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Most Wanted: Lucas Daniel Smith

While Lucas Smith says he’s wanted in Kenya for bribing an official, he has more immediate problems closer to home:

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The image above is cropped from the current Cedar Rapids Iowa “Most Wanted” poster. Smith is wanted for felony revocation of probation[,] theft & IWOA (interference with official acts – Iowa statute 719.1).

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81 Responses to Most Wanted: Lucas Daniel Smith

  1. avatar
    Northland10 April 21, 2014 at 7:10 pm #

    Reality Check:
    This was a comment at he, Lucas Smith’s blog:

    “….Why would he tie his attorney’s hands behind his back and prevent him from contacting the US government in an extradition situation? Why it is almost as if Lucas had something to hide or wasn’t really concerned about the extradition at all.”

    For Lucas, contacting the US Government has complications:

    CEDAR RAPIDS MOST WANTED
    (3/27/14)

    LUCAS DANIEL SMITH
    Date of birth: 1/4/80
    “AT LARGE”
    FELONY REVOCATION OF PROBATION THEFT & IWOA

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    Rickey April 21, 2014 at 7:57 pm #

    Northland10: For Lucas, contacting the US Government has complications:

    Which begs the question – is it actually the U.S. government which is trying to have him extradited?

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    Reality Check April 21, 2014 at 8:16 pm #

    I believe that Lucas may have fabricated the entire Kenyan extradition story after he found out Iowa was after him. I am not up on how quickly a state might file an extradition request once they find out a fugitive has fled the country. This is so Smith-like to take reality and create a complete fantasy from it. I think he is off his rocker.

    Rickey: Which begs the question – is it actually the U.S. government which is trying to have him extradited?

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    Arthur April 21, 2014 at 9:00 pm #

    Northland10: For Lucas, contacting the US Government has complications:

    That’s a nice picture of Lucas . . . proving once again, that orange is the new black.

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    mimi April 21, 2014 at 10:02 pm #

    And there you have it, birthers.

    Lucas Daniel Smith on the CEDAR RAPIDS MOST WANTED list.

    Click on ‘complications’ for the link:

    Northland10: For Lucas, contacting the US Government has complications:

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 21, 2014 at 10:17 pm #

    Wonderful tip. Thanks.

    Northland10: CEDAR RAPIDS MOST WANTED

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    Arthur April 21, 2014 at 10:17 pm #

    mimi: Lucas Daniel Smith on the CEDAR RAPIDS MOST WANTED list.

    Of course, it’s not that hard to get on the most wanted list of Cedar Rapids, Iowa. For example, here are some previous most wanted:

    Norm Lufteller, wanted for malicious cow tipping.

    Abner LeBlanc, wanted for allowing the rhubarb in his alley to get out of control.

    Chubby Pantsalot, wanted for using his lawnmower before 9 a.m. on a Saturday.

    Lu-Etta Parasol, wanted for trying to pass herself off as a 1st soprano at Our Lady of Sorrows choir auditions.

  8. avatar
    Paul April 21, 2014 at 10:19 pm #

    Obviously a set-up by Obama’s thugs.

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    Dave April 21, 2014 at 10:29 pm #

    I can’t even parse “felony revocation of probation theft” much less understand it, and Google is barely helping. Best guess I can make is that he was on probation for felony theft, and probation has been revoked, hence a warrant for his arrest. Am I close?

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 21, 2014 at 10:35 pm #

    My best guess is that there’s a comma missing and it should read:

    “felony revocation of probation, theft and IWOA”

    Dave: I can’t even parse “felony revocation of probation theft”

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    Arthur April 21, 2014 at 10:58 pm #

    Dave: I can’t even parse “felony revocation of probation theft” much less understand it,

    I had the same issue, but Dr. C. may be correct about a missing comma. It could be that Lucas violated his probation by stealing something, and then added to his violation by “interfering with official acts” or IWOA.

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    Lucas Daniel Smith April 21, 2014 at 11:04 pm #

    It appears that I have a warrant for my arrest in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.

    Viewing online records at the official “Iowa Courts Online” website it appears that the warrant was issued on July 15, 2013.

    I missed payments of restitution. The bond is $2000 US Dollars…..not exactly something that they extradite a person for when they are outside of the United States (and often times in the United States if you are outside of the state or sometimes the region of the country, e.g., midwest).

    Furthermore, it is not a felony (even though its lists it that on the police wanted list). I plead guilty (2012) to a misdemeanor which was originally a felony. I sentenced to a few days and restitution and self-probation. The criminal case is from 2010 and the case well documented online, by myself, at scribd.com:

    State of Iowa vs Lucas Daniel Smith. FECR 90875. – http://www.scribd.com/collections/3256056/State-of-Iowa-vs-Lucas-Daniel-Smith-FECR-90875

    Regarding the “Most Wanted” thing, I don’t know. I didn’t even know Cedar Rapids had such a thing. I looked at the entire list (its more than just me and other guy) and there is a guy on there for failing to show up to court for public intoxication (i.e., drinking in public)….very serious stuff (being sarcastic).

    btw, I was outside of the United States when the warrant was issued)

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    Majority Will April 21, 2014 at 11:39 pm #

    And there might also be an accomplice or at least a person of interest in his stead, man.

    Aren’t they called confederates? More birther irony.

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    Notorial Dissent April 21, 2014 at 11:43 pm #

    i would suspect that a US Embassy would be at least number two on the list of places LDS wouldn’t want to be, considering the outstanding warrants against him, and then you get the flight to avoid arrest charges that will be added on top of it all, and those will be federal, and came in to play when he crossed state lines, I think, not a happy prospect for our serial liar and forger. Just coincidentally happening to be in one of the few countries that doesn’t extradite can’t hurt.

    That’s all right Lucas, just spin spin spin, it’ll all come home to roost sometime soon!

  15. avatar
    Majority Will April 21, 2014 at 11:46 pm #

    Since the putative fugitive has zero credibility, the truth will have to come from some other more reliable source.

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    CarlOrcas April 21, 2014 at 11:49 pm #

    Lucas Daniel Smith: Furthermore, it is not a felony (even though its lists it that on the police wanted list). I plead guilty (2012) to a misdemeanor which was originally a felony.

    When you fail to fulfill the terms of your plea agreement it is normal for the original charges to be reinstated. Whether you will get a second chance at a misdemeanor plea is an open question.

    Lucas Daniel Smith: Regarding the “Most Wanted” thing, I don’t know. I didn’t even know Cedar Rapids had such a thing. I looked at the entire list (its more than just me and other guy) and there is a guy on there for failing to show up to court for public intoxication (i.e., drinking in public)….very serious stuff (being sarcastic).

    The guy wanted for public intoxication probably isn’t facing prison time. You are.

    Lucas Daniel Smith: btw, I was outside of the United States when the warrant was issued)

    I doubt it. One of the databases they check when they scan your passport at the border is NCIC and that’s where your felony warrant is sitting right now.

  17. avatar
    Arthur April 22, 2014 at 12:15 am #

    It’s unfortunate that back in 2010, when Orly Taitz was the face of birtherism, LDS ignored suggestions to write a tell-all book about his involvement with the birther movement. He could have made a tidy little sum from such a venture. Now, Orly’s a has-been and there’s nothing to be made out of Lucas’ short-lived association with her.

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    Suranis April 22, 2014 at 12:26 am #

    …which neatly explains why LDS tried to con Loren Collins into an agreement where he would not contact the US Government. How typical of a hungry arrogant rotten soul.

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    Suranis April 22, 2014 at 12:27 am #

    Sadly, my toilet is unavailable for comment.

    Majority Will:
    Since the putative fugitive has zero credibility, the truth will have to come from some other more reliable source.

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    Suranis April 22, 2014 at 12:34 am #

    Yeah, he probably would have. Unfortunately, LDS is not actually that smart nor a terribly good liar, but he’s so arrogant that he cant walk down the street without trying to prove he is cleverer than everyone else and he desperately needs others attention. So simply telling the truth would be out, he would have to make up sensational lies. And he does not have it in him to lie his way through an entire book, that’s WAY too many lies to defend and make up “proof” for. LDS is no Jerome Corsi, he’s way too lazy and stupid to crossreference his lies and keep them in his head for an entire book.

    Ironically, his own need for attention and to prove how clever he is cost him a genuine opportunity to make some real money, not nickle and diming off marks like Steadman. And its way too late now, the shine has LONG worn off Orly Taitz even on Fogbow. No-one would give a damn.

    Arthur:
    It’s unfortunate that back in 2010, when Orly Taitz was the face of birtherism, LDS ignored suggestions to write a tell-all book about his involvement with the birther movement. He could have made a tidy little sum from such a venture. Now, Orly’s a has-been and there’s nothing to be made out of Lucas’ short-lived association with her.

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    CarlOrcas April 22, 2014 at 1:24 am #

    Suranis: How typical of a hungry arrogant rotten soul.

    He’s a sociopath.

    Usually they’re a little smarter than this guy. He had a great deal to avoid the felony charge and jail time: Just pay $100 a month until the restitution was taken care of. The judge seem sympathetic to him and even waived some of the fines, if I read the plea deal correctly.

    I doubt the judge will feel quite as kindly the second time around.

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 22, 2014 at 1:33 am #

    There seems to be a step missing here.

    CarlOrcas: Lucas Daniel Smith: btw, I was outside of the United States when the warrant was issued)

    I doubt it. One of the databases they check when they scan your passport at the border is NCIC and that’s where your felony warrant is sitting right now.

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    CarlOrcas April 22, 2014 at 1:52 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    There seems to be a step missing here.

    I assumed when he said “was” that meant he was back….that he had returned after the warrant was issued.

    Is that what you meant?

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    Lupin April 22, 2014 at 2:15 am #

    Why am I not surprised?

    Methinks LDS is going to be “out of the country” for quite a while now.

    I think Uruguay is a very decent country to live in–if you speak Spanish.

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    Slartibartfast April 22, 2014 at 2:55 am #

    He, Lucas has been representing himself as being in the Dominican Republic with Kenya attempting to extradite him. I think it is reasonable to assume he isn’t currently in the US.

    CarlOrcas: I assumed when he said “was” that meant he was back….that he had returned after the warrant was issued.

    Is that what you meant?

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    Notorial Dissent April 22, 2014 at 4:54 am #

    I really seriously doubt if anyone, at least official side, US side really wants LDS badly enough to go after him if it costs money, aside from being an odious little boil on the backside of humanity, in the scheme of things he isn’t worth a gnat’s fart. Now if he were stupid enough, and I’m pretty sure he actually is that stupid when push comes to shove, to walk in to US jurisdiction like an embassy or the like, they could arrest him right then and there and ship him back in chains to whatever jail sentence awaits him, but I can’t see anyone here spending a nickle to go after him, and I can’t see it happening otherwise.

    I think the only true statements we’ve gotten out of him so far are that he really is in DR, since it is about the only place safe for him right now, and that he probably has gotten himself in to some kind of trouble, but that is as far as it goes in my opinion.

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    Lupin April 22, 2014 at 6:03 am #

    As a public service to LDS, according to a financial shark I know, the best countries to flee to in order to escape US justice are:

    1) Croatia (sweet spot with fine living but you might be forced to move again if they align their extradition policies with the rest of the EU)

    2) Dubai (it’s like moving to Vegas)

    3) Kazakhstan (it’s like moving to the Klingon planet; grease the right palms & you’re set for life)

    4) Bhutan (if you’re really into hermiting)

    5) Western Sahara (if you’re really ambitious and would like to become a warlord)

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    Lupin April 22, 2014 at 6:05 am #

    PS: When I mentioned moving to the Dominican Republic, my sharky friend laughed.

    But then again, if LDS was smart, he wouldn’t be where is today.

  29. avatar
    realist April 22, 2014 at 6:53 am #

    Lucas Daniel Smith: btw, I was outside of the United States when the warrant was issued)

    And your point?

    Do you somehow think your presence outside the U.S. somehow voids that subpoena? That it just goes away… poof… because you were outside the U.S. when it was issued? LOL

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    Northland10 April 22, 2014 at 7:56 am #

    Arthur: Lu-Etta Parasol, wanted for trying to pass herself off as a 1st soprano at Our Lady of Sorrows choir auditions.

    That also results in excommunication.

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    Northland10 April 22, 2014 at 8:12 am #

    Lupin:
    PS: When I mentioned moving to the Dominican Republic, my sharky friend laughed.

    But then again, if LDS was smart, he wouldn’t be where is today.

    Given his history, he will eventually be deported by the Dominican Republic, or in one of their prisons for doing the same thing he has done in Iowa. Put simply, Lucas does not posses the core competencies for his chosen career.

  32. avatar
    Punchmaster via mobile April 22, 2014 at 8:26 am #

    Birtherism’s heroes are such a pathetic lot.

  33. avatar
    mimi April 22, 2014 at 8:30 am #

    weird how most of us have never had any warrants out for our arrest. Seems to be just another day for Lucas though.

  34. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 22, 2014 at 8:51 am #

    He doesn’t appear to be back right now.

    CarlOrcas: I assumed when he said “was” that meant he was back….that he had returned after the warrant was issued.

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    Keith (not logged on) April 22, 2014 at 9:04 am #

    Rickey: Which begs the question – is it actually the U.S. government which is trying to have him extradited?

    So you are suggesting that maybe Lucas doesn’t know the difference between the USA and Kenya? That could explain the problem he has with Obama’s birthplace.

  36. avatar
    Thomas Brown April 22, 2014 at 9:20 am #

    Man! I’ve never seen a picture that said “The Face Of A Loser” more than that one of LDS. I see a soul empty of usefulness to anyone.

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    Judge Mental April 22, 2014 at 9:20 am #

    Lupin:
    As a public service to LDS, according to a financial shark I know, the best countries to flee to in order to escape US justice are: ……..

    2) Dubai (it’s like moving to Vegas)……

    As far as some of the gaudy architecture and the ready availability of hookers goes Dubai could be said to resemble Vegas a little….but an extradition fugitive in Dubai would find it more than a little difficult to locate any gambling facility at all, let alone a casino.

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    CarlOrcas April 22, 2014 at 9:25 am #

    Slartibartfast:
    He, Lucas has been representing himself as being in the Dominican Republic with Kenya attempting to extradite him.I think it is reasonable to assume he isn’t currently in the US.

    I’m not sure I’d use the word “reasonable” in a discussion of this man. (Insert snark emoticon here.)

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    CarlOrcas April 22, 2014 at 9:27 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    He doesn’t appear to be back right now.

    Well, since we do have an extradition treaty with the Dominican Republic he may be back sooner than he had planned.

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    CarlOrcas April 22, 2014 at 9:28 am #

    Thomas Brown:
    Man!I’ve never seen a picture that said “The Face Of A Loser” more than that one of LDS.I see a soul empty of usefulness to anyone.

    Spooky. He has no soul.

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 22, 2014 at 9:55 am #

    It would also explain the problem with date formatting on his fake Kenyan birth certificate.

    Keith (not logged on): So you are suggesting that maybe Lucas doesn’t know the difference between the USA and Kenya? That could explain the problem he has with Obama’s birthplace.

  42. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 22, 2014 at 9:57 am #

    Mug shot photos aren’t usually very flattering.

    Thomas Brown: Man! I’ve never seen a picture that said “The Face Of A Loser” more than that one of LDS. I see a soul empty of usefulness to anyone.

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    CarlOrcas April 22, 2014 at 10:14 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Mug shot photos aren’t usually very flattering.

    Yes, indeed. But they are often painfully revealing.

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    bgansel9 April 22, 2014 at 10:16 am #

    Does this change whether Loren will be willing to represent him?

    Did Smith think that by conjuring up this Kenyan extradition that it would put people off the scent of the Iowa situation? It seems to have only created more curiosity and now the Iowa info has been found. Oops!

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    bgansel9 April 22, 2014 at 10:24 am #

    Lucas Daniel Smith: btw, I was outside of the United States when the warrant was issued

    Were you on probation when you left the country?

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    Lupin April 22, 2014 at 10:35 am #

    Judge Mental: As far as some of the gaudy architecture and the ready availability of hookers goes Dubai could be said to resemble Vegas a little…

    I’m fairly certain that’s what my friend had in mind.

    The absence of casinos may be a blessing for LDS.

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    bovril April 22, 2014 at 10:51 am #

    Lupin: I’m fairly certain that’s what my friend had in mind.

    The absence of casinos may be a blessing for LDS.

    Living in Dubai is waaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy beyond the means of a penny-ante grafter like LDS,

    Well he could try and pass himself off as a worker from India/Pakistan/Bangladesh but somehow I don’t see him getting his fingernails chipped with manual labour.

    No firm will sponsor him as he has no discernable work skills (grifting isn’t a recognised career path) and if he tried to overstay his tourist visa he would not be happy with the actions taken against him by the local police

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    Lupin April 22, 2014 at 11:01 am #

    bovril: Living in Dubai is waaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy beyond the means of a penny-ante grafter like LDS,

    Well he could try and pass himself off as a worker from India/Pakistan/Bangladesh but somehow I don’t see him getting his fingernails chipped with manual labour.

    West Sahara it is, then! :-)

    No firm will sponsor him as he has no discernable work skills (grifting isn’t a recognised career path) and if he tried to overstay his tourist visa he would not be happy with the actions taken against him by the local police.

    A fate I’m sure we could all look forward to on his behalf.

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    Lupin April 22, 2014 at 11:29 am #

    An interesting bit I found in an article about the sex abuse lawsuit against film director Bryan Singer:

    “Egan claims he was lured into a sex ring run by a former digital entertainment company executive, Marc Collins-Rector, with promises of auditions for acting, modeling and commercial jobs. He was put on the company’s payroll as an actor and forced to have sex with adult men at parties within Hollywood’s entertainment industry, the lawsuit said.

    “Collins-Rector pleaded guilty in 2004 to transporting five minors across state lines to have sex.

    “Phone numbers listed for Collins-Rector have been disconnected and attempts to reach him for comment last week were unsuccessful. Records maintained in Florida, where Collins-Rector is required to register as a sex offender, show that in 2008 his last known address was in the Dominican Republic.

    Where did I read that before?

  50. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 22, 2014 at 12:16 pm #

    This is not an article that I really wanted to publish and I wouldn’t have except that it is a current warrant, and so relevant to Smith’s present status and his claims.

  51. avatar
    Bonsall Obot April 22, 2014 at 12:18 pm #

    The DR, of course, is from where Rush Limbaugh was returning when he was found to be in possession of boner pills without a prescription. Limbaugh, like Lucas Daniel Smith, is a convicted criminal who throws around vile, baseless accusations when confronted with his own misdeeds. Whether their mutual connection to this notorious sex-tourism destination is coincidental or indicative of another connection is not yet known.

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    Rickey April 22, 2014 at 12:22 pm #

    Wikipedia article on human trafficking in the Dominican Republic.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_the_Dominican_Republic

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    Arthur April 22, 2014 at 12:50 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: This is not an article that I really wanted to publish

    I don’t blame you. I’m as guilty as anyone for gleefully mocking Lucas’ misfortune, but the whole thing fills me with remorse. Dare I say it: I feel sorry for him.

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    Bonsall Obot April 22, 2014 at 1:06 pm #

    Lucas Daniel Smith doesn’t have any problems not caused by his own behavior. When confronted with consequences for his behavior, his reaction is invariably to lie, cheat and steal.

    No pity or sympathy here. This is an incorrigible criminal who has been given many an opportunity to change his ways; if anything, he has benefited from an overabundance of leniency, and it’s past time someone drop the hammer on him.

  55. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 22, 2014 at 1:10 pm #

    I don’t feel sorry for Smith, but I don’t want to stick it to him either.

    Arthur: Dare I say it: I feel sorry for him.

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    CarlOrcas April 22, 2014 at 1:18 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I don’t feel sorry for Smith, but I don’t want to stick it to him either.

    Anyone who has ever dealt with a sociopath, let alone been victimized by one, understands how difficult it is to feel anything about them…..especially sorry.

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    Arthur April 22, 2014 at 2:16 pm #

    CarlOrcas: Anyone who has ever dealt with a sociopath, let alone been victimized by one, understands how difficult it is to feel anything about them…..especially sorry.

    Yes, that’s a good point.

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    Bob April 22, 2014 at 2:17 pm #

    Speaking from personal experience, interacting with these grifter- and/or congenital liar-types is a losing proposition. They live to be manipulative. They lie when it would be easier to tell the truth. They don’t have boundaries.

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    Arthur April 22, 2014 at 2:26 pm #

    Bonsall Obot: No pity or sympathy here. This is an incorrigible criminal who has been given many an opportunity to change his ways; if anything, he has benefited from an overabundance of leniency, and it’s past time someone drop the hammer on him.

    I know. It’s just, I’m always thinking, “There but for the grace of the Flying Spaghetti Monster go I.”

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    bgansel9 April 22, 2014 at 2:40 pm #

    I think it’s interesting that LDS was placed on Self Supervised Probation (according to him) and he decided he could leave the country. Did he contact the Iowa Department of Corrections and ask if he was allowed to travel abroad? Did he just decide that since he was placed as his own probation supervisor that he would just give himself permission? Did he know when he left the country that he would not be back for at least several months, if ever?

    It sounds as if he absconded and just doesn’t want to admit it.

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    bgansel9 April 22, 2014 at 2:41 pm #

    Arthur: I know. It’s just, I’m always thinking, “There but for the grace of the Flying Spaghetti Monster go I.”

    No, Arthur, you’re better than that. I have never met you, but I get a feeling reading your posts that you would never allow anything like this to happen to you.

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    Bonsall Obot April 22, 2014 at 3:05 pm #

    Arthur:

    I know. It’s just, I’m always thinking, “There but for the grace of the Flying Spaghetti Monster go I.”

    I know the feeling, and it’s one worth cultivating, but people like Smith take advantage of that sort of empathy, to the detriment of his specific victims and of society and humanity at large.

    This isn’t someone who was dealt a bad hand in life; this is an intelligent, white, male and ostensibly heterosexual American, which qualities give him a distinct advantage in virtually every aspect of life. He has made a conscious decision to engage in a life of crime, has been given numerous opportunities to mend his ways, and continues to victimize people instead of making restitution. He is an admitted sexual predator, has stolen and continues to steal thousands of dollars through his forgeries and confidence schemes, and spends an alarming share of his time using those forgeries and schemes to promote genuine sedition and the downfall of the US government. More than mere grace separates you and me from Lucas Daniel Smith; all of his problems are of his own making.

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    Thomas Brown April 22, 2014 at 3:16 pm #

    Arthur: I know. It’s just, I’m always thinking, “There but for the grace of the Flying Spaghetti Monster go I.”

    Ra Men.

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    Northland10 April 22, 2014 at 8:06 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: This is not an article that I really wanted to publish and I wouldn’t have except that it is a current warrant,

    It was only after his latest attention grabbing attempt (and my day of rest after Holy Week/Easter) that I had any interest to see if there was anything outstanding. I knew of the case earlier but never bothered to check the status as it was, uninteresting.

    I just cannot quite fathom why somebody finds their personal legal problems to be a badge of honor.

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 23, 2014 at 1:10 pm #

    Iowa Interference With Official Acts statute 719.1

    Link added to article.

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    CarlOrcas April 23, 2014 at 1:58 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Iowa Interference With Official Acts statute 719.1

    Link added to article.

    Sounds like someone is headed back to jail for a while.

    Don’t drop the soap, Lucas.

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    Jim April 23, 2014 at 2:14 pm #

    Looks like greatkim over at TFB was able to get the docket…

    http://www.thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2289&p=605283#p605250

    Looks like he’s wanted in the US for importing cocaine and heroine, as far as I can tell from my 6th grade spanish. Let’s see where he goes from here.

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    Arthur April 23, 2014 at 2:44 pm #

    Jim: Looks like he’s wanted in the US for importing cocaine and heroine, as far as I can tell from my 6th grade spanish.

    So now he’s a drug dealer? Good God . . .

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    CarlOrcas April 23, 2014 at 2:59 pm #

    Jim: Looks like he’s wanted in the US for importing cocaine and heroine, as far as I can tell from my 6th grade spanish. Let’s see where he goes from here.

    If that is true one would expect there to be charges against him from the U.S.

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    The European April 23, 2014 at 3:37 pm #

    Arthur: I know. It’s just, I’m always thinking, “There but for the grace of the Flying Spaghetti Monster go I.”

    bgansel9: No, Arthur, you’re better than that. I have never met you, but I get a feeling reading your posts that you would never allow anything like this to happen to you.

    /offtopic

    bgansel,

    I think that you have to rethink Arthur thoughts. I feel that some people here share them.

    What makes us the way we are ? Is there a free will or are we just a product of many factors ? What “allows” Arthur to not act like Lucas Smith ?

    For some of us – especially the Lutherans – it is God´s grace. For those who think that there are no Gods it is just good luck and not being “better”.

    And excuse me, Arthur, if I got you completely wrong.

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    Arthur April 23, 2014 at 4:02 pm #

    The European: What makes us the way we are ? Is there a free will or are we just a product of many factors ? What “allows” Arthur to not act like Lucas Smith ?

    For some of us – especially the Lutherans – it is God´s grace. For those who think that there are no Gods it is just good luck and not being “better”.

    And excuse me, Arthur, if I got you completely wrong.

    No, I think you got to the heart of it. I used to think that free will was the most powerful force in human intention and action, and that you made your mind up to do something, or not to do something, and went about your business. Now, however, I think there are a variety of factors competing with free will that make living a good life more difficult than I supposed.

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 23, 2014 at 5:18 pm #

    While I and most folks think that we are free moral agents, that’s not an easy idea to defend. A human being is a product of genes and environment, and if one wants, add the agency of the divine or a “soul.”. In any case, none of these enabling factors can be chosen. They are given us. The will to change our environment, to learn a trade, to work hard–these are all something that requires the desire and ability to do those things, and that ability comes again from heredity and environment or grace if you add that third dimension.

    I know kids born with mental disabilities, kids with fetal alcohol syndrome, and kids who were abused. We can do what we can to help these people succeed, but just telling them that they should be better, work harder, stay out of trouble, calm down and succeed only works on some folks who are disposed to respond to that approach.

    Short of eugenics, all we as a society can do is provide incentives, training, roll models, medical treatment and opportunity. What I can’t say is that I deserve to be well off. I’ve had lots of advantages including inherited intelligence, honest parents with a good work ethic, inspiring teachers, good health, employment and the absence of bad influences.

    The European: What makes us the way we are ? Is there a free will or are we just a product of many factors ? What “allows” Arthur to not act like Lucas Smith ?

    For some of us – especially the Lutherans – it is God´s grace. For those who think that there are no Gods it is just good luck and not being “better”.

    And excuse me, Arthur, if I got you completely wrong.

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 23, 2014 at 5:34 pm #

    Just so folks don’t go off on a tangent not having read the document first: It was issued by the Suprema Corte de Justicia of the Republica Fogbotiana.

    Jim: Looks like he’s wanted in the US for importing cocaine and heroine, as far as I can tell from my 6th grade spanish. Let’s see where he goes from here.

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    CarlOrcas April 23, 2014 at 5:56 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Just so folks don’t go off on a tangent not having read the document first: It was issued by the Suprema Corte de Justicia of the Republica Fogbotiana.

    Damn! Another good story ruined by over checking.

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    Slartibartfast April 23, 2014 at 5:58 pm #

    Even some of us atheists believe in the concept of grace (although we don’t ascribe a role in it for God). Conscious free will is an illusion. We only become consciously aware of a decision after it has been made subconsciously. On a basic level, our actions are nothing but the result of interactions between our DNA and its environment—neither of which we had any power to choose. It is only luck that prevented you or I from being born into the soul and circumstances of he, Lucas. Of course, while Lucas may not have consciously chose his actions they do shed light on his character—and what they reveal is not very flattering…

    The European: /offtopic

    bgansel,

    I think that you have to rethinkArthur thoughts.I feel that some people here share them.

    What makes us the way we are ? Is there a free will or are we just a product of many factors ? What “allows” Arthur to not act like Lucas Smith ?

    For some of us – especially the Lutherans – it is God´s grace. For those who think that there are no Gods it is just good luck and not being “better”.

    And excuse me, Arthur, if I got you completely wrong.

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    faceman April 23, 2014 at 6:10 pm #

    Isn’t the fact that he is in the Dominican Republic itself a probation violation? You aren’t supposed to leave the jurisdiction while under probation?

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    Faceman April 24, 2014 at 6:25 am #

    And, of course, like a good citizen, now that he is aware of the warrant he will go turn himself in and settle the issue. Or does he now want to fight extradition to the US? If the US is even trying to extradite him, that is.

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 24, 2014 at 7:38 am #

    The State Department response said Smith wasn’t facing extradition, and that wasn’t qualified to just Kenya. I couldn’t imagine extradition over a charge so small.

    Faceman: And, of course, like a good citizen, now that he is aware of the warrant he will go turn himself in and settle the issue. Or does he now want to fight extradition to the US? If the US is even trying to extradite him, that is.

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    bgansel9 April 24, 2014 at 10:49 am #

    The European: What makes us the way we are ? Is there a free will or are we just a product of many factors ? What “allows” Arthur to not act like Lucas Smith ?

    I think the better question is what makes Lucas do what he does? He is the outlier.

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 25, 2014 at 10:17 pm #

    I asked my buddy who is a retired US Customs instructor, and he confirms this. He thinks Smith would be detained if he entered the US with an outstanding warrant.

    CarlOrcas: I doubt it. One of the databases they check when they scan your passport at the border is NCIC and that’s where your felony warrant is sitting right now.

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    bgansel9 April 26, 2014 at 12:44 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: I asked my buddy who is a retired US Customs instructor, and he confirms this. He thinks Smith would be detained if he entered the US with an outstanding warrant.

    I guess he won’t be making any trips home for Thanksgiving or Christmas, huh (assuming he doesn’t get himself kicked out of the Dominican Republic, I mean)?

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