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Sheriff Joe’s close call

The records indicate that FBI agents found probable cause to recommend felony counts of obstructing criminal investigations of prosecutions, theft by threats, tampering with witnesses, perjury and theft by extortion.

USA Today

The Arizona Republic newspaper web site broke the story after they obtained pages of heavily redacted material from the FBI relating to the criminal investigation of the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office. The investigation was closed in 2012 after federal prosecutors said that they didn’t have a guaranteed win, going against FBI investigator recommendations to file charges against at least 2 individuals.

I wasn’t going to cover the story because it talks about unproven allegations, but I see it’s getting some traction, and belongs in the record. As Perry Mason would say, “it goes to credibility, Your Honor.”

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19 Responses to Sheriff Joe’s close call

  1. avatar
    bgansel9 March 8, 2014 at 11:16 am #

    Dang it! All my freebie views are up for this month. You’d think that since I service their customers, they’d let me read their site unabated. Was this today? I saw nothing on the front page about it. If it was in the paper today, they buried it. Perhaps I’ll have to go out to the car and get my free paper and open it up.

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    Dr. Conspiracy March 8, 2014 at 11:19 am #

    The USA Today web article was yesterday. The Arizona Republic web site is the better source anyway.

    http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/articles/20140306report-fbi-had-urged-charges-maricopa-county-inquiry.html?nclick_check=1

    bgansel9: Dang it! All my freebie views are up for this month.

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    bgansel9 March 8, 2014 at 11:40 am #

    Well, while I deliver both, I can’t read the Arizona Republic site. I’m tapped out. I’ll head out to the car and check yesterday’s paper. I believe I had one left over. Thanks! I also found a Daily Kos article on this from yesterday.

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    bgansel9 March 8, 2014 at 11:56 am #

    I found it, it was on page B1 (and continued on B5) of yesterday’s paper. Thanks!

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    Dr. Conspiracy March 8, 2014 at 12:18 pm #

    What does MCCCP have to do with Birther Report, besides sycophantic sucking up?

    Nancy Ruth Owens: About a month ago I was able to post on the BirtherReport website, for the first time, without my posts being censored and/or deleted altogether. And, now the MCCCP wants to transfer to a new webhost?

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    Nancy Ruth Owens March 8, 2014 at 12:42 pm #

    ROFL

    I guess I never really thought about it.
    Are they not one and the same?
    I know they’re all Obot sites.
    Who is the site monitor if not Zullo/Arpaio/MCCCP?
    Falcon?

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    Joey March 8, 2014 at 1:32 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    What does MCCCP have to do with Birther Report, besides sycophantic sucking up?

    Nancy’s confused (again), as usual.

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    Dr. Conspiracy March 8, 2014 at 1:43 pm #

    It’s not Arpaio–he doesn’t even know how to use email, and Birther Report was around long before Zullo came on the scene.

    The actual person behind Birther Report remains undisclosed.

    Nancy Ruth Owens:
    ROFL

    I guess I never really thought about it.
    Are they not one and the same?
    I know they’re all Obot sites.
    Who is the site monitor if not Zullo/Arpaio/MCCCP?
    Falcon?

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    bgansel9 March 8, 2014 at 2:39 pm #

    Nancy Ruth Owens: Falcon?

    So is this how you do deductive reasoning to come to the conclusions that you do? Pretty shoddy work for a “journalist.”

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    helen March 8, 2014 at 3:53 pm #

    tWell, it is interesting, is it not?
    The FBI wanted toprosecute someone, and who that might be in unknown to me, and the DOJ prosecuter said there was not enough to convict?

    And whom shall we believe, the FBI or the DOJ?

    Wait, they are both DOJ are they not?

    So, the reason for non-prosecution lies with the DOJ attorneys, who have the same boss, and that would be the Attorney General of the USA, who, of course, is there to protect the leader and the country, is he not?

    Was there a quid pro quo in these actions?

    Wouldn’t be with FBI would it?

    I don’t know, and don’t think anything more will come of it.

    If DOJ doesn’t want to prosecute, why attack Joe and group?

    Attack the DOJ!

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    Keith March 8, 2014 at 6:48 pm #

    From the Phoenix New Times:

    Roger Byg, Former Member of Joe Arpaio’s Posse, Arrested on Child-Porn Charges

    According to the Sheriff’s Office, 73-year-old Roger Byg was a posse member in the old-folks community of Sun City and even had served on the posse’s board before resigning early last year. MCSO’s computer crimes division detectives served a search warrant Thursday at his Sun City home.

    Sun City is next door to Surprise, amirite?

    Recall that a couple of years ago, CBS 5 found that several of Arpaio’s posse members had criminal records, including “arrests for assault, drug possession, domestic violence, sex crimes against children, disorderly conduct, impersonating an officer — and the list goes on.”

    Of course they don’t say exactly which posse… or does the Shurf have just one BIG posse?

    Also recall that an old political ally of Arpaio’s, former minuteman Chris Simcox, was arrested last year on child-molestation charges. Simcox wasn’t a member of Arpaio’s posse, but it seems relevant given the fact that Arpaio’s office under-worked hundreds of sex-crime cases, while a handful went completely uninvestigated.

    This is almost making me wonder about something more than just coincidence here…

    Joe’s close call indeed.

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    bgansel9 March 8, 2014 at 7:18 pm #

    About halfway down this page you’ll find the listing of the various posses:

    http://www.mcso.org/About/Posse.aspx

    Sun City has it’s own posse.

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    Dr. Conspiracy March 8, 2014 at 7:30 pm #

    The difference is in the standard. Probable cause in one case, and beyond a reasonable doubt in the other. OJ Simpson got two different results under two different standards of proof.

    helen: The FBI wanted toprosecute someone, and who that might be in unknown to me, and the DOJ prosecuter said there was not enough to convict?

    And whom shall we believe, the FBI or the DOJ?

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    CarlOrcas March 8, 2014 at 8:29 pm #

    helen: tWell, it is interesting, is it not?
    The FBI wanted toprosecute someone, and who that might be in unknown to me, and the DOJ prosecuter said there was not enough to convict?

    And whom shall we believe, the FBI or the DOJ?

    In the real world you can believe both of them because that’s how things work. Every day, in the real world, police investigate incidents, prepare reports, even arrest people, only to later have a prosecutor decline to take the case forward….either by information or to a grand jury. It happens all the time….in the real world.

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    CarlOrcas March 8, 2014 at 8:34 pm #

    Keith: This is almost making me wonder about something more than just coincidence here…

    Like what?

    FYI….as bganse19 noted there are lots of posses….several dozen as I recall…..with a total of several thousand posse members.

    I believe there are two posses in the the Sun Cities…..one in the original area and the other in Sun City West, or something like that.

    As I’ve said before some of the posses do a lot of good work…..the Sun City posses among them. The most valuable, in my opinion, are the search and rescue units. They are top notch.

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    Punchmaster via mobile March 8, 2014 at 8:36 pm #

    The only posse’s findings I care about is ICP’s investigation into how magnets work.

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    bgansel9 March 8, 2014 at 8:51 pm #

    CarlOrcas: I believe there are two posses in the the Sun Cities…..one in the original area and the other in Sun City West, or something like that.

    That is correct.

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    Keith March 8, 2014 at 11:07 pm #

    bgansel9:
    About halfway down this page you’ll find the listing of the various posses:

    http://www.mcso.org/About/Posse.aspx

    Sun City has it’s own posse.

    Yes. It was a rhetorical question calling attention to the fact that the article didn’t specify which posse. Most readers will only be familiar with one particular posse that has had a lot of exposure the last couple of years. I don’t really think that is fair on the other posses that actually do good work.

    CarlOrcas: Like what?

    Just trying to raise the profile of some innuendo ;-). The Shurf is seen to have gone out of his way to cater to the Surprise/Sun City folk for the last few years. What if his hands off approach to violent sex crimes was influenced by someone in the posse that needs ‘protection’. Posse members are supposed to be ‘upstanding’ citizens, yet the Shurf is has allowed child pornographers on his posse.

    FYI….as bganse19 noted there are lots of posses….several dozen as I recall…..with a total of several thousand posse members.

    I believe there are two posses in the the Sun Cities…..one in the original area and the other in Sun City West, or something like that.

    As I said. The article didn’t say that – anything could be read into it. I know there are lots of posses. The article just said ‘the Sheriff’s Posse’ which indicates there is only one.

    As I’ve said before some of the posses do a lot of good work…..the Sun City posses among them. The most valuable, in my opinion, are the search and rescue units. They are top notch.

    Absolutely. I am not, nor would I ever, imply anything Search and Rescue. I was considering trying to get into the Pima County S&R Posse, but then I had to leave Tucson for work commitments (and then life commitments).

    On the other hand, suppose the Posse this guy was on was involved in School outreach? That’s putting a child pornographer into direct contact with his potential victims. Do you think that the parents in Maricopa County might be interested in what this guy was involved in?

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    Notorial Dissent March 8, 2014 at 11:30 pm #

    Probably another consideration to the prosecutor was that bearing in mind that Maricopa County has continually re-elected Shurf Joe despite the immense amount of money he has cost them in settlements, 53 million and rising, that they figured that if they were dumb enough to do that, a Maricopa jury would be dumb enough to ignore whatever evidence was presented in court. Never underestimate stupidity and gullibility, it’ll bite you in the butt every time.