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Birthers punk themselves

I dropped by Birther Report this morning to read an article about “Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Startling New Evidence,” an article that had nothing from Sheriff Joe at all (these titles must be some kind of subliminal mind control trick). A comment by William starting, “Something every American should consider with Obots” caught my eye because it claimed that no Obot had ever filed a FOIA for Obama’s records. Readers here know I’ve filed several. Reading on I found something else in that comment by William that I replied to:

William: “Why do the Main Obots personally meet and coordinate fabrication of false documents to send to Courts and Attorneys with a direct attempt to obfuscate discovery of Obama, then brag about it?”

I replied:

Anti-birthers meet because they are an interesting group and enjoy each other’s company. I’ve been to two of the Obot meetups personally and it’s been a very good experience. These folks are intelligent and have fascinating personal stories.

Some anti-birthers get their fun from demonstrating that birthers are credulous and easily fooled–punking the birthers. Personally, I don’t find such things very challenging. Birthers fool themselves with fake documents without our help, and there is no reason for folks like me to add to the confusion. My chosen creative expression tends towards satire. I am not aware of any anti-birther ever sending a fake document to any court. Fakes, such as the fake Bomford Kenyan birther certificate were sent to Orly Taitz who irresponsibly filed it with a court, even though she had no knowledge of even where it came from. Phil Berg even filed in federal court a fake Canadian birth certificate for Obama signed by “Dudley Do Right!”

Now, shall we go through the list of fake documents from birthers (either created by them or used by them as authentic)?

  • (2) Fake Kenyan National Intelligence Service letters
  • Grandmother tape, edited to remove statement that Obama was born in Hawaii
  • Lucas Smith Fake Kenyan birth Certificate
  • Lucas Smith fake Kenyan extradition complaint
  • Zullo’s fake 1960-61 Race Code table
  • Daily Pen doctored vital statistics report
  • Photo of Obama’s grandparents with Obama Photoshopped out (published by Jack Cashill)
  • Nude photos intentionally and falsely identified as Obama’s mother
  • Fake photo of Obama wearing rubber suit
  • 2 fake John McCain birth certificates (from McCain birthers)
  • Fake Welcome to Kenya birthplace of Barack Obama road sign
  • Fake birth certificate anomalies by TechDude
  • Fake Hawaiian birth certificate for Obama registered by his grandmother
  • Obama snippets spoof video edited to make Obama say he was born in Kenya, altered by Birthers to remove SPOOF notice

Birthers punk themselves far more often than Obots do.


I count the trip to Atlanta for the Farrar hearing as a “meetup” although it wasn’t of the official ones. I still met lots of folks and their families and we went out to eat.

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43 Responses to Birthers punk themselves

  1. avatar
    Jim April 29, 2014 at 10:20 am #

    It’s been enjoyable getting to know some of the regulars here and over at TFB, people from all over the world. So, I guess what I’m trying to say is…

    THANKS BIRTHERS, FOR BEING SUCH IDIOTS! :D

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 29, 2014 at 10:30 am #

    Speaking of Sherfjoe(all one word), Anyone else notice that he personally hasn’t said a single thing about, or has indicated that he’s still with, the “investigation”, yet birthers still talk like HE is the one saying all this stuff? I think it’s because they perceive him as a genuine figure of power, and thus treat him as a figurehead. Sometimes they seem to be worshiping him.

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    Upgradedd April 29, 2014 at 11:00 am #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Sometimes they seem to be worshiping him.

    Sometimes? … they are the ones that are really “Kneeling at an Alter” although it’s one of their favorite lines to describe anyone that doesn’t believe their Twitfodder.

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    Arthur April 29, 2014 at 11:46 am #

    The birther named “William” is one of the most comically clueless regulars at B.R. He repeats long debunked birther claims as if they’ve just been discovered, e.g., “If Obama was born in Hawaii, why does every hospital in the state deny he was born there.”

  5. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 29, 2014 at 11:58 am #

    A bunch of them are trotting out the nonsense that they believe answers the fake Zullo race code table.

    Typically, I get a flurry of responses on stuff like that and then I pour on the documentation, and they shut up for the time being.

    Arthur: He repeats long debunked birther claims

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 29, 2014 at 12:03 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    A bunch of them are trotting out the nonsense that they believe answers the fake Zullo race code table.

    Typically, I get a flurry of responses on stuff like that and then I pour on the documentation, and they shut up for the time being.

    I’m surprised they haven’t started with the homoerotic insults yet. That’s usually their go-to answer to everything!

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    Arthur April 29, 2014 at 12:06 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: Typically, I get a flurry of responses on stuff like that and then I pour on the documentation, and they shut up for the time being.

    I just read the series of comments promoted by your posts. It’s revealing to note how the presentation of dispassionate evidence angers the commenters at B.R., and how quickly they rise to the use of obscenities and threats of violence. It seems that the continued delay of Zullo’s earth-shattering evidence is unnerving birthers everywhere.

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    Arthur April 29, 2014 at 12:08 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: I’m surprised they haven’t started with the homoerotic insults yet.

    Well, there’s this from “Regan’s Ghost”:

    “Dude, I might just come out of retirement to slap the cuffs on you MYSELF. Some rules to remember while in prison: 1)don’t drop the soap; 2)always sleep on your back and 3)if Bath House Barry is your roomie, forget rules 1 & 2.”

  9. avatar
    Joey April 29, 2014 at 12:18 pm #

    I consider making fun of birthers to be akin to making fun of the school children on the short bus.

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 29, 2014 at 12:25 pm #

    Arthur: Well, there’s this from “Regan’s Ghost”:

    “Dude, I might just come out of retirement to slap the cuffs on you MYSELF. Some rules to remember while in prison: 1)don’t drop the soap; 2)always sleep on your back and 3)if Bath House Barry is your roomie, forget rules 1 & 2.”

    Its no fun when your opposition is so damned predictable! :)

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 29, 2014 at 12:29 pm #

    They have.

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: I’m surprised they haven’t started with the homoerotic insults yet. That’s usually their go-to answer to everything!

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 29, 2014 at 1:10 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    They have.

    I noticed your very coy “come at me, bro” vibe, with the comment about Skype. The following response was a non-sequitur about how Stalin could have used a man like you, or some such nonsense. Why, it’s almost as if you knew they would chicken out or something! ;)

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    Crustacean April 29, 2014 at 2:01 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: I noticed your very coy “come at me, bro” vibe, with the comment about Skype.

    Oh, yeah, I really enjoyed that, too. Scott is, as my father-in-law would put it, a piece of work.

    I am so glad Lent is over. I can finally enjoy reading Birther Report again. It’s a fascinating study in intellectual dysfunction to see how the condemned souls there respond to Doc’s comments. He’s so reasonable in the face of ridiculously childish insults. That they somehow take away from this that he is “worried” and “desperate” says a heck of a lot more about them than it does about Kevin Davidson.

    Keep on birfin’, birfers. If laughter really is the best medicine, you are all life savers!

    (rebuttal from Scott: yeah, I’m a life saver, you [insert vile, homophobic, insulting name here] so you can suck on me as I make love to my hot, hot wife – and neither of us will even bother to take off our AK-47s. That’s just how manly we are.)

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    Jim April 29, 2014 at 2:41 pm #

    Well, their “Universe-Shattering” didn’t happen, so now they’re going for “Beyond Unverse-Shattering”. And when that doesn’t happen, I guess they’ll go for “Dimension-Shattering”! What a group of rubes.

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    aarrgghh April 29, 2014 at 4:02 pm #

    birfers treat doc as if he were no different from butterdezilion — a publisher of crank “research”.

    except of course, despite her naked lunacy, butter actually got a fair hearing from most anti-birfers.

  16. avatar
    Bonsall Obot April 29, 2014 at 4:35 pm #

    The mere mention of Doc, or of RC, or of Foggy, sends them into shrieking paroxysms of undifferentiated rage. It would be more amusing if we didn’t know that they fantasize about violence every waking moment, and that they sometimes snap, and that some (including the aforementioned Butterdezillion) have alienated their families in favor of their delusions.

    These are the people the blogger Driftglass refers to as The Tribe That Rubs Shit In Their Hair.

  17. avatar
    Thinker April 29, 2014 at 4:52 pm #

    What about the fake “Foreign Student” Columbia ID? Was that part of the April Fool’s Day prank about Obama’s being a foreign student at Occidental?

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    ArthurWankspittle April 29, 2014 at 5:26 pm #

    Arthur: Well, there’s this from “Regan’s Ghost”:

    “Dude, I might just come out of retirement to slap the cuffs on you MYSELF.

    I wonder what the charge would be? Being in Maricopa County while having a surname ending in a “Z”? Turning up to an NBA match with a black friend?

  19. avatar
    Jim April 29, 2014 at 5:37 pm #

    Doc, you’re having entirely too much fun over there…Thanks for the laughs!!! :lol:

  20. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 29, 2014 at 5:54 pm #

    It’s like shooting fish in a barrel with RPGs.

    Crustacean: He’s so reasonable in the face of ridiculously childish insults

  21. avatar
    RanTalbott April 29, 2014 at 6:42 pm #

    You left out the fake “Selective Service Registration” that was actually a fraudulent change of address (wasn’t that by Kerchner? Who’s still out there as a drum major leading the parade of fools?).

  22. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 29, 2014 at 8:04 pm #

    Exchange at BR:

    Dr. Conspiracy: Serious question: The article says, “Sometime in the coming months, Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse has indicated that it will release startling new evidence related to Barack Obama’s personal history and the alleged cover-up to hide the truth from the American people.”

    What was the most recent statement direct from Arpaio personally about any kind of investigation of Obama by the MSCO? You guys probably follow him more closely than I do.

    eyeball news; the most recent was, “what that whistleblower from the bathhouse gave us, the kenyan fudgepacker will get 20 years.”

    Dr. Conspiracy: Do you have a link?

  23. avatar
    Thomas Brown April 29, 2014 at 10:14 pm #

    Is “Regan’s Ghost” supposed to be “Reagan’s Ghost?” And does that mean he’s just too dumb and lazy to learn how to spell his own hero’s last name?

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    bgansel9 April 29, 2014 at 10:14 pm #

    Arthur: Well, there’s this from “Regan’s Ghost”

    Who is Regan? The only Regan I remember was the young female character in The Exorcist.

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    bgansel9 April 29, 2014 at 10:15 pm #

    Thomas Brown: Is “Regan’s Ghost” supposed to be “Reagan’s Ghost?” And does that mean he’s just too dumb and lazy to learn how to spell his own hero’s last name?

    Yes, yes it does!

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    bgansel9 April 29, 2014 at 10:21 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Exchange at BR:

    Dr. Conspiracy: Serious question: The article says, “Sometime in the coming months, Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse has indicated that it will release startling new evidence related to Barack Obama’s personal history and the alleged cover-up to hide the truth from the American people.”

    What was the most recent statement direct from Arpaio personally about any kind of investigation of Obama by the MSCO? You guys probably follow him more closely than I do.

    eyeball news; the most recent was, “what that whistleblower from the bathhouse gave us, the kenyan fudgepacker will get 20 years.”

    Dr. Conspiracy: Do you have a link?

    Eyeball News is wrong. The most recent info was every time I call the MCSO they state that Arpaio and the MCSO are not conducting a birther investigation.

  27. avatar
    Arthur April 29, 2014 at 10:34 pm #

    Thomas Brown: And does that mean he’s just too dumb and lazy to learn how to spell his own hero’s last name?

    He’s probably related to the birther who used to comment at B.R. and who misspelled his hero’s name as “John Gault.”

  28. avatar
    Arthur April 29, 2014 at 10:35 pm #

    bgansel9: Who is Regan?

    There’s also Shakespeare’s Regan, one of Lear’s daughters from “King Lear.”

    Now come one, we need to give these folks a break. When you spend all your time being patriotismist, it’s hard to check your spelling.

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    Jim April 29, 2014 at 11:56 pm #

    bgansel9: Eyeball News is wrong. The most recent info was every time I call the MCSO they state that Arpaio and the MCSO are not conducting a birther investigation.

    Wouldn’t it be fun if the anti-birthers treated the MCSO the way that the birthers treat the Hawaii DOH? Hundreds of calls, letters, FOIA requests…on a daily basis. We could stop when Arpaio announces there is no investigation.

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    The Magic M April 30, 2014 at 4:13 am #

    Arthur: He’s probably related to the birther who used to comment at B.R. and who misspelled his hero’s name as “John Gault.”

    More than half of the birthers can’t spell “Arpaio” or “Barack”, but they all can spell “Orly Taitz”. (I guess that’s a side effect from never using real names when talking about “the other side” but only childish modifications like “Obummer”, “Hitlery” or “Piglosi”.)

  31. avatar
    faceman May 1, 2014 at 5:39 am #

    I checked out the BR article’s link to Sheriff Joe’s ‘new evidence. It’s from a article dated last December about a ‘universe-shattering’ announcement perhaps as early as March. Does anyone remember what that announcement was? (Sarcasm)

  32. avatar
    bgansel9 May 1, 2014 at 5:51 pm #

    Jim: Wouldn’t it be fun if the anti-birthers treated the MCSO the way that the birthers treat the Hawaii DOH? Hundreds of calls, letters, FOIA requests…on a daily basis. We could stop when Arpaio announces there is no investigation.

    Yes, I think this should be done every day and as often as can be managed.

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    gorefan May 1, 2014 at 8:23 pm #

    Saw this comment at BR by Doug Vogt:

    “Paul Irey and myself have over 83 years experience in the graphics/type and scanner business. A forensic document examiner takes a course over the internet, pays $800 and 98% of them pass and get the certificate. I had to send my chapter on evidence of computer manipulation to the Arizona Sheriffs office who sent it to Reed Hayes so he would learn more about Photoshop and how Adobe created the JBIG2 compression layer. He did not know it. He is a hand writing expert and worse yet he only worked from the PDF copy that there was no chain of custody. He is NOT an expert on type and what Paul and I covered in my affidavits.
    Also and maybe the most important, if you bothered to read the law you would see there is NO requirement being a forensic examiner. I know you are trying to make some kind of excuse so people will not read my stuff–its not going to work. A lot of people are learning the truth and lies from the Obots are not going to cover up Obama’s lies and fraud. Your days are numbered.”

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/04/doc-expert-updates-obama-id-fraud-case.html

    I guess he doesn’t want to share the limelight with Reed Hayes.

  34. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy May 1, 2014 at 9:25 pm #

    To which I replied:

    Let me make this perfectly clear. Neither you nor Irey is minimally qualified or even marginally competent for the kind of claims you are making. Neither of you is recognized as a expert in any forensic venue. Neither of you has ever been qualified to testify in court. Neither of you teaches forensics. Neither of you has ever made a living by examining documents. Neither of you has published a peer-reviewed paper on forensics. In fact Obama’s birth certificate is probably the first document you’ve ever examined to determine forgery. You’re not even amateurs. You’re beginners.

    Irey knows how to use a typewriter, and he knows something about typesetting. He has no experience and background in forgery detection, he has no experience in a broad range of typewriters and their malfunctions, and most importantly he has zero experience with electronic documents. Irey’s initial analysis was basically confusing anomalies in typewriting with artifacts of JBIG2 compression.

    You know something about scanners, but you have proven clueless about the advanced compression software used by modern PDF generation systems. Dr. de Queiroz, an academic, former research scientist, and holder of several patents on PDF compression took one look at Obama’s PDF and understood what it was, MRC compression. Based on your early papers, you’d never heard of it.

    A real document examiner (and any court recognized expert) uses the scientific method and recognized methodologies. You just make stuff up as you go along. You and Irey are doing nothing but reporting your biases.

    You and Irey are are not experts on document forensics. You are self-deluded frauds. You are poster children for the Dunning-Kruger effect. No real expert believes you, and they never will.

    And don’t trot out Reed Hayes. His report is so bad that even Zullo won’t let it see the light of day.

    gorefan: Saw this comment at BR by Doug Vogt:

  35. avatar
    Hermitian May 2, 2014 at 9:42 am #

    Mr. C.

    “”William: “Why do the Main Obots personally meet and coordinate fabrication of false documents to send to Courts and Attorneys with a direct attempt to obfuscate discovery of Obama, then brag about it?””

    “Birthers fool themselves with fake documents without our help, and there is no reason for folks like me to add to the confusion. My chosen creative expression tends towards satire.”

    Sure! When pigs can fly !

    What about your 2009 “RECONSTRUCTION” of the Obama long-form birth certificate ?

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/08/the-long-form-reconstructed/

    I’m sure you created your masterpiece completely in a bubble without contact with anyone in the new Obama administration or with other Obots.

    [That is correct. All the sources for information in my reconstruction, a graphic compilation of public information, are detailed in the article. It is in no way a "fake" since it is clearly labeled a "reconstruction" and no one ever submitted it to a court. Doc.]

    And this was a full 18 months before the Obama LFCOLB was released.

    And certainly we can rest assured that you spoke to no one in Hawaii about your shady activities. Nor did you provide your masterpiece to anyone at the HDOH or to the Hawaii Attorney General’s office?

    [Of course not. The Hawaii Department of Health has a real birth certificate; why would they be interested in my publication public information? A well-sourced research project is not in any sense "shady" and your use of such a term confirms that you are not a responsible commenter. Doc.]

    Just exactly how does one “RECONSTRUCT” a document that doesn’t exist yet?

    [I don't know what you mean. Obama's birth certificate certainly exists. We have the testimony of three officials who have viewed the original in Hawaii, three official verifications of its contents, and a certified copy shown to the press. Doc.]

    “I am not aware of any anti-birther ever sending a fake document to any court.”

    So you don’t include any of Obama’s pro-bono attorneys in the great hoard of anti-birthers?

    How about Scott Tepper who is one of Obama’s two pro-bono attorneys in SD Mississippi Federal Court? And he is also a co-founder of TheFogBow.Com ? You don’t consider him an anti-birther? He’s a daily commenter on the FogBow.

    [Scott Tepper is certainly an anti-birther. He doesn't count as an example for you because he didn't send any fake document to a court. You are not invited to re-hash your crank views that the Mississippi filing was a fake. That has been discussed at length already. The "b" in Fogbow is not capitalized. Doc.]

  36. avatar
    Thomas Brown May 2, 2014 at 10:13 am #

    You’re a dolt, Henry. I wonder: do you refuse to use escalators that say “Up” because they do not also say “Not Down?”

  37. avatar
    Arthur May 2, 2014 at 10:19 am #

    Thomas Brown: do you refuse to use escalators that say “Up” because they do not also say “Not Down?”

    Or, “Whites Only”?

  38. avatar
    Reality Check May 2, 2014 at 10:44 am #

    Hermie still thinks that Mr. Begley and Mr. Tepper submitted a brand new forgery to the court in Mississippi. Actually all they did was print a copy of the LFBC posted at Whitehouse.gov and scan it. Hermie is unable to discern a simple scan from a forgery. His is one of the more preposterous claims made by a Birther. NBC and W. Kevin Vicklund destroyed his affidavit at NBC’s blog.

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    Hermitian May 2, 2014 at 2:12 pm #

    Mr. C..

    “”And certainly we can rest assured that you spoke to no one in Hawaii about your shady activities. Nor did you provide your masterpiece to anyone at the HDOH or to the Hawaii Attorney General’s office?””

    “[Of course not. The Hawaii Department of Health has a real birth certificate; why would they be interested in my publication public information?…”

    Then how did you acquire a blank Hawaii BC form (with seal impression) without contacting Hawaii ?

    [If you had read my article, you would have known the answer. I said then, "I took a birth certificate from 1963 and reconstructed a Barack Obama birth certificate with the most accurate content I could." A couple of lines down, I linked to the 1963 Alan certificate. I found that on the Internet. I mentioned the Alan certificate back in December of 2008. Doc]

    http://media.photobucket.com/user/missnry/media/Hawaii-Birth-Cert.jpg.html?filtersterm=nordyke twins birth certificate hawaii&filters[primary]=images

    Or did you just go to your file and pull it out?

    [Yes, I keep every relevant birth certificate I can find on the Internet in my files and I had the Alan certificate on hand. (I fixed your link to a reconstructed blank certificate form.) A real blank form wouldn't look like the one you showed because it is on security paper and is sealed. A real blank has neither security paper not seal--those are indica of a certified copy. Of course I was reconstructing a certified copy and so I could start with one and just paint (clone paint tool) out the old information. Doc.]

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    nbc May 2, 2014 at 4:05 pm #

    Reality Check: Hermie still thinks that Mr. Begley and Mr. Tepper submitted a brand new forgery to the court in Mississippi. Actually all they did was print a copy of the LFBC posted at Whitehouse.gov and scan it. Hermie is unable to discern a simple scan from a forgery. His is one of the more preposterous claims made by a Birther. NBC and W. Kevin Vicklund destroyed his affidavit at NBC’s blog.

    Is Hermie still struggling with that one? Vicklund and I laid that one to rest more than a year ago. Poor Hermie, he is so slow.

  41. avatar
    Hermitian May 2, 2014 at 7:43 pm #

    [Stuff deleted. Doc.]

    http://media.photobucket.com/user/missnry/media/Hawaii-Birth-Cert.jpg.html?filtersterm=nordyke%20twins%20birth%20certificate%20hawaii&filtersprimary=images

    What a Dolt !

    If you had checked out your link that I posted you would have found the blank form (with seal impression) that I referenced. After all this Gray blank form is in your photobucket account.

    [I did check out your link, but it didn't make any sense because I don't have a Photobucket account. That account belongs to "missnry," someone I have never heard of who uploaded a form I have never seen before. The only way such a blank form could occur would be for someone to get a filled out form, and clear out the text, the same way I did with the Alan form to make my reconstruction. Doc.]

    [Stuff deleted. See RC about the halos. Doc.]

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    gorefan May 2, 2014 at 8:37 pm #

    Hermitian: What a Dolt !

    That’s Edith Coats 1962 BC.

    http://passportsusa.com/wp-content/gallery/passportusa/edith_front.jpg

    They did a lousy job editing out the name of the hospital but a decent job getting rid of the person’s thumb. You can see a little of Verna Lee’s initials along the right side.

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    Dr. Conspiracy May 2, 2014 at 9:25 pm #

    And I did have a copy of that on my hard drive. Interesting that you can’t see the penciled codes on it, except for Block 16: Austria : 2.

    gorefan: That’s Edith Coats 1962 BC.