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  1. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 21, 2014 at 12:29 pm #

    I’m making a change in the blog’s convention for updated articles. I have stopped adding “(Updated)” to the title of articles that have been updated. Now, I will make an announcement of the update in comments, and include the updated material in the comment where practical. I also finished removing update notes from prior article titles.

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    Rickey April 21, 2014 at 12:53 pm #

    Strikes One and Two for Doug Vogt today.

    No. 13-1158
    Title:
    Douglas Vogt, Petitioner
    v.
    United States District Court for the Western District of Washington
    Docketed: March 24, 2014
    Lower Ct: United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit
    Case Nos.: (13-74137)
    Decision Date: January 14, 2014

    ~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Mar 24 2014 Petition for a writ of certiorari filed. (Response due April 23, 2014)
    Mar 24 2014 Motion to expedite consideration of the petition for a writ of certiorari and for leave to file an affidavit under seal filed by petitioner.
    Mar 26 2014 Motion DISTRIBUTED for Conference of April 18, 2014.
    Apr 7 2014 Request for recusal received from petitioner.
    Apr 21 2014 Motion to expedite consideration of the petition for a writ of certiorari and for leave to file an affidavit under seal DENIED.

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    Thinker April 21, 2014 at 1:06 pm #

    I wonder if this means that he can file the affidavit but not under seal, or if it means he can’t file the affidavit at all.

    Rickey: [...] leave to file an affidavit under seal DENIED.

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    gorefan April 22, 2014 at 3:59 pm #

    4/22/2014 – Mike Volin on a Omaha radio in about 10 minutes – 3:05

    http://www.iheart.com/live/News-Radio-1110-KFAB-1325/?autoplay=true

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 22, 2014 at 5:38 pm #

    I am changing formatting on the blog: the names of web sites and publications will no longer be italicized.

    I’ve also started experimenting with the use of italics to denote written quotations. The blockquotes have always been italicized by default. One convention is to use quotation marks for spoken quotations, italics for written ones.

    I suppose I should have adopted a style guide at the start, sigh.

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    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater April 22, 2014 at 6:40 pm #

    gorefan: 4/22/2014 – Mike Volin on a Omaha radio in about 10 minutes – 3:05 http://www.iheart.com/live/News-Radio-1110-KFAB-1325/?autoplay=true

    I had a listen very juicy parts here. Mike Volin talks about next steps wherein he mentions that Arpaio will be releasing Universe Shattering information in March. I guess he just forgot what day it was or is using it on repeat. The host was making fun of Volin and his birther compadres and Volin didn’t even get it.

    The part that did it for me: Volin says he doesn’t believe Ann Dunham is the mother of the child that either she adopted a baby overseas or someone left a colored baby on her doorstep. The reason is that “blacks and whites in 1961 didn’t mix”. I think we got his motivation.

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    gorefan April 22, 2014 at 6:51 pm #

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: Mike Volin talks about next steps

    I listen to it. I got a sense of desperation from Volin. Almost like he knows there isn’t going to be any shattering of anything much less universes. The line where he said that he has congressmen that are all lined up but are waiting for the new information before they act, sounds way too much like a page from the Gallups/Zullo playbook. He might as well have said that he is in contact with VIPs who can move this forward.

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    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater April 22, 2014 at 7:06 pm #

    gorefan: I listen to it. I got a sense of desperation from Volin. Almost like he knows there isn’t going to be any shattering of anything much less universes. The line where he said that he has congressmen that are all lined up but are waiting for the new information before they act, sounds way too much like a page from the Gallups/Zullo playbook. He might as well have said that he is in contact with VIPs who can move this forward.

    Yep he said he talks to them daily and they’re all lined up. It’s the same crap Gallups is pushing.

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    Northland10 April 22, 2014 at 8:00 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: I am changing…

    A sure sign you are scrubbing all bad stuff and running in fear of the Zubots.

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    Benji Franklin April 22, 2014 at 9:53 pm #

    gorefan: I listen to it. I got a sense of desperation from Volin. Almost like he knows there isn’t going to be any shattering of anything much less universes. The line where he said that he has congressmen that are all lined up but are waiting for the new information before they act, sounds way too much like a page from the Gallups/Zullo playbook. He might as well have said that he is in contact with VIPs who can move this forward.

    Karl Gall Oops!: “We’re back, Listeners, and Mike Zoo Low will BE here shortly to UPDATE us all on EXACTLY WHEN the UNIVERSE-SHATTERING CCP investigation announcement won’t be made, and he really wants to show us the tremendous trophy he gave himself for finally investigating his way out of a phone booth, but first Mike Violin is here to connect us with V.I.P.’s who, once the big reveal occurs, can trigger a FULL BLOWN CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION of Obama’s Birth Certificate, personal identification, and dirty underwear. Welcome, Mike Violin!”

    Mike Violin (surrounded by snoring sounds): “Thanks, Karl! Frankly, our Sheriff’s Kit has been a complete bust, moving no member of Congress to pursue any of its accusations. So I’m doubling down today and delivering the same information in the same format to all of the traitors who ignored it the first time except I changed the title page to, Congressional Restroom Attendant’s Kit!”

    Karl Gall Oops!:”Wow! Wow! And these – if I remember right – WELL-GROOMED attendants – ARE the movers and shakers in Congress these days, right Mike Violin? This is exciting!”

    Mike Violin: “Yes! But we aren’t putting all of our eggs in one biscuit. To widen our appeal, using only a new font we’re reissuing 150,000 of the Sheriff’s Kits, but re-titling them the ‘Double-left-handed –unseparated-Siamese Twin Justice-of-the-peace Kit!”

    Karl Gall Oops!:”Help us out here, Mike Violin. Pray tell, what special influence do Double-left-handed –unseparated-Siamese Twin Justices-of-the-peace, have over members of Congress, that would likely get the Obama investigation ball rolling?

    Mike Violin: “THAT’s an unknown right now, Karl. But, ask me after this summer’s July 4th Million Double-left-handed –unseparated-Siamese Twin Justices-of-the-peace March on Washington! ”

    Mike Zoo Low (stumbling into the studio and impaling his mouth immediately on a mango flavored Pee Pee Summons Studio microphone):”July 4th? Ouch! Okay, that conflicts with our big CCP announcement, so we’ll just put that HUGE evidence reveal off for another three years.

    Karl Gall Oops!:”WOW! Listeners, and particularly, naysayers, you just heard the latest update on the CCP Universe-shattering announcement RIGHT HERE! Not tomorrow or the next day or next week or next month or next year or ten years from now or in another century! No! Right now! You JUST heard SECONDS AGO about the additional, ALL NEW 3 year postponement of the results of the CCP ingestivation! AND you heard it here first AS PROMISED! How’s that for honesty? And to those listeners who haven’t donated money to the cause, honesty like that doesn’t come cheap, am I right about that Mike Zoo Low?

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 22, 2014 at 10:02 pm #

    I guess italics are socialist.

    Northland10: A sure sign you are scrubbing all bad stuff and running in fear of the Zubots.

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 23, 2014 at 12:20 am #

    Birther logic is an astounding thing to behold.
    This is the birther train of thought: Obama “silences” anyone who is a threat to him. Birthers think themselves a threat to Obama, as there is a “We got him this time!” on a daily basis.

    Now, if Obama was indeed “out to get” anyone who was a “threat” to him, and “doesn’t care who knows it” why aren’t the birthers asking themselves why they aren’t dropping like flies?

    I mean, if that were the case, shouldn’t birther all-stars like Falcon be having “accidents” right and left? ;)

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    The Magic M April 23, 2014 at 4:20 am #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Now, if Obama was indeed “out to get” anyone who was a “threat” to him, and “doesn’t care who knows it” why aren’t the birthers asking themselves why they aren’t dropping like flies?

    That’s a common problem for conspiracy believers. Usually they “explain” it by claiming they – in contrast to other “enemies of the regime” – are so super-important that, should the conspiracy dare to dispose of them, the people would immediately be enlightened and rise up to overthrow the conspirators.

    It’s a crude mix of conspiracy belief and a God complex (after all, these people believe to be the enlightened few), although birthers are a little different as they like to claim “millions”, if not the majority of the country, agree with them whereas typical conspiracy believers style themselves as the elite few who are not “sheeple”.

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 23, 2014 at 7:53 am #

    Ah, I feel an article coming on.

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: why aren’t the birthers asking themselves why they aren’t dropping like flies?

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 23, 2014 at 11:10 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Ah, I feel an article coming on.

    I hear that’s been going around!

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    JPotter April 23, 2014 at 11:15 am #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: I mean, if that were the case, shouldn’t birther all-stars like Falcon be having “accidents” right and left?

    This lack has been an ongoing problem for birfers for years. If they were truly committed, they would be taking care of this themselves.

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    Suranis April 23, 2014 at 11:25 am #

    Italics… Italians… My goodness, it all fits!!!

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I guess italics are socialist.

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    Thinker April 23, 2014 at 11:51 am #

    It looks like Butterdezillion finally got zotted for good. Here’s the thread with her final posts http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3147140/posts?q=1&;page=1#comment.

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    Bovril April 23, 2014 at 12:14 pm #

    Foolish, foolish BitterDelusional, she performed the one action that is truly verboten at Freak Rethuglic, her last post calls out RimJobs “Freepathon” grift.

    No more heinous action that to get between Rimmer and his suckers.

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    Rickey April 23, 2014 at 12:38 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG:
    Birther logic is an astounding thing to behold.
    This is the birther train of thought: Obama “silences” anyone who is a threat to him. Birthers think themselves a threat to Obama, as there is a “We got him this time!” on a daily basis.

    Now, if Obama was indeed “out to get” anyone who was a “threat” to him, and “doesn’t care who knows it” why aren’t the birthers asking themselves why they aren’t dropping like flies?

    I mean, if that were the case, shouldn’t birther all-stars like Falcon be having “accidents” right and left?

    My favorite is the birther meme that Obama is blackmailing most or all of the Federal bench. He was able to “force” John Roberts to vote in favor of Obamacare, yet for some reason Roberts and the other SCOTUS conservatives vote against Obama on campaign finance reform, affirmative action, etc.

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 23, 2014 at 1:57 pm #

    The Taitz v. Mississippi docket spreadsheet has been brought up to date. Nothing new this month.

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 23, 2014 at 4:52 pm #

    Now they(birthers) are making a big fuss over the fact that Obama isn’t going to his aunt’s funeral. Um, so…what? I have an uncle, in his 70s, and he is a world class asshole, and needless to say, I won’t be trekking to Colorado when he kicks the bucket.

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    Jim April 23, 2014 at 5:28 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    The Taitz v. Mississippi docket spreadsheet has been brought up to date. Nothing new this month.

    According to TFB, Orly just filed some more garbage.

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 23, 2014 at 8:29 pm #

    The God’s Birther series by Frank Arduini, appearing at the RC Radio blog has been compiled into a single document at Scribd.

    If you ever need to find it, look under the Bookmarks menu up top and then select Fact Checking and Debunking. It’s there.

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    The Magic M April 24, 2014 at 7:51 am #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Now they(birthers) are making a big fuss over the fact that Obama isn’t going to his aunt’s funeral.

    And if he had gone there, it would’ve been “proof” his aunt somehow helped him get a fake SSN in 1977 or whatnot.

    Same Catch-22 as with conservatives about Syria and now Russia (first he’s “too weak” thereby allowing Putin to grab Crimea, now he’s “trying to provoke a war” by standing up against Putin grabbing more of Ukraine, next week he’ll be “too weak” again by asking for approval from Congress).

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 24, 2014 at 7:57 am #

    Court: Kings Civil Supreme
    Index Number: 021948/2012
    Case Name: STRUNK, CHRISTOPHER-EARL vs. BOARD OF ELECTIONS
    Case Type: Special Proceedings
    Track: Standard
    Upstate RJI Number:
    Disposition Date:
    Date NOI Due:
    NOI Filed: 12/07/2012
    Calendar Number: 2012-011142T
    RJI Filed: 11/16/2012
    Jury Status: Non-Jury
    Justice Name: NON-JURY TRIAL READINESS PART

    Future Appearances:
    Appearance Date: 06/18/2014
    Appearance Time:
    On For: Supreme Trial
    Appearance Outcome:
    Justice: NON-JURY TRIAL READINESS PART
    Part: NON-JURY TRIAL READINESS PART
    Comments: 4X

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    Bonsall Obot April 24, 2014 at 8:52 am #

    The Magic M:

    Same Catch-22

    When all you have is a Birfing hammer, everything looks like a de facto evil nail.

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 24, 2014 at 9:54 am #

    So I am nearing the end of McGinniss’ Palin book, The Rogue. He doesn’t say he believes that Trig is not Palin’s child, and he pretty much concludes the the baby was not Bristol’s. He still had questions. Of course, he didn’t know about the sources that Salon.com uncovered a year after his book was written. He probably could have dug deeper into the question. He did conclude, and I agree, that Palin acted recklessly in making a 10-hour trip at the end of a high-risk pregnancy and giving birth prematurely at a hospital without a NICU.

    Comparing the Salon story with The Rogue is a good exercise in seeing the same events from two entirely different points of view, providing a cautionary tale for anyone who approaches controversial narratives.

    Another point about Trig’s birth is noteworthy. While McGinniss’ book contains nothing about the selection process of Palin for Republican vice-presidential candidate, he does say that the birth of Trig was a major consideration in Palin’s selection. According to a very authoritative book on the 2008 election, Game Change, this wasn’t a factor.

    One other controversial issue is who was given “a pass” by the press in the 2008 election. Certainly Palin got one, both in the incredibly rushed and superficial vetting given Palin by the McCain campaign at the very last minute when McCain’s primary choice Joe Lieberman didn’t work out, and by the press not covering her alleged membership in the Alaska Independence Party and her certain membership in a really extreme Pentecostal sect. I’d put the negatives of her pastor right beside Obama’s pastor Jeremiah Wright. Some of the things Palin did as Mayor of Wasilla and Governor of Alaska could well have gotten her impeached if they had been done as Vice President. Hillary Clinton got a pass in 2008, and I think Obama got one to some extent as well.

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    Dave April 24, 2014 at 1:34 pm #

    Though it remains unclear exactly what he’s going to represent them in. The stuff at BR sounds perhaps like a planned lawsuit against everyone, but who knows.

    But just so we know the kind of great American patriot Klaymann wants to help out, here’s an excerpt from the NYT:

    “I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.
    Continue reading the main story

    “And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

    The European: The Bundy fambly is doomed:

    KKKLayman will represent them:

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 24, 2014 at 1:52 pm #

    Dave:
    Though it remains unclear exactly what he’s going to represent them in. The stuff at BR sounds perhaps like a planned lawsuit against everyone, but who knows.

    But just so we know the kind of great American patriot Klaymann wants to help out, here’s an excerpt from the NYT:

    Wow! Throw in some inappropriate minor touching, and he could be Klayman’s new BFF!

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    The European April 24, 2014 at 2:20 pm #

    I guess now that KKKlayman will not represent BundyTheRacist but will set up another doomed “Peoples Grand Jury”. He will adress his “questions” at this jury formed of not randomly selected nuts …

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    Arthur April 24, 2014 at 2:41 pm #

    Dave: But just so we know the kind of great American patriot Klaymann wants to help out, here’s an excerpt from the NYT:

    The notion that African Americans were better off under slavery is an notion that conservatives have been advocating for years:

    “Ten conservatives who have praised slavery
    Republican Rep. Jon Hubbard is the latest to deem it a blessing. His position is not as uncommon as you’d think”

    http://www.salon.com/2012/10/12/ten_conservatives_who_have_praised_slavery/

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 24, 2014 at 4:07 pm #

    “Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them:do you think that they were worse offenders than all the others who lived in Jerusalem?”
    (ESV) Luke 13:4

    The European: A sign from heavens ?

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    The European April 24, 2014 at 4:50 pm #

    /offtopic

    I guess I better had not mentioned this sad story here – the young (dead) man was on a pilgrimage to the cross as I read in austrian papers.

    But it is nearly funny that the late Pope John Paul II himself believed that the Virgin Mary saved miraculously his life in an attempted assassination:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_II_assassination_attempt
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Secrets_of_F%C3%A1tima

    Well, if she protected him, she did a poor job: The Pope, shot several times, barely survived, two bystanders hurt. She could have done better. And she or the Saint John Paul II could easily have spared that poor young man ….

    But of course it´s Pres. Obama´s fault

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    The Magic M (not logged in) April 25, 2014 at 4:20 am #

    The European: But it is nearly funny that the late Pope John Paul II himself believed that the Virgin Mary saved miraculously his life in an attempted assassination

    It was a nice cop-out for the Third Secret of Fatima, because the real one obviously was too “universe shattering” to reveal.

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    The Magic M (not logged in) April 25, 2014 at 4:23 am #

    Arthur: The notion that African Americans were better off under slavery is an notion that conservatives have been advocating for years

    Not uncommon. German right-wingers (those who deny the Holocaust) maintain that the concentration camps meant “good meals, clean bodies and productive work for the Jews”.

    Then again when I say “German right-wingers” in this context, I don’t mean mainstream party politicians but Neo-Nazi scum.

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    The European April 25, 2014 at 5:17 am #

    Back to serious stuff: KKKLayman, the “Fondler”:

    “The Bundy family sent word late Wednesday that nationally known conservative public interest attorney Larry Klayman would be at the ranch the next day to discuss a legal response to the roundup and speak to reporters.

    Then the New York Times story broke, derailing Bundy’s plans to “announce to the world” who deserved to be hauled into court over the failed BLM operation.

    When asked about Klayman at the press conference, Bundy and his son, Ryan, both acted like they didn’t know about the previous night’s announcement. They said they have received numerous offers of help from lawyers, but they aren’t being represented by anyone because Bundy prefers to handle such things himself.

    Bundy said he has no legal action planned.

    Klayman never made an appearance and could not be reached for comment.”

    http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/bundy-blm/cliven-bundy-repeats-racist-comments-press-conference

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    Keith April 25, 2014 at 5:42 am #

    World wide commemorations of the Great War (WWI) will begin in August 2014.

    Today, ANZAC Day (25 April 2014) Australia and New Zealand begins their commemoration of the Australian and New Zealand Army Corps (ANZAC) involvement in that war.

    As this is the Centennial Edition open thread, I thought it appropriate to share this video: Lest We Forget

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 25, 2014 at 1:25 pm #

    The spam filter was acting up and snagged your comment.

    The European: Back to serious stuff: KKKLayman, the “Fondler”:

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    The European April 25, 2014 at 1:56 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    The spam filter was acting up and snagged your comment.

    I wondered already if my offtopic snark about popes and miracles had led to me being baned …

    So here something ontopic:

    A snake is rising its head and proves what everybody here knew already:

    David Farrar is a racist !

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/04/why-nevada-home-of-cliven-bundy-abolished-slavery-twice/361175/#comments

    just read his comments.

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    Rickey April 25, 2014 at 3:59 pm #

    David Farrar: “Slavery was wrong and at times brutal, but it wasn’t inhuman.”

    I wonder how bad it would have to get for Farrar to label slavery as “inhuman.”

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 25, 2014 at 4:40 pm #

    For me it becomes inhuman about at the point of buying and selling human beings.

    Rickey: I wonder how bad it would have to get for Farrar to label slavery as “inhuman.”

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    Jim April 25, 2014 at 4:43 pm #

    Rickey:
    I wonder how bad it would have to get for Farrar to label slavery as “inhuman.”

    He can be my slave…he’ll come around the first time I give him 40 lashes just because he looked at me strange. :D

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    Majority Will April 25, 2014 at 4:53 pm #

    Yes, buying and selling human beings is despicable but let’s add whipping, collaring, chaining, beating, raping, hobbling, castrating and lynching to the list of inhuman acts on slaves.

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    The European April 25, 2014 at 5:04 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    For me it becomes inhuman about at the point of buying and selling human beings.

    One has to admit that slavery was – in history – a progress compared to the killing of each and every enemy – may he / she be combattant or not. The Bible gives a good ? example of these old customs – the killing of every living being in Jericho, animals included.

    Slave trade between Africa and the “New World” and everything that followed has a different source – greed, one of the biggests sins.

    David Farrar is a swine covered with human clothes.

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    The European April 25, 2014 at 5:11 pm #

    Doc, never mind. . I changed my screen name unvoluntarily …..

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    Majority Will April 25, 2014 at 6:20 pm #

    The European:
    So here something ontopic:

    A snake is rising its head andproves what everybody here knew already:

    David Farrar is a racist !

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/04/why-nevada-home-of-cliven-bundy-abolished-slavery-twice/361175/#comments

    just read his comments.

    With comments down the page on Farrar’s birtherism from our old friend, Misha (http://newyorkleftist.blogspot.com/).

    (excerpts) “Farrar is a disingenuous, bigoted malcontent from Georgia.”

    “Farrar is consumed with anger that a black man was elected president. He is a racist in the true meaning of the word – he believes in the biological and intellectual supremacy of Anglo-Saxons.”

    Well done, Misha.

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    The European April 25, 2014 at 6:43 pm #

    Majority Will: With comments down the page on Farrar’s birtherism from our old friend, Misha (http://newyorkleftist.blogspot.com/).

    (excerpts) “Farrar is a disingenuous, bigoted malcontent from Georgia.”

    “Farrar is consumed with anger that a black man was elected president. He is a racist in the true meaning of the word – he believes in the biological and intellectual supremacy of Anglo-Saxons.”

    Well done, Misha.

    And worse for him – he knows that his President is biological and intellectual (and financially and …) superior to him. Makes him even more crazy than he was before …

    Farrar, we know that you read this. LOOSER.

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    The European April 25, 2014 at 6:45 pm #

    Second try:

    ” Dr. Conspiracy:
    For me it becomes inhuman about at the point of buying and selling human beings.


    One has to admit that slavery was – in history – a progress compared to the killing of each and every enemy – may he / she be combattant or not. The Bible gives a good ? example of these old customs – the killing of every living being in Jericho, animals included.

    Slave trade between Africa and the “New World” and everything that followed has a different source – greed, one of the biggests sins.

    David Farrar is a swine covered with human clothes.

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    Dave B. April 25, 2014 at 8:42 pm #

    Yeah, I just busted him over there lying about his sources.

    The European: David Farrar is a swine covered with human clothes.

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 25, 2014 at 10:05 pm #

    Not everyone. The prostitute Rahab was spared.

    The European: The Bible gives a good ? example of these old customs – the killing of every living being in Jericho, animals included.

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    Dave B. April 25, 2014 at 10:11 pm #

    And her family, too!

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Not everyone. The prostitute Rahab was spared.

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    Rickey April 25, 2014 at 10:16 pm #

    Update on Vogt’s SCOTUS petition:

    No. 13-1158
    Title:
    Douglas Vogt, Petitioner
    v.
    United States District Court for the Western District of Washington
    Docketed: March 24, 2014
    Lower Ct: United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit
    Case Nos.: (13-74137)
    Decision Date: January 14, 2014

    ~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Mar 24 2014 Petition for a writ of certiorari filed. (Response due April 23, 2014)
    Mar 24 2014 Motion to expedite consideration of the petition for a writ of certiorari and for leave to file an affidavit under seal filed by petitioner.
    Mar 26 2014 Motion DISTRIBUTED for Conference of April 18, 2014.
    Apr 7 2014 Request for recusal received from petitioner.
    Apr 21 2014 Motion to expedite consideration of the petition for a writ of certiorari and for leave to file an affidavit under seal DENIED.
    Apr 23 2014 Waiver of right of respondent United States District Court for the Western District of Washington to respond filed.

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    The Magic M (not logged in) April 26, 2014 at 3:47 am #

    Rickey: Waiver of right of respondent United States District Court for the Western District of Washington

    I guess when even an involved court waives its rights, the petition is deader than dead. ;)

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 26, 2014 at 7:39 am #

    While not especially relevant to the general argument here, the Jericho story is probably not historical. Based on archaeological dating of the ruins of Jericho, it was destroyed long before the Israelites arrived on the scene and found the ruined wall.

    The Bible shows evidence of the same nasty anti-immigrant bigotry that we see today, but it also contains arguments against that view, such as the book of Ruth where an immigrant became the ancestor of King David.

    Dave B.: And her family, too!

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    Arthur April 26, 2014 at 10:21 am #

    Lame-duck congressman who French-kissed birthers anticipates deep probe of his own!

    “GOP Rep. Steve Stockman Says He’s Facing Ethics Probe”

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/steve-stockman-ethics-probe

  57. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 26, 2014 at 10:52 am #

    Arthur:
    Lame-duck congressman who French-kissed birthers anticipates deep probe of his own!

    “GOP Rep. Steve Stockman Says He’s Facing Ethics Probe”

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/steve-stockman-ethics-probe

    Oh, I expect some heavy rocking back and forth and mouth foaming at BR, over that one. They can’t very well have their mythical “Stockman bill” without Stockman.

  58. avatar
    Arthur April 26, 2014 at 12:04 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Oh, I expect some heavy rocking back and forth and mouth foaming at BR, over that one.

    I expect something like this: “You can tell Zullo is getting close to releasing his universe-shattering evidence because Obama’s gang is trying to silence birthers–you know you’re over the target when he flak get’s heavy; keep the faith!!!”

  59. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 26, 2014 at 12:19 pm #

    Arthur: I expect something like this: “You can tell Zullo is getting close to releasing his universe-shattering evidence because Obama’s gang is trying to silence birthers–you know you’re over the target when he flak get’s heavy; keep the faith!!!”

    I’ve seen “over the target” comments for the better part of two years now. I didn’t know you could do VTOL-style hovering at high altitudes, for such a long duration, but then again, I’n no aviator.

  60. avatar
    Arthur April 26, 2014 at 12:31 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: I’ve seen “over the target” comments for the better part of two years now.

    Yeah, that nonsense is very attractive to birthers. Of course, not only are they not over the target, they don’t have any bombs and their “plane” is motorized shopping cart with a dead battery.

  61. avatar
    J.D. Sue April 26, 2014 at 12:49 pm #

    The Magic M (not logged in):
    Arthur: The notion that African Americans were better off under slavery is an notion that conservatives have been advocating for years

    Not uncommon. German right-wingers (those who deny the Holocaust) maintain that the concentration camps meant “good meals, clean bodies and productive work for the Jews”.

    Then again when I say “German right-wingers” in this context, I don’t mean mainstream party politicians but Neo-Nazi scum.

    —————————

    Amazing how some people claim to be champions of freedom–their own freedom, that is–while extolling the virtues of other people’s enslavement.

    When I hear the American right wing insist that more hard labor, like cotton-picking, is a virtue, I am reminded of “Arbeit Macht Frei”.

  62. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 26, 2014 at 3:07 pm #


    Cliven Bundy is no racist; he is a man of compassion.

    – Pastor James David Manning
    The Manning Report

  63. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 26, 2014 at 5:37 pm #

    For some reason that I cannot explain, this site has never had a Privacy policy. There is one now:

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/privacy/

  64. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 26, 2014 at 5:51 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:

    Cliven Bundy is no racist; he is a man of compassion.

    – Pastor James David Manning
    The Manning Report

    Great, now I gotta buy another irony compensator.

  65. avatar
    Keith April 26, 2014 at 10:17 pm #

    Arthur: The notion that African Americans were better off under slavery is an notion that conservatives have been advocating for years:

    The theme is quite old. In the olden days, when I was a lad in school, we discussed the idea that the European peasants were better off under serfdom. If a bunch of hormone drenched, smart-alecky, know-it-all ninth graders can figure out what a bigoted point of view that is, grown-ups with some actual experience of the world should be able to link the two views.

    If this guy Bundy thinks slavery was so darn beneficial, why doesn’t he sell his ass to someone and stop promoting the idea that no one can tell him what to do.

    Only those desirous of owning slaves (or serfs, if you prefer) think it is a reasonable proposition. As the American oligarchy entrenches itself more and more, there are going to be more and more pressure to give up all pretense to personal freedom for the masses and return to a serf economy. The oligarchs have the middle class on a downward spiral and their quaintly titled ‘libertarian’ propaganda is being subtly (or not so subtly in some cases) inveigled into the ears of the population. It won’t be long before people start thinking that they are better off as serfs. I just wonder what they will call it so it doesn’t sound like ‘serf’ or ‘slave’. ‘Proles’ perhaps?

  66. avatar
    Lancelot Link April 26, 2014 at 10:24 pm #

    J.D. Sue:

    Amazing how some people claim to be champions of freedom–their own freedom, that is–while extolling the virtues of other people’s enslavement.

    “How is it that we hear the loudest yelps for liberty among the drivers of negroes?”
    -Samuel Johnson, 1775

  67. avatar
    Majority Will April 26, 2014 at 10:27 pm #

    Keith: I just wonder what they will call it so it doesn’t sound like ‘serf’ or ‘slave’. ‘Proles’ perhaps?

    ‘Muricans.

  68. avatar
    Bonsall Obot April 26, 2014 at 10:36 pm #

    Keith:

    It won’t be long before people start thinking that they are better off as serfs. I just wonder what they will call it so it doesn’t sound like ‘serf’ or ‘slave’. ‘Proles’ perhaps?

    “Associate” or “team member.”

  69. avatar
    Thinker April 27, 2014 at 2:23 am #

    I just finished listening to Shrimpton’s interview with Gillar. Pure batshittery from beginning to end. Shrimpton is an expert on everything and knows everyone but, alas, he can’t provide any verifiable information about anything. And all the secret things he knows are well-known by government intelligence agencies all over the world, but he is apparently the only person who will admit it publicly. His particular fixation appears to be with Germany. Lots of famous people were German spies, including BHO Sr. and Grandma Dunham.

    Gillar seemed to buy all his nonsense. They’re both nuts.

  70. avatar
    RanTalbott April 27, 2014 at 3:12 am #

    The Magic M (not logged in): I guess when even an involved court waives its rights, the petition is deader than dead

    It isn’t only merely dead: it’s really quite sincerely dead.

    I don’t suppose there’s any chance that Vogt will shrivel up and leave us his ruby slippers, so we can send all the birfers to Kansas.

    Or, maybe better: Alaska. Just click your heels together three times, and say “There’s no place like Nome”. Then they could fulfill their dream of having Putin as president by seceding and becoming part of Russia again.

  71. avatar
    RanTalbott April 27, 2014 at 3:16 am #

    gorefan: Shrimpton on Gillar’s Tea party Power Hour:

    Maybe Shrimpton can persuade his buddies at MI6 to find the missing Hawaii coding manual.

  72. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 27, 2014 at 8:38 am #

    “I can see Russia from my house.”

    – Tina Fey
    – Saturday Night live

    RanTalbott: Or, maybe better: Alaska. Just click your heels together three times, and say “There’s no place like Nome”. Then they could fulfill their dream of having Putin as president by seceding and becoming part of Russia again.

  73. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 27, 2014 at 8:45 am #

    Because white people can’t be flogged to death for saying that?

    Lancelot Link: “How is it that we hear the loudest yelps for liberty among the drivers of negroes?”
    -Samuel Johnson, 1775

  74. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 27, 2014 at 8:49 am #

    April 23 site statistics are posted.

  75. avatar
    donna April 27, 2014 at 10:53 am #

    obama’s statement in malaysia – let the conspiracies begin/continue

    Many of you know this part of the world has special meaning for me.

    I was born in Hawaii, right in the middle of the Pacific. I lived in Indonesia as a boy. (Applause.)

    Hey! There’s the Indonesian contingent. (Applause.)

    Yes, that’s where they’re from. My sister, Maya, was born in Jakarta.

    She’s married to a man whose parents were born here — my brother-in-law’s father in Sandakan, and his mom in Kudat. (Applause.)

    And my mother spent years working in the villages of Southeast Asia, helping women buy sewing machines or gain an education so that they could better earn a living.

    And as I mentioned last night to His Majesty the King, and the Prime Minister, I’m very grateful for the Islamic Arts Museum Malaysia for hosting an exhibit that showcased some of my mother’s batik collection, because it meant a lot to her and it’s part of the connection that I felt and I continue to feel to this region.

    So the Asia Pacific, with its rich cultures and beautiful traditions and vibrant society — that’s all part of who I am. It helped shape how I see the world. And it’s also helped to shape my approach as President.

    [....]

    One program that we’re proud of here in Malaysia is the Fulbright English Teaching Assistant Program. (Applause.) Hey, there we go. (Laughter.) Over the past two years, nearly 200 Americans have come here, and they haven’t just taught English — they’ve made lifelong friendships with their students and their communities.

    http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-color-red-obama-in-kl-font-full-obama-remarks-at-the-yseali-town-hall-1.580664

  76. avatar
    Jim April 27, 2014 at 11:42 am #

    donna:
    obama’s statement in malaysia – let the conspiracies begin/continue

    Maybe they can come up with some new material…their stuff has become VERY stale. :D

  77. avatar
    Suranis April 27, 2014 at 5:23 pm #

    One of the reasons that the Germans called the “concentration camps,” was itself a bit of Propaganda. They alluded to the camps set up by the British in the Boer war. After the first 6 months where the British treatment of the Boers in the camps created an international outcry, the camp condition did indeed become very good, and the Boer Commandos and amy actually sent their women and children to the camps as they would be better taken care of than they would be on the run.

    So “concentration camps” actually had a good reputation up until the Nazi atrocities were confirmed.

    Interesting bit of history moment for the day.

    The Magic M (not logged in): Not uncommon. German right-wingers (those who deny the Holocaust) maintain that the concentration camps meant “good meals, clean bodies and productive work for the Jews”.

    Then again when I say “German right-wingers” in this context, I don’t mean mainstream party politicians but Neo-Nazi scum.

  78. avatar
    Suranis April 27, 2014 at 5:26 pm #

    I think Palin actually said “You can see Russia from Alaska” Which on a good visibility day is true, I Imagine. Her point that this is why she understood foreign type stuff was still daft of course.

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    “I can see Russia from my house.”

    – Tina Fey
    – Saturday Night live

  79. avatar
    RanTalbott April 27, 2014 at 5:27 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: “I can see Russia from my house.”

    I love that line: it so perfectly distills the inanity of Palin’s reckless exaggeration, and the unwarranted value she gives to things that are largely irrelevant.

    Ironically, though, I’ve been known to use it, myself: when the RWNJs make ridiculous claims about how the cartels “have turned the border region into a violent third-world hellhole”, I sometimes point out that I can see Mexico from my front porch, and the area where I live, despite containing two of the busiest corridors for drug and human trafficking, has one of the lowest violent crime rates in the country.

  80. avatar
    Black Lion April 27, 2014 at 9:00 pm #

    More birther insanity…This time from some frings website the “Freedom Outpost”….The insanity is strong over there…

    “It is difficult to ascertain which reports might be credible and which are fabrication. But one thing we do know for certain is that Barack Obama, to this day has not been able to produce a birth certificate. That statement will immediately draw the ire of some, but it is true. I didn’t say that he has not provided a real birth certificate. He has not produced a birth certificate…–period. A “certificate of live birth” is not the same as a birth certificate. An official birth certificate would include footprints, among other things.”

    Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/04/evidence-stanley-ann-dunham-barack-obamas-real-mother/#FYb8HtEcpR4xmvzw.99

  81. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 27, 2014 at 11:50 pm #

    Can anyone tell me why birthers seem to think all these guys who Obama looks nothing at all like, are somehow his dad?

  82. avatar
    The Magic M (not logged in) April 28, 2014 at 4:51 am #

    Black Lion (quoting a Freeper): A “certificate of live birth” is not the same as a birth certificate. An official birth certificate would include footprints, among other things.

    And we’re back to 2009, post COLB release. It’s really déjà-vu all over again.

  83. avatar
    Suranis April 28, 2014 at 5:14 am #

    Because his mom was a whore who screwed black guys and who therefore opened her legs for every black guy who shared the same continent for 5 minutes.

    I mean, lets face it, Obama Sr was a an alcoholic violent bigamist lapsed Muslim, but sadly had bugger all to do with the raising of his son. And there is only so much outrage you can get from raning about these self evident facts before you have to get the same emotional charge by getting outraged about imaginary men and other stuff. That’s why Hillary Clinton was both a Lesbian and had an affair with Vince Foster.

    Andrew Vrba, PmG:
    Can anyone tell me why birthers seem to think all these guys who Obama looks nothing at all like, are somehow his dad?

  84. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 28, 2014 at 9:23 am #

    What gets me, is that most of the candidates of their “Who’s the daddy?” game are Americans. If that were the case, Obama would be “DOUBLE eligible”, as both his parents would have been citizens. What birther in their unright mind would want that particular theory to be true?

  85. avatar
    Bonsall Obot April 28, 2014 at 10:10 am #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG:
    Can anyone tell me why birthers seem to think all these guys who Obama looks nothing at all like, are somehow his dad?

    Because “they” all look alike, to a Birfer?

  86. avatar
    Joey April 28, 2014 at 12:31 pm #

    Suranis:
    I think Palin actually said “You can see Russia from Alaska” Which on a good visibility day is true, I Imagine. Her point that this is why she understood foreign type stuff was still daft of course.

    Little Diomede Island (native name Ignaluk;) is an island of Alaska, United States. It is the smaller of the two Diomede Islands located in the middle of the Bering Strait between the Alaska mainland and Siberia. Its neighboring island Big Diomede is less than 2.4 mi (3.9 km) to the west, but is part of Russia and west of the International Date Line. Little Diomede has an estimated population of 75.

  87. avatar
    Sef April 29, 2014 at 8:04 am #

    Rod Class has been into the sauce again: http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-48361/TS-855241.mp3

  88. avatar
    Dave April 29, 2014 at 2:22 pm #

    Over at BR they have a post that Gallups says that Zullo says the press conference will be soon. A couple commenters actually manage to simulate excitement.

    At least BR doesn’t call this breaking news any more.

  89. avatar
    CarlOrcas April 29, 2014 at 2:32 pm #

    Dave:
    Over at BR they have a post that Gallups says that Zullo says the press conference will be soon. A couple commenters actually manage to simulate excitement.

    At least BR doesn’t call this breaking news any more.

    More likely it should be called “Broken News”.

  90. avatar
    Bonsall Obot April 29, 2014 at 2:34 pm #

    Dave:
    Over at BR they have a post that Gallups says that Zullo says the press conference will be soon. A couple commenters actually manage to simulate excitement.

    At least BR doesn’t call this breaking news any more.

    “Soon” is a word without meaning in Birferstan, and Gallups is a ridiculous person.

  91. avatar
    JoZeppy April 29, 2014 at 3:05 pm #

    Bonsall Obot: “Soon” is a word without meaning in Birferstan, and Gallups is a ridiculous person.

    Any……day…….now…….

  92. avatar
    Arthur April 29, 2014 at 6:24 pm #

    I wish I was a birther. At Birther Report they get to post the funniest Photoshopped images, and they never have to stay on topic. And they can swear and make outrageous claims, and no one ever says anything. And they have nested comments, and call each other names, and their internet handles are patriotic. And it’s exciting! The universe-shattering news is just around the river bend! The discomfiture of the enemy is coming soon! And any day now, we will all be proven right! I imagine it’s like being a bridegroom on his wedding day, with the big night just a few words away. Of course, others might say it’s more like Naria–always winter and never Christmas, but those people are Obots.

  93. avatar
    Bonsall Obot April 29, 2014 at 8:20 pm #

    While it’s not strictly Birfer-related (except inasmuch as I guarantee every person appearing in this video is at least a passive Birfer,) this is an interesting look at the schism developing on the Bundy Ranch between the Fascist People’s Front and the People’s Front for Fascism:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/29/1295445/-Bundy-Ranch-Oath-Keepers-Lucky-They-Didn-t-Get-Shot-In-The-Back-For-Deserting-Bundy-Battlefield

    The rhetoric reminds me of nothing so much as birdboy, ScottKB ( who is TOTALLY hetero and has a hot wife, you guys, so stop laughing,) and all the other faux-tough guys at BR.

    This is a deeply stupid group of seditionists.

  94. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 29, 2014 at 8:46 pm #

    Special edition of RC Radio WEDNESDAY at 9 PM EDT with Frank Arduini and Charles Tuttle:

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/rcr/2014/05/01/rc-radio–frank-arduini-and-charles-tuttle

  95. avatar
    Arthur April 29, 2014 at 10:43 pm #

    Bonsall Obot: The rhetoric reminds me of nothing so much as birdboy, ScottKB ( who is TOTALLY hetero and has a hot wife, you guys, so stop laughing,) and all the other faux-tough guys at BR.

    Oh, God, that was amusing. What a bunch of buffoons. I’ve seen better soldiering from a bunch of third graders playing army in the woods. Thanks for the link!

  96. avatar
    Rickey April 29, 2014 at 10:44 pm #

    Apuzzo’s SCOTUS petition for Brooke Paige was officially dead filed today. Does Apuzzo realize this? Has he learned anything from his past SCOTUS failure?

    No. 13-1076
    Title:
    H. Brooke Paige, Petitioner
    v.
    Vermont, et al.
    Docketed: March 10, 2014
    Lower Ct: Supreme Court of Vermont
    Case Nos.: (2012-439)
    Decision Date: October 18, 2013
    Rehearing Denied: December 6, 2013

    ~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Mar 6 2014 Petition for a writ of certiorari filed. (Response due April 9, 2014)
    Mar 26 2014 Waiver of right of respondents Vermont, et al. to respond filed.
    Apr 29 2014 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of May 15, 2014.

  97. avatar
    Bonsall Obot April 29, 2014 at 10:52 pm #

    Countdown to Crook Paige demanding we wait to see whether cert is granted…

  98. avatar
    Bonsall Obot April 29, 2014 at 11:18 pm #

    By the way, Arthur…

    Manning = Pastor William Rennick
    Zullo = Jay Santos of the Citizens’ Auxiliary Police
    Gallups = Bud Dickman

    Phil Hendrie saw these kooks coming a mile away.

  99. avatar
    RanTalbott April 29, 2014 at 11:21 pm #

    Rickey: Apr 23 2014 Waiver of right of respondent United States District Court for the Western District of Washington to respond filed.

    I don’t see a schedule item for the cert petition, itself. Does that mean it won’t make the May 15 conference? It would be a really nice touch to have both Vogt’s and Paige’s denials announced during OAS.

  100. avatar
    gorefan April 30, 2014 at 12:52 am #

    Rickey: May 15, 2014.

    One day before OAS starts. The Court wants to get it started by granting Paige’s petition. Just kidding. Although I bet Paige would believe it.

  101. avatar
    Rickey April 30, 2014 at 1:11 am #

    RanTalbott: I don’t see a schedule item for the cert petition, itself. Does that mean it won’t make the May 15 conference? It would be a really nice touch to have both Vogt’s and Paige’s denials announced during OAS.

    It will be a doubleheader. Both cert petitions are being conferenced on May 15 and both will be formally denied on May 19.

    Vogt’s motion for expedited consideration has already been denied, so the only thing remaining is his cert petition.

    SCOTUS usually conferences on Fridays, but they are changing that to Thursdays effective May 15. .

  102. avatar
    Lupin April 30, 2014 at 2:31 am #

    Bonsall Obot: Countdown to Crook Paige demanding we wait to see whether cert is granted…

    Based on what he wrote here, I don’t think of Brooke Paige as a crook, more like a very gullible, not very smart man, blinded by his racial prejudice, and seduced by Mario Apuzzo (who knows better) into believing a lot of tripe.

  103. avatar
    The Magic M April 30, 2014 at 4:17 am #

    gorefan: One day before OAS starts. The Court wants to get it started by granting Paige’s petition. Just kidding. Although I bet Paige would believe it.

    I’ve seen people at BR say something to that effect. That means they’ve already “forgotten” their failed prediction about SCOTUS and the Laity case coinciding with their, ahem, “winning” case at Alabama SC meant they will “finally win”.

  104. avatar
    The Magic M April 30, 2014 at 4:20 am #

    Arthur: The universe-shattering news is just around the river bend!

    OT but related to your post, a new favourite quote I found:

    Time is a river winding steadily through the landscape of tomorrow. There are those who would steal a glimpse around the next bend and those who would fight the current. But the wisest are those who turn their eyes from the waters and seek out a fellow traveler to share in the journey.” (The Outer Limits – Virtual Future)

  105. avatar
    RanTalbott April 30, 2014 at 4:45 am #

    Rickey:

    It will be a doubleheader. Both cert petitions are being conferenced on May 15 and both will be formally denied on May 19

    Bummer: I was hoping they’d announce earlier, given that OAS is likely to break up early just like Klayman’s November Surprise.

    But, maybe Vogt won’t be denied: he’s decided to try his hand at crowd-sourced tree-killing ;-)

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/04/doc-expert-updates-obama-id-fraud-case.html

    Interestingly, he seems to have been so busy raising funds to cover his court cost that he forgot to update his “filing status” webpage to reflect that fact that his motions have already been denied. Oops…

  106. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 30, 2014 at 10:57 am #

    LOL! BR is back to using “bombshell” again, in it’s headers.

  107. avatar
    The Magic M April 30, 2014 at 11:29 am #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: BR is back to using “bombshell” again

    Next, we’ll see “shock claim”, “shock proof” and “startling new evidence” again, of course all “breaking”.

    As a funny side note, “to break” in its generic meaning translates to “brechen” in German which in turn has the second meaning “to vomit”. ;)
    (“Breaking news” however would be “Brandaktuelle Nachrichten”, not “Brechende Nachrichten”.)

  108. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 30, 2014 at 11:36 am #

    The Magic M: Next, we’ll see “shock claim”, “shock proof” and “startling new evidence” again, of course all “breaking”.

    As a funny side note, “to break” in its generic meaning translates to “brechen” in German which in turn has the second meaning “to vomit”.
    (“Breaking news” however would be “Brandaktuelle Nachrichten”, not “Brechende Nachrichten”.)

    Oh! and “Felony Fraud”, that’s a favorite of mine.

  109. avatar
    roadburner April 30, 2014 at 1:11 pm #

    banned again by BR!

    looks like bob didn´t appreciate me bitchslapping the locals in this thread…..

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/04/doc-expert-updates-obama-id-fraud-case.html

    so he erased half my replies and banned me…again! :D

    maybe pointing out the reed hayes/perkins cole fallacy might have been a step too far for him

    :D

  110. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 30, 2014 at 2:46 pm #

    I guess I’m the token Obot.

    roadburner: so he erased half my replies and banned me…again! :D

    maybe pointing out the reed hayes/perkins cole fallacy might have been a step too far for him

  111. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 30, 2014 at 2:59 pm #

    Someone ought to produce a Youtube video in the style of a “greatest hits” album.
    “Birtherism greatest misses!” A compilation of the best birther fails of the last six years. Such favorites as “Any Day Now(Oh Lordy!)”, “We’ve got a Bombshell”, “Any Day Now – the Dubstep mix”, “Felony Fraud”, “One honest judge”, “Any Day Now – Karaoke version”. “We’ve go those Obots on the run!”, “Hey Judge, let me feeeenish!” and many many more! Order in the next 30 minutes and get a free stick-on pornstach, in either Zullo or Farah.

  112. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 30, 2014 at 3:58 pm #

    I was musing about a Goldilocks and the Three Birthers story.

    This PDF has too few layers.
    No, it has too many layers.
    No matter how many layers, it will never be just right.

  113. avatar
    Rickey April 30, 2014 at 4:13 pm #

    RanTalbott:

    Interestingly, he seems to have been so busy raising funds to cover his court cost that he forgot to update his “filing status” webpage to reflect that fact that his motions have already been denied. Oops…

    The birthers refuse to believe how the Supreme Court works, no matter how many times they are told.

    I remember back in 2008 when the first birther lawsuit went to the Supreme Court (Berg v. Obama), the court docket showed that a response was due on December 1. The birthers were all excited because they believed that Obama was going to have to produce his birth certificate on December 1. Of course, what actually happened is that the respondents waived their right to respond and the petition was denied.

    Birthers are very slow learners.

  114. avatar
    Arthur April 30, 2014 at 4:27 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I guess I’m the token Obot.

    You and a poster named “Eleanor”–she/he has been posting a pretty long time using a variation on, “Well, after reading this, I’m DEFINITELY going to write my congressman.”

  115. avatar
    Crustacean April 30, 2014 at 5:15 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: I guess I’m the token Obot.

    I realize you meant that tongue-in-cheek, Doc, but you’re not token material. A proper token should have no gravitas. Someone they can point to and say, “See? We accept all kinds here,” but also someone they could easily beat down and humiliate (kind of like the role Alan Colmes filled on Fox News).

    Your injection of logic and reason into that blog just makes them look even crazier. I don’t understand why you haven’t been banned, but I don’t think it’s because they feel the need for a token. I wish I had a better theory.

  116. avatar
    Northland10 April 30, 2014 at 6:09 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I was musing about a Goldilocks and the Three Birthers story.

    This PDF has too few layers.
    No, it has too many layers.
    No matter how many layers, it will never be just right.

    This PDF has to few layers.
    This PDF has to many layers.
    This PDF is just white.

  117. avatar
    gorefan April 30, 2014 at 7:44 pm #

    Arthur: You and a poster named “Eleanor”–she/he has been posting a pretty long time using a variation on, “Well, after reading this, I’m DEFINITELY going to write my congressman.”

    I always laugh when I see her/his deadpan delivery.

  118. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 30, 2014 at 8:35 pm #

    Of the “Obots” I have probably been one of the most prolific and longstanding web presences. By letting me post at BR, they avoid the charge that they are afraid of what the other side has to say. If they let many dissenting voices in, then it would give the impression that objections to birthers are widespread, but by limiting Obot voices, they can make it appear that there are just a few Obama minions causing trouble. So that’s why I think I get to post there, and most others don’t.

    A less-likely scenario is that they hope I will spill something. I try to be pretty candid over there and someone who actually pays attention can learn something.

    Crustacean: Your injection of logic and reason into that blog just makes them look even crazier. I don’t understand why you haven’t been banned, but I don’t think it’s because they feel the need for a token. I wish I had a better theory.

  119. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 30, 2014 at 8:41 pm #

    What I meant was that they have an Obot because they need one for appearance sake.

    Crustacean: I realize you meant that tongue-in-cheek, Doc,

  120. avatar
    Arthur April 30, 2014 at 9:14 pm #

    A very interesting show on Reality Check tonight–all about the nefarious Carl Gallups.

  121. avatar
    Rickey April 30, 2014 at 10:41 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Of the “Obots” I have probably been one of the most prolific and longstanding web presences. By letting me post at BR, they avoid the charge that they are afraid of what the other side has to say. If they let many dissenting voices in, then it would give the impression that objections to birthers are widespread, but by limiting Obot voices, they can make it appear that there are just a few Obama minions causing trouble. So that’s why I think I get to post there, and most others don’t.

    That makes sense. My sock puppet gets an occasional post through, but mostly they go into moderation and are never head from again.

    My theory is that the owner of BR knows that the irrational optimism of the birthers has to be stoked in order to drive traffic to the site.

  122. avatar
    Arthur April 30, 2014 at 11:00 pm #

    Question from a poster at B.R. to Dr. C.:

    “D.Conspiracy didn’t answer my question on the other article. So I’ll put it here. Did Obama ever submit an official and registrar certified Hawaii Department of Health birth certificate to the U.S. Department of State to receive a U.S. passport?”

  123. avatar
    bovril April 30, 2014 at 11:56 pm #

    The answer is that since Doc wasn’t there he can’t say, however Obama would have had to submit all the required paperwork at the time of the application which probably did include a Hawai’i BC.

  124. avatar
    John Reilly May 1, 2014 at 12:52 am #

    Perhaps I’ve missed some earlier reference to this, but our friend Mr. Klayman lost yet again, and faces an attorney’s fees award.

    http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/04/23/67278.htm

  125. avatar
    John Reilly May 1, 2014 at 12:53 am #

    And in further searching, here is the judge’s opinion:

    http://nylawyer.nylj.com/adgifs/decisions14/042414rothstein.pdf

  126. avatar
    Rickey May 1, 2014 at 2:45 am #

    John Reilly:
    And in further searching, here is the judge’s opinion:

    http://nylawyer.nylj.com/adgifs/decisions14/042414rothstein.pdf

    Klayman’s client, Vincent Forras, is a controversial figure who has made a career of supposedly being a damaged 9/11 first responder.

    Forras was a member of the South Salem, N.Y. Volunteer Fire Department. South Salem is approximately 60 miles north of Ground Zero, and its fire department was not asked to come to Manhattan. Forras claims that he went there on his own, that he remained there for weeks, that at one point he was buried under rubble for two hours, etc. His claims have been disputed by other firefighters.

    He subsequently started a foundation called Gear Up, which supposedly was going to provide fire fighting equipment for poor countries and was supposedly going to support injured 9/11 first responders in unspecified ways.

    How Forras got hooked up with Klayman is a mystery to me, In the New York lawsuit, which was dismissed, the court remarked that the plaintiff’s claims were “poorly pleaded” by Klayman.

    Forras now has initiated litigation against The Village Voice and other defendants for defamation. is is one of The Village Voice pieces which he objects to. Klayman is not representing Forras in the new lawsuit.

    http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/09/controversy_swe.php

  127. avatar
    Thinker May 1, 2014 at 4:52 am #

    Speaking of Larry Klayman: The government filed a scathing opposition to Klayman’s motion for class certification in his NSA lawsuit. http://www.scribd.com/doc/221225015/Klayman-v-Obama-DCD-III-14-cv-00092-12

    They point out that his motion fails for a variety of reasons, but they dedicate 9 pages to their contention that Klayman is not qualified to be the lawyer for the proposed class because of his long history of misbehavior. And even with 9 pages, they left out a lot of stuff. For example, there is nothing in there about his misbehavior during his Ohio custody dispute, and the judge in that case detailed A LOT of misbehavior. There’s also nothing in there about his unethical behavior in representing former Judicial Watch clients and donors in lawsuits against Judicial Watch after he left the organization. In at least one case, a judge ordered him removed as the plaintiff’s lawyer. This issue is the basis for his 4-day DC Bar disciplinary committee hearing in June. A thorough presentation of Klayman’s unethical behavior would take up at least 50 pages.

  128. avatar
    Jim May 1, 2014 at 10:08 am #

    Just for fun, Sheriff Joe’s got a new prisoner…

    http://news.yahoo.com/pit-bull-that-mauled-young-boy-sentenced-to-life-in-sheriff-s-shelter-214530656.html?vp=1

    Wonder if he’ll have to wear pink underwear? :lol:

  129. avatar
    Dave May 1, 2014 at 2:46 pm #

    Getting a passport requires a document that proves identity, and a document that proves citizenship. The Dept. of State has a list of acceptable documents; but I think the most usual documents to prove citizenship are a birth certificate, or a recently expired passport.

    It is obvious to everyone but a birther that the HI birth certificate Obama released in 2008 would be acceptable as proof of citizenship for purposes of getting a passport. But of course we have no way of knowing exactly what document Obama used, nor — and this is so typical of birthers — nor does it make any difference.

    bovril:
    The answer is that since Doc wasn’t there he can’t say, however Obama would have had to submit all the required paperwork at the time of the application which probably did include a Hawai’i BC.

  130. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy May 1, 2014 at 6:24 pm #

    That was the 222,222nd comment on the blog.

    gorefan: I always laugh when I see her/his deadpan delivery.

  131. avatar
    Crustacean May 1, 2014 at 7:13 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: That was the 222,222nd comment on the blog.

    As Vin Scully puts it: Deuces wild!

    Does gorefan win a commemorative plate, or 2-digit cancellation stamp or something?

  132. avatar
    Keith May 1, 2014 at 7:21 pm #

    Dave: It is obvious to everyone but a birther that the HI birth certificate Obama released in 2008 would be acceptable as proof of citizenship for purposes of getting a passport. But of course we have no way of knowing exactly what document Obama used, nor — and this is so typical of birthers — nor does it make any difference.

    And don’t forget that he got his passport when he was what? Ten? Whatever proof he and his mother used was convincing at the time.

  133. avatar
    gorefan May 1, 2014 at 7:26 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    That was the 222,222nd comment on the blog.

    Boy, that’s a lot of 2s.

  134. avatar
    Bonsall Obot May 1, 2014 at 8:37 pm #

    gorefan: Boy, that’s a lot of 2s.

    And it happened in the second year of the second term of “Obama.”

    There are no coincidences. Ask a Birfer.

  135. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy May 1, 2014 at 10:21 pm #

    Age 6 (possibly on his mother’s passport, but the same requirements).

    Keith: nor does it make any difference.

    And don’t forget that he got his passport when he was what?

  136. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy May 1, 2014 at 10:23 pm #

    By the way, the [near] ground zero Islamic center is back in the news again, this time as an Islamic museum with a “prayer center.”

    Orly is all over it, but inaccurately.

    John Reilly: Perhaps I’ve missed some earlier reference to this, but our friend Mr. Klayman lost yet again, and faces an attorney’s fees award.

  137. avatar
    Rickey May 1, 2014 at 11:35 pm #

    Keith: And don’t forget that he got his passport when he was what? Ten? Whatever proof he and his mother used was convincing at the time.

    And I’m sure that the only role which Obama played in getting his first passport was posing for a photo and signing some forms. His mother undoubtedly supplied the proof of birth.

    As long as Obama renewed his passport every time it came up for renewal, I believe that he would never had had to personally produce a birth certificate.

  138. avatar
    Keith May 2, 2014 at 1:40 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Age 6 (possibly on his mother’s passport, but the same requirements).

    I meant his own personal one when he went back to Hawai’i unaccompanied.

  139. avatar
    gorefan May 2, 2014 at 2:44 am #

    Keith: I meant his own personal one when he went back to Hawai’i unaccompanied.

    He went back in 1968 around Christmas. I believe the mother’s passport renewal with the “Soebarkah” notation might be when he got his own passport. But I’m not sure he would have needed his BC at that time as he was already on his mom’s passport.

  140. avatar
    Crustacean May 2, 2014 at 3:16 pm #

    I’m sure I’m not the first to notice this, but I can’t find a reference to it in the archives.

    For reasons I won’t bore you with, I was reading Zullo’s affidavit and noticed something I hadn’t caught before, in regards to Obama’s “forged” selective service registration:

    “161. Investigators located that particular stamp set but were unsuccessful in locating a four digit 1980 date stamp insert.”

    So according to Zullo’s Sworn Affidavit, that 2-digit date stamp on Obama’s SS card is just fine and dandy. Problem solved! :)

  141. avatar
    RanTalbott May 2, 2014 at 4:52 pm #

    Crustacean: “161. Investigators located that particular stamp set but were unsuccessful in locating a four digit 1980 date stamp insert.”

    That may be the most idiotic of all the birther conspiracy theories: I’ve often pointed out that anyone can go online and order a kit to make absolutely any stamp you want for under $200. Including the expensive UV chamber for curing the polymer, which a professional forger would already have, so the actual cost would be closer to $5 for materials.

    But, for this job, the forger wouldn’t even need to do that, since he would just be making a monochrome (or, at worst, grayscale) image for insertion into the replacement microfilm reel. Which could be done with any graphics program that does pixel-level editing.

    But birfers always assume that everyone else is as stupid as they are, so they invented a tale of someone desperately searching ebay, and scouring flea markets, to try to replicate an antique stamp.

  142. avatar
    RanTalbott May 2, 2014 at 9:25 pm #

    Well, the BR highlight from this week’s Free Dumb Friday is that “Major Media” is still involved in the Great Reveal.

    Apparently, he’s ignoring the stand-down and “no fraternization” orders from Colonel O’Truth.

  143. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy May 2, 2014 at 10:08 pm #

    Check out Larry Klayman’s racial pontification:

    http://www.wnd.com/2014/05/obama-and-friends-racial-divide/

    I think he is upset because Obama has black friends.

  144. avatar
    Dave May 2, 2014 at 11:09 pm #

    Ah, Klayman. First he says that the recent racist comments by Bundy and Sterling were only “perceived” as racism by the “mainstream media.” Then later he says their racist comments are Obama’s fault.

    Got that, racists? You 1) aren’t racist at all, and 2) your racism is the fault of black people.

    Guess we know who Klayman’s target audience is: racists who are pissed off about being called on their racism.

  145. avatar
    Dave May 2, 2014 at 11:46 pm #

    I have an excellent suggestion for BR, but since I, like all Obots other than Doc, have been banned, I can’t post it there. So I’ll post it here.

    It would be great if BR could set up an email list that would be notified when Zullo finally gets around to his Big Press Conference. I’m sure this would be popular with both birthers and anti-birthers, because it would save us all from having to keep going over to BR to read the recycled repetitive crap he keeps posting. It seems clear at this point that there isn’t going to be any more entertainment until Zullo Speaks, and that could be years from now.

  146. avatar
    J.D. Sue May 3, 2014 at 12:17 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: Check out Larry Klayman’s racial pontification:

    http://www.wnd.com/2014/05/obama-and-friends-racial-divide/

    I think he is upset because Obama has black friends.


    I simply cannot adequately express just how much it bothers me when Klayman (and Taitz) speak about Israel and Jews and antisemitism. They are clueless, and extremely inflammatory, and are compatriots and apologists for very real anti-semites. Like Vogt, they are “experts” without expertise (or even common sense), who act like they speak for a community that they certainly don’t speak for. Pure poison.

    As for Klayman’s Caucasian v.African-American rant, well, I appreciate his bald in-yer-face tell it like he sees it confession of his deep seated racist angst. Funny, but I bet his clientele doesn’t even consider Klayman to be white…. Where I come from, a guy like Klayman is a shonda for the goyim–i.e., an embarrassment.

  147. avatar
    Thinker May 3, 2014 at 2:43 am #

    Speaking of Larry Klayman, the Court of Appeals in the District of Columbia upheld the ruling in Bradlee Dean’s lawsuit against Rachel Maddow, so Dean has to pony up ~$25K to pay Maddow’s lawyers. There is a federal lawsuit over the same matter. After the inevitable motion for a rehearing is denied, I suppose that case will start up again and Dean has to once again face the prospect of paying lawyers fees–his own and Maddow’s–for an ill-advised lawsuit that his lawyer badly mishandled.

  148. avatar
    JPotter May 3, 2014 at 7:46 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    The Story of Barack Obama (as told by Conservatives)

    And that was the significantly simplified version. A comprehensive meme-o-dex would probably be longer than Obama’s actual memoirs could ever be. He’s “only” living one life; wingnuts are projecting an infinite tableau onto the man.

  149. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy May 3, 2014 at 8:22 am #

    Change notice from Court in Strunk case:

    Motions: Motion Number: 4
    Date Filed: 05/02/2013
    Filed By: PLAINT
    Relief Sought: Reargument/Reconsideration
    Submit Date: 05/30/2013
    Answer Demanded: No
    Status: Decided: 12-SEP-13 — Information updated
    DENIED SHORT FORM ORDER — Information updated
    Before Justice: NJTRP
    Decision: Memo — Information updated
    Order Signed Date: 09/12/2013 — Information updated

  150. avatar
    Majority Will May 3, 2014 at 8:15 pm #

    Alabama’s chief justice: Buddha didn’t create us so First Amendment only protects Christians

    (excerpt) Speaking at the Pastor for Life Luncheon, which was sponsored by Pro-Life Mississippi, Chief Justice Roy Moore of the Alabama Supreme Court declared that the First Amendment only applies to Christians because “Buddha didn’t create us, Mohammed didn’t create us, it was the God of the Holy Scriptures” who created us.

    “They didn’t bring the Koran over on the pilgrim ship,” he continued. “Let’s get real, let’s go back and learn our history. Let’s stop playing games.”

    (source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/02/alabamas-chief-justice-buddha-didnt-create-us-so-first-amendment-only-protects-christians/)

  151. avatar
    RanTalbott May 3, 2014 at 10:27 pm #

    Majority Will: Alabama’s chief justice: Buddha didn’t create us so First Amendment only protects Christians

    Well, the First says only “Congress shall make no law” about establishing a religion, not “judges shall not make asses of themselves in public”, so he’s not in violation again. Yet. But give him a little more rope: he’ll bring a whole new meaning to the term “hanging judge”.

    Majority Will: “Let’s get real, let’s go back and learn our history”

    I’m guessing Hizzoner didn’t “learn our history” enough to know that, bein’ a Baptist (probably, I don’t actually know) “heretic” ‘n all, those pilgrims might well have executed him (bringing yet another meaning to “hanging judge”).

  152. avatar
    Black Lion May 3, 2014 at 11:11 pm #

    More “any time now” fiction from WND…Hilarious…

    Trial That Could Expose Obama As Kenyan Postponed Until After Midterms

    WorldNetDaily was reportedly the only media outlet present during the hearing despite – or perhaps because of – the fact that this case could blow the lid off of Obama’s much-disputed birth story.

    ——————————————————————————–

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/trial-expose-obama-kenyan-postponed-midterms/#!

  153. avatar
    JPotter May 3, 2014 at 11:14 pm #

    Majority Will: the pilgrim ship … Let’s get real, let’s go back and learn our history.

    Maybe after The Moore-on goes back and “learn[s] our history”, he’ll be able to name a specific ‘Pilgrim ship’ LOL

  154. avatar
    Majority Will May 4, 2014 at 2:41 am #

    “Let’s face it Fox, you’ll miss me when I’m gone. It’ll be harder to convince the American people that Hillary was born in Kenya.”

    - President Obama at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner

  155. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy May 4, 2014 at 7:23 am #

    I guess Moore hasn’t heard of the obscure religious sect called Judaism.

    Majority Will: (excerpt) Speaking at the Pastor for Life Luncheon, which was sponsored by Pro-Life Mississippi, Chief Justice Roy Moore of the Alabama Supreme Court declared that the First Amendment only applies to Christians because “Buddha didn’t create us, Mohammed didn’t create us, it was the God of the Holy Scriptures” who created us.

  156. avatar
    JoZeppy May 4, 2014 at 7:57 am #

    Obama goes back to the birther well at the White House correspondents dinner:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/03/obama-birthers_n_5261277.html

    Obama congratulated Meb Keflezighi for winning the Boston Marathon, noting that he was the first American to win the Boston Marathon in 31 years.

    “It’s only fair since a Kenyan has been president for the last six,” Obama said.

    Later in his speech, after giving Fox News a hard time, Obama said the network would be sorry to see him leave office.

    “You’ll miss me when I’m gone,” Obama said. “It’ll be harder to convince the American people that Hillary was born in Kenya.”

  157. avatar
    Majority Will May 4, 2014 at 9:43 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I guess Moore hasn’t heard of the obscure religious sect called Judaism.

    This deranged, self-righteous bigot probably thinks Jews like me just need to be “perfected” Coulter-style.

  158. avatar
    bovril May 4, 2014 at 10:06 am #

    JoZeppy: “It’s only fair since a Kenyan has been president for the last six,” Obama said.
    Later in his speech, after giving Fox News a hard time, Obama said the network would be sorry to see him leave office.

    I caught this by chance when I was flicking the channels in Bangkok and spat a mouthful of Singha beer over the screen.

    Curiously enough, the comment doesn’t seemed to have raised the traditional apoplectic screams and conspiracy mongering over at Freak Rethuglic

  159. avatar
    Majority Will May 4, 2014 at 10:24 am #

    How ‘American’ Are You? Let This Quiz Be The Judge.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/30/how-american-are-you_n_5214860.html

  160. avatar
    JD Sue May 4, 2014 at 11:56 am #

    Majority Will: Dr. Conspiracy:
    I guess Moore hasn’t heard of the obscure religious sect called Judaism.

    This deranged, self-righteous bigot probably thinks Jews like me just need to be “perfected” Coulter-style.

    —–
    I think he heard of us, since the AJC demanded a state judicial inquiry when he said the same thing back in the 90s. http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1891&dat=19970412&id=5sIfAAAAIBAJ&sjid=KtgEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5078,1205525

    Hmmm. So that’s Orly’s one honest Judge, huh?

  161. avatar
    Majority Will May 4, 2014 at 7:47 pm #

    JD Sue: http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1891&dat=19970412&id=5sIfAAAAIBAJ&sjid=KtgEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5078,1205525

    Thanks for the link. Interesting.

  162. avatar
    JD Sue May 4, 2014 at 10:14 pm #

    Majority Will: Thanks for the link. Interesting.


    You’re welcome. P.S. I think I’d have to kill myself before becoming as “perfect” as Ann Coulter, Judge Moore, et al. Whenever I think of Coulter, I think of the town she grew up in–New Canaan, Connecticut. When I was a kid in 1966, my family looked to move from NY to the Conn. suburbs, and New Canaan was a town we had to skip over in our search for a home–they had a “gentlemen’s agreement” not to sell to anyone descended from the real Land of Canaan…. Its the same area and gentlemen’s agreement that Gregory Peck made famous in the movie.