishing to advance/defend unpopular/fringe positions in the future.

    Not all fringe views are as meritless or repugnant as those of Taitz, far from it. All worthy causes have to start somewhere. Some causes that are initially viewed as aberrant, revolutionary, crazy by society are eventually vindicated and later celebrated. Who is to judge what has merit? The bar association? No. Judges do. That’s why judges exist, and are beholden to separate authority; lawyers advocate, and judges judge their presentations.

    If you want to get rids of Taitz, gots to present some dishonest-to-badness ethics violations.

    Whatever happened to sheer incompetence? That would cause a doctor to lose a medical license. It’s pretty clear that she can’t even carry out the most basic things that a professional attorney can do. She’s represented clients and not terribly well.

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    JPotter December 30, 2013 at 1:56 am #

    y_p_w: Whatever happened to sheer incompetence?That would cause a doctor to lose a medical license.It’s pretty clear that she can’t even carry out the most basic things that a professional attorney can do.She’s represented clients and not terribly well.

    Rather ironically, a free market conserv would argue that the market would make such an attorney go away. An “attorney” as shockingly incompetent as Taitz should attract 0 revenue. Unfortunately, the real world doesn’t work that way; a terrible “attorney” may have access to outside capital (hubby’s pockets!) or be willing to burn cash from other sources of income (is that dental practice actually producing anything?) or be able to attract deluded sycophants for clients.

    Here’s another possible avenue …. Taitz’s CLE compliance will be due on 2/3/14. Just over a month away. With all this windmill tilting, has she kept up? She can’t seem to maintain / document anything else correctly, so my money is on “not”. That incompetence has to catch up to her sometime, right?

    http://mcle.calbar.ca.gov/MCLE.aspx

    This stuff is self-reported …. she’ll manage to blow that. I wonder what it takes to trigger an audit? The penalties for noncompliance are fees, and a chance of being deemed ‘inactive’.

  56. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 30, 2013 at 3:07 pm #

    She can do it online. :roll:

    JPotter: Here’s another possible avenue …. Taitz’s CLE compliance will be due on 2/3/14.

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    CarlOrcas December 30, 2013 at 3:24 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    She can do it online.

    CLE question for Attorney Taitz: Which way is up?

    1. /I\

    2. \I/

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    Rickey December 30, 2013 at 7:01 pm #

    y_p_w: Whatever happened to sheer incompetence?That would cause a doctor to lose a medical license.It’s pretty clear that she can’t even carry out the most basic things that a professional attorney can do.She’s represented clients and not terribly well.

    A finding of medical incompetence usually results from an investigation following some harm done to a patient. No harm, no foul. Doctors also can lose their licenses for offenses such as failing to maintain proper medical records and for criminal convictions.

    As for Orly’s clients, the California Bar won’t initiate an investigation unless one of them complains about her. As far as we know, that hasn’t happened. The only Orly client I can think of who really could show harm as a result of her incompetence was Stefan Cook, and he is dead.

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    JPotter December 30, 2013 at 8:13 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    She can do it online.

    Well, she could do it online, but judging from the rest of her known prowess, whether she can shouldn’t be taken for granted. Heh.

    Even when she blows the CLE, it will be a trivial matter to clear up. She fumbled her dental license, didn’t she?

    Hope can spring eternal for eternity, but, the truth is, Taitz is only unusual in the visibility she has achieved. There are thousands of Taitz’s out there, pushing thousands of crazies. Just as love of free speech requires tolerance for unlovely speech, having a legal system that guarantees everyone their say requires tolerance of what everyone has to say.

    And, if she did manage to lose her license … she could go right on birfin’. She wouldn’t skip much of a beat. She would lose the ability to represent others and to pose as an officer of a court, but dozens of other not-a-lawer birfers are clogging the courts just fine having never passed any bar except those surrounded by stools.

    Slowing down Taitz would require removal of access (designation as vexatious, overdue but unlikely), or cutting off her support. Amateur lawyering isn’t terribly expensive—nor should it be—so that’s also a dead end.

    Nope, sorry kids, we’re all stuck with her.Sit back and enjoy … nothing lasts forever.

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    aarrgghh December 31, 2013 at 12:08 am #

    Rickey: The only Orly client I can think of who really could show harm as a result of her incompetence was Stefan Cook, and he is dead.

    how convenient …

    </birf>

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    Steve December 31, 2013 at 12:47 am #

    Rickey: A finding of medical incompetence usually results from an investigation following some harm done to a patient. No harm, no foul. Doctors also can lose their licenses for offenses such as failing to maintain proper medical records and for criminal convictions.

    As for Orly’s clients, the California Bar won’t initiate an investigation unless one of them complains about her. As far as we know, that hasn’t happened. The only Orly client I can think of who really could show harm as a result of her incompetence was Stefan Cook, and he is dead.

    Don’t you mean Connie Rhodes, who I think is still alive?