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Pre-game show

I was thinking about Orly Taitz’ case to be decided in Mississippi at a telephonic hearing next Wednesday (January 22, 2014) and the articles I might write leading up to it, and I hope an interview with Scott Tepper (one of the defense attorneys) on RC Radio afterwards. It reminded me of pre-game television coverage of a really important sporting event.

Not being a lawyer, it’s hard for me to judge the legal importance of Taitz v. Democrat Party of Mississippi. I would think that the “big game” was Berg v. Obama in 2008, where we saw the birther conspiracy conspiracies presented in their purest form, and opposition by the federal government and then candidate Barack Obama. It established the precedent for such cases being dismissed for lack of standing; nevertheless, the Taitz case has several elements to make it interesting:

  • The first case defended by a fully-trained Obot
  • Reluctant plaintiffs, one evening requesting sanctions against Taitz for dragging her into it
  • Civil racketeering charges (RICO)
  • A wide range of defendants: a state political party, political defendants, federal defendants and Hawaii defendants (one not deceased)
  • A long paper trail (approaching 100 entries in the docket)
  • A real evidentiary-quality document, a Hawaii verification of the president’s birth certificate in the hands of the Court
  • The threat of defendants demanding sanctions, possibly amounting to 6 figures

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I’ve laid in a big supply of popcorn.

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29 Responses to Pre-game show

  1. avatar
    Bob January 19, 2014 at 9:26 am #

    Countdown to Orlygeddon

  2. avatar
    JPotter January 19, 2014 at 10:51 am #

    Teasing us with the trading card, Doc? Original, or has someone finally given that project a go?

  3. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy January 19, 2014 at 1:18 pm #

    My hasty mockup was intended to resemble a TV pre-game graphic, albeit over simplified.

    JPotter: Teasing us with the trading card, Doc?

  4. avatar
    CarlOrcas January 19, 2014 at 2:08 pm #

    Since shame doesn’t seem to slow her down I’m wondering about the sanctions.

    At what point, and in what way, will they be enforced? What are the ramifications if she doesn’t pay?

  5. avatar
    SueDB January 19, 2014 at 2:15 pm #

    JPotter:
    Teasing us with the trading card, Doc? Original, or has someone finally given that project a go?

    JPotter:
    Teasing us with the trading card, Doc? Original, or has someone finally given that project a go?

    A series of Looney Tuners Trading Cards – bigger than Pokeman.

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    Joey January 19, 2014 at 2:34 pm #

    Of particular significance to me, the Mississippi lawsuit is the only one in which both a Letter of Verification from the Hawaii state Registrar and a copy of the whitehouse.gov image of the President’s Long Form Birth Certificate have been submitted by the defense attorneys.

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    Joey January 19, 2014 at 2:37 pm #

    CarlOrcas:
    Since shame doesn’t seem to slow her down I’m wondering about the sanctions.

    At what point, and in what way, will they be enforced? What are the ramifications if she doesn’t pay?

    There is no “not pay” with federal court sanctions. They will simply take your assets.

  8. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy January 19, 2014 at 4:04 pm #

    This article may be of interest:

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/11/orly-refuses-to-pay-sanctions/

    CarlOrcas: At what point, and in what way, will they be enforced? What are the ramifications if she doesn’t pay?

  9. avatar
    CarlOrcas January 19, 2014 at 4:41 pm #

    Joey: There is no “not pay” with federal court sanctions. They will simply take your assets.

    I’ve read the link Doc supplied and understand how sanctions in favor of the government are handled but I have a question there as well. See that one.

    How about sanctions for other parties? Attorney’s fees, etc.?

  10. avatar
    CarlOrcas January 19, 2014 at 4:42 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    This article may be of interest:

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/11/orly-refuses-to-pay-sanctions/

    Yes, thank you.

    Now the simple question: Where does this matter stand? Did the government move against her? Or is it still in limbo?

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    Notorial Dissent January 19, 2014 at 6:20 pm #

    Wasn’t that about the time they started garnishment proceedings against her CA bank accounts and she was having hysterics over that??? I disremembers!!! Shortly thereafter didn’t she pay up?

  12. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy January 19, 2014 at 6:46 pm #

    The court ordered her to pay up and authorized collection on November 30, 2009. She resisted, ignoring the order as her appeal progressed. On August 2, 2010 the government filed a lien on all her real property for $20,000 plus interest. Her appeal lost, she wrote a $20,000 check on August 19. On the back of the check, she wrote:

    paid under protest as illegal extortion to cover obama’s fraud

    http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/2010/08/09/1223998/court-filing-creates-lien-on-birther.html

    Notorial Dissent: Wasn’t that about the time they started garnishment proceedings against her CA bank accounts and she was having hysterics over that??? I disremembers!!! Shortly thereafter didn’t she pay up?

  13. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy January 19, 2014 at 7:23 pm #

    For some reason, Taitz herself has written nothing that I can find about the hearing next Wednesday.

  14. avatar
    Jim January 19, 2014 at 7:55 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    For some reason, Taitz herself has written nothing that I can find about the hearing next Wednesday.

    Isn’t she on vacation or something? Knowing how her mind works, she probably believes if she ignores it, it doesn’t happen.

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    CarlOrcas January 19, 2014 at 8:06 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    The court ordered her to pay up and authorized collection on November 30, 2009. She resisted, ignoring the order as her appeal progressed. On August 2, 2010 the government filed a lien on all her real property for $20,000 plus interest. Her appeal lost, she wrote a $20,000 check on August 19. On the back of the check, she wrote:

    http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/2010/08/09/1223998/court-filing-creates-lien-on-birther.html

    That answers the basic question: How aggressive are they in collecting sanctions? “Very” would appear to be the correct answer.

    $20,000 isn’t exactly chump change but my guess would be that a seven figure judgment will make things real ugly in the Taitz home.

    I looked for the original sanction levy filing and couldn’t find it. Interested in knowing how it is worded and whether it provided her husband any protection. But….since California is a community property state it probably won’t make any difference.

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    CarlOrcas January 19, 2014 at 8:19 pm #

    Jim: Isn’t she on vacation or something?Knowing how her mind works, she probably believes if she ignores it, it doesn’t happen.

    Isn’t she in Russia? I though she mentioned something about it on her website a few days ago.

  17. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG January 19, 2014 at 9:24 pm #

    Something fun about to happen?
    I’ve been a bit preoccupied with my new Android MiniPC to pay much attention to birther stuffs this weekend.

  18. avatar
    Curious George January 19, 2014 at 9:27 pm #

    Joey
    January 19, 2014
    “Of particular significance to me, the Mississippi lawsuit is the only one in which both a Letter of Verification from the Hawaii state Registrar and a copy of the whitehouse.gov image of the President’s Long Form Birth Certificate have been submitted by the defense attorneys.”

    This destroys the foundation of every birther argument. Strike three!

  19. avatar
    Joey January 19, 2014 at 9:57 pm #

    Curious George:
    Joey
    January 19, 2014
    “Of particular significance to me, the Mississippi lawsuit is the only one in which both a Letter of Verification from the Hawaii state Registrar and a copy of the whitehouse.gov image of the President’s Long Form Birth Certificate have been submitted by the defense attorneys.”

    This destroys the foundation of every birther argument. Strike three!

    Yeah, that’s why I’m anxious for the Court’s orders!

  20. avatar
    Joey January 19, 2014 at 10:05 pm #

    For folks who may not have followed the Mississippi lawsuit too closely, additional interesting dynamics in play are the fact that the federal judge, Henry T. Wingate is African-American and he was an appointee of President Reagan.

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    Slartibartfast January 19, 2014 at 10:28 pm #

    So does that make him half treasonous and half honest in Orly’s view?

    Joey:
    For folks who may not have followed the Mississippi lawsuit too closely, additional interesting dynamics in play are the fact that the federal judge, Henry T. Wingate is African-American and he was an appointee of President Reagan.

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    Thinker January 20, 2014 at 12:07 am #

    I think the most interesting part of this lawsuit is that the Mississippi Democratic Party seems to be playing to win, not just to get her to go away, which is what most defendants have done. Since there is no doubt that she will lose, hopefully a well-written opinion by Judge Wingate will make it easier for the next defendants to get rid of her frivolous, nonsensical, legally vacuous lawsuit.

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    Lyssandri January 20, 2014 at 6:42 am #

    Only ONE of the Hawaii defendants is not deceased? :-)

  24. avatar
    James M January 20, 2014 at 12:31 pm #

    CarlOrcas: Isn’t she in Russia? I though she mentioned something about it on her website a few days ago.

    If she believed in her own screed, she would never leave the country. Why does she believe she would be allowed to return, with the u***ping k***an m*****t in the white house and all?

  25. avatar
    bob January 20, 2014 at 1:52 pm #

    It was reported that Taitz was in Israel visiting family, but is now back in the United States.

  26. avatar
    Bob January 20, 2014 at 2:07 pm #

    I’m predicting Orly will ask to delay the conference due to some technical difficulty or just not “show up” and give some laughable excuse.

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    Joey January 20, 2014 at 2:09 pm #

    Slartibartfast:
    So does that make him half treasonous and half honest in Orly’s view?

    To be decided by how he rules.
    Two federal judges who have incurred Orly’s wrath are Clay Land who sanctioned her $20,000, a George W. Bush appointee and Royce Lamberth who makes fun of her in his rulings, another Reagan appointee.

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    Keith January 20, 2014 at 5:01 pm #

    CarlOrcas: Isn’t she in Russia? I though she mentioned something about it on her website a few days ago.

    Trying to get to see Snowden?

  29. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy January 20, 2014 at 6:32 pm #

    Remember Orly’s headline from last November:

    “German officials will be meeting with snowden in Russia. when criminal charges are filed against Obama in the International criminal court in Hague, I will submit all evidence of him stealing the U.s. presidency with a stolen Social Security numbers and fabricated IDs, as well as evidence on every judge, US and state attorney, governmental official and member of the media who were criminally complicit. actually UN reporteur on civil rights defenders has all the evidence in front of her already”

    Keith: Trying to get to see Snowden?