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Arpaio/Montgomery: Charting the conspiracy theory

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No, Arpaio wasn’t paying Dennis Montgomery to investigate Judge Snow. Arpaio’s attorney ridiculed that accusation. Just didn’t happen…

So what is that chart above from an unsealed exhibit in the Melendres case? There are two earlier version of the chart also. Judge Snow seems to appear several places, including the topmost central position, suggesting that the chart was all about Snow and the bright red central figure of the Department of Justice.

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27 Responses to Arpaio/Montgomery: Charting the conspiracy theory

  1. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy July 17, 2015 at 7:28 pm #

    Is it just me, or does it bother other people that Dennis Montgomery might have metadata about domestic phone calls he got from the government?

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    bob July 17, 2015 at 7:38 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Is it just me, or does it bother other people that Dennis Montgomery might have metadata about domestic phone calls he got from the government?

    In due course, it’ll likely bother the government.

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    Curious George July 17, 2015 at 9:30 pm #

    Wow, wow, wow! It’s the new Zullo, Montgomery, Arpaio game board. I get the race car, and Arpaio doesn’t get the “Get out of Jail FREE card.” Any bets about the dice being loaded?

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    alg July 17, 2015 at 10:05 pm #

    I am really looking forward to when the Court explores the intent behind making up this chart. There is no other way to explain it other than it was intended to concoct a conspiracy between the DOJ and Judge Snow in order to discredit the Court.

    I love the smell of “obstruction of justice” in the morning.

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    Dr. Conspiracy July 17, 2015 at 10:58 pm #

    The DOJ is already asking for copies of the material.

    What puzzles me is that Montgomery was producing all these detailed tables of alleged phone calls between Judge Snow and the DOJ; however, when the MCSO side was characterizing the 50 or 60 hard drives full of data, there is no mention of phone metadata. If Montgomery has this data, perhaps he hasn’t turned it over to Arpaio except for the reports produced about Judge Snow, the DOJ and other selected targets.

    In the alternative, all of the charts and tables could have been what the MCSO characterized as “fabricated” and Montgomery never had any phone metadata. That could explain the wrong phone number for the court.

    bob: In due course, it’ll likely bother the government.

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    Notorial Dissent July 17, 2015 at 11:36 pm #

    I am coming to the conclusion that ANYTHING that Montgomery claims is likely to positively to be a lie. I think he sold MCSO the equivalent of a bunch of cut up phone books on those 50 hard drives, which wouldn’t surprise me that he bought as reclaimed junk and sold as brand new. I have yet to hear how much was actually on them so have no real way of even making a guess there. I also seriously doubt that anything else he has claimed is true, and I question the claim that the NSA/CIA/assorted alphabet agency would let him anywhere near real data. Besides, I thought he was supposed to be getting this stuff off the internet and out of emails, the story keeps changing.

    The only truth, I think, in any of this, is that Montgomery took the alphabet boys and the MCSO for a big chunk of change, and for the most part got clear away with it. I do think Montgomery has committed all kinds of fraud all over the place, and it is just a question as to whether he is finally going to pay for it or not.

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    J.D. Sue July 18, 2015 at 2:24 am #

    I think Montgomery knew he would have to move out of the house (that is, Flynn’s house that was in foreclosure). So, he figured why not just have some keystone cops drive up to Seattle and haul away some of his junk–including the hard drives full of the Al Jazeera broadcasts he used to con the Bush Administration. I’d bet he’s living with Klayman and Moseley now.

    I don’t think there is any real data underlying his reports.

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    Lupin July 18, 2015 at 3:22 am #

    The biggest the lie, the more likely gullible fools like Zullo were to believe it. Goebbels’ technique

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    RanTalbott July 18, 2015 at 9:05 am #

    J.D. Sue: So, he figured why not just have some keystone cops drive up to Seattle and haul away some of his junk–including the hard drives full of the Al Jazeera broadcasts he used to con the Bush Administration.

    I like that image 😉

    There’s something a little bothersome about all those drives, though. They were supposed to contain the “whistle” that Monkey* was (or, allegedly, is) going to blow.

    Which means that they absolutely cannot be the only copy. I don’t know whether it’s even possible to buy new 40G drives anymore. If you can, the price of each is bound to be close to a 1TB, maybe even a 2TB.

    For far less than the cost of the road trip, they could’ve had him buy a single big drive, copy the data to it, and overnight it to Phoenix.

    Surely even Zullo isn’t technologically-illiterate enough to not know that.

    So, why so many drives?

    It does support the theory that he was selling them the proverbial shredded phone books: having so many to go through would slow down the uncovering of the con.

    It also suggests the possibility that someone wanted an excuse to take a Sheriffmobile on vacation.

    Someone should look into whether that “transport mission” included a couple of nights in Vegas at taxpayer expense,

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    Curious George July 18, 2015 at 9:50 am #

    Ran Talbott,

    “It also suggests the possibility that someone wanted an excuse to take a Sheriffmobile on vacation.”

    Kommandant Zooollow just loves authentic Italian food. The long drive works up an appetite.

    http://locations.maggianos.com/us/washington/bellevue/lincoln-square/

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    Notorial Dissent July 18, 2015 at 10:02 am #

    Actually if you know the right recyclers, you can find all the 40 M hard drives you want, and I would be willing to be that Zullo and company wouldn’t know a new drive from an old one. If it had some blinking lights on it they would go “ooohh ahh neat pretty” and buy it hook line and sinker. If Montgomery had had anything real he could have put it on a 1 or 2 T HD and been done with it, and it wouldn’t have cost them more than a couple hundred dollars at most, but he was trying to sell a con, not real activity, so the more antique hard drives the better. I’m amazed they could find a computer to run them since they were probably formatted in some equally antique format. I still think it was all a con from start to end.

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    Jim July 18, 2015 at 1:05 pm #

    Notorial Dissent:
    I still think it was all a con from start to end.

    Isn’t it great! The con man got conned!!! Wonder when Zullo’s going to write a book about that? hehehe

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    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater July 18, 2015 at 1:18 pm #

    RanTalbott: It does support the theory that he was selling them the proverbial shredded phone books: having so many to go through would slow down the uncovering of the con.

    Its like the bag switch in the Big Lebowski where Walter puts his dirty laundry in the bag.

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    Pete July 18, 2015 at 2:36 pm #

    alg:
    I am really looking forward to when the Court explores the intent behind making up this chart.There is no other way to explain it other than it was intended to concoct a conspiracy between the DOJ and Judge Snow in order to discredit the Court.

    I love the smell of “obstruction of justice” in the morning.

    I was just thinking before I popped over here, if you’re on trial for (admitted) contempt of court, and then you’re caught hiring a con man to try and dig up dirt on the judge, isn’t that like, double contempt of court or something?

    Contemptuous contempt of court?

    Or should we say, perhaps, criminal contempt of court?

  15. avatar
    Keith July 18, 2015 at 9:12 pm #

    Notorial Dissent: Actually if you know the right recyclers, you can find all the 40 M hard drives you want

    I Can get you a toe…

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    dr. kenneth noisewater July 20, 2015 at 7:33 am #

    Pete: I was just thinking before I popped over here, if you’re on trial for (admitted) contempt of court, and then you’re caught hiring a con man to try and dig up dirt on the judge, isn’t that like, double contempt of court or something?

    Contemptuous contempt of court?

    Or should we say, perhaps, criminal contempt of court?

    Or just being an all around pos

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG July 20, 2015 at 3:32 pm #

    Keith: I Can get you a toe…

    For some reason that reminded me of the jingle of a local towing service, that starts with “When you’re afoot, and you need a tow…”

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    Arthur B. July 20, 2015 at 3:42 pm #

    Stephen Lemons tweets:

    @realsheriffjoe shot down by Judge Snow on another request for stay in 2days hearing. Snow will allow DOJ to review Dennis Montgomery docs

    @realsheriffjoe ‘s pal Larry Klayman allowed to speak briefly, but was not allowed to address pro hac vice application

    @realsheriffjoe ‘s next status hearing before Snow is July 31

    (https://twitter.com/stephenlemons)

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    Arthur B. July 20, 2015 at 4:54 pm #

    The AP, per the S.F. Chronicle, says:

    “The hearings are set to resume on Sept. 22 through 25 and Sept. 29 through Oct. 2.”

    More at the link:

    http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Arpaio-due-in-court-as-contempt-case-against-him-6394277.php

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    bob July 20, 2015 at 8:48 pm #

    Phoenix New Times: Snow Allows DOJ to Review Montgomery Docs, Denies Stay Request, Sets Dates for Further Contempt Hearings.

    Klayman was at the hearing, and briefly was allowed to speak to request that the court not turn over “the Montgomery material” to the federal government. The request was denied.

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    gorefan July 20, 2015 at 9:10 pm #

    bob: Klayman was at the hearing

    Interesting.

    “The judge also noted that Klayman may be a witness in the contempt case, given that he was involved in email communications with Zullo and MCSO detective Brian Mackiewicz, the lead detective in the Seattle operation.”

    Judge Snow turned the whole “you might have to testify” thing around on Klayman.

    And this makes it more lokely Zullo may have to testify.

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG July 22, 2015 at 3:47 pm #

    gorefan: And this makes it more lokely Zullo may have to testify.

    I for one would love to see him squirm on the stand. He’d have nothing to hide behind. Unless I’m mistaken, he couldn’t plead the fifth could he?

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    Jim July 22, 2015 at 3:55 pm #

    Hey Mike! (We know you read here) You might want to have your attorney discus a plea bargain for your testimony…conspiracy to defraud a federal judge is a felony and could get you put away for quite a few years, especially if the DOJ finds out you’ve been representing yourself as a law enforcement officer too. You might want to consider making a deal now, while you can. 😀

    Just a little friendly advice.

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    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater July 22, 2015 at 4:11 pm #

    Jim:
    Hey Mike!(We know you read here)You might want to have your attorney discus a plea bargain for your testimony…conspiracy to defraud a federal judge is a felony and could get you put away for quite a few years, especially if the DOJ finds out you’ve been representing yourself as a law enforcement officer too.You might want to consider making a deal now, while you can.

    Just a little friendly advice.

    But hey even if he was in jail I’m sure he would claim the investigation is ongoing.

  25. avatar
    Jim July 22, 2015 at 4:43 pm #

    With “Cell-Shattering” evidence.

  26. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy July 22, 2015 at 6:45 pm #

    We do?

    Jim: Hey Mike! (We know you read here)

  27. avatar
    Notorial Dissent July 23, 2015 at 2:58 am #

    And let’s not forget how well ex-cops, even fake ex-cops are LOVED in prison. Just think of all the new investimigating he’ll have to look forward to. Maybe he and Giddyup can share a cell, ya know, be bunkies. Just warms the cockles of my heart.