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Another birther attorney running for judge

imageTaking a page from Gary Kreep’s autobiography, birther attorney Van R. Irion is running for criminal court in Tennessee’s 10th judicial district, and so will leaving the post of lead counsel for the Liberty Legal Foundation, an organization that in addition to challenging Obama’s eligibility defends the rights of students to wear Confederate emblems at school.

The latest LLF graphic appears to the right. I don’t have a problem with this concept in the abstract, but I don’t agree that Irion is or represents God. The people ceded authority to the states, and the states ratified the Constitution, thereby binding the people to the process.

Van Irion is currently appealing the $10,565.23 in sanctions assessed in the case of  Liberty Legal Foundation v. National Democratic Party of the USA.

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25 Responses to Another birther attorney running for judge

  1. avatar
    Thinker January 8, 2014 at 2:42 am #

    Yikes. Van Irion as a judge? I think he mostly does copyright trolling lawsuits, doesn’t he? He demonstrated that he is both incredibly stupid and incredibly dishonest early on in his birther cases when he sued an organization called the Democratic Party of the USA, Inc., registered in Tennessee by a disgruntled wingnut but not affiliated in any way with the Democratic National Committee. Then, when he finally figured out his mistake, he added the DNC to his lawsuit but didn’t dismiss the case against the fake Democratic Party, opting instead to request a default judgment against it. Then, when the real Tennessee Democratic Party asked for sanctions against him for this, he replied by claiming that it was unreasonable to expect him to know who runs the organizations he sues.

    Loser.

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    The European January 8, 2014 at 3:54 am #

    If he only had worked as hard on the case as he fights now the sanctions …

  3. avatar
    The Magic M January 8, 2014 at 4:10 am #

    Thinker: when he finally figured out his mistake

    What mistake? Van Irion isn’t Orly. He clearly sued the wrong party on purpose (as evidenced by his attempt to get a default ruling against it after being told it’s the wrong party) so he could claim he got an injunction against the (real) Democratic Party.

  4. avatar
    Joe Acerbic January 8, 2014 at 4:19 am #

    Well, he would really make it a criminal court.

  5. avatar
    #Birther Watch January 8, 2014 at 6:45 am #

    A genuine birther in the 2014 elections, who could ask for more? He should be issuing press releases, funding drives and making noise soon. Now Orly MUST run for something !!

    lol

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    donna January 8, 2014 at 10:51 am #

    #Birther Watch: Now Orly MUST run for something !!

    LOL she’s hoping for a birther president so she can become AG or perhaps a supreme court justice

    after all, kreep the creep “will start a new assignment in Department 7 in the central courthouse, handling a full calendar of landlord-tenant disputes, according to a court spokeswoman. He’ll also handle some civil cases that relate to landlord tenant disputes as well as credit card debt cases.”

    http://m.utsandiego.com/news/2014/jan/06/birther-judge-gary-kreep-traffic-court-over/

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    predicto January 8, 2014 at 11:34 am #

    #Birther Watch:
    A genuine birther in the 2014 elections, who could ask for more? He should be issuing press releases, funding drives and making noise soon. Now Orly MUST run for something !!

    Don’t forget – Gary Kreep is now a judge in San Diego. As long as we have local judicial elections, crap like this can happen.

  8. avatar
    JPotter January 8, 2014 at 11:50 am #

    They forgot to put “UN” below “DC” :P

    They couldn’t be bothered to spell out “national government” or “federal government”? You know, the one constituted by the Constitution? Interesting how they abuse it’s opening line (“We the People” …) as a pronoun for the people/citizens of the US. Looks like they are trying to have the Constitution in 2 places at the same time … and endorsing both a “state’s rights” / nullification position (Well, they are neo-Confederates! ;) ), and “sovereign citizenship”.

    They don’t seem to be able to handle dual sovereignty very well.

  9. avatar
    bob January 8, 2014 at 12:33 pm #

    Irion is running against the judge who “hand picked” the grand jurors, an act that “necessitated” Fitzpatrick to steal court documents.

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    nbc January 8, 2014 at 4:56 pm #

    bob: Irion is running against the judge who “hand picked” the grand jurors, an act that “necessitated” Fitzpatrick to steal court documents.

    And an act that is 1) legal for the foreperson 2) shows Walt’s ignorance of the process as to the Grand Jury itself.

    So nothing new really…

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    MattR January 8, 2014 at 6:34 pm #

    I have never understood the conservative fixation on state government being the perfect level of authority. I can understand why local control could be more attractive, but why stop at the state level? Why aren’t counties or cities higher on the LLF hierarchy than states?

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    JPotter January 8, 2014 at 7:39 pm #

    MattR:
    I have never understood the conservative fixation on state government being the perfect level of authority.I can understand why local control could be more attractive, but why stop at the state level?Why aren’t counties or cities higher on the LLF hierarchy than states?

    Oh, don’t worry, they will be! When seeking radical change, can’t ask for the whole enchilada all at once; have to push for that first step, and pray no one clues in to the slipperiness of your preferred slope.

    That, and railing agin’ the federal gubbamint goes all the way back to … railing against the distant control of Parliament and the Crown. Hell, plans to form unions of colonies in order advocate from a stronger position against the Crown were railed against. The Anti/Federalist feud of the 1780s brought it to a fever pitch that’s never subsided.

    But yeah, just as soon as they could get rid of the Fed, the same mindset would start grinding against the states. Idiots expect all the benefits of government without the necesssary responsiblities and compromises.

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    Northland10 January 8, 2014 at 7:53 pm #

    Apparently, Van Irion’s copyright troll cases are not paying off as he would like. Those things can happen when the plaintiff when suing over a work the plaintiffs due not even own (or something like that).

    If I can over the laziness, maybe I will find my citations on his copyright troll cases. Mr. Christian Identity lawyer does not inspire me to get over laziness.

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    The Magic M January 9, 2014 at 4:28 am #

    JPotter: But yeah, just as soon as they could get rid of the Fed, the same mindset would start grinding against the states.

    It happens all around the world – whenever some interest group (or just somebody who would “like to be king”) finds itself the minority, they demand their own state where they can be majority again – and within which the process then repeats. You can see that today in the Kosovo which itself is a Serbian enclave in Albania and where now the Albanian minority demands to have their own enclave within the Kosovo. Or how South Sudan seperated from Sudan and now is about to split up again. That’s the problem, once you “allow” people to proceed with separatism, the slippery slope begins. The end result would inevitably be “sovereign citizen meets anarchy” where everybody is his own state, governed by no-one and protected only by himself (which means bullies will rule again).

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    Keith January 9, 2014 at 6:01 pm #

    The Magic M: It happens all around the world – whenever some interest group (or just somebody who would “like to be king”) finds itself the minority, they demand their own state where they can be majority again

    Example: Environmentalist calls for Mornington Peninsula and Frankston to become Australia’s newest state

    I notice that the committed “Environmentalist” in this story is a lecturer in IT and e-Commerce. If Mornington Peninsula split off to become a new state, any environmental controls that are protecting the area would be out the window faster than you can say ‘boat marinas and golf courses with empty hotels designed for the Asian tourist market as far as the eye can see’.

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    nbc January 11, 2014 at 3:20 am #

    Why are some people confusing the right to petition with the right to be taken seriously?… There is no right to have something investigated by Congress or the Courts, there is a right to petition them and proceed according to the rules and procedures and if they are not interested then, well, it’s all over.

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    Curious George January 11, 2014 at 9:22 am #

    Another birther considers running for office. Arpaio considers a run for Arizona governor a possibility but sends mixed message about his campaign funds.

    January 10, 2014 “JoePac” fund raising letter: “But the recall depleted our campaign funds, and now as we enter the new year, I need you immediate help.”

    January 10, 2014 ABC 15 news broadcast “Arpaio, Seagal weigh bids for Governor”. “I think people know that money is no issue with me no matter what I run for.”

    Same day, two conflicting statements regarding campaign funds.

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    JPotter January 11, 2014 at 10:39 am #

    Curious George: Same day, two conflicting statements regarding campaign funds.

    Intended for 2 different audiences; one to create a sense of urgency among shills willing to cough up cash, one to project confidence to the media and public at large. You’re not supposed to pay attention to both of them :P

    It’s routine for campaigns to send different messages to their supporters and to the general public … some more blatantly, egregiously than others.

  19. avatar
    Curious George January 11, 2014 at 11:36 am #

    Arpaio, one very slippery dude. Present this information to Birthers and no inconsistency would be observed.

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    Arthur January 11, 2014 at 2:11 pm #

    Keith: Example: Environmentalist calls for Mornington Peninsula and Frankston to become Australia’s newest state

    I’ve always said that Australia doesn’t have enough states! Some suggestions:

    Shrimp-on-the-Barbiana, Fosters, Boozingshire, South Kangaroo, Platapusias, Charles Darwinian, Outbackington, New Dingo, West Brisvegas.

    Your welcome.

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    Arthur January 11, 2014 at 2:15 pm #

    Curious George: Arpaio, one very slippery dude. Present this information to Birthers and no inconsistency would be observed.

    There are occasional comments at Birther Report that claim The Maricopa Sheriff’s Dept. is giving financial support to the CCP. Have you seen those?

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    J.D. Reed January 11, 2014 at 2:43 pm #

    nbc: Why are some people confusing the right to petition with the right to be taken seriously?… There is no right to have something investigated by Congress or the Courts, there is a right to petition them and proceed according to the rules and procedures and if they are not interested then, well, it’s all over.

    Hear, hear!

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    gorefan January 11, 2014 at 4:19 pm #

    nbc:
    Why are some people confusing the right to petition with the right to be taken seriously?… There is no right to have something investigated by Congress or the Courts, there is a right to petition them and proceed according to the rules and procedures and if they are not interested then, well, it’s all over.

    Which is pretty much what the SCOTUS has said:

    “Nothing in the First Amendment or in this Court’s case law interpreting it suggests that the rights to speak, associate, and petition require government policymakers to listen or respond to individuals’ communications on public issues.” Minn. Bd. Commun. for Colleges v. Knight – 465 U.S. 271 (1984)

    “The public employee surely can associate and speak freely and petition openly, and he is protected by the First Amendment from retaliation for doing so. See Pickering v. Board of Education, 391 U. S. 563, 391 U. S. 574-575 (1968); Shelton v. Tucker, 364 U. S. 479 (1960). But the First Amendment does not impose any affirmative obligation on the government to listen, to respond or, in this context, to recognize the association and bargain with it.” Smith v. Arkansas State Hwy. Employees Local – 441 U.S. 463 (1979)

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    JPotter January 12, 2014 at 8:51 am #

    nbc: Why are some people confusing the right to petition with the right to be taken seriously?…

    But they are being taken seriously. Birther petitions have been responded to by courts and election boards, and petitioners have had their days in courts.

    In every case, assininity has been refuted, seriously, as assininity.

    They have the right to petition, and the right to be taken seriously, that is, handled accoring to procedure and responded to accordingly.

    What they don’t have, is a right to their desired result.

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    nbc January 12, 2014 at 3:38 pm #

    In every case, assininity has been refuted, seriously, as assininity.

    In many cases, lack of standing prevented the case from being “heard”…

    But yes, all follows our Constitution. Why Birthers and “Patriots” want to ignore our Constitution and pick and choose to their likings parts they do ‘care’ about, is beyond me…