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Jedi Pauly tricks UK government into admitting Obama ineligibility–or so he says

imageWhenever I travel abroad I like to make up facetious blog article titles about me fleeing the country, or going to investigate the birthers. It’s all in good fun, but a birther apparently has done it in all seriousness.

Paul (“Jedi Pauly”) Guthrie, birther litigant and blogger, has gone to the United Kingdom, as part of a ploy to force the UK courts to rule President Obama ineligible, so says George Miller in an email published at Gerbil Report™.1

imageGuthrie went to the UK and tried to gain political asylum. They accepted his application, processed it, and rejected his claim. He’s in detention pending removal. Guthrie argues that by accepting his application for review, the UK admitted and officially determined that Obama was an illegal president. That’s just a sample of how Guthrie, who now describes himself as a “political prisoner,” spins defeat into victory in his convoluted description3 of his situation–incarcerated and running out of money.

I haven’t figured out why, if Guthrie had a valid U. S. passport, that he is being detained at the Colnbrook Immigration Removal Center unless they just think they already have enough nutty birthers already (what with Michael Shrimpton, and Lord Monckton). More seriously, I think it’s probably because his stated purpose for entering the country, to get UK courts to examine Obama’s eligibility, is not one of those purposes for which a visa is not required (e.g., attending a conference or training, attending a sporting event, an entertainer, a prospective entrepreneur or tourist). Guthrie argues that the UK cannot deport him so long as a possibility exists that the US could be led by an ineligible president—leading to what he describes as a “life sentence” or requiring the UK courts to adjudicate the definition of the term “natural born citizen” in the US Constitution. I think the UK is perfectly capable of getting rid of him without doing that.

In his press release2, Guthrie describes his incarceration as:

  • a war crime
  • a human rights violation

So to help out Guthrie in the way George Miller requests, I am doing what I can to make this issue public and take it viral on the Internet.

Jedi Pauly web sites:


1One interesting feature of this Birther Report article is it’s introduction of a new term for birther that I hadn’t seen before: Obama ineligibility activist. Personally, I think that sounds even more nutty than birther.

2In the press release, Guthrie is described as a professor of political science, but his LinkedIn profile shows only a BS in applied physics and mathematics from Purdue.

3To give another example of creating meaning from thin air by Guthrie, check out this statement from 2011:

The U.S. Constitution is an agreement between the original thirteen sovereign states of the union of states and their creation, the federal government.  The use of the capitalization of the word “citizen,” as in “natural born Citizen” or “Citizen of the United States,” is meant to convey in the Constitution the exclusion of federal citizen “subjects” such as citizens from the federal territories or possessions.

Every noun in the U. S. Constitution is capitalized.

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24 Responses to Jedi Pauly tricks UK government into admitting Obama ineligibility–or so he says

  1. avatar
    Comrade Fogovich October 6, 2014 at 6:43 am #

    Doc’s next post: Jedi Pauly (Paul Guthrie back here on Earth) fled to England and applied for political asylum because Obama was going to murder him for writing a book about his loony birther theories, and the Brits accepted the application for processing, which is an official ruling that President Obama is illegal.

    Then they denied the application and threw him in a prison for illegal immigrants pending deportation back to the U.S.

    But he won! The U.K. ruled that Obama is illegal! Yay!

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    Arthur October 6, 2014 at 7:23 am #

    Comrade Fogovich: Jedi Pauly

    I detect a note of insincerity, Comrade, that suggests your apparent congratulations cloaks a heart of sarcasm. Beware! Recall the warning Our Dear Jedi gave to you nattering nabobs of negativity when he proclaimed,

    “Be very careful how you treat me from now on, as I am very angry and am liable to vent it upon anyone who does not accept the objective truth and facts as are established in law in the U.S. Courts and under the Constitution. Now that the facts have been established and public notice has been given, if you continue to impugn or libel Mr. Guthrie, he will amend his complaint and add you to his 50 million dollar suit and report your seditious criminal Hate Crime activity to the Federal authorities.”

    Tremble and be afraid Mr. Are-You-Laughing-Now.

  3. avatar
    The European October 6, 2014 at 8:20 am #

    That piece at GerbilReport is a “must read”!

    Jedi Pauly has been promoted – to “Professor Paul”, the “Political Scientist” ……

  4. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy October 6, 2014 at 9:19 am #

    How could you POSSIBLY have known?

    Comrade Fogovich: Doc’s next post: Jedi Pauly (Paul Guthrie back here on Earth) fled to England

  5. avatar
    Lupin October 6, 2014 at 9:32 am #

    “Guthrie argues that by accepting his application for review, the UK admitted and officially determined that Obama was an illegal president.”

    That does not make any sense at all.

  6. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy October 6, 2014 at 9:46 am #

    When I visited Canada last week, they asked me questions to qualify my entry. They really wanted to let me in as a tourist and even made up a (correct) explanation as to why someone from South Carolina was driving a car with Canadian plates. “Rental, right?” I think I made his day when I said I didn’t have any weapons or sales samples I would leave in Canada.

    My general experience is that being a “tourist” will get you quickly through immigration (assuming you have the proper documents). “I’m here to force your government to remove President Obama from office” probably gets a very long conversation in a little room.

  7. avatar
    JPotter October 6, 2014 at 9:46 am #

    I continue to wonder why birfer wingnuts want other countries to have say over who is/isn’t a US citizen.

    And then wingnuts howl about the US “giving up” sovereignty by participating in the UN.

    Selective sovereignty. They’ll toss anything and everything out for the sake of expedience.

  8. avatar
    Bonsall Obot October 6, 2014 at 10:08 am #

    This is not the political prisoner you’re looking for.

  9. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG October 6, 2014 at 10:19 am #

    Just when I think that birthers can’t get any more desperate or stupid, I wake up and read something like this.

  10. avatar
    Bob October 6, 2014 at 10:27 am #

    Notice he chose a country with universal healthcare, strict anti-gun laws, and a queen.

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    welsh dragon October 6, 2014 at 10:45 am #

    IANAL but this is what I think happened:

    Jedi Pauli arrives at Heathrow airport (Oct 1st) and immediately asks for political asylum.

    The protocol is that he is shunted off into a room for a “screening interview”.

    The screening officer decides the case is “straightforward” and recommends that rather than be allowed to enter he is put into the Detained Fast Track (DFT) process.

    The results of the screening interview are then forwarded to a central unit ( I forget the name) who quickly accept the screening officer’s recommendation.

    He’s then whisked off to the detention center.

    The following day he gets an “asylum interview” which determines his application and rejects it.

    He then has 2 days to appeal (which I doubt if he’s clear headed enough to do) and any appeal usually takes place within a week.

    At least that’s my understanding of the process. I personally don’t think it’s fair but the High Court recently ruled that it was not unlawful.

    A writ of Habeus Corpus can be sought but the English courts are bit behind the times – they think the application should be filed with a court not just posted on the internet.

  12. avatar
    gorefan October 6, 2014 at 10:52 am #

    But won’t this lead to discovery?

  13. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG October 6, 2014 at 12:13 pm #

    gorefan:
    But won’t this lead to discovery?

    Yes, the discovery that Jedi Pauly is a dumbass. But we already discovered that, so…

  14. avatar
    wrecking ball October 6, 2014 at 12:33 pm #

    “Since Paul’s victory in court last year, he has not been idle. Although some may think that because the judges ruled against him, this means that it was a failed attempt, but nothing could be further from the truth! ”

    …….

  15. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG October 6, 2014 at 12:55 pm #

    wrecking ball:
    “Since Paul’s victory in court last year, he has not been idle.Although some may think that because the judges ruled against him, this means that it was a failed attempt, but nothing could be further from the truth! ”

    …….

    If there was any doubt that birthers were denying reality wholesale…

  16. avatar
    Keith October 6, 2014 at 6:18 pm #

    Bob:
    Notice he chose a country with universal healthcare, strict anti-gun laws, and a queen.

    America’s got hundreds, probably thousands, of queens. What’s notable about that?

  17. avatar
    Curious George October 6, 2014 at 6:34 pm #

    Amazing. Simply amazing.

  18. avatar
    Dave October 6, 2014 at 9:10 pm #

    Dunno about UK but I believe in the US, if you apply for asylum and are denied, you are then summarily deported. It is a sensible policy — otherwise everyone seeking permanent resident status might as well file for asylum on the outside chance it works. Perhaps the UK has a similar policy, and perhaps this is why Guthrie is getting shipped out.

  19. avatar
    Joe Acerbic October 7, 2014 at 1:05 am #

    “Guthrie argues that the UK cannot deport him so long as a possibility exists that the US could be led by an ineligible president”

    Excellent: when the UK deports him, it proves that a possibility does not exist that the US could be led by an ineligible president.

  20. avatar
    The Magic M (not logged in) October 7, 2014 at 4:26 am #

    JPotter: I continue to wonder why birfer wingnuts want other countries to have say over who is/isn’t a US citizen.

    Because they hate the current version of the US (where wimmin and blackety-blacks and non-Chrisshuns have equal rights) so much that they will accept anybody’s help in destroying it, including the devil himself, as long as it promises a return to pre-Civil War days.

  21. avatar
    Kate1230 October 7, 2014 at 4:27 am #

    Only birthers can take 200+ losses in our judicial system and consider it to be a positive result. Come January 20, 2017, birthers will announce that they have removed President Obama from the White House and prevented a lifetime self-appointment.

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: If there was any doubt that birthers were denying reality wholesale…

  22. avatar
    The Magic M October 7, 2014 at 6:58 am #

    Kate1230: Come January 20, 2017, birthers will announce that they have removed President Obama from the White House and prevented a lifetime self-appointment.

    And that “it’s good he served out his term so we can now sue him as a private person for having impersonated a real white President”.

    And when Hillary wins, they will claim they have made sure nobody will vote for a black Kenyan anymore, ever.

  23. avatar
    Dave B. October 7, 2014 at 11:58 am #

    Geez, they’ll let anybody in, won’t they? Oh wait…never mind. God save the Queen.