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OR LY for CA AG?

Orly Taitz is seeking statewide office in the postal abbreviation for California, or at least exploring the possibility, as she reports in her article, “Intent to run for state wide office in CA.” After sifting through what’s available for 2014, she came up with Attorney General.

One of her commenters asked:

I don’t know. To be the attorney general, don’t you have to have some qualifications as an attorney that has actually been in practice for a long time and has helped many clients?

Orly replied that all it takes is having been an attorney for 5 years, and she qualifies.

I actually thought this made sense in a way, Orly running for Attorney General. As AG, she would have the power to bring  lawsuits on behalf of the State and gain all sorts of new opportunities in her quest to unseat Barack Obama, which seems to have been her main goal in life for the past 5 years. Surprisingly, her 8-point platform has nothing about prosecuting Obama. Is it possible that she understands that this is a losing issue? The closest she gets is this:

assuring lawful elections with US citizen candidates instead of candidates like Barack Obama who ran for office based on fraud and using a stolen CT SSN and fabricated IDs and aided and abetting by corrupt and criminally complicit officials

The word that appears over and over in her platform is “nullification.” Interested readers can check out the Wikipedia article. Generally it is a legal theory that a state can ignore (nullify) federal laws, a theory that has generally failed in the courts. In response to one comment that nullification was unconstitutional, Orly wrote:

South Carolina is nullifying Obamacare, Western states have nullified multipe (sic) federal mandates which infringed on Second Amendment rights

South Carolina is in the process of considering legislation to nullify the Affordable Care Act. House Bill 3101, the “South Carolina Freedom of Health Care Protection Act,” was passed by the House (28-16) last May and is up for consideration by the Senate this month. The bill makes it a crime for any state official to aid the enforcement of any provision of the ACA, provides a tax deduction1 for anyone who pays a penalty for not buying insurance under the ACA, and prohibits any political division of the state from purchasing health insurance from a health care exchange established by a nonprofit organization. I think the law might be better titled: “The South Carolina Insurance Company Profits Protection Act.”

Nullification is a historically-significant term in South Carolina that brings to mind the Nullification Crisis of 1832, which almost lead to armed conflict between South Carolina the federal government.

In her typical way, Orly is asking her web readers to pay the filing fee to run, $3,022, and to foot the bill of $6,000 to get her 250-word platform included in the official state voter pamphlet. Her draft platform is 376 words. She will need to come up with a 5.32 point platform to fit the requirements.


1The top marginal income tax rate in South Carolina is 7%.

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30 Responses to OR LY for CA AG?

  1. avatar
    Bob January 7, 2014 at 12:47 pm #

    She could run for city council or school board member but I guess those kinds of positions are for little people and not fitting for Queen of the Birthers.

    No More Mister Nice Blog has a short post up about Orly ☞LINK

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    Andrew Morris January 7, 2014 at 12:51 pm #

    She also disses the Supremacy clause, which she clearly hasn’t read – and if she has, doesn’t understand. But this is great. She’ll get 5 votes (if everyone in her family supports her) and will waste the next year in a campaign she cannot win.

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    Bernard Sussman January 7, 2014 at 1:05 pm #

    Orly might meet the absolute minimum prerequisites to run for State Atty-Gen, but the voters surely want more than that from a candidate. Moreover, her blog statement of her intentions shows that she has already made decisions which should be made by the Governor or the Legislature or the Courts.

    Usually candidates for Atty-General promise more efficiency and effectiveness, and the like, but Taitz is hardly a model of either efficiency or effectiveness, and her casting about for random amateurs to do her sleuthing for her is just the opposite of what you’d want a real lawyer to do. The fact that, despite her claims of thousands of supporters, she cannot raise the filing fees or a campaign warchest, should put the matter to rest.

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    Andrew Morris January 7, 2014 at 1:14 pm #

    I’d like to think that the CA Bar will throw her out. Can you imagine a doctor with a comparable level of competence being allowed to practise?

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    JPotter January 7, 2014 at 1:30 pm #

    With a decently organized campaign and some savvy media help, Orly could make a respectable shoring on this platform …. in Orange County. Since she won’t have the organization or the savvy, oh well.

    Are southern state’s willing to go to war to defend their “right” to deny their citizen’s access to health coverage?

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    Andrew Morris January 7, 2014 at 2:00 pm #

    I wonder if she’s trying to clean up her act. Through fake identities I’ve got several really unpleasant comments posted, and I see that she’s now “redacting” words that previously she was happy to allow. She also removed at least one post after it had been up for a couple of days. As perhaps 90% of what gets posted is from Obots, let’s monitor this…how dare she deny us our First Amendment rights just because she wants to pretty up her site ahead of running for AG. However, this hasn’t stopped her suggesting that Michelle Obama was never pregnant.

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG January 7, 2014 at 2:21 pm #

    Orly needs to find the most backwater, conservative state in the US. She’d actually stand half a chance somewhere like that, but not in California.

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    bob January 7, 2014 at 3:09 pm #

    As to Taitz’s point about nullification regarding Second Amendment issues, a few states have passed laws in an attempt to exempt firearms made in-state from federal gun laws. The federal courts have invalidated those state laws.

    The closest “victory” was Sheriff Mack (and others) who successfully argued parts of the Brady Bill were unconstitutional because they were not authorized by the U.S. Constitution. This, of course, has nothing to with nullification, but accuracy has never been Taitz’s strong suit.

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    JPotter January 7, 2014 at 3:27 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG:
    Orly needs to find the most backwater, conservative state in the US. She’d actually stand half a chance somewhere like that, but not in California.

    If she could run against Feinstein here in Okieland, sh’d be in like Flynn.

    Problem is, even in Deep Red territory, she hasn’t a prayer of winning a party’s nomination, or finishing in the top 2 in a state with nonpartisan primaries. She’s too weird; the Reds won’t endorse here, and common people can’t / won’t identify with her.

    That said, your point stands; if high office is your ambition, you have to pick your battlefield wisely, even if it means moving to where your support is. Like Hillary did, to NY! Orly running in CA was just stupid; delusion concentrate.

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    Dr. Conspiracy January 7, 2014 at 4:20 pm #

    I didn’t develop this in the article, but the nullificationists say that the Supremacy Clause only applies to constitutional acts of Congress, which is why the South Carolina bill enumerates at its beginning why the Affordable Care Act is unconstitutional, even though courts have generally upheld it.

    Andrew Morris: She also disses the Supremacy clause, which she clearly hasn’t read – and if she has, doesn’t understand.

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    CarlOrcas January 7, 2014 at 4:37 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG:
    Orly needs to find the most backwater, conservative state in the US. She’d actually stand half a chance somewhere like that, but not in California.

    Just hope we don’t get a Tea Party member in the White House. They’ll be marching on Washington to get Orly on the Supreme Court.

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    Rickey January 7, 2014 at 5:39 pm #

    The proposed law in South Carolina really isn’t nullification. Nullification would be passing a law which says that people in South Carolina can’t sign up for health insurance through the Federal exchange, or passing a law which prohibits health insurance companies from issuing policies which fully comply with the Affordable Care Act. The law is obstruction, but it isn’t nullification.

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    Paper January 7, 2014 at 5:43 pm #

    Yes, well, if the ACA were unconstitutional, then it wouldn’t apply to anyone, no state, no people, *once* the *Supreme Court* says so–but wait, what, the Supreme Court already said it is *constitutional*?

    So what they are really saying is that their opinion, that a state’s opinion of what is constitutional, trumps the Supreme Court.

    Thus, the fatal flaw in their argument, the unconstitutionality of *their* argument, is revealed.

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I didn’t develop this in the article, but the nullificationists say that the Supremacy Clause only applies to constitutional acts of Congress, which is why the South Carolina bill enumerates at its beginning why the Affordable Care Act is unconstitutional, even though courts have generally upheld it.

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    JPotter January 7, 2014 at 5:58 pm #

    Paper: So what they are really saying is that their opinion, that a state’s opinion of what is constitutional, trumps the Supreme Court.

    Thus, the fatal flaw in their argument, the unconstitutionality of *their* argument, is revealed.

    Ditto! I was just about to type a similar sentiment.

    Nutty anarchists … inviting chaos.

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    Thinker January 7, 2014 at 6:45 pm #

    Taitz is trying to branch out into non-birther nuttery, but she won’t succeed. She is delusional. Delusional people can’t just give up their delusional beliefs nor their obsession with them because their beliefs don’t fit into their life any more. Everything in her life is governed by her obsession with Barack Obama. She gets sidetracked occasionally, but she always gets back to the birth certificate and the SSN. Regardless of what she says her desire to be the AG of CA is about, it is about birtherism.

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    RanTalbott January 7, 2014 at 7:04 pm #

    Bernard Sussman: her casting about for random amateurs to do her sleuthing for her is just the opposite of what you’d want a real lawyer to do

    Quite the opposite: it’s the very model of “efficiency”: it’d save tons of money by not hiring expensive professionals to do all those investigations. Not to mention the savings of not needing to incarcerate all those felons who get mistrials due to investigatorial incompetence.

    Plus, it’s hip and trendy: it’s … um … “crowdsourcing”!. “Encouraging citizen participation in government”. “Putting the power back in the hands of the peee-pul”. It’s “[Insert favorite populist bumper sticker here]!!”

    If you’re a partisan, it’s also a sure win for the Democrats if the establishment GOP candidate happens to have an unfortunate encounter with a bread truck. So don’t knock it ’til she’s tried it ;-)

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    Butterfly Bilderberg January 7, 2014 at 7:24 pm #

    I hear there is an opening for a carpetbagger in Wyoming.

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    Punchmaster via mobile January 7, 2014 at 7:50 pm #

    Would rather see her get a job as Buster’s stand in on Mythbusters.

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    Northland10 January 8, 2014 at 9:01 am #

    Punchmaster via mobile:
    Would rather see her get a job as Buster’s stand in on Mythbusters.

    Are you trying to insult his role? Buster has poise, bearing, class and mellow temperament. All of these characteristics are needed when you are wearing exploding pants. Orly would be screaming, look at me when they shoot her out of a plastic pipe. She would not realize, it is about the myth and not her.

    Buster has more human characteristics than Orly.

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG January 8, 2014 at 10:04 am #

    Northland10: Are you trying to insult his role?Buster has poise, bearing, class and mellow temperament.All of these characteristics are needed when you are wearing exploding pants.Orly would be screaming, look at me when they shoot her out of a plastic pipe.She would not realize, it is about the myth and not her.

    Buster has more human characteristics than Orly.

    Fair enough! They can use her as a standing for their ballistics gel tests, instead!

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    sfjeff January 8, 2014 at 2:47 pm #

    As a Californian, there is part of me which welcomes Orly’s candidacy- part of me welcomes any opportunity to taint the Republican Party with the Birther smell.

    But Republicans are already so marginalized here in CA, that I actually feel bad for them, and think they don’t deserve Orly.

    Still……she would be amusing as a candidate.

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    Dr. Conspiracy January 8, 2014 at 4:19 pm #

    Orly seemed to be saying that she was running independent of party.

    sfjeff: As a Californian, there is part of me which welcomes Orly’s candidacy- part of me welcomes any opportunity to taint the Republican Party with the Birther smell.

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    RanTalbott January 8, 2014 at 5:49 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: Orly seemed to be saying that she was running independent of party.

    Of course she is. But it’s not like she had a choice in the matter…

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    sfjeff January 9, 2014 at 11:25 am #

    Maybe that will be Orly’s campaign theme- “Too kooky for the Republicans, too bigoted for the Democrats- all Dentist/Real Estate agent/Lawyer!”

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    Jim January 9, 2014 at 12:11 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Orly seemed to be saying that she was running independent of party

    Well, since the Tea Party thinks she’s bat-sh*t crazy too, maybe she could run under her own party label,,,The Screech Party…her motto, of course, is “Let me feeeeeeeeeeeenish!!!” :D

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    Sef January 10, 2014 at 10:01 am #

    Interesting walk down memory lane. Your link to the Nullification Crisis of 1832 lead me to google Clement Haynsworth (similar to a link on the “Star of the West” page) Ah! Ye Goode Olde Days!

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    The Magic M January 10, 2014 at 10:44 am #

    sfjeff: Maybe that will be Orly’s campaign theme- “Too kooky for the Republicans, too bigoted for the Democrats- all Dentist/Real Estate agent/Lawyer!”

    In her world, “Even the Tea Party thinks I’m too extreme!” is a winning slogan.

    Robot Mayor: “We have with us today a guest whose irrational hatred for humans makes me look like a human sympathiser!” (Futurama – Fear of a Bot Planet)

    BTW said episode also contains another birther quote:

    Robot Mayor: “Well that makes 146,000 unsuccessful hunts in a row. But I’ve got a good feeling about tomorrow.”

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG January 10, 2014 at 12:37 pm #

    I thought her campaign slogan was “Let me feeeeeeeeeeenish!”

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    bob January 10, 2014 at 4:33 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Orly seemed to be saying that she was running independent of party.

    Under California’s relatively new jungle-primary rules, a candidate does not have to state his or her party affiliation on the ballot. But not doing so will cost Taitz votes.

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG January 11, 2014 at 3:38 pm #

    bob: Under California’s relatively new jungle-primary rules, a candidate does not have to state his or her party affiliation on the ballot.But not doing so will cost Taitz votes.

    Being Orly Taitz will cost her votes! Right now the bitchy old ghoul is combing over every photo and video still of Fuddy’s plane crash, basically pixel hunting for random shapes of things that might look like something that could possibly support her insane theories. Some days, her very existence sickens me.