Main Menu

“Seperating” the men from the birthers

I was pretty young when I a read a work of youth fiction in which one of the characters explained to another a spelling memory trick: “There is ‘a rat’ in ‘separate.’” This was the beginning of my life-long attention to the misspelling of that particular word, and why I noticed it tonight in a comment at US Message Board from someone named Steve_McGarrett. The comment, which I will cite below, was mentioned by Dave B. in a comment here.

Mike Zullo has been fully trained by the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office under the powers granted to Sheriff Arpaio by the Arizona Constitution. He is well qualified and has ALL the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office resouces at his disposal, including their attorneys. Also Arpaio opened up a second criminal investigation a year ago appointing two full time detectives from the department. This is why the posse hasnt asked for donations anymore in many months.The second criminal investigation is what has delayed revealing all of the new posses evidence they collected since the second press conference. Once the 2nd investigation wraps they will hold two seperate conferences announcing their findings.

Misspelling “separate” isn’t the only problem with that post, but I thought it might be useful as an indicator as to whether this Steve McGarrett person is actually Mike Zullo, or some other identifiable birther. The misspelling of “separate” seems to be a Steve McGarrett trait, appearing again from him at US Message Board last April here:

That prompted Arpaio to officially open a new second criminal case indirectly seperate from the birth certificate evidence and he appointed two full time seasoned detectives from the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office to pursue criminal leads across the country working with other law enforcement agencies. Zullo stated the press conference in Phoenix will be a international event that will reveal what they’ve uncovered and Zullo stated it will be ‘Universe Shattering’ that will affect the nation. I’ve been monitoring this case for months and I believe they have uncovered hard copy evidence of Obama’s true birth status and that he went to college as a foreigner and the players who all covered it up.

I used the Google search engine, combining various birther keywords with “seperate,” to see what happened. Here is an interesting result from Birther Report from a commenter named Joe Mannix, who is widely thought once but no longer thought by me to be Mike Zullo:

Mr. Zullo is not a liar. Hawaii had their own seperate code manual prior to becoming a state. Verna K. Lee verified she used those codes. The CCP also has in possession two Hawaiian birth certificates from 1961 that reveal that the term ‘Negro’ was used for black babies instead of the term ‘African’.

Here’s one by Britt Reid last April at City Data (a site where “Joe McGarrett” has also posted):

Good morning ladies and gentlemen, this is Britt Reid of the Surprise TEA Party here in beautiful Sun City West, AZ. Maricopa County Sheriffs Office Cold Case Posse lead investigator Mike Zullo yesterday gave an update on what is going on with their investigation into Obama. It is apparent they are being precise and serious and the ball is fixing to drop on Obama that will shake the nation to its core. They have been working around the clock diligently but what will be revealing is what the seperate new criminal investigation by the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office will produce. Here is the update by patriot Mike Zullo.

“paralegalnm” (Leonard Daneman) had an entry from 2011 over at Apuzzo’s blog:

The Aug-8-1961 registrar date stamp is a completely seperate bit of artwork added in its own layer.

“Michelle” made the error multiple times commenting at the Citizen Wells site:

It has also been brought to our attention Bauer and Pelosi issued 2 seperate sets of Certifications of Nomination-complete language change in one set. No back up documentation provided. The COLB is backed-up by thin air. The way the media reports the issue, they act as if they have seen documentation, which we all know does not exist. They are editorializing when they should be reporting, is someone holding a machine gun to their heads?

Even our own resident birther john got in the act:

It appears that RC did not use “real” date and signature stamps and they essentially were part of the paper. I know that the CCP used a “real” date stamp to make sure that date stamp was seperate independent element and not part of the paper. As for the signature, stamp the neither the CCP or RC had Alvin Onaka’s stamp handy. But in any event, RC’s Onaka signature stamp is only partially lifted where the Obama’s BC, the entire stamp is lifted.

I don’t know that much was discovered in this short investigation. It may well be that similar style and subject matter plus the spelling error leads to a possible association between Steve McGarrett and Britt Reid. And before I close, I should acknowledge that my search found non-birther commenters here who made the same spelling error. 😳

47 Responses to “Seperating” the men from the birthers

  1. avatar
    Smirk4Food November 17, 2014 at 9:37 pm #

    If these comments were posted by the same person, said author is certainly a fan of 70’s cop shows.

    I mean, Steve McGarrett, Joe Mannix, Britt Reid (The Green Hornet)? Really?

  2. avatar
    wrecking ball November 17, 2014 at 9:53 pm #

    Smirk4Food:

    I mean, Steve McGarrett, Joe Mannix, Britt Reid (The Green Hornet)? Really?

    he also did “george lazenby” ( james bond ).

  3. avatar
    Paul November 17, 2014 at 10:21 pm #

    Smirk4Food:
    If these comments were posted by the same person, said author is certainly a fan of 70’s cop shows.

    I mean, Steve McGarrett, Joe Mannix, Britt Reid (The Green Hornet)? Really?

    Ok, now THAT’S damning evidence.

    The misspelling… not so much. Obviously, someone came up with a mnemonic for the correct spelling because so many get it wrong.

  4. avatar
    J.D. Sue November 17, 2014 at 11:12 pm #

    Some people might think that’s enough evidence for a press conference…

  5. avatar
    gorefan November 17, 2014 at 11:33 pm #

    Mike Zullo used the word “separate” in two affidavits. But those could have been autocorrected by the word processing software. When I tried to spell it with erat in this comment IE autocorrected it.

  6. avatar
    Curious George November 17, 2014 at 11:51 pm #

    ’70s cop shows? It sounds like someone has a bad case of the cop wannabes. And it really sounds like our pretend Cold Cut Posse Commandant Zoo-Low. Aren’t those re-runs getting a little stale? Funny, it looks like he purposely avoids “Get Smart!” A goal too far?

  7. avatar
    alg November 18, 2014 at 8:08 am #

    Interesting, but if I were the Maricopa County Prosecutor I’d call it speculation. 🙂

  8. avatar
    RanTalbott November 18, 2014 at 8:40 am #

    A British study reported it’s the “most commonly misspelt word”.

    Of course, you have to take any study from people who think “spelled” is spelled “spelt” with 0.06479891 grammes of salt 😉

  9. avatar
    AGROD November 18, 2014 at 10:21 am #

    The other common theme of course is the promise of earth shattering information which of course will never come. Maybe they should use less dramatic terms such as slightly needle moving information or Pepto- Bismal inducing information.

  10. avatar
    Dave B. November 18, 2014 at 10:31 am #

    Good lord, I read that very same book when I was in the second grade. About a boy being coached for a spelling bee by an old-timer who’d never forgotten how he lost years before. And I thought of exactly the same thing when I saw this “McGarrett” misspell the word. I can’t see the word spelled “seperate” without thinking of that.

  11. avatar
    Northland10 November 18, 2014 at 10:35 am #

    😳 It looks like I made the mistake a few times. I feel better, however, when others who are much better writers than I have made the same error.

    I don’t feel so bad. It appears Kitsap County made the same error:

    1998 March 4 – Case 98-3-00266-8, Kitsap County Superior Court. Divorce and Seperate Maintenance by Cathleen Fitzpatrick against Walter Fitzpatrick.

  12. avatar
    Jim November 18, 2014 at 12:13 pm #

    Mike Zullo- Seperating the birthers from their money since 2011

  13. avatar
    Rickey November 18, 2014 at 1:01 pm #

    Another one which I see frequently is people writing “loose” when they mean “lose.” They probably are all loosers.

  14. avatar
    Bob November 18, 2014 at 1:59 pm #

    Definately!

  15. avatar
    sfjeff November 18, 2014 at 2:15 pm #

    Well Stevie is definitely not John- Stevie is a whole different kind of racist crazy- he posted among other things that ‘negroes’ all want to rape white women.

    The others are more likely- just look for any Birther who is among other things:
    a) a huge fan of Mike Zulo
    b) a fairly open racist
    c) a 9/11 truther
    d) also a two citizen parent Birther who also believes Cruz is not eligible.

  16. avatar
    Keith November 18, 2014 at 3:56 pm #

    Curious George:
    ’70s cop shows? It sounds like someone has a bad case of the cop wannabes.And it really sounds like our pretend Cold Cut Posse Commandant Zoo-Low.Aren’t those re-runs getting a little stale?Funny, it looks like he purposely avoids “Get Smart!” A goal too far?

    I haven’t heard anything from Stu Bailey, have you? Can anybody lend me their comb?

    Oh, you mean the 70’s. Not sure about that since I was there.

    Huh?

  17. avatar
    sfjeff November 18, 2014 at 4:15 pm #

    That would be a heck of a TV show- plucky used car salesman solves crime by holding press conferences where he explains to the audience that he will be revealing the truth soon…..

  18. avatar
    wrecking ball November 18, 2014 at 4:17 pm #

    sfjeff:
    Well Stevie is definitely not John- Stevie is a whole different kind of racist crazy- he posted among other things that ‘negroes’ all want to rape white women.

    The others are more likely- just look for any Birther who is among other things:
    a) a huge fan of Mike Zulo
    b) a fairly open racist
    c) a 9/11 truther
    d) also a two citizen parent Birther who also believes Cruz is not eligible.

    i think “steve mcgarrett” is “joe mannix” but isn’t zullo. here’s some links to threads by “steve” ( under multiple names ) over at city-data so you can see the consistency in his posts.

    “steve mcgarrett”
    http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/1538704-steve-mcgarretts-sheriff-joe-arpaio-det.html

    “britt reid”
    http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/2090817-maricopa-county-sheriffs-office-cold-case.html

    “tea party ted”
    http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/1548823-being-reported-fox-news-barack-obama.html

    “lawyer disciple”
    http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/1584172-cleverly-worded-document-hawaii-never-verified.html

    “jesus chist superstar”
    http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/1659046-white-house-panic-columbia-classmate-speaks.html

    “mr jim robinson”
    http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/1880407-hawaiian-court-certified-document-fraud-expert.html

    “_CARL_”
    http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/1931351-list-town-hall-meetings-members-congress.html

    “old army soldier”
    http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/1813195-sean-hannity-declares-canadian-born-ted.html

  19. avatar
    Curious George November 18, 2014 at 4:19 pm #

    Keith…..,
    “I haven’t heard anything from Stu Bailey, have you? Can anybody lend me their comb?

    Oh, you mean the 70’s. Not sure about that since I was there.”

    “77 Sunset Strip” is pretty close to the seventies I suppose. 🙂

  20. avatar
    Dave B. November 18, 2014 at 4:47 pm #

    Speaking of birthers, misspellings and Leonard Daneman, I kind of got his goat the other day and he called me a “genuine, bone fide IDIOT.” And all I did was ask him what kind of client he had when he tried to be his own lawyer.

  21. avatar
    Judge Mental November 18, 2014 at 4:49 pm #

    Excuse the diversion but have to admit I wouldn’t really find remembering “there’s a rat in separate” any easier than just remembering how to spell ‘separate’. It’s not as if it’s phrase that makes any sense lol.

  22. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy November 18, 2014 at 5:34 pm #

    Is that the one with the African Cymbalist, Junior?

    1958-1964.

    Curious George: “77 Sunset Strip” is pretty close to the seventies I suppose.

  23. avatar
    boysmom4 November 18, 2014 at 5:57 pm #

    I am a frequent poster on the Hannity website under the “One and only” birth certificate thread. Over a year ago, a poster appeared going by the name “Mr. Birth Certificate”.

    He defended Zullo and made many references to the Hayes report. (this was about the time the Reed Hayes report came out). He also seemed to be so knowledgeable about the CCP investigation that I became convinced that it was Mike Zullo. I started calling him Mike and he never corrected me.

    He must have said the wrong thing because he was banned from the forum after posting for about a month.

    Here is a link to one of the exchanges. See for yourself.

    http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?2322571-One-amp-ONLY-Obama-Birth-Certificate-thread/page1090

  24. avatar
    Nancy R Owens November 18, 2014 at 6:06 pm #

    I have never seen this site. Ever. The ultimate ban. Hmm…I think I’ll go give it another go. You never know.

    boysmom4:
    I am a frequent poster on the Hannity website under the “One and only” birth certificate thread.Over a year ago, a poster appeared going by the name “Mr. Birth Certificate”.

    He defended Zullo and made many references to the Hayes report.(this was about the time the Reed Hayes report came out).He also seemed to be so knowledgeable about the CCP investigation that I became convinced that it was Mike Zullo.I started calling him Mike and he never corrected me.

    He must have said the wrong thing because he was banned from the forum after posting for about a month.

    Here is a link to one of the exchanges.See for yourself.

    http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?2322571-One-amp-ONLY-Obama-Birth-Certificate-thread/page1090

  25. avatar
    Dave B. November 18, 2014 at 6:19 pm #

    I reckon you’d have had to read the book in about the second grade to make it stick. I can vouch for Doc on that one.

    Judge Mental:
    Excuse the diversion but have to admit I wouldn’t really find remembering “there’s a rat in separate” any easier than just remembering how to spell ‘separate’. It’s not as if it’s phrase that makes any sense lol.

  26. avatar
    RanTalbott November 18, 2014 at 6:33 pm #

    Judge Mental: It’s not as if it’s phrase that makes any sense lol.

    Indeed. One of the pages a saw when checking the claim about it being “most misspelled” suggested “The two As separate the two Es” as a mnemonic.

  27. avatar
    wrecking ball November 18, 2014 at 6:40 pm #

    boysmom4:
    I am a frequent poster on the Hannity website under the “One and only” birth certificate thread.Over a year ago, a poster appeared going by the name “Mr. Birth Certificate”.

    yep that’s “steve mcgarrett/britt reid”. here’s “mr birth certificate” from your link:

    “… court recognized Hawaii independent forensic handwriting and computer-document expert Reed Hayes …”

    and from “britt reid” on city-data:

    “…court recognized forensic handwriting and computer-generated document specialist from Hawaii by the name of Reed Hays…”

    http://www.city-data.com/forum/33190998-post47.html

  28. avatar
    Reality Check November 18, 2014 at 7:13 pm #

    If this is Zullo he is misstating Hayes area of expertise. Hayes does not claim to be an expert in computer generated documents but only “computer generated handwriting”. There is a difference. Hayes is a handwriting analyst. He would not be allowed as an expert to opine on how a PDF file was created

    wrecking ball: computer-generated document specialist from Hawaii by the name of Reed Hays…

  29. avatar
    wrecking ball November 18, 2014 at 8:02 pm #

    Reality Check:
    If this is Zullo …..

    my guess has been that “mcgarrett/mannix” isn’t zullo but had some kind of very limited contact with zullo at some point ( possibly an email exchange ). he seems confident that he has some inside information but everything he’s shared has either been public knowledge or birther distortion.

  30. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy November 18, 2014 at 8:15 pm #

    I was not aware of the comments made by Mannix at Birther Report being public before, the ones about Reed Hayes analyzing handwriting and not the electronic document artifacts.

    “Of course. Reed is a master at detecting forgeries, especially when people try to mimic other peoples signatures on such things such as checks or birth certificates as in this case. He detects anomalies in forged signatures the average person can’t recognize.He immediately knew something was wrong after looking at the document hence why he called Mike back within 20 minutes.”

    I have a stronger reason to believe that Zullo is Mannix, but I am not at liberty to disclose it. (I hate to say stuff like that.)

    wrecking ball: my guess has been that “mcgarrett/mannix” isn’t zullo but had some kind of very limited contact with zullo at some point ( possibly an email exchange ). he seems confident that he has some inside information but everything he’s shared has either been public knowledge or birther distortion.

  31. avatar
    Curious George November 18, 2014 at 8:49 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy
    November 18, 2014
    Is that the one with the African Cymbalist, Junior?

    1958-1964.

    That’s the one. It’s in the 70s in title only. Kookie (Edward Burns) was the heart throb for all of the female teenie boppers back in the day.

  32. avatar
    CarlOrcas November 18, 2014 at 8:52 pm #

    Curious George: “77 Sunset Strip” is pretty close to the seventies I suppose. 🙂

    This will make you feel old (if you were there to see it when it premiered like I did): The show went on the air in 1958 and ran until 1964.

  33. avatar
    wrecking ball November 18, 2014 at 8:53 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:

    I have a stronger reason to believe that Zullo is Mannix,…..

    here’s a quote from “steve” ( under the name “old army soldier” ) that i grabbed before the mods at city-data deleted it:

    “To me, the 1950’s and especially the 1960’s were glorious years. America was at it’s finest. We had segregation. We had Martin Luther Kink killed by patriot James Earl Ray. My classmates clapped in my school when it was announced over the intercom that JFK was taken out. Unruly American negroes were being sprayed down with water hoses on the streets across America. With all that said, hypothetically, if Obama was president back then, would he have survived being president for the amount of time he has been in office now? I tell you what. Forget that. Would he have even survived as a candidate in the 1960’s the duration to even run for the presidency?”

    here’s the post where i caught “joe mannix” at BR taking credit for a city-data thread started by “_CARL_”:( which is yet another blatant sock-puppet of “steve” ).

    http://www.city-data.com/forum/31017890-post23.html

  34. avatar
    wrecking ball November 18, 2014 at 9:19 pm #

    so the question being…:

    does zullo = mannix = _CARL_ = steve mcgarrett = old army soldier?

  35. avatar
    RanTalbott November 18, 2014 at 9:31 pm #

    wrecking ball: under the name “old army soldier”

    Would that be a “soldier” in the “old” Army of the Confederate States of America?

  36. avatar
    Keith November 18, 2014 at 10:15 pm #

    CarlOrcas: This will make you feel old (if you were there to see it when it premiered like I did): The show went on the air in 1958 and ran until 1964.

    It was the prototype (and by far the best IMO) for several of Warner Bros private eye shows set in ‘exotic’ locales. “Hawaiian Eye”; “Bourbon Street Beat”, “Surfside Six”.

    The address was bogus, all Sunset Boulevard addresses have 4 digits, but Dean Martin’s Nightclub was real.

    Curious George: Kookie (Edward Burns) was the heart throb for all of the female teenie boppers back in the day.

    Kookie, Kookie… Lend me your comb!

  37. avatar
    roxy7655 November 18, 2014 at 10:24 pm #

    Birthers seperating is an improvement. Up to now they’ve been suppurating.

  38. avatar
    Jim November 18, 2014 at 10:42 pm #

    Did you learn that word today or were you waiting for the right opportunity? 😆

  39. avatar
    wrecking ball November 18, 2014 at 11:46 pm #

    wrecking ball:

    does zullo = mannix = _CARL_ = steve mcgarrett = old army soldier?

    frank arduini claimed to know who “steve mcgarrett” is ( and it wasn’t zullo ) so that throws a cog in that lineage.

  40. avatar
    The Magic M (not logged in) November 19, 2014 at 4:31 am #

    I think the misspelling might be a giveaway among normal people, but birthers (and RWNJ’s in general) seem to have a disproportionately high number of bad spellers among them.

    (Personally, I can spell “separate” because I can look to the German “separat” when I’m unsure. I only have to think twice about “definitely” and words with 3 vowels in a row like “ambiguous” or “miscellaneous”.)

  41. avatar
    interestedbystander November 19, 2014 at 7:44 am #

    wrecking ball: frank arduini claimed to know who “steve mcgarrett” is ( and it wasn’t zullo ) so that throws a cog in that lineage.

    I’m having a panic attack at the thought of a world in which I have to choose between the Doc and the Dude on a birther factoid.

  42. avatar
    interestedbystander November 19, 2014 at 7:48 am #

    wrecking ball: here’s a quote from “steve” ( under the name “old army soldier” ) that i grabbed before the mods at city-data deleted it:

    “To me, the 1950’s and especially the 1960’s were glorious years. America was at it’s finest. We had segregation. We had Martin Luther Kink killed by patriot James Earl Ray. My classmates clapped in my school when it was announced over the intercom that JFK was taken out. Unruly American negroes were being sprayed down with water hoses on the streets across America. With all that said, hypothetically, if Obama was president back then, would he have survived being president for the amount of time he has been in office now? I tell you what. Forget that. Would he have even survived as a candidate in the 1960’s the duration to even run for the presidency?”

    here’s the post where i caught “joe mannix” at BR taking credit for a city-data thread started by “_CARL_”:( which is yet another blatant sock-puppet of “steve” ).

    http://www.city-data.com/forum/31017890-post23.html

    Does this narrative fit with Zullo’s background – his age at the time of MLK and JFK’s assasinations etc?

  43. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy November 19, 2014 at 8:45 am #

    Zullo’s not old enough to remember the 1950s. JFK was assassinated in 1963 and for Zullo to have been even in first grade, he would have to be 57 years old today, and I don’t think he is that old.

    I remember comments at the time that some students at my rural Alabama school had clapped when the intercom announcement of JFK’s assassination came, although I don’t recall hearing any myself. I was 13 at the time.

    Joe Mannix at BR said he was originally from New Jersey. Would New Jersey kids have clapped? Kennedy won the 1960 election in New Jersey by a narrow margin.

    interestedbystander: Does this narrative fit with Zullo’s background – his age at the time of MLK and JFK’s assasinations etc?

  44. avatar
    RanTalbott November 19, 2014 at 8:58 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: Zullo’s not old enough to remember the 1950s.

    Most of the people who pine for them aren’t.

  45. avatar
    roxy7655 November 19, 2014 at 9:33 am #

    Jim:
    Did you learn that word today or were you waiting for the right opportunity?

    I learn tons of words from humans that I’ll never need. Like, most of them. Filed next to ‘suppurating’ I have ‘fistula’ and ‘scrofulous.’

    Most unappetizing.

  46. avatar
    wrecking ball November 19, 2014 at 12:29 pm #

    interestedbystander: Does this narrative fit with Zullo’s background ….

    no, nor does it fit with the person arduini believes it is ( he’s in his 40’s and has never been in the military ). i think he just wanted to go on a racist rant and was trying to stay in character with his screen name ( “old army soldier” )

  47. avatar
    wrecking ball November 19, 2014 at 12:34 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I was not aware of the comments made by Mannix at Birther Report being public before, the ones about Reed Hayes analyzing handwriting and not the electronic document artifacts.

    if i remember correctly “steve” had made some comments at city-data that he had been in contact with the CCP .