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Hundreds of thousands to storm Washington tomorrow: may oust Obama

My quote of the day yesterday was:

I think Trump may topple Obama on Wednesday like the French Revolution took down the French king that day.

— Geir Smith
— Comment at Birther Report

Today he says:

Dr Obot’s being crushed by Trump.

Trump’s swamping Washington. Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Glenn Beck are all joining him there.

The Obots are gone now: it’s over for them. They’re expecting hundreds of thousands at the Capitol Rally tomorrow at 1 PM on the West Lawn of the US Capitol. Hurry up to spread this or go there.

The event is the “Stop the Iran Nuclear Deal” rally. It’s a Tea Party thing. I heard that foreign policy expert Sarah Palin will be there. The birther contingent will be led by Donald Trump. Other notables will be Steve King, Glenn Beck, and the Canadian born Ted Cruz.

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We’ll just have to see how many show up. I think, however, that Obama will still be president on Thursday.

Update:

ABC News numbered the crowd in the “hundreds.”

108 Responses to Hundreds of thousands to storm Washington tomorrow: may oust Obama

  1. avatar
    bovril September 8, 2015 at 9:58 am #

    Considering the ‘deal’ is already done and dusted and even Donny Combover has accepted it can’t just be ignored…(but he’ll make them dorty Ayrabs cry with his magical negotiating skills)… not really seeing what this is expected to accomplish

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    Lupin September 8, 2015 at 10:26 am #

    Lots of titty whiny crybabies.

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    The Magic M (not logged in) September 8, 2015 at 10:33 am #

    Maybe KKKlayman will be there for another performance of “put the Qu’ran down and your hands up”?

    Maybe in rap form?
    This is Larry, b*tch
    Got enough of this clown
    Put your hands up, snitch
    And the Qu’ran down
    Donald Trump’s a birther
    Michelle drops her burqa
    Barack’s face turning turquois
    Make you great again, Murica!

    MC Larry K-K-Klayman in da house y’all!
    Lemme see those Confederate flags in the ayer!
    Wassup my crackaaaaaas!

  4. avatar
    Lupin September 8, 2015 at 10:36 am #

    “I think Trump may topple Obama on Wednesday like the French Revolution took down the French king that day.”

    Trust the Gerbils to not get anything right, ever.

    Depending on how you wish to look at the fall of the French Monarchy:

    — 14 July 1789 – Fall of the Bastille – Tuesday

    — 5 October 1789 – King Louis XVI dragged from Versailles to Paris by the mob – Monday

    — 21 June 1791 & 4 July 1791 – Louis XVI’s flight to Varennes & Recaptured – Tuesday & Monday

    — 10 August 1792 – Abolition of the monarchy – Friday

    — 21 January 1793 – Execution of Louis XVI – Monday

    Nary a Wednesday in sight.

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    Slartibartfast September 8, 2015 at 12:51 pm #

    The only thing any Teabagger event is destined to accomplish is to remind the rest of us:

    “Here be morans”

    I’ve heard tell that amongst the birthers having plans and/or goals (that don’t involve the frogmarching of usurpers, anyway) is a surefire way to get you drummed out of the movement.

    bovril:
    Considering the ‘deal’ is already done and dusted and even Donny Combover has accepted it can’t just be ignored…(but he’ll make them dorty Ayrabs cry with his magical negotiating skills)… not really seeing what this is expected to accomplish

  6. avatar
    Pete September 8, 2015 at 1:20 pm #

    Oh, no!!!!!!

    Well we all knew it was only a matter of time before Trump brought him down. I kept telling you guys we needed a better forger, but no one would listen.

    Does anyone have an idea how long it will be before the LEOs come for us?

    I’ll be getting my cash out of the bank today and tomorrow. I know I can make it to the Canadian border and should be able to get across as a tourist.

    Do you think they’ll grant us asylum?

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    The Magic M (not logged in) September 8, 2015 at 1:28 pm #

    Pete: Does anyone have an idea how long it will be before the LEOs come for us?

    A Leo once came for me, but he went down like the Virgo and the Capricorn before him. 😉

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    bgansel9 September 8, 2015 at 2:21 pm #

    Pete: I’ll be getting my cash out of the bank today and tomorrow. I know I can make it to the Canadian border and should be able to get across as a tourist.

    Be sure to ask for gold bars. We wouldn’t want to see you get ripped off with fiat money. 😛

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    roadburner September 8, 2015 at 3:07 pm #

    last time i looked, at least one comment was getting the excuses ready in case of poor attendence `it’s a working day, so some might not be able to come’

    as it’s a runup to an election and nasty iranian moooslims are involved, i’ll put my money on 5000 attending, but not much more

    anyone want to start a sweep on how many confederate flags are waved?

  10. avatar
    3Fiddy5 September 8, 2015 at 3:07 pm #

    Birther Report’s looking pretty sparse these days. I guess they shouldn’t have banned so many opposing voices (like me).

  11. avatar
    Dave B. September 8, 2015 at 3:12 pm #

    Now see here, my good man– it’s already been established that merely being a native French speaker, well-versed in a most relevant topic, gives you absolutely no authority on the interpretation of Birther French. Why should being a well-educated Frenchman give you any authority on the history of Birther France? In Birther France, everything happened on Wednesday. A birther has so proclaimed. No other authority is necessary.

    Lupin:
    “I think Trump may topple Obama on Wednesday like the French Revolution took down the French king that day.”

    Trust the Gerbils to not get anything right, ever.

    Depending on how you wish to look at the fall of the French Monarchy:

    — 14 July 1789 – Fall of the Bastille – Tuesday

    — 5 October 1789 – King Louis XVI dragged from Versailles to Paris by the mob – Monday

    — 21 June 1791 & 4 July 1791 – Louis XVI’s flight to Varennes & Recaptured – Tuesday & Monday

    — 10 August 1792 – Abolition of the monarchy – Friday

    — 21 January 1793 – Execution of Louis XVI – Monday

    Nary a Wednesday in sight.

  12. avatar
    Nancy R Owens September 8, 2015 at 4:37 pm #

    And, me.

    3Fiddy5:
    Birther Report’s looking pretty sparse these days.I guess they shouldn’t have banned so many opposing voices (like me).

  13. avatar
    Curious George September 8, 2015 at 5:40 pm #

    Pete,
    “Does anyone have an idea how long it will be before the LEOs come for us?”

    How will we get our checks?

  14. avatar
    Slartibartfast September 8, 2015 at 6:32 pm #

    No, Nancy. Banning you is simply reasonable policy. Even the people who think Arpaio and Zullo are going to hold an “Earth shattering” press conference any day now think you’re crazy. They’re probably still sending money to Orly Taitz and they think that being associated with YOU makes them look bad.

    Think about that.

    Nancy R Owens:
    And, me.

    [Original comment: And, me, the forger.]

  15. avatar
    Pete September 8, 2015 at 7:30 pm #

    Hi, Nancy. Have you taken any of my advice on the hairstyle?

  16. avatar
    Pete September 8, 2015 at 7:37 pm #

    Curious George: How will we get our checks?

    That’s my biggest concern. What to do for income once this sweet Obot gig dries up?

    I was talking last week with the Chinese but it’s hard to see them coming through with a solid offer once I’m persona non grata on US soil.

  17. avatar
    Pete September 8, 2015 at 7:54 pm #

    [disclaimer for the clueless: the above comments are satire.]

  18. avatar
    Nancy R Owens September 8, 2015 at 9:18 pm #

    No, I’ve been writing while staying in my pajama bottoms and T-shirt. As a former University of Florida student of Creative Writing, I always dreamed of doing this. But, busy with kids, never thought it would actually happen.

    Feel free to critique my punctuation and grammar errors because it’s something upon which I need to focus. Commas have always been a major pain for me to understand.

    Pete:
    Hi, Nancy. Have you taken any of my advice on the hairstyle?

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    Curious George September 8, 2015 at 9:48 pm #

    Pete
    September 8, 2015

    [disclaimer for the clueless: the above comments are satire.]

    Well that includes the entire Birther universe.

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    Keith September 8, 2015 at 10:21 pm #

    Curious George:
    Pete,
    “Does anyone have an idea how long it will be before the LEOs come for us?”

    How will we get our checks?

    That is a worry. Have you been getting paid properly and on time? I’ve only gotten half what is owed so far. Think we could run up a class action against TPTB?

  21. avatar
    RanTalbott September 8, 2015 at 10:40 pm #

    roadburner: as it’s a runup to an election and nasty iranian moooslims are involved, i’ll put my money on 5000 attending, but not much more

    With Trump there, and the 1PM start time, I can see them doubling that for a little while, as the curious take a late/extended lunch break. But it would be surprising if they managed to hold even 5000 for the whole event. Especially if that 15% chance of rain materializes.

    The Democrats’ announcement that they can make a Senate filibuster hold is likely to thin the crowd somewhat, too.

    But, even in the worst case, they’ll easily beat out Klayman 🙂

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    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater September 8, 2015 at 11:23 pm #

    Nancy R Owens: Feel free to critique my punctuation and grammar errors because it’s something upon which I need to focus. Commas have always been a major pain for me to understand

    Nancy I was disappointed when I got through the season 1 narcos series on Netflix and you didn’t make an appearance

  23. avatar
    Nancy R Owens September 9, 2015 at 8:34 am #

    Let’s see.

    Bill Clinton claims to be the one in charge when Pablo Escobar was murdered in 1993. He lied. He still looks like a hero because the truth isn’t out there in full view…yet. So, Clinton still looks like a hero which he’s not. Who, in their right mind, disarms military bases?

    Pablo was murdered Oct 2, 1990 in Melbourne Beach, Florida.

    It’s a matter of perspective. The Clintons had their chance to take down Pablo,who was openly engaged in a “Kill American Gringos For The Hispanic New World Order” agenda in 1983. They didn’t. Most likely for the cocaine gold. You say “narc.” I say, “Let’s give credit where credit is due.”

    Credit being the key word here.

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: Nancy I was disappointed when I got through the season 1 narcos series on Netflix and you didn’t make an appearance

  24. avatar
    Dave September 9, 2015 at 9:13 am #

    I’m a little puzzled about this Tea Party Patriots rally. Their website lists 37 speakers, including pretty much all the heros of the wingnuts. But I can find no effort to organize people to show up. Is the audience going to be just congressional staffers?

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    Kate September 9, 2015 at 11:51 am #

    Nancy R Owens:
    Let’s see.

    Bill Clinton claims to be the one in charge when Pablo Escobar was murdered in 1993. He lied. He still looks like a hero because the truth isn’t out there in full view…yet. So, Clinton still looks like a hero which he’s not. Who, in their right mind, disarms military bases?

    Pablo was murdered Oct 2, 1990 in Melbourne Beach, Florida.

    It’s a matter of perspective. The Clintons had their chance to take down Pablo,who was openly engaged in a “Kill American Gringos For The Hispanic New World Order” agenda in 1983. They didn’t. Most likely for the cocaine gold. You say “narc.” I say, “Let’s give credit where credit is due.”

    Credit being the key word here.

    Clinton didn’t disarm military bases, GHWB did. They were not completely disarmed, either. You really should get away from the nutjob sites. They don’t care about the truth, but then again, neither do you. Clinton never said he killed Escobar. He was killed in Colombia in 1993. It would have been of zero benefit for Clinton to claim he had anything to do with it as it was AFTER he was elected. You’re also of the belief that there was a requirement that our Presidents had to have been in the military at some point in our history. This has never been true. Making things up as you go doesn’t add to your credibility, if anything, it further detracts from it. http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/baseguns.asp

  26. avatar
    Nancy R Owens September 9, 2015 at 12:07 pm #

    How did a serial rapist like Bill Clinton make it into office? Pablo was murdered in 1990 just 8 weeks after Alachua County, where the University of Florida is located, announced their “Gainesville Slayings.” Were they connected to Pablo Escobar? Absolutely.

    Kate: Clinton didn’t disarm military bases, GHWB did.They were not completely disarmed, either.You really should get away from the nutjob sites.They don’t care about the truth, but then again, neither do you.Clinton never said he killed Escobar.He was killed in Colombia in 1993.It would have been of zero benefit for Clinton to claim he had anything to do with it as it was AFTER he was elected. You’re also of the belief that there was a requirement that our Presidents had to have been in the military at some point in our history.This has never been true.Making things up as you go doesn’t add to your credibility, if anything, it further detracts from it. http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/baseguns.asp

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    Slartibartfast September 9, 2015 at 12:20 pm #

    This is just sad. Nancy, seek professional help. Please.

    Nancy R Owens:
    How did a serial rapist like Bill Clinton make it into office? Pablo was murdered in 1990 just 8 weeks after Alachua County, where the University of Florida is located, announced their “Gainesville Slayings.” Were they connected to Pablo Escobar? Absolutely.

  28. avatar
    Crustacean September 9, 2015 at 12:50 pm #

    Just remember RWNJ Grammar Rule #45: one comma is good, but a whole bunch of commas in a row really get the reader’s attention.

    Oh, and don’t forget Rule #37a: the word “lose” is spelled with two o’s. The liberal media want everyone to believe there’s only one, but a good RWNJ knows better.

    Nancy R Owens: Commas have always been a major pain for me to understand.

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    rroadburner September 9, 2015 at 1:04 pm #

    had a look at the live feed, and the perspective isn’t good for seeing how many attended.

    maybe they’re a bit embarrased about the numbers, because if it was a big crowd, i’d sure as hell be panning over them.

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    The Magic M (not logged in) September 9, 2015 at 1:50 pm #

    Dave: But I can find no effort to organize people to show up.

    Why would they bother? RW’s are always “let’s you go/fight/die, I can’t”.
    I fondly remember how even the organizers of most RWNJ events couldn’t be arsed to show up. The whole “I had to work and didn’t find a hotel room” drama somehow betrays their “if we don’t act now, we’ll all be holocausted tomorrow” claims.

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    The Magic M (not logged in) September 9, 2015 at 1:58 pm #

    Live stream shows about 100-150 people attending, if I’m generous. About half of them are cheering on cue. So again, a big pile of nothing.

    BTW I noticed again from the current speaker, some Nancy Whatshername, how RW’s are always “I support Israel” but never “I support the people of Israel” or “I support the Jews”. Gosh, one would almost believe they only worry about the country on the map to be still around to be destroyed in their end times fantasy, not about the people who live in it. (WND is even celebrating Jews in Israel converting to Christianity.)

  32. avatar
    Nancy R Owens September 9, 2015 at 2:51 pm #

    *smile*

    Thanks. Lay, lay, lie, ugh. Lose, loose, another ugh. My kids old third grade Abeka book would be useful right about now. I was raised in the deep south where everybody knows how to spell spittoon and Budweiser. But, not much else.

    Crustacean:
    Just remember RWNJ Grammar Rule #45: one comma is good, but a whole bunch of commas in a row really get the reader’s attention.

    Oh, and don’t forget Rule #37a: the word “lose” is spelled with two o’s.The liberal media want everyone to believe there’s only one, but a good RWNJ knows better.

  33. avatar
    Curious George September 9, 2015 at 3:05 pm #

    Pretty small turnout. But better than a Larry Klayman get together, by maybe 125 people.

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    Crustacean September 9, 2015 at 3:20 pm #

    My pleasure, Nancy! I make plenty of grammatical errors myself, but I like to help where I can.

    Nancy R Owens: But, not much else.

    Now, see, that phrase above is a good example for application of RWNJ Rule #45. Either no comma should go after the word “But,” or you’ll want at least 15 or 20 commas. A single comma there is incorrect.

  35. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 9, 2015 at 3:52 pm #

    “The rally, organized by the Tea Party Patriots, including Concerned Women for America, attracted hundreds outside the west lawn of the U.S. Capitol despite the hot weather.”

    ABC News

    ROFL

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    Crustacean September 9, 2015 at 4:36 pm #

    Well that’s it, I suppose: The Big One. American Revolution 2.0 has officially begun!

    I mean, HUNDREDS of people! Be still, my heart. Soon the USA shall be replaced by New Merka, and we will all be proud New Merkins…

    Dr. Conspiracy: “The rally, organized by the Tea Party Patriots, including Concerned Women for America, attracted hundreds outside the west lawn of the U.S. Capitol despite the hot weather.”
    ABC News
    ROFL

  37. avatar
    Pete September 9, 2015 at 4:46 pm #

    Has Trump ousted Obama yet?

    I’m just north of Plattsburgh, about 54 miles south of Montreal. Drove all night. Stopping for a Red Bull.

  38. avatar
    Pete September 9, 2015 at 4:49 pm #

    [Of course I said all that just as a red herring. I’m really crossing over through Buffalo.]

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    john September 9, 2015 at 4:51 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    “The rally, organized by the Tea Party Patriots, including Concerned Women for America, attracted hundreds outside the west lawn of the U.S. Capitol despite the hot weather.”

    ABC News

    ROFL

    News outlets are reporting several hundred. Good for Trump and Cruz. The Deal is the crummiest deal in creation. We don’t get out hostages back and Iran still has the ability to create nuclear weapons. (although the deal makes it harder) If Trump gets in, lets hope he kills the deal 5 minutes after assuming office. Reimpose sanctions get our prisoners back. If Iran refuses, then we bomb.

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG September 9, 2015 at 5:17 pm #

    john: If Iran refuses, then we bomb.

    What is it with you wanting to kill brown people by the hundreds of thousands? Sometimes, I wish that Obama was half the tyrant you think he is, then it would be literally open season on filth like you!

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    Rickey September 9, 2015 at 5:29 pm #

    The Magic M (not logged in):
    Live stream shows about 100-150 people attending, if I’m generous. About half of them are cheering on cue. So again, a big pile of nothing.

    Say what? No frogmarching? What a letdown.

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG September 9, 2015 at 5:32 pm #

    Rickey: Say what? No frogmarching? What a letdown.

    It amazes me that a hundred or so people would take that much time out of their day, just to throw a tantrum that will have zero effect on the outcome.

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    Rickey September 9, 2015 at 5:38 pm #

    john: News outlets are reporting several hundred.Good for Trump and Cruz.The Deal is the crummiest deal in creation.We don’t get out hostages back and Iran still has the ability to create nuclear weapons. (although the deal makes it harder)If Trump gets in, lets hope he kills the deal 5 minutes after assuming office.Reimpose sanctions get our prisoners back.If Iran refuses, then we bomb.

    How are you going to bomb Iran without killing the prisoners you profess to be so concerned about?

    Apparently you know nothing about the iran deal other than what you have read on WND. Reimposing sanctions would be meaningless, because every other country in the world has ended sanctions and will not reimpose them unless there is evidence that Iran is violating the agreement.

    By the way, Colin Powell came out in favor of the Iran deal the other day.

  44. avatar
    Dave B. September 9, 2015 at 6:45 pm #

    Beneath contempt, as usual. Sure is easy to sit safe at home and call for somebody else to shed somebody else’s blood, isn’t it?

    john: News outlets are reporting several hundred.Good for Trump and Cruz.The Deal is the crummiest deal in creation.We don’t get out hostages back and Iran still has the ability to create nuclear weapons. (although the deal makes it harder)If Trump gets in, lets hope he kills the deal 5 minutes after assuming office.Reimpose sanctions get our prisoners back.If Iran refuses, then we bomb.

  45. avatar
    Voice of Reason September 9, 2015 at 7:44 pm #

    Now that Obama is gone, who is in charge? I assume they took Biden down at the same time. So Boehner is moving his stuff into the White House.

  46. avatar
    Northland10 September 9, 2015 at 8:48 pm #

    john: News outlets are reporting several hundred.Good for Trump and Cruz.The Deal is the crummiest deal in creation.We don’t get out hostages back and Iran still has the ability to create nuclear weapons. (although the deal makes it harder)If Trump gets in, lets hope he kills the deal 5 minutes after assuming office.Reimpose sanctions get our prisoners back.If Iran refuses, then we bomb.

    Reagan’s method was to sell weapons to Iran.

  47. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 9, 2015 at 10:04 pm #

    I was just listening to a clip from Trump repeating over and over that we’re being governed by stupid people, but you know, I have never, ever, heard Donald Trump say anything remotely approaching intelligent, and indeed never heard him say anything to suggest he knows anything about the government or its policies. I don’t even know if he knows or cares what’s in the Iran deal. There are intelligent people on both sides of the Iran deal question, but I don’t Donald Trump is one of them.

    john: he Deal is the crummiest deal in creation.

  48. avatar
    Dave September 9, 2015 at 10:10 pm #

    Although I’m used to wingnut events attracting a microscopic crowd, this one really stands out. Donald Trump, and Ted Cruz, and Glenn Beck, and Sarah Palin — and nobody shows up.

  49. avatar
    Kate September 9, 2015 at 11:07 pm #

    Dave:
    Although I’m used to wingnut events attracting a microscopic crowd, this one really stands out. Donald Trump, and Ted Cruz, and Glenn Beck, and Sarah Palin — and nobody shows up.

    Palin used to get more than that at her book signing events. How the formerly mighty have fallen and deservedly so!

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    The Magic M (not logged in) September 10, 2015 at 3:27 am #

    Rickey: Say what? No frogmarching? What a letdown.

    Maybe some frogs were marching or marched, couldn’t see anything behind the Donald’s ego. But as for the President, I guess he still has his hands down and his Qu’ran up. 😉

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    john September 10, 2015 at 3:45 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I was just listening to a clip from Trump repeating over and over that we’re being governed by stupid people, but you know, I have never, ever, heard Donald Trump say anything remotely approaching intelligent, and indeed never heard him say anything to suggest he knows anything about the government or its policies. I don’t even know if he knows or cares what’s in the Iran deal. There are intelligent people on both sides of the Iran deal question, but I don’t Donald Trump is one of them.

    I have to agree with Trump. There is no rational reason in the world why we arn’t getting back out prisoners. Makes no sense at all. I mean why are we sending Iran 150 Billion dollars? Who in their right might mind would even begin to consider this deal. I mean with the deal, Iran can still have their Uranium. WTF….NO URANIUM, NO WEAPONS….NOTHING!!!!

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    roadburner September 10, 2015 at 6:21 am #

    john: I have to agree with Trump.There is no rational reason in the world why we arn’t getting back out prisoners.Makes no sense at all.I mean why are we sending Iran 150 Billion dollars?Who in their right might mind would even begin to consider this deal.I mean with the deal, Iran can still have their Uranium. WTF….NO URANIUM, NO WEAPONS….NOTHING!!!!

    john, your president is not `sending’ iran 150 billion dollars, it was funds that were frozen and belong to iran

    for god’s sake look at something other than wingnut blogs for your info!

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    Pete September 10, 2015 at 7:34 am #

    You can’t pay any attention to the media. If you ask me, it’s all a ruse to lull you guys to sleep while the SEAL teams come for all the remaining Obots. I mean, it’s obvious Obama has been overthrown as predicted. Very smart though of Trump to make the media pretend that not many people showed up for the rally and that Obama is still in power.

    Well, I’m safe up here in Mon… well, I’m not saying exactly where.

    If any of you are still free, I’d be very, very careful. There ARE places you can get across the northern border without being spotted. If you make it up here, look me up. Rendevous omega forty-two six niner. Blaagtrat keego. Hope you like poutine.

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    john September 10, 2015 at 9:47 am #

    john: I have to agree with Trump.There is no rational reason in the world why we arn’t getting back out prisoners.Makes no sense at all.I mean why are we sending Iran 150 Billion dollars?Who in their right might mind would even begin to consider this deal.I mean with the deal, Iran can still have their Uranium. WTF….NO URANIUM, NO WEAPONS….NOTHING!!!!

    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/iran-nuclear-talks/these-are-four-americans-iran-trump-wants-freed-n391986

    Congress needs to have a backbone like Ted Cruz said. Both houses are complete cowards. Congress should agree to shutdown the government for 3 months until Obama offers up a concession – Kills the Iran Deal, Defunds Planned Parenthood or Ends Obamacare.

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    Dr. Conspiracy September 10, 2015 at 9:55 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I was just listening to a clip from Trump repeating over and over that we’re being governed by stupid people, but you know, I have never, ever, heard Donald Trump say anything remotely approaching intelligent, and indeed never heard him say anything to suggest he knows anything about the government or its policies. I don’t even know if he knows or cares what’s in the Iran deal. There are intelligent people on both sides of the Iran deal question, but I don’t think Donald Trump is one of them.

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    john September 10, 2015 at 9:58 am #

    john: I have to agree with Trump.There is no rational reason in the world why we arn’t getting back out prisoners.Makes no sense at all.I mean why are we sending Iran 150 Billion dollars?Who in their right might mind would even begin to consider this deal.I mean with the deal, Iran can still have their Uranium. WTF….NO URANIUM, NO WEAPONS….NOTHING!!!!

    John Kerry looks like a ghoul. Regarding the hostages, there is no doubt in my mind Kerry would have turned Amanda Knox over to Italy after being found guilty (AGAIN!). Fortunately, her conviction was thrown out. Obama and Kerry have abandoned these people but agreed to release 5 Tailban Killers in exchange for the burnt traitor Bowe Bergdahl. I have no doubt that they released them because this was opportunity for Obama to release some of his Muslim friends. I have no doubt to Obama is a Muslim and it has been proved again and again and again (Being a Muslim is not completely accurate, Obama is more like a Muslim Sympathizer or Corlaborrator which why Obama can’t say he words Radical Islamic Terrorism.)

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    Dr. Conspiracy September 10, 2015 at 10:04 am #

    Smart move John. Kill the deal, and Iran gets most all it wants because OTHER countries are lifting sanctions, and we get nothing. OOPS.

    Just to be honest, do you actually know what the deal is?

    john: Kills the Iran Deal,

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    john September 10, 2015 at 10:10 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Iran gets significant sanctions relief whether we kill the deal or not, since many countries have agreed to lift sanctions. However, if we kill the deal, we get nothing from Iran. If the deal stays, we get reductions 98% reduction in stockpiles, 13,000 centrifuges shut down, and inspections.

    The deal says we know where everything is. Why aren’t destroying all stockpiles and destroying every last centrifuge. Reduction of stockpiles to 100%. There is no reason why Iran needs 2% of its stockpiles. All the centrifuges must be dismanteled – all of them.

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    john September 10, 2015 at 10:17 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Iran gets significant sanctions relief whether we kill the deal or not, since many countries have agreed to lift sanctions. However, if we kill the deal, we get nothing from Iran. If the deal stays, we get reductions 98% reduction in stockpiles, 13,000 centrifuges shut down, and inspections.

    regarding the sanctions. What should have done is the sanctions should be lifted but to a bare minimum, just barely enough for Iran to function. After seeing Iran comply, more sanctions could lifted in the future, like a step approach.

  60. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 10, 2015 at 10:24 am #

    Was George Bush? Obama explained why he doesn’t use those words:

    http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/08/07/3689493/radical-islam-debate/

    john: Obama is more like a Muslim Sympathizer or Corlaborrator which why Obama can’t say he words Radical Islamic Terrorism

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    AC180 September 10, 2015 at 10:45 am #

    Nancy R Owens:
    No, I’ve been writing while staying in my pajama bottoms and T-shirt. As a former University of Florida student of Creative Writing, I always dreamed of doing this. But, busy with kids, never thought it would actually happen.

    Feel free to critique my punctuation and grammar errors because it’s something upon which I need to focus. Commas have always been a major pain for me to understand.

    That’s what your whole shtick has been about this entire time, isn’t it? I think I’ve had you pegged all along. You don’t believe the crazy, wild stories you spin – it’s just a creative writing exercise. A parody of the worst traits of the Alex Jones’ and Birthers of our world!

    Well, you succeeded in making people think you’re crazy, that’s for sure. The only problem is, even the real crazies thought you were too far out there to be believable.

  62. avatar
    Curious George September 10, 2015 at 11:06 am #

    Pete

    “If any of you are still free, I’d be very, very careful. There ARE places you can get across the northern border without being spotted. If you make it up here, look me up. Rendevous omega forty-two six niner. Blaagtrat keego. Hope you like poutine.”

    I’m reviewing old black and white episodes of The Fugitive to get some pointers on staying free. I still haven’t figured out how we will get our Obot performance checks in the mail while on the run. These are desperate times Pete.

  63. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 10, 2015 at 11:11 am #

    But since other countries are lifting sanctions, a gradual lifting by us really wouldn’t matter much. When we negotiate these deals, we have to consider not only what we do, but what other countries will do. The Republicans can criticize because they don’t have to be responsible for the consequences. They don’t have to get it right. It only has to sound good to their constituents.

    john: regarding the sanctions.What should have done is the sanctions should be lifted but to a bare minimum, just barely enough for Iran to function.After seeing Iran comply, more sanctions could lifted in the future, like a step approach.

  64. avatar
    Nancy R Owens September 10, 2015 at 11:19 am #

    In 1983 we blew up Pablo’s “Napoles” in South Florida. The mission was something of a success. Afterwards, I was ordered by Dyess to leave town. This was to make sure no one could counter any heroic claims he would make.

    Having already given much thought to college, I opted for Journalism thinking this would give me a leg up against Dyess. My next major (UF) was Advertising which I studied for one and a half years. I felt I was good at one line slogans. I then realized Advertising was more about math and decided to go for Creative Writing instead.

    Shortly after Tiffany Sessions, whom I used to jog with, was murdered in my back yard, I was driven to a building where Pablo was staying. Certain events took place and a second girl, about 21 or so, was also murdered.

    Pablo let me live although it was clear that was not his initial plan. I’ve often wondered why he let me go and the only conclusion I can come up with is that he, being narcissistic, expected my to one day write about him and what he perceived to be heroic events for the Hispanic New World Order.

    Writing about the true history was never my intention from a fictional standpoint if ever at all. These things were supposed to remain secret. My goal was to take down Dyess and give my version of events hoping for the best and hoping people might understand. After that, I had no specific plans.

    The Russians are so much better at these world games than our people are. I agree with Trump. A lot of these people in Washington have been born with silver spoons and have no real comprehension of guerrilla warfare, the evidence being the fact that we now have a foreign King on the American throne.

    You will get the true history of Pablo from me if I am allowed to present it and it certainly won’t be a work of fiction.

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    AC180: That’s what your whole shtick has been about this entire time, isn’t it? I think I’ve had you pegged all along. You don’t believe the crazy, wild stories you spin – it’s just a creative writing exercise. A parody of the worst traits of the Alex Jones’ and Birthers of our world!

    Well, you succeeded in making people think you’re crazy, that’s for sure. The only problem is, even the real crazies thought you were too far out there to be believable.

  65. avatar
    john September 10, 2015 at 11:29 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: The Republicans can criticize because they don’t have to be responsible for the consequences. They don’t have to get it right.

    “The Republicans can criticize because they don’t have to be responsible for the consequences. They don’t have to get it right.”

    They have vote on the resolution to sanction the deal and not 1 republican will support with a 10 foot pole. Cruz had powerful speech yesterday. When he said those supporting the deal would be party to terrorism and murder, he should have read off by names all 42 Senators who have supported the deal. It’s important we know by name who supports this deal.
    Senator Dick Durbin will be a party to terrorism
    Senator Barbara Boxer will be a party to terrorism
    and so on.
    He could have even released the private cell phones of the Senators who supported the deal.
    What’s Diane Feinstein’s Private Cell Phone Number?

  66. avatar
    gorefan September 10, 2015 at 11:45 am #

    john: They

    Your buddy, Trump says Canadian citizens can be President of the United States.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-flip-flops-canada-born-ted-cruzs/story?id=33637878

  67. avatar
    Slartibartfast September 10, 2015 at 11:48 am #

    John,

    What about the Republican Senators (and others, I believe) who were a party to sedition when they sent their stupid and ignorant letter to Iran? For which the Irani foreign minister chastised them on their knowledge of the Constitution, I might note. Where is your concern with that incredibly stupid and possibly treasonous negotiating ploy?

    john: “The Republicans can criticize because they don’t have to be responsible for the consequences. They don’t have to get it right.”

    They have vote on the resolution to sanction the deal and not 1 republican will support with a 10 foot pole.Cruz had powerful speech yesterday.When he said those supporting the deal would be party to terrorism and murder, he should have read off by names all 42 Senators who have supported the deal.It’s important we know by name who supports this deal.
    Senator Dick Durbin will be a party to terrorism
    Senator Barbara Boxer will be a party to terrorism
    and so on.
    He could have even released the private cell phones of the Senators who supported the deal.
    What’s Diane Feinstein’s Private Cell Phone Number?

  68. avatar
    gorefan September 10, 2015 at 12:22 pm #

    john: They

    BTW, if Canadian born Cruz with his Cuban father is eligible then certain Hawaian born President Obama with a Kenya father is eligible.

  69. avatar
    CarlOrcas September 10, 2015 at 1:07 pm #

    john: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/iran-nuclear-talks/these-are-four-americans-iran-trump-wants-freed-n391986

    Congress needs to have a backbone like Ted Cruz said.Both houses are complete cowards.Congress should agree to shutdown the government for 3 months until Obama offers up a concession – Kills the Iran Deal, Defunds Planned Parenthood or Ends Obamacare.

    Congress can do all those things, john…..with enough votes. Problem is the Republicans don’t have the votes which is the way our system works. Why don’t you believe in America, john?

  70. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 10, 2015 at 1:22 pm #

    She should get to know Tim Adams.

    AC180: You don’t believe the crazy, wild stories you spin – it’s just a creative writing exercise.

  71. avatar
    CarlOrcas September 10, 2015 at 1:23 pm #

    john: Obama is more like a Muslim Sympathizer or Corlaborrator which why Obama can’t say he words Radical Islamic Terrorism.)

    Neither could George W. Bush. Looks like Obama isn’t the first Muslim “Corlaborrator” in the White House.

    http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/08/07/3689493/radical-islam-debate/

  72. avatar
    The Magic M (not logged in) September 10, 2015 at 1:26 pm #

    john: He could have even released the private cell phones of the Senators who supported the deal.

    That’s not the way politics are played in a democracy. And Ted Cruz definitely doesn’t want *his* private number to be made public. He’d get much more calls than any Democratic Senator, and I don’t mean supportive ones.

    But it looks like (actual) harrassment is the birthers’ everyday MO, all the while claiming anyone daring to criticize them is “harrassing” them.

  73. avatar
    CarlOrcas September 10, 2015 at 1:27 pm #

    john: Why aren’t destroying all stockpiles and destroying every last centrifuge.

    Good move, john. Blow up the uranium and processing plants up and you spread what all over the place??

    Quick, the clock is ticking.

  74. avatar
    CarlOrcas September 10, 2015 at 1:35 pm #

    john: Senator Dick Durbin will be a party to terrorism
    Senator Barbara Boxer will be a party to terrorism
    and so on.

    And then what should we do to them, john?

    john: He could have even released the private cell phones of the Senators who supported the deal.
    What’s Diane Feinstein’s Private Cell Phone Number?

    Now that’s a grown up way to deal with people you disagree with.

    What’s your cell phone number, john?

  75. avatar
    Rickey September 10, 2015 at 2:16 pm #

    john:
    He could have even released the private cell phones of the Senators who supported the deal.
    What’s Diane Feinstein’s Private Cell Phone Number?

    Because what could be more patriotic than harassing elected officials for doing their jobs?

    You can call or write to Senators at the phone numbers and addresses listed on the Senate website.

    However, I should caution you that Senators tend to ignore calls and correspondence from people who are not their constituents. Also calls and correspondence from nut jobs who spew nonsense.

  76. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG September 10, 2015 at 4:35 pm #

    john: He could have even released the private cell phones of the Senators who supported the deal.

    Sauce for the goose john. Can we release your private info to the public while we’re at it?

  77. avatar
    Pete September 10, 2015 at 4:41 pm #

    Rickey: However, I should caution you that Senators tend to ignore calls and correspondence from people who are not their constituents. Also calls and correspondence from nut jobs who spew nonsense.

    You mean, like birthers?

    Is that’s what’s been going on? Is that why 100 Senators and 435 US Representatives and their staffs have been studiously ignoring birthers at every possible opportunity for 6.75 years now?

    Huh. Ya learn something new every day.

  78. avatar
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater September 10, 2015 at 4:58 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: .

    Just to be honest, do you actually know what the deal is?

    Not anymore than he knows what jus soli is.

  79. avatar
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater September 10, 2015 at 5:00 pm #

    Nancy R Owens: In 1983 we blew up Pablo’s “Napoles” in South Florida

    You’re only off by a few thousand miles. Napoles was in Antioquia

  80. avatar
    Joey September 10, 2015 at 5:32 pm #

    The only U.S. President to sell American missiles to the Islamic Republic of Iran was Ronald Wilson Reagan (Iran-Contra).
    The only U.S. President to sign an amnesty bill into law for illegal aliens was Ronald Wilson Reagan (Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986).

  81. avatar
    Pete September 10, 2015 at 9:19 pm #

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: Not anymore than he knows what jus soli is.

    john probably thinks jus soli is a health drink.

  82. avatar
    Rickey September 10, 2015 at 10:11 pm #

    john: John Kerry looks like a ghoul.Regarding the hostages, there is no doubt in my mind Kerry would have turned Amanda Knox over to Italy after being found guilty (AGAIN!).Fortunately, her conviction was thrown out.

    Apparently you have a problem keeping up with the news. State Department officials told reporters back in March that Amanda Knox would never be extradited to Italy, regardless of whether Italy upheld her conviction.

  83. avatar
    HistorianDude September 10, 2015 at 10:49 pm #

    john: They have vote on the resolution to sanction the deal and not 1 republican will support with a 10 foot pole.

    In actuality, had you been paying attention you would have noticed that the Republicans in Congress have twisted themselves into pretzels trying to make sure the Iran deal is sustained. This could have been set up as a vote to APPROVE the deal, and that would have been much harder for Democrats to defeat. If it were normal legislation and not a treaty, you would need 60 to shut off debate and then 51 to prevail. For a treaty, 67 votes would be needed.

    But instead, the Republicans themselves set this up as a vote to DISAPPROVE the deal. So instead of needing 51 or 67 votes to win, the Democrats only needed 34 votes to sustain the President’s Veto, or 41 votes to prevent it ever getting a vote.

    Now… 92% of the House and 98% of the Senate voted to handle it this way. This is because the Republicans as a rule ACTUALLY SUPPORT THE DEAL… they just can’t say so in the face of a Republican base that is arguably insane. These guys are not as stupid as we often accuse them. They know the disaster that no deal at all would actually be, and they know full well no better deal was ever going to be possible. So in classic fashion, they set it up so the deal would pass, but they would still be able to avoid blame by never actually voting for it.

    Get this through your transcendentally thick skull, John. This is an absolutely bi-partisan deal. And it is the Congressional Republican Majority that made it possible.

  84. avatar
    The Magic M (not logged in) September 11, 2015 at 5:30 am #

    HistorianDude: This is because the Republicans as a rule ACTUALLY SUPPORT THE DEAL… they just can’t say so in the face of a Republican base that is arguably insane.

    Reminds me of the Snowden revelations about Saudia Arabia – the country actually supported deals with Israel but didn’t dare tell their crazy constituents about it.

    HistorianDude: But instead, the Republicans themselves set this up as a vote to DISAPPROVE the deal.

    It does sound a bit like their 50+ “repeals” of Obamacare.
    That’s why I’m not so sure that the GOP is actually that clever. If they brought a vote to approve the deal and failed, they would have to present an alternative, and they don’t have one (short of going to war which they can’t sell to the public – yet).
    Same with the ACA, they just want to voice their disapproval without having to come up with an alternative (specifically one that doesn’t plunge millions covered now back into non-coverage).

  85. avatar
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater September 11, 2015 at 8:35 am #

    Pete: john probably thinks jus soli is a health drink.

    Oh you missed his failed description of it about a month ago

  86. avatar
    Nancy R Owens September 11, 2015 at 8:39 am #

    From the movie “Contact” starring Jodie Foster, “Why build one when you can build two.” Like Disney World, there was more than one “Napoles.”

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: You’re only off by a few thousand miles.Napoles was in Antioquia

  87. avatar
    Curious George September 11, 2015 at 11:46 am #

    john: “Corlaborrator”

    Are you referring to the 2 barrel or 4 barrel variety?

  88. avatar
    Kate September 11, 2015 at 2:06 pm #

    Nancy R Owens:
    From the movie “Contact” starring Jodie Foster, “Why build one when you can build two.” Like Disney World, there was more than one “Napoles.”

    There was no Napoles in Florida, you’re delusional. WTF does a movie have to do with reality? Escobar did not live in the U.S., he was scared to death of being imprisoned here for life. It’s in his many biographies which are far more truthful than the crap you try to spin. What part of “Nobody believes a word you say” don’t you understand?

  89. avatar
    Nancy R Owens September 11, 2015 at 2:26 pm #

    He lived in my hometown of Clewiston, Florida, one of the Bush’s five Florida “sanctuary” cities under the protection of certain members of the Hendry County Sheriff’s Department. Did you live in Clewiston? No? Well, then you wouldn’t know, now would you?

    https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1320&dat=19930417&id=DUJWAAAAIBAJ&sjid=X-oDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2375,5198742&hl=en

    Kate: There was no Napoles in Florida, you’re delusional.WTF does a movie have to do with reality?Escobar did not live in the U.S., he was scared to death of being imprisoned here for life.It’s in his many biographies which are far more truthful than the crap you try to spin.What part of “Nobody believes a word you say” don’t you understand?

  90. avatar
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater September 11, 2015 at 5:17 pm #

    Nancy R Owens:
    From the movie “Contact” starring Jodie Foster, “Why build one when you can build two.” Like Disney World, there was more than one “Napoles.”

    Oh so you base your vivid imagination on movies instead of real life? There was no other napoles

  91. avatar
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater September 11, 2015 at 5:19 pm #

    Nancy R Owens: He lived in my hometown of Clewiston, Florida, one of the Bush’s five Florida “sanctuary” cities under the protection of certain members of the Hendry County Sheriff’s Department. Did you live in Clewiston? No? Well, then you wouldn’t know, now would you?

    No he did not because he was too busy living in San Diego California. That’s where he really was. Have you ever lived in San Diego? Then how would you know?

  92. avatar
    Kate September 11, 2015 at 6:21 pm #

    Nancy R Owens:
    He lived in my hometown of Clewiston, Florida, one of the Bush’s five Florida “sanctuary” cities under the protection of certain members of the Hendry County Sheriff’s Department. Did you live in Clewiston? No? Well, then you wouldn’t know, now would you?

    https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1320&dat=19930417&id=DUJWAAAAIBAJ&sjid=X-oDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2375,5198742&hl=en

    You continuously use a newspaper article from a trial that NEVER mentioned Escobar to validate your claims. It’s worthless as evidence of anything you’ve claimed. Dyess, Jr. is alive and well, currently living and working in Clewiston despite your claims of having killed him and many others who are still alive. You’ve taken the idea of creative writing and used it to build an imaginary past life for yourself.

    I didn’t live in Clewiston but those who have and still do say you’re delusional, including your family members. They aren’t lying, you are.

  93. avatar
    Slartibartfast September 11, 2015 at 7:04 pm #

    Let’s explore this a bit, shall we? Assume Nancy has been doing a creative writing exercise in Poe’s law. In that case, she’s been pretty successful at convincing us that she’s a whackjob, but she’s completely failed with the birthers, who see her as a whack-a-loon (technical term meaning someone that a whackjob thinks is crazy). So we should be providing her with criticism as to why her stories aren’t believable to people who have shown a strong affinity to really crazy theories. Things like telling her “Able Danger” wasn’t a person or that claiming that you killed someone who is still alive doesn’t add to your credibility.

    Oh wait, that’s exactly what people have been doing here all along. So I guess the question is, is Nancy a complete and total whack-a-loon or is she a bad performance artist who doesn’t take any feedback?

    Nancy R Owens:
    No, I’ve been writing while staying in my pajama bottoms and T-shirt. As a former University of Florida student of Creative Writing, I always dreamed of doing this. But, busy with kids, never thought it would actually happen.

    Feel free to critique my punctuation and grammar errors because it’s something upon which I need to focus. Commas have always been a major pain for me to understand.

  94. avatar
    Krosis September 12, 2015 at 7:01 am #

    Yeah, this is an interesting way to look at NRO. She managed to alienate her natural supporters by making claims even they considered too far-fetched.

  95. avatar
    Notorial Dissent September 12, 2015 at 9:14 am #

    I’ll take C. All of the above please.

  96. avatar
    Pete September 12, 2015 at 11:55 am #

    I’ll take a chili enchilada.

  97. avatar
    Rickey September 12, 2015 at 2:25 pm #

    Kate: You continuously use a newspaper article from a trial that NEVER mentioned Escobar to validate your claims.It’s worthless as evidence of anything you’ve claimed.Dyess, Jr. is alive and well, currently living and working in Clewiston despite your claims of having killed him and many others who are still alive.You’ve taken the idea of creative writing and used it to build an imaginary past life for yourself.

    You recall, I’m sure, that NRO never identified even one of her high school classmates that she claims were murdered by the cartel, just like Linda Joy Adams refused to identify any of the co-workers she claimed were killed by toxic fumes at a Social Security office in New Jersey.

    What tangled webs they weave.

  98. avatar
    RanTalbott September 13, 2015 at 3:24 am #

    Dave: Although I’m used to wingnut events attracting a microscopic crowd, this one really stands out.

    Look on the bright side: usually, they predict a million, and get a hundred. This time, they predicted hundreds of thousands, and got hundreds.

    So they’ve reduced their error ratio by a factor of 10. Give ’em a couple more iterations, and they might even get it right 😉

  99. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 13, 2015 at 8:07 am #

    Bernie Sanders drew about 10 times the number of supporters in Rock Hill, South Carolina last night, over 3,000 said the Charlotte Observer, and 3,500 according to another source.

    http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article35081709.html

  100. avatar
    RanTalbott September 15, 2015 at 11:44 pm #

    Sanders got 12,000 at Liberty University.

    ‘Course, he had a little help from the management, since it was their mandatory weekly convocation 😉

    I wonder if Trump will turn down their invitation when he discovers he won’t be allowed to have a bigger crowd 😈

  101. avatar
    The Magic M September 16, 2015 at 11:26 am #

    Despite all the crazyness, I’m puzzled why the anti-Iran deal rally in DC got so little traction even with the Donald speaking (or didn’t he?).
    How does Trump get five digits when he campaigns but only 100 people for events like that?
    If even Trump can’t fire up people for these causes, doesn’t that mean that effectively, the public does not care squat about them (or does not agree at all with the GOP here)?

  102. avatar
    Crustacean September 18, 2015 at 12:52 pm #

    And how the heck is it possible for this nimrod who refuses to provide specifics about his platform to be leading in the polls? I think it’s name recognition, because he’s on the Telescreen. Had his own “reality” show, no less.

    Sigh, this is all so depressing. I just “WTF’d” Lupin for implying that an existential threat to the United States is a good thing. But maybe he’s right.

    So depressing… but hey, it’s nothing that a couple shots of Victory Gin can’t fix.

    The Magic M: How does Trump get five digits when he campaigns but only 100 people for events like that?

  103. avatar
    Crustacean September 18, 2015 at 2:13 pm #

    As Arthur pointed out in the other thread, I totally blew it on what Lupin meant by his comment. I’m trying to figure out a way to blame this on someone other than myself, but all fingers are pointing at me, darn it!! Please accept my humble apologies, Lupin!

    Crustacean: I just “WTF’d” Lupin for implying that an existential threat to the United States is a good thing.

  104. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 18, 2015 at 7:26 pm #

    I’m working on an article that suggests an answer.

    Crustacean: And how the heck is it possible for this nimrod who refuses to provide specifics about his platform to be leading in the polls?

  105. avatar
    Pete September 18, 2015 at 8:24 pm #

    I don’t want to preempt Doc’s article, but here, let me write a brief article on the topic, in my own words.

    Why Donald Trump Is Leading in the Polls

    A reader asks: “How the heck is it possible for this nimrod who refuses to provide specifics about his platform to be leading in the polls?” Well, here’s my take on the matter.

    First, name recognition and star power go a long way with the American public.

    Second, never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.

  106. avatar
    charo September 18, 2015 at 9:27 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I’m working on an article that suggests an answer.

    He has released two position statements so far on his website. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform I expect there will be more coming.

  107. avatar
    RanTalbott September 18, 2015 at 10:20 pm #

    Crustacean: And how the heck is it possible for this nimrod who refuses to provide specifics about his platform to be leading in the polls? I think it’s name recognition

    That’s part of it. But, if it were all of it, he’d already be fading fast the way such candidates have in other elections.

    There’s a lot of dissatisfaction with the way our political system has been failing. Some of it’s vague, some specific. Some of it’s legitimate, some is bogus. But there’s a strong feeling across the political spectrum that the “establishment” candidates aren’t going to fix what’s perceived as “wrong”.

    Trump is appealing to those people because he says he’ll do things very differently. Eventually, he’ll get pressed for specifics, and his appeal will start to drop as people realize those specifics aren’t realistic. But right now they tend to be satisfied with a combination of that commitment and the fact that he’s succeeded at doing some big things in the private sector.

    To a lesser extent, some of that also applies to Sanders, but I don’t believe he’ll take the same dramatic hit because he does have substance to go with his emotional appeal. At least, not on the left. On the right, some of the people who have been ignoring his somewhat-socialist positions because they like his populism will decide he’s too far left for them. It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out, and how much people will fall for the grossly-oversimplified “socialist” label.

  108. avatar
    Rickey September 19, 2015 at 8:58 pm #

    charo: He has released two position statements so far on his website. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform I expect there will be more coming.

    But seriously lacking in detail. How much will his wall cost? How is it going to be financed? How is he going to overcome the environmental hurdles? How is he going to do it without rerouting the Rio Grande? How can it be done without violating the water use treaties we have with Mexico?

    Trump doesn’t say because he knows that it will never be built.

    He also doesn’t say how he is going to finance the deportation of 11 million undocumented aliens.