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The CIA connection

Up until now, there really hasn’t been much in the way of tying Obama’s Birth Certificate to the CIA. There was one juicy tidbit courtesy of Lawrence Sellin via the Peter Boyles radio show back on September 12, 2014:

Let me preface that by saying  Mike Zullo is in charge of the Cold Case Posse investigation into Barack Obama’s, in particular the birth certificate, the things around the birth certificate, and it’s basically a one man operation. Now I talked to Zullo a few weeks ago on the telephone and he indicated that Arpaio was gonna shut down the investigation last Autumn, but this whistleblower walked into Arpaio’s office basically and had information about how the — now this is what I was told; I’m not part of the investigation (unintelligible). What I’ve learned is that this whistleblower had information about, you know, how the birth certificate was produced, who might have done it, where it was done, and even pointed the finger towards CIA director John Brennan. … I think  Brennan is a bad guy, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s involved in this, all the shenanigans around birth certificate.

Is this the Smoking Gun?

Now there is more CIA conspiracy theory that came out during Arpaio’s testimony today from Exhibit 2074B, a note by Joe Arpaio type-written [see original image] on the back of a fax from Dennis Montgomery containing one of his notorious conspiracy charts:

On Nov.6 2013, at about 2:45 pm call from JC, who I met several times in San Diego (photographer) called my wife at sheriff’s office no. at residence stating he had to talk to me, and not use phones. Called him at 4:45 pm, presence of Sgt. Calderone. JC told me that Ava and my phone was being monitored by Feds, that I should change my tele no. Asked for more info. Admitted that Kimberly who I met several times in SD during speechs, (sic) and who worked for SD examiner, now working for a TV station had the info. I told JC to have Kimberly call me. JC told me that Kimberly is never wrong & she would call me. JC no. is REDACTED. Called JC on Nov. 12, 13 asked why Kimberly has not called. He said she is afraid, received info that My wife and my cell phone wiretapped. He said her source was from the East coast, said she has White House credentials. Mentioned CIA, she had or was going to pick up sensitive documents, afraid to do so crossing state lines, could be arrested. Told JC I would have Mike Zulos (sic) call JC.

On the top of the page Arpaio has hand written:

Judge Snow has sister in law works for Covington.
Wilcox Husband IN 150,000.00

Mary Rose Wilcox is the former Maricopa Board of Supervisors member who was a target of Arpaio.

Nah, Arpaio wasn’t investigating the judge. 🙄

Update:

Commenter Rickey expresses the opinion that “Kimberly” refers to Kimberly Dvorak, who writes for the San Diego Examiner and is an “independent investigative journalist” on Channel 6 News in San Diego. He notes that participants in the Fogbow forum conclude that “J. C.” is James C. Playford who praises Kimberly Dvorak on his Facebook page. Playford’s friends include birthers Gerry Nance (Borderraven) and Neil Turner. Libertarian vice-presidential candidate Wayne Allyn Root who didn’t remember Obama from Columbia has Dvorak as a Facebook friend.

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39 Responses to The CIA connection

  1. avatar
    Sudoku October 2, 2015 at 2:03 pm #

    Bingo!

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    Jim October 2, 2015 at 2:03 pm #

    Lemons twitter update for this morning…read from top

    https://twitter.com/stephenlemons

    Morning break at Arpaio hrng. Arpaio on stand discussing “smoking gun” docs. Faxfrm Montgomery.&typewritten memo frm Arpaio

    Arpaio letter dated November 6, 2013 mentions snow and mysterious in San Diego by the initials JC.#ArpaioContempt

    Arpaio says he was told by JC that he reporter “Kimberly”wanted 2inform him his phone&his wife’s phone tapped by the Feds #ArpaioContempt

    Arpaio sayshe sent birther investigatorMike Zullo 2check it out. Zullo came back from San Diego said he cldnt find Kimberly #ArpaioContempt

    Arpaio said he sent Zullo because he connected information from JC to Seattle investigation #ArpaioContempt

    But more important than conspiracy craziness is fact letter mentions snow at length #ArpaioContempt

    Arpaio letter mentions that former US Senator JonKyle works for Covington and Burling, & Snow was nominated by Kyle #ArpaioContempt

    Arpaio letter mentions Judge Snow’s birthday and birthplace #ArpaioConspiracy

    In Arpaio’s hand writing at the top of the letter it says “ChadSnow has sister-in-law works for Covington” #ArpaioContempt

    This scrawl is reference I believe to Snows brother in law, a lawyer who works for same firm in DC #ArpaioContempt

    Arpaio letter solid proof that sheriff either believed in or was concicting a conspiracy involving Snow #ArpaioContempt

    That Arpaio actually investigated this bullsh@t might make u questionhis sanity.Or itwas genius plot to conflict Snoworboth #ArpaioContempt

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    Pete October 2, 2015 at 3:45 pm #

    More:

    ——————————-

    Arpaio admitssought immunity for Montgomery frmArizona AG office under TomHorne.Admits he realized possibility info stolen #ArpaioContempt

    Arpaio’s admission re possibility of info stolen from CIA at the time might fit definition of inchoate crime. #ArpaioContempt

    Ultimately whatMCSO bought from Montgomery was “garbage” says Arpaio. But they thought it real. Which is Y immunity sought #ArpaioContempt

    Arpaio had occasional Captain Queeg moments.Claimed note 2 self about conspiracy was merely commenting on irony ofsituation #ArpaioContempt

    Arpaio defensive about his memo written on back of Montgomery timeline of conspiracy: “I have a right to make notes.” #ArpaioContempt

    Arpaio admitted links he made between Sen. Kyle, Obama, Snow,etc. we’re suggested by Montgomery’s faxed conspiracy timeline #ArpaioContempt

    At one point Plaintiffs attny Stan Young asked if Arpaio wrote memo at night and if he might’ve been “dreaming” at time #ArpaioContempt

    Arpaio’s conspiracy memo reviewed in court dtd 11/2013. Mentions Kyle going 2 work at Covington law frm. (Cont) #ArpaioContempt

    But Arpaio wasconfused on stand. Said he had seen article in paper about Kyle/Covington “a couple of months ago.” #ArpaioContempt

    Arpaio says birther attny Larry Klayman set up meeting between fed judge RoyceLamberth and Zullo and MCSO detective in DC #ArpaioContempt

    Arpaio says he set up meeting w/AAG Tom Horne 2discuss immunity for CI Montgomery. Said he (Arpaio) was present at meeting #ArpaioContempt

    If Arpaio’s criminal attrny Mel McDonald is worth 2cents, he will advise client to take5th. Arpaio is incriminating self #ArpaioContempt

    Arpaio’s civil attny Masterson seems 2understand severity of situation. I’m not sure if the other defense pettifoggers do #ArpaioContempt

    Arpaio’s typedconspiracymemo mentions FrmrSupervisor MRWilcox’s husbandEarl as victim of bankfraud. Earl&Mary Roseinaudience #ArpaioContempt

    Plaintiffs attny Stan Young quietly crucifying Arpaio, asking sort of perceptive Qs a Freudian analyst wld ask #ArpaioContempt

    ——————————-

    Fascinating stuff.

  4. avatar
    Pete October 2, 2015 at 4:38 pm #

    Arpaio’s only hope now is “senility defense.” Look for Joe 2 start channeling Vincent the Chin Gigante (Google it peeps) #ArpaioContempt

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    Pete October 2, 2015 at 4:41 pm #

    With the arrest and conviction of Gotti and various Gambino family members in 1992, Gigante was officially recognized as the most powerful crime boss in the United States. For the better part of 30 years, Gigante feigned insanity in an effort to throw law enforcement off his trail. Dubbed “The Oddfather” and “The Enigma in the Bathrobe” by the press, Gigante often wandered the streets of Greenwich Village in his bathrobe and slippers, mumbling incoherently to himself, in what Gigante later admitted was an elaborate act to avoid prosecution. He was finally indicted on federal racketeering charges in 1990, but was determined to be mentally unfit to stand trial. However, by 1997 he was tried and convicted of racketeering and was given a 12-year sentence. Facing new charges in 2003, he pleaded guilty and admitted that his supposed insanity was an elaborate effort to avoid prosecution.

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    HistorianDude October 2, 2015 at 4:57 pm #

    I get the biggest kick how even Arpaio get’s Zullo’s name wrong. And about two out of every three times brithers mention him when calling into to radio stations (blogtalk or Boyles) they call him “Zulu.”

    The guy is such a nobody that even people who think he’s a hero don’t bother to get his name right.

  7. avatar
    Pete October 2, 2015 at 6:34 pm #

    The referenced article appears to have Sheriff Arpaio’s memo in its original spelling.

    But I’m confused. Was it Kemberly, Kimberly, Kimerely, or Kimmerly? Or are these 4 separate people?

    And what does all of that have to do with Mike Zolus?

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    Pete October 2, 2015 at 6:39 pm #

    HistorianDude: The guy is such a nobody that even people who think he’s a hero don’t bother to get his name right.

    I think you should stop making fun of Mr. Luzzo and show a little respect. He is, after all, an important investigator on some very important cases.

  9. avatar
    alg October 2, 2015 at 7:23 pm #

    In the very words of one of the more prolific contributors over at “Birther Report:”

    book ’em danno!

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    Rickey October 2, 2015 at 7:28 pm #

    Kimberly is almost certainly Kimberly Dvorak, who writes for the San Diego Examiner and is an “independent investigative journalist” on Channel 6 News in San Diego.

    Crack investigator Mike Zullo flew to San Diego and couldn’t find her?

  11. avatar
    Pete October 2, 2015 at 7:38 pm #

    Rickey: Crack investigator Mike Zullo flew to San Diego and couldn’t find her?

    Crack investigator Mike Zullo couldn’t find his… well, his crack.

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    HistorianDude October 2, 2015 at 9:49 pm #

    Rickey: Crack investigator Mike Zullo flew to San Diego and couldn’t find her?

    As in his trips to Hawaii, Zullo appears to do no preparation whatsoever before he heads out to do his super-sleuthing. Once again we are faced with the obvious reasons his PI business folded after just 2 years and he moved to Arizona to work in his dad’s car sales business.

    As Jim wrote on Fogbow, “Zullo couldn’t find his nose if you gave him 2 nostrils first.”

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    Notorial Dissent October 2, 2015 at 11:08 pm #

    I’ve often thought the best outcome for someone would be to have Zullo on the case, particularly if they were guilty.

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    Rickey October 3, 2015 at 3:42 am #

    Our pals at The Fogbow have deduced that “JC” is a man named JC Playford, who praises Kimberly Dvorak on his Facebook page and whose FB friends include Gerry Nance (Borderraven) and Neil Turner. His full name is James C. Playford.

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    RanTalbott October 3, 2015 at 4:23 am #

    Lupin: What has “Zullo” / “Zulu” / “Zolus” been secretly doing in the AZ desert:

    What a perfect image to summarize the CCP: attempting to jam a round object into a square hole that’s too small, to put it in a structure that’s clearly in the process of collapsing. 😆

  16. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy October 3, 2015 at 10:26 am #

    There’s also Kimberly Hunt with ABC 10 KGTV in San Diego, but she doesn’t have the connection to JC to borderraven.

    It was interesting that when I typed “kimberly dvorak” into Google, it added “san diego” as the first entry in the drop down suggestion list.

    This is Dvorak’s Facebook page:

    https://www.facebook.com/kimberly.dvorak

    Kimberly Dvorak is one of the 5 people in Gerry Nance’s Google+ circle.

  17. avatar
    Jim October 3, 2015 at 11:32 am #

    HistorianDude:
    The guy is such a nobody that even people who think he’s a hero don’t bother to get his name right.

    Poor mikey….nobody will be calling him “Detective” or “Inspector” or “Commandant” anymore.

    Maybe “Mall Cop” and investigating shoplifting is more in line with his skill set.

    That would still be better than “Inmate 53861” that Arpaio’s going to make him after tossing him under the bus.

    Whatja think Mikey…the Mall or the Cell Block? It’s up to you.

  18. avatar
    Pete October 3, 2015 at 11:56 am #

    I would think Mr. Kluzzo would find the mall more to his liking.

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    Rickey October 3, 2015 at 2:57 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    There’s also Kimberly Hunt with ABC 10 KGTV in San Diego, but she doesn’t have the connection to JC to borderraven.

    And there’s no indication that Kimberly Hunt ever had any connection with San Diego Examiner. Dvorak writes for the Examiner and is on Channel 6, so she was the likely match.

    Dolly at the Fogbow found Kimberly Dvorak around the same time I did yesterday evening.

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    Pete October 3, 2015 at 3:13 pm #

    Dvorak also appears to be given to entertaining conspiracy-type theories.

    Not that there isn’t such a thing as a real conspiracy. But they seem to be pretty rare, and usually less exotic than the kinds of dramatic conspiracy theories that tend to take hold in the popular consciousness.

  21. avatar
    Rickey October 3, 2015 at 3:13 pm #

    Kimberly Dvorak also is a Facebook friend of Wayne Allyn Root.

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    gorefan October 4, 2015 at 2:26 am #

    Stephen Lemons has posted an image of the Arpaio memo. I think someone needs to get a copy of it to a typewriter expert like Paul Irey or Doug Vogt. It looks like a forgery with the line spacing and dancing typed letters and kerning.

    http://images1.phoenixnewtimes.com/imager/u/745xauto/7714913/mem.jpg

    and the story

    http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/joe-arpaio-wounded-on-the-stand-by-smoking-gun-7712770

  23. avatar
    Rickey October 4, 2015 at 11:59 am #

    It turns out that Kimberly Dvorak did some birthing back in 2009:

    http://kimberlydvorak.blogspot.com/2009/12/grand-jury-presentment-case-against.html

    Another of her Facebook friends is John Sampson, Orly’s discredited PI from Colorado.

    Mother Jones published an interesting article about Dvorak two years ago.

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/08/michael-hastings-conspiracy-theories-kim-dvorak

  24. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy October 4, 2015 at 12:44 pm #

    Please accept my apology for the cut and past error in this article. The text that originally appeared is NOT what Lawrence Sellin said on the Peter Boyles program. I have corrected the quote. You can listen to the entire program, including comments by Boyles and Sellin that former CIA director Brennan is a Muslim.

    Snopes has concluded that the story that Brennan is a Muslim lacks convincing evidence, and has ruled the story false.
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/brennan.asp

  25. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy October 4, 2015 at 1:13 pm #

    By what Sellin says, Montgomery first approached Arpaio about the birth certificate investigation and that the “Universe shattering” information was something we haven’t yet seen.

    Perhaps the “legal hurdles” Zullo mentioned had to do with attempts to get immunity for their “whistleblower.”

  26. avatar
    Pete October 4, 2015 at 1:46 pm #

    So are you saying that according to Sellin, the “universe shattering” information is something other than the federal government conspiracy theory?

  27. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy October 4, 2015 at 3:04 pm #

    I’ve never seen any narrative from the Cold Case Posse about a federal government conspiracy involving the CIA in Obama’s birth certificate. Montgomery reportedly had speculation about how, who and when, and I don’t know what that speculation was.

    I think the DOJ/Snow conspiracy theory is the deep, deep, deep dark thing Gallups and Zullo talked about later–the “turn” in the investigation.

    Pete: So are you saying that according to Sellin, the “universe shattering” information is something other than the federal government conspiracy theory?

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    Pete October 4, 2015 at 3:08 pm #

    So do you think the DOJ/Snow conspiracy theory was supposed to be the “universe shattering” information?

    Just clarifying. 🙂

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    Dr. Conspiracy October 4, 2015 at 3:59 pm #

    Let me re-think that.

    Arpaio, Zullo, Mackiewicz, and Blixseth met in October, 2013, where Arpaio supposedly first learned about Montgomery. (Source: Phoenix New Times)

    Sellin claims that Montgomery contacted Arpaio initially about the birth certificate. (Boyles interview)

    We have a fax from Montgomery November 5, 2013 that mentions Holder, Snow, the DOJ, and others. The next day, Arpaio gets the phone call from JC.

    November 8 Gallups cites Zullo and hints about a new “deep dark turn” in the investigation.

    “Zullo announced that he has discovered, with paper documentation, ‘universe-shattering new information’ in the investigation. Gallups stated that ‘mountains of evidence’ have been found which have changed the direction of the probe.” (Sharon Rondeau citing Gallups)

    Gallups Tweeted on November 22, 2013, the now infamous words “universe-shattering.”

    Mountains of evidence could refer to the 50 hard drives.

    The Sheriff’s Office started paying Montgomery in November, 2013.

    There’s a piece missing.

    Pete:
    So do you think the DOJ/Snow conspiracy theory was supposed to be the “universe shattering” information?

    Just clarifying. :-)

  30. avatar
    Rickey October 4, 2015 at 6:17 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:

    There’s a piece missing.

    It appears to me that the missing piece is any evidence to support Sellin’s claim that Montgomery contacted Arpaio about the birth certificate. In fact, I haven’t seen anything so far to indicate that Montgomery had anything to do with the birth certificate.

    My theory is that the birth certificate “investigation” never had anything to do with proving that Obama was ineligible. It was all about creating a distraction from the DOJ investigations of Arpaio and to discredit those investigations.

    On September 8, 2013 Reality Check and NBC sent Zullo proof that they had been able to replicate the White House PDF “anomalies” with a Xerox WorkCentre. At this point Zullo had to have realized that his entire theory about a forgery was falling apart.

    Roughly a month later Arpaio, Zullo, Mackiewicz, and Blixseth meet in Phoenix, where Blixseth tells them about Montgomery. Montgomery in turn probably learns from Blixseth that the birth certificate investigation is falling apart and that Arpaio is looking for something else to discredit the DOJ.

    Montgomery, a career scammer, sees an opportunity and sends Arpaio a fax on November 5 which suggests improper contacts among DOJ, the ACLU attorneys, and Judge Snow, but makes no mention of the birth certificate.

    Three days later Gallups announces that the investigation has taken a “deep dark turn.” Everyone assumes that he is talking about the birth certificate investigation, but in reality it is about investigating Judge Snow and DOJ, who were always the real targets.

    That’s how I see it, anyway.

  31. avatar
    W. Kevin Vicklund October 4, 2015 at 7:10 pm #

    Rickey: In fact, I haven’t seen anything so far to indicate that Montgomery had anything to do with the birth certificate.

    The first batch of emails showed that Montgomery was doing work on the birth certificate for Zullo. It was quite explicit.

  32. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy October 4, 2015 at 7:20 pm #

    I presume these are the emails:

    http://media.phoenixnewtimes.com/10509866.0.pdf

    And yes, there is an explicit statement, Zullo to Larry Klayman April 16, 2015:

    “Per our phone conversation , I need to know Dennis’s intentions on moving forward on a timely basis and honor his agreement with us and set a hard date to complete the paid work on the BC as he agreed to perform.. This work has nothing to do with the other issues he is dealing with and as of last month he was one week away from completion. That week as others came and went.”

    Montgomery wrote to Zullo June 29 2014: “ANGLIN told me stop work on the BC day one.”

    W. Kevin Vicklund: The first batch of emails showed that Montgomery was doing work on the birth certificate for Zullo. It was quite explicit.

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    Curious George October 4, 2015 at 7:28 pm #

    W. Kevin Vicklund:

    ” The first batch of emails showed that Montgomery was doing work on the birth certificate for Zullo. It was quite explicit. ”

    Yes, it’s in the court record. And, the birth certificate investigation continues to be brought up in court by the plaintiffs to show Arpaio’s state of mind when it comes to officials who oppose him.

  34. avatar
    Rickey October 4, 2015 at 9:33 pm #

    W. Kevin Vicklund: The first batch of emails showed that Montgomerywas doing work on the birth certificate for Zullo.It was quite explicit.

    Thanks. I stand corrected.

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    Notorial Dissent October 4, 2015 at 10:41 pm #

    You’d think that this group who are apparently, at least to all appearances, professional liars, would at least be better and more consistent at it. I swear amateur city all the way around. Like I said, this bunch makes the Keystone Kops look professional and efficient.

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    The Magic M (not logged in) October 6, 2015 at 7:24 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: and set a hard date to complete the paid work on the BC as he agreed to perform

    Zullo is probably going to claim BC means “Bayes coefficients” or “Breach of Customer accounts” or “Bobby Car”. 😉

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    Curious George October 6, 2015 at 11:53 am #

    The Magic M
    Dr. Conspiracy:
    and set a hard date to complete the paid work on the BC as he agreed to perform

    “Zullo is probably going to claim BC means “Bayes coefficients” or “Breach of Customer accounts” or “Bobby Car”. 😉”

    It also could be short for the “Big Con.”

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    Notorial Dissent October 6, 2015 at 1:46 pm #

    Like Zullo would even know what the first two meant, and would probably be hazy on the last two.

    KKKlayman has been amazingly silent of late, wonder what that bodes. I’d have thought he’d have been screeching about something by now.

    Curious George:
    The Magic M
    Dr. Conspiracy:
    and set a hard date to complete the paid work on the BC as he agreed to perform

    “Zullo is probably going to claim BC means “Bayes coefficients” or “Breach of Customer accounts” or “Bobby Car”. ”

    It also could be short for the “Big Con.”