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Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses, except Michael Shrimpton

Christopher Earl Strunk has a lawsuit in progress, at which he would like Michael Shrimpton to testify. The whole convoluted business can be found in a new lawsuit against the Department of State mostly (plus some others).

According to the complaint in an “Intent to file” motion in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia (1:2014cv00995), Strunk sent Michael Shrimpton a round-trip plane ticket for the US so that he might testify for Strunk, but when Shrimpton applied for a visa to visit the US, it was denied. This suit wants that denial reversed. Of course, every visa denial comes with a reason, and in this case it was because Shrimpton was not able to convince the US Consul in London that if the US let Shrimpton in, that he would return home when the visa period ended. Someone seeking a non-immigrant visa to the US has to show significant ties to their home community.

imageThe short paragraph preceding probably does not convey every nuance of the 132-page filing, and the interested reader can supplement my summary with the original complaint linked above; however, readers may want to consider first donning a pair of Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive sunglasses. Also one may reference the Department of State discussion of Section 214(b) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, under which Shrimpton’s visa was denied. It is possible that the US Consul was concerned that Shrimpton had been convicted of sex-related criminal misdemeanor charges which Shrimpton is currently appealing, as well as pending criminal charges that he falsely notified the British government of an impending nuclear terrorist attack in 2012.

The Shrimpton testimony seems dubious at best. This is what Strunk wants him to testify to, from an affidavit from Shrimpton (which appears as Exhibit 4 beginning on page 38 of Strunk’s complaint):

20. To the best of my knowledge and belief the DNA test was done and Senator Obama’s claim to be the son of Stanley Ann Dunham could not be supported. I cannot say to the court that either the CIA or DIA came back to me and said so in terms. I would not expect them to and it would be contrary to good intelligence practice. I would however expect to be told if my advice had led to either agency wasting time or resources, not to mention the cost of a good lunch.

21. The outcome of the DNA test, as I understood it to be, was consistent with what I knew of then Senator Obama’s background. It was my understanding then, and still is, that he was born in Mombasa in what was then the Kenyan Protectorate, on or about August 4th (sic) 1960. So far as I know that is the internal view of both MI5 and MI6. The President’s claimed father was known to British intelligence in 1960 due to his connection with the Mau Mau terrorist organization. There is evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham went to Kenya in 1960 (sic), that is to say she cannot have been the mother, assuming the intelligence about the birth in Mombasa to be correct.

Objection, your honor. Hearsay, calls for a conclusion on the part of the witness, irrelevant, incompetent and immaterial.

In general, the Shrimpton Affidavit is given as expert testimony, and the section above is the only place he asserts personal knowledge of fact. His factual testimony is that he told the CIA to test Obama’s DNA, and the fact that they didn’t get back to him means they must have tested the DNA and found that it didn’t match.

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65 Responses to Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses, except Michael Shrimpton

  1. avatar
    mimi June 13, 2014 at 6:20 pm #

    Strunk sent a plane ticket? Doesn’t he file all these suits In forma pauperis or whatever it’s called?

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    truxton spangler June 13, 2014 at 6:26 pm #

    Something doesn’t seem right, Shrimpton was denied a visa? Do UK subjects need a visa to visit the US? I could be wrong, but I doubt they do, at least for tourism.

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    Dr. Conspiracy June 13, 2014 at 6:37 pm #

    I would have though so too, but apparently not. Only those from Canada and the Bahamas are exempt from the visa requirement.

    http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/visit/visitor.html

    truxton spangler:
    Something doesn’t seem right, Shrimpton was denied a visa?Do UK subjects need a visa to visit the US?I could be wrong, but I doubt they do, at least for tourism.

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    Dave June 13, 2014 at 6:43 pm #

    Doc, if you go to that page and click on the link in the upper right corner of the page to the VWP (Visa Waiver Program) you find that the UK is part of that program. I.e., no visa needed for any business or tourism that would be permissible with a B visa.

    I don’t get why he was applying for a visa at all.

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    RanTalbott June 13, 2014 at 6:51 pm #

    Objection, your honor. Hearsay.

    Actually, I believe that would be “Didn’t hearsay”: Shrimpton’s testimony would be “They didn’t tell me to FOAD, or sue me for the dinner tab, so my guesses must be right”.

    That’s even worse than “I got a spammed email from someone I never heard of, assuring me that Obama is a homosexual serial killer, so I’m posting it on every forum where I’m not banned, without bothering to check it for accuracy”.

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    RanTalbott June 13, 2014 at 7:00 pm #

    Dave: I don’t get why he was applying for a visa at all.

    Probably because he was confident he’d be turned down, since he’s currently under felony indictment (Can you say “flight risk”, boys and girls?).

    He knows the defense would really put the “cross” in “cross-examination”. As in “crucify”. He can’t afford that. It might even turn up something that could be used against him in his trial in England.

    Now he gets to play the martyr _and_ tell all the conspiracy nuts that this proves “Obama is suppressing the truth”.

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    Bonsall Obot June 13, 2014 at 7:18 pm #

    Ran beat me to it; the last thing Shrimpy wants is to have to actually defend his loony claims.

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    Dave June 13, 2014 at 7:21 pm #

    I would also comment that Doc’s summary of why Shrimpton was turned down mirrors Strunk’s, but the denial letter from the embassy differs in one detail: it says he was denied either because of the reasons Doc states or because his intended activities are not consistent with the visa restrictions.

    I don’t know why the embassy can’t come out and say which is the reason they denied the visa, but in fact they didn’t.

  9. avatar
    Dave June 13, 2014 at 7:29 pm #

    I would add that it’s clear as mud to me whether testifying at a trial is an activity you can do under a B visa. I can’t find any mention at state.gov what the appropriate visa is for this.

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    Dr. Conspiracy June 13, 2014 at 7:45 pm #

    If Shrimpton is being paid for his testimony, then I would call it employment, and that would not be permissible under the Visa Waiver Program.

    Dave: I don’t get why he was applying for a visa at all.

  11. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy June 13, 2014 at 7:57 pm #

    This story has been updated to add:

    It is possible that the US Consul was concerned that Shrimpton had been convicted of sex-related criminal misdemeanor charges which Shrimpton is currently appealing, as well as pending criminal charges that he falsely notified the British government of an impending nuclear terrorist attack in 2012.

  12. avatar
    Comrade Fogovich June 13, 2014 at 8:02 pm #

    Pure silliness. If there’s a problem with the Shrimp Cracker, fuggedaboutit. Strunk should just get Mia Marie Pope to sub in for him. Checkmate! :D

  13. avatar
    Dave June 13, 2014 at 8:04 pm #

    Now that I am reminded of Shrimpton’s criminal charges, I have one more thing to be puzzled about: why does he still have a passport? In the US, I believe it is routine that anyone charged with a felony has their passport pulled, and it seems like such a prudent thing that I’d be surprised if the UK didn’t do the same thing.

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    Arthur June 13, 2014 at 8:19 pm #

    mimi: Strunk sent a plane ticket? Doesn’t he file all these suits In forma pauperis or whatever it’s called?

    And what about that $170,000 sanction?

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/04/strunk-hit-with-staggering-177000-legal-sanction/

  15. avatar
    VeniVidiVici June 13, 2014 at 8:54 pm #

    It appears as though barry has accelerated the implementation of his agenda. I wonder if there is anything motivating him to do so?

    barry knows everything that arpaio knows (maybe), it’s just that he doesn’t know what exactly arpaio knows.

    Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practise to deceive!

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    BillTheCat June 13, 2014 at 9:58 pm #

    VeniVidiVici:
    It appears as though barry has accelerated the implementation of his agenda.I wonder if there is anything motivating him to do so?

    barry knows everything that arpaio knows (maybe), it’s just that he doesn’t know what exactly arpaio knows.

    Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practise to deceive!

    Quite the word salad. Anyone able to translate this into “Sane Human” for me?

  17. avatar
    Arthur June 13, 2014 at 9:59 pm #

    BillTheCat: Quite the word salad. Anyone able to translate this into “Sane Human” for me?

    Sorry, I don’t speak Argle-Bargle.

  18. avatar
    Dave June 13, 2014 at 10:13 pm #

    Bad enough that we have trolls, but now we have parodies of trolls.

  19. avatar
    BillTheCat June 13, 2014 at 10:20 pm #

    Nah, Veni is a true believer… Doesn’t Veni = Martha Trowbridge?

    Still speaks perfect Argle-Bargle, whoever it is.

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    J.D. Sue June 13, 2014 at 10:46 pm #

    BillTheCat: Doesn’t Veni = Martha Trowbridge?


    If VVV is Martha Trowbridge, shouldn’t she post on another thread instead of one about Shrimpton.

    I mean, don’t their theories contradict each other? Shrimpton says he was born in Kenya to BO Sr., and Martha Trowbridge say he was born to Malcolm X.

    Talk about a tangled web…

  21. avatar
    VeniVidiVici June 13, 2014 at 10:48 pm #

    If you really can’t understand what I was intimating in my previous post, then it makes sense that you will not understand what is about to be revealed by arpaio.

    There is no manne so‥blynd as he that will not see, nor so dull as he that wyll not vnderstande.

    That should do it. :)

  22. avatar
    VeniVidiVici June 13, 2014 at 10:49 pm #

    that’s funny! Martha Trowbridge. :)

  23. avatar
    Dave June 13, 2014 at 11:29 pm #

    Come on, putting the “tangled web” cliche in a comment that had nothing to do with lying? Besides which it implies that Obama is new to lying, which is the opposite of what any birther ever said? This isn’t a birther, it’s somebody making fun of birthers.

  24. avatar
    Yoda June 13, 2014 at 11:48 pm #

    I understood Vinny. The President knows every fact that is available for Arpaio to know. He just doesn’t WHICH of the facts available that Arpaio actually knows. It is silly because it doesn’t matter what Arpaio knows because there are no facts that support birtherism.

  25. avatar
    Daniel June 13, 2014 at 11:52 pm #

    VeniVidiVici: then it makes sense that you will not understand what is about to be revealed by arpaio.

    The only thing about to be revealed by Arpiedough is that they can’t reveal anything yet… but if you just wait another six months… and donate, of course…

  26. avatar
    Curious George June 14, 2014 at 12:00 am #

    VVV

    “…..barry knows everything that arpaio knows (maybe), it’s just that he doesn’t know what exactly arpaio knows.”

    Maricopa County Prosecuting Attorney William Montgomery knows exactly what Arpaio knows and Bill Montgomery calls it “speculation” and will not prosecute based on Arpaio and Zullo speculation. Too bad VVV!
    Next!

  27. avatar
    Dave June 14, 2014 at 12:06 am #

    Now VVV is over at BR trolling them too. Nobody seems interested.

    I sometimes wonder if the Poe who came up with Poe’s Law meant it somewhat figuratively, but fact is the current crop of birthers and wingnuts fit it perfectly. You really can’t tell the real ones from the parodies, because there is no limit to the brainless absurdities the real ones will post.

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    Suranis June 14, 2014 at 1:00 am #

    V Vor Vindictive also thinks the president is personally intervening in Shrimp’s visa troubles, as though that’s the only reason in the world a nut and criminal like the Shrimp would be denied entry into a civilized country, and the USA.

    Because Obama has magic eye beams and can make people do anything he wants, apart from congress and the courts and…

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    Notorial Dissent June 14, 2014 at 1:54 am #

    I didn’t know that Shrimpy had a sex related charge in his past, just the attempted bomb hoax they are currently getting ready to try him for. Unless it has changed dramatically the sex charge alone would bar him admittance. The best explanation I’ve seen so far is that they denied him entrance because they weren’t sure he’d leave again, since he has that nasty felony charge hanging over his head back home, which I think makes as much sense as anything. I still don’t understand how he still has a passport to begin with facing a felony charge as he is.

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    Suranis June 14, 2014 at 2:07 am #

    I’ve never heard of a passport bieng revoked for a criminal charge, but I really wouldn’t hear about these things I suppose.

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    Keith June 14, 2014 at 2:49 am #

    Suranis:
    I’ve never heard of a passport bieng revoked for a criminal charge, but I really wouldn’t hear about these things I suppose.

    I don’t think they are are actually revoked. They are just blocked so they can’t get visas and cross borders without notifying the State Department about their plans.

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    MattR June 14, 2014 at 2:53 am #

    Keith: I don’t think they are are actually revoked. They are just blocked so they can’t get visas and cross borders without notifying the State Department about their plans.

    From CNN’s coverage of the George Zimmerman case

    In court documents, State Attorney Angela B. Corey also said that Zimmerman had two passports, and the passport that he surrendered to the court at the April hearing was one that Zimmerman had reported stolen on March 8, 2004. That passport was valid until May 2012, Corey said. Zimmerman was issued a second passport on March 26, 2004, and that one is valid until 2014, she said. The prosecutor asked the court that Zimmerman be ordered to surrender the second passport to authorities. But Lester appeared to accept the explanation from Zimmerman’s lawyer that his client had given him the second passport, and the lawyer simply forgot to hand it over to authorities until Friday.

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    bovril June 14, 2014 at 3:31 am #

    Having read the nonsense around his visa…. Typical run on obfuscation from The Shrimp Cracker.

    He PROBABLY used to have a B1/B2 visa , which for a UK passport holder meant multiple entries with the visa validity good for up to 10 years. Unusual to have as a normal Brit would fill in the paper I-94 on the plane to hand in on arrival, good for 90 days stay. The only good reason for a B1/B2 is if he was expecting to stay in the US for an extended period of time, up to 6 months at a time.

    Along comes the WoT electronic visa ESTA program and what PROBABLY happened is the legacy B1/B2 either expired or was withdrawn and he couldn’t convince the US Immigration to approve a new one so he has to be one of the regular peons with an ESTA.

    Along comes his ongoing fun and games with the law and his details get entered into an “undesirables” list so no ESTA for YOU!!!

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    ArthurWankspittle June 14, 2014 at 3:41 am #

    Keith: I don’t think they are are actually revoked. They are just blocked so they can’t get visas and cross borders without notifying the State Department about their plans.

    As I understand it, they are physically handed over as part of the bail conditions. Shrimpton therefore has three possible reasons not to be able to get to the US:
    No passport to put a visa in
    Previous conviction
    Current charges

    I can’t remember how far back it goes but UK citizens have needed a visa to get into the US for decades. And the rules became tighter after 9/11.

  35. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy June 14, 2014 at 8:01 am #

    According to WorldNetDaily:

    “Shrimpton, meanwhile, is appealing his conviction in a summary court judgment of a criminal misdemeanor charge of having pornographic images on a computer that was seized in the investigation of the national security case. Calling it a “nonsense” charge, he insists there were no pornographic images on his computer and that the images were on a memory stick that didn’t bear his fingerprints or DNA. Law enforcement officials, he said, later admitted they don’t know when the images were placed on the memory stick.”

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/04/obama-eligibility-source-could-embarrass-u-s-u-k/#vLe01h1xKTF6CVT4.99

    Notorial Dissent: I didn’t know that Shrimpy had a sex related charge in his past, just the attempted bomb hoax they are currently getting ready to try him for.

  36. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy June 14, 2014 at 8:12 am #

    It appears as though your comment is so vague that it lacks any information content. See:

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2014/06/well-he-would-wouldnt-he/

    VeniVidiVici: It appears as though barry has accelerated the implementation of his agenda. I wonder if there is anything motivating him to do so?

  37. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy June 14, 2014 at 8:17 am #

    I actually have some Peril Sensitive sunglasses somewhere, but it wasn’t worth the trouble of trying to find them for the story.

  38. avatar
    gorefan June 14, 2014 at 11:12 am #

    VeniVidiVici:
    It appears as though barry has accelerated the implementation of his agenda.I wonder if there is anything motivating him to do so?

    barry knows everything that arpaio knows (maybe), it’s just that he doesn’t know what exactly arpaio knows.

    Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practise to deceive!

    The Phoenix News Times article shows there will not be any universe shattering press conference. I am surprise the Birther Report has done a story on it yet.

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    interestedbystander June 14, 2014 at 11:29 am #

    So they think Obama was born in 1960, or is that typical birther sloppiness?

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    Suranis June 14, 2014 at 11:39 am #

    Well, they know that 1961 date is a lie because it makes it impossible for Obama to have been born anywhere other than Hawaii.

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    Arthur June 14, 2014 at 11:48 am #

    VeniVidiVici: It appears as though barry has accelerated the implementation of his agenda. I wonder if there is anything motivating him to do so?

    Maybe V3 is referencing Glenn Beck’s latest paranoia:

    “Glenn Beck: Obama About To Snap, Put Conservatives Into Internment Camps

    “Glenn Beck warned listeners on his radio show today that too many crises are piling up all at the same time which will cause the press to finally turn on President Obama. In Beck’s fragile mind, that will cause Obama to snap, then of course the President will start rounding up conservatives to put them into camps.”

    http://crooksandliars.com/2014/06/glenn-beck-obama-about-snap-put

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    PennSt93 June 14, 2014 at 12:37 pm #

    Of course no visa….we have a corrupt regime in D.C. including the RINOs. Justice delayed is justice denied.

  43. avatar
    Bonsall Obot June 14, 2014 at 1:31 pm #

    How dare the elected President of the United States implement his agenda? Who does he think he is?

  44. avatar
    Dave June 14, 2014 at 1:31 pm #

    Actually, Obama has already rounded up all the conservatives. They are already in the internment camps.

    And if you aren’t in an internment camp, it’s because you just aren’t conservative enough.

  45. avatar
    BillTheCat June 14, 2014 at 2:26 pm #

    VeniVidiVici:
    that’s funny!Martha Trowbridge.

    Sorry, hard to tell crazy people apart. My bad.

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    DaveH June 14, 2014 at 2:49 pm #

    VeniVidiVici:
    If you really can’t understand what I was intimating in my previous post, then it makes sense that you will not understand what is about to be revealed by arpaio.

    There is no manne so‥blynd as he that will not see, nor so dull as he that wyll not vnderstande.

    That should do it.

    IF you are actually Martha, I have 3 words for you.

    ANY. DAY. NOW.

    It’s like birthers would be the easiest people in the world to scam. Well, they are… All you have to do is tell them next month they’ll get their bridge and when that month comes, it will be next month.

  47. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy June 14, 2014 at 3:26 pm #

    I took it as sloppiness.

    interestedbystander: So they think Obama was born in 1960, or is that typical birther sloppiness?

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    Thinker June 14, 2014 at 3:55 pm #

    Not typical birther slopiness. Typical birther insanity and lies. Shrimpton thinks Obama was born on August 4, 1960 in Mombasa. I don’t recall what his theory about that birth date is, but it came up in his interview with Gillar a few months ago.

    interestedbystander:
    So they think Obama was born in 1960, or is that typical birther sloppiness?

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    J.D. Sue June 14, 2014 at 8:21 pm #

    Thinker: Not typical birther slopiness. Typical birther insanity and lies. Shrimpton thinks Obama was born on August 4, 1960 in Mombasa.

    —–

    In Strunk’s Complaint linked above, paragraph 52 alleges,

    “That based upon the pending testimony of MICHAEL SHRIMPTON, Barack Hussein Obama Junior was born no later than August 4, 1960 not on August 4, 1961 for which the legend was manufactured so that somehow Junior would be calculated as born in Hawaii rather than being brought in as the child of a couple married in February 1961 in Hawaii was created by Madelyn Dunham as the only proof by the newspaper article that was then used by the Hawaii Department of Health to record a birth in Hawaii by the members of the SUBUD cult….”

    Paragraph 53 alleges that a 1961 Customs statistical record shows that one white woman with one one-year-old black baby entered the U.S.A from Africa.

    Of course, Shrimpton’s affidavit doesn’t say all that. But it does say 1960, repeatedly. And it is a sworn affidavit.

    It would be very funny if Shrimpton claims that 1960 is a typo, and thus Strunk’s theory of the case completely falls apart.

  50. avatar
    Rickey June 15, 2014 at 9:14 pm #

    VeniVidiVici:

    Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practise to deceive!

    Speaking of tangled webs, I am a private investigator in New York. I have seen the New York driving record of Bari Shabazz, and he was six inches shorter than Barack Obama. How do you explain that?

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    Reality Check June 15, 2014 at 9:33 pm #

    As I recall this mental midget claimed he subsisted on Social Security with no assets and had a teenage son to raise. Either he was lying about the ticket or he is taking food out of his sons mouth.

    mimi:
    Strunk sent a plane ticket?Doesn’t he file all these suits In forma pauperis or whatever it’s called?

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    RanTalbott June 15, 2014 at 9:44 pm #

    Reality Check: Either he was lying about the ticket or he is taking food out of his sons mouth.

    Or someone else, who wants to see Strunk and/or Shrimpton keep stirring up the mob, paid for it: iirc, Strunk said “I sent”, not “I bought”.

    Besides, maybe the little Strunk is like most American teenagers, and _needs_ to have some food taken out of his mouth to keep him from becoming a diabetic ;-)

  53. avatar
    Thomas Brown June 15, 2014 at 10:48 pm #

    I wish the carping infantile nobodies like Wee Weenie Wanker above and raving dissociative dingleberries like Glenn Pecker would watch the special called The President’s Book of Secrets. It was quite bracing to see how one of BHO’s staff totes the Nuclear Football around next to him at all times.

    President Obama is in the position of bearing the sole responsibility for reacting to a surprise attack, which could be a report of Missiles in the Air. His judgement alone would decide the fate of millions, including those pathetic ingrates.

    And he will be that guy every minute of every day for eight full years.

    And he’s going to crack? Because a gaggle of impotent dimwits criticize him no matter what he does? Or because some thin-skinned used car salesman and a semi-senile pig-faced tin-horn Shurrf claim to be investigating his “crimes?” Or because a self-styled decedent civil rights pretend attorney who has failed at nearly everything she has tried in life is “notifying” the courts that he is committing “treason?”

    Sure. Any day now.

  54. avatar
    Thinker June 15, 2014 at 11:13 pm #

    Thomas Brown—you need to get a blog. Your rants are awesome!

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    Rickey June 15, 2014 at 11:41 pm #

    Reality Check:
    As I recall this mental midget claimed he subsisted on Social Security with no assets and had a teenage son to raise. Either he was lying about the ticket or he is taking food out of his sons mouth.

    He also uses a mail drop address for his voter registration, which is illegal if he actually lives in a different district.

    There is a Christopher R. Strunk who lives in Brooklyn, but he is no teenager – he is 33 years old.

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    The Magic M (not logged in) June 16, 2014 at 11:22 am #

    Thinker: Shrimpton thinks Obama was born on August 4, 1960 in Mombasa.

    I probably asked this before, but why the birther fixation on Mombasa? Their “SAD flew to Kenya highly pregnant” story would be a smidgen less insane if they claimed she gave birth in Nairobi or near Kogelo Village where she allegedly traveled, not on the other side of the country.

    Or is this part of the conspiracy believer canon, “whatever we once believed we never question”? So because someone said “born in Mombasa” at the very beginning, they are stuck with that?

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    katahdin June 16, 2014 at 11:58 am #

    The Magic M (not logged in): I probably asked this before, but why the birther fixation on Mombasa? Their “SAD flew to Kenya highly pregnant” story would be a smidgen less insane if they claimed she gave birth in Nairobi or near Kogelo Village where she allegedly traveled, not on the other side of the country.

    Or is this part of the conspiracy believer canon, “whatever we once believed we never question”? So because someone said “born in Mombasa” at the very beginning, they are stuck with that?

    Mombasa is one the more Muslim areas of Kenya, and birthers want President Obama to be as Muslim as possible.

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    Notorial Dissent June 16, 2014 at 9:47 pm #

    FWIW, my personal opinion is that Mombasa is the only place in Kenya that whoever made up the story to begin with knew of, and it sounds real deepest darkest Africaish, plus I wouldn’t bet on them being able to find Kenya on a map of Africa if pushed.

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    Dr. Conspiracy June 16, 2014 at 10:14 pm #

    That is my opinion. It entered the canon from the testimony of the pseudonymous Rev Kweli Shuhubia presented in the original 2008 Berg lawsuit. In the affidavit he said:

    It is common knowledge throughout the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., the United States Presidential candidate, was born in Mombosa Kenya.

    and

    When Ms. Obama’s grandson attempted to counter his grandmother’s clear responses to the question, verifying the birth of Senator Obama in Kenya, Bishop McRae asked her grandson, how she could be present at Barack Obama’s birth if the Senator was born in Hawaii, but the grandson would not answer the question, instead he repeatedly tried to insert that, “No, No, No. He was born in the United States!” But during the conversation, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama never changed her reply that she was in deed present when Senator Barack Obama was born in Kenya. A copy of the Tape transcript is attached hereto as EXHIBIT “A” . I left Kisumu City and traveled to Mombosa, Kenya. I interviewed personnel at the hospital in which Senator Obama was born in Ken ya. I then had meetings with the Provincial Civil Registrar. I learned there were records of Ann Dunham giving birth to Barack Hussein Obama, III in Mombosa, Kenya on August 4, 1961.

    It became part of the birther canon that the word “Mombasa” could be heard in the Mama Sarah recording, although even the birther transcript of the recording does not include the word from the Kenyan end. Bishop McRae in the US then said in the unedited recording:

    OK. 24 Uh, when I come in December I would like to go by the, the place, the hospital where he is born. Uh, could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?

    To which the Kenyan translator replies: “No he was born in America, not in Mombasa.”

    The Magic M (not logged in): So because someone said “born in Mombasa” at the very beginning, they are stuck with that?

  60. avatar
    The Magic M (not logged in) June 17, 2014 at 3:57 am #

    Thanks. :)

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    Thinker June 17, 2014 at 9:03 am #

    I believe the earliest reference to the Mombasa detail is from conspiracy wingnut “reporter” Wayne Madsen, who wrote about it on June 9, 2008, saying, “GOP dirty tricks operatives dispatched to Kenya to dig up any useful “dirt” on Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama, Jr., and his late Kenyan father Barack Obama, Sr., believe they have found a “smoking gun.” In this case, it is a birth certificate from the Kenyan city of Mombasa registering the birth of Barack Obama, Jr., on August 4, 1961.” The article is no longer online, but here’s a WaybackMachine link:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20080610135505/http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_3349.shtml

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    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater June 17, 2014 at 4:57 pm #

    Barack H. Obama III? It wouldn’t be surprising if it was a joke that someone put up Mombasa to say hey no one can be this stupid to believe this and then they took it up.

  63. avatar
    Jim June 17, 2014 at 5:45 pm #

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater:
    Barack H. Obama III?It wouldn’t be surprising if it was a joke that someone put up Mombasa to say hey no one can be this stupid to believe this and then they took it up.

    We’re talking about people who think an April Fool’s joke is evidence…yeah, they’d take it up. :D

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    J. Edward Tremlett June 17, 2014 at 11:09 pm #

    Some Birther goober sent me the initial news about Shrimpton’s amazing finds, back in Feburary. And you know what? I knew just where to come for info about this… interesting development.

    This guy sounds like the sort of clown these Birthers fall victim too all too often.

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    Thinker June 18, 2014 at 11:50 am #

    Judge Leon dismissed Strunk’s latest pile sua sponte for failure to state a claim upon which relief can be granted and for falling well short of the “simple, concise, and direct” pleadings required in the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. http://www.scribd.com/doc/230267916/Dismissal-Strunk-v-State-Department?in_collection=4552811

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