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“RC” identified in Melendres documents

The Fogbow implicated!

After all these years of mystery, the name of RC has appeared in documents released in the Melendres v. Arpaio lawsuit. The Cold Case Posse knew this all along. This shocking new information is courtesy of Stephen Lemons of the Phoenix New Times.

 

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I know RC. RC is a friend of mine, and you Richard Skalsky are no RC. Yes, the identification is totally and completely bogus.

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56 Responses to “RC” identified in Melendres documents

  1. avatar
    wrecking ball November 10, 2015 at 1:49 pm #

    let me be the first to say…… bwahahahahahaha!!!!!

  2. avatar
    RanTalbott November 10, 2015 at 2:04 pm #

    “Yes, the identification is totally and completely bogus.”
    Sorta gives a new meaning to “artificial intelligence”, don’t it?

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    HistorianDude November 10, 2015 at 2:08 pm #

    Feb. 7, 2014 Freedom Friday:

    Zullo: We have a pretty good idea who some of the ones that are anonymous are. One in particular we know works in the field of artificial intelligence in projects that are funded by DARPA. So, that tells you a lot right there. We have traced IP addresses going back directly to the administration. What we’re finding on those is very suspicious as to when log-ins happen and when things are posted.

  4. avatar
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater November 10, 2015 at 2:14 pm #

    Having looked up the IP addresses located at the bottom of the list none of them match what they say in fact each of them tracks back to Holland.

  5. avatar
    Pete November 10, 2015 at 2:32 pm #

    In other words, it’s not just nonsense, it’s OBVIOUS nonsense. At least, to anyone who knows how and takes the 3 to 5 minutes required to do a search.

    This from someone who was supposed to be a computer expert of some sort. Of course, Montgomery knew he was dealing with a bunch of fools, so having plausible IP addresses didn’t matter from that point of view. But surely he had to think they might at some point consult someone who actually had the faintest clue?

    On the other hand, at that point, it probably doesn’t matter. At that point, Montgomery has the money and it’s all spent already.

    And it’s not like the MCSO would ever file a lawsuit, although it’s possible they might find some other way to retaliate.

    Gosh. How hard is it to come up with a plausible IP address?

    [Edit: I’ll answer my own question: Not very hard. Maybe 3 minutes.]

  6. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy November 10, 2015 at 2:51 pm #

    The third one isn’t even a valid IP address. I track the others to Cambridge, MA.

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: Having looked up the IP addresses located at the bottom of the list none of them match what they say in fact each of them tracks back to Holland.

  7. avatar
    Voice of Reason November 10, 2015 at 2:55 pm #

    Are the Birthers going wild with this “information”?

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    RanTalbott November 10, 2015 at 3:13 pm #

    Pete: But surely he had to think they might at some point consult someone who actually had the faintest clue?

    Not if he watched the press debacles, or read any of what they produced. If they ever came into contact with anyone who had the faintest clue, they’d be destroyed in a matter-antimatter reaction, and he’d be in the clear 😉

    whois says the IPA block from 173.222.0.0 – 173.223.255.255 is assigned to Akamai.

    Voice of Reason: Are the Birthers going wild with this “information”?

    They’re still waiting for Sharon Rondeau to tell them what to think.

  9. avatar
    gorefan November 10, 2015 at 3:21 pm #

    I don’t know about hidden messages in Al Jazeera videos but if you Google “Dept 46” with the quotes, one of the first entries is,

    Rc_scanner Verifier Putaway Dept 46 Jobs in Waco, TX

    http://www.snagajob.com/job-search/w-waco,+tx/q-rc_scanner+verifier+putaway+dept+46

    Clearly a coded message from the CIA/Darpa about RC and his Xerox work.

  10. avatar
    bob November 10, 2015 at 8:05 pm #

    Zullo invoked the Fifth in court 37 times today. (And around 300 times in his deposition.)

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    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater November 10, 2015 at 8:19 pm #

    RanTalbott: whois says the IPA block from 173.222.0.0 – 173.223.255.255 is assigned to Akamai.

    That’s exactly what I used to track as well and got the same results

  12. avatar
    gorefan November 10, 2015 at 8:21 pm #

    bob:
    Zullo invoked the Fifth in court 37 times today.(And around 300 times in his deposition.)

    In the “Whistlerblower Chronicles” there is this,

    9/06/2013 Dennis Montgomery gives interview to MCSO at home in Yarrow Point home

    That is the same date as the Cantwell PDF and is before the date that Zullo said the MCSO first met Montgomery.

    There is also this:

    10/06/2014 Dennis Montgomery delivers Birth Certificate with jpeg, watermark, and patter matching output.

    http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/joe-arpaios-cloak-and-dagger-seattle-operation-files-released-7804727

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    Rickey November 10, 2015 at 10:15 pm #

    gorefan:

    There is also this:

    10/06/2014 Dennis Montgomery delivers Birth Certificate with jpeg, watermark, and patter matching output.

    On 11/6/14 Zullo writes to Montgomery:

    Subject: Work
    Source Code to BC tonight.
    Coming up there and identifying the watermarks against other documents.
    Verification that the emails about the sheriffs and Sheridan are true and not implanted.

    Montgomery responds:

    Unrealistic expectations.

    What we’re seeing is a textbook scam. Whenever Zullo asks for something Montgomery delays, deflects, or just ignores the request.

    Then, on 11/14/14, Mackiewicz forwards to Zullo an e-mail from Tom Drake which says that he and Karl Wiebe analyzed the hard drives and concluded that Montgomery “is a complete and total fraud.” That must have been universe-shattering!

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    gorefan November 10, 2015 at 10:30 pm #

    Rickey: Zullo

    And from the transcript of the deposition:

    Q. Now, you told Mr. Montgomery that first you would want him to deal with the birth certificate in order to get the sheriff back and then you would go for the data that related to the contempt proceeding with Judge Snow; is that correct?

    A. Taking the Fifth.

    Q. Well, then Mr. Montgomery at 8:46 p.m. says, quote, “Okay. That will take time. Need to deconstruct 3 different versions of Adobe (9, 10, and 11) using 2 different formats each. Just complicated. Just hold on to your plan for now, I guess,” end quote.

  15. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy November 10, 2015 at 10:50 pm #

    I left a note at Birther Report over 5 hours ago, and so far no replies.

    Voice of Reason: Are the Birthers going wild with this “information”?

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    john November 10, 2015 at 11:47 pm #

    The IP Address goes back to Boston, MA. Interestly enough, I have always suspected the RC may be from MA, specifically the Springfield Area. Evidence apparently showed that RC was vocal about some of the local politics there. I never could tie any name to that evidence although I later did find out the RC goes by Randy Daniels.

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    john November 11, 2015 at 12:09 am #

    In RC’s videos, RC shows the Xerox Machine he uses to scan the birth certificate. On the Xerox Machine is a bar code that identifies who might own that machine (perhaps the company or business). Unfortunately, the bar code is too fuzzy and I can’t see it clearly to know. But I do know that RC keeps his files in folder named DAN which could a short for Daniels, the original name I discovered behind RC.

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    Crustacean November 11, 2015 at 12:16 am #

    Not sure why you’re so hell-bent on finding RC’s identity, but it isn’t Daniels. You found a big clue with Springfield, though. With apologies to RC, I am prepared to reveal his true identity: “RC” is really Troy McClure, star of stage, screen, and automated informational kiosks. You may remember him from such films as “Calling all Quakers” and “The President’s Neck is Missing.”

    john:
    The IP Address goes back to Boston, MA.Interestly enough, I have always suspected the RC may be from MA, specifically the Springfield Area.Evidence apparently showed that RC was vocal about some of the local politics there.I never could tie any name to that evidence although I later did find out the RC goes by Randy Daniels.

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    Rickey November 11, 2015 at 12:21 am #

    john:
    The IP Address goes back to Boston, MA.Interestly enough, I have always suspected the RC may be from MA, specifically the Springfield Area.Evidence apparently showed that RC was vocal about some of the local politics there.I never could tie any name to that evidence although I later did find out the RC goes by Randy Daniels.

    Springfield is more than 90 miles west of Boston.

    And the Randy Daniels who used to live in Springfield has been living in California for the last twenty years.

  20. avatar
    vic November 11, 2015 at 12:49 am #

    Akamai is a provider of cloud services and content delivery. While their headquarters might be in Cambridge, MA, their servers are located around the world.

    I used to be a web developer for a large newspaper. We used Akamai to speed the delivery of some of our content (and I still use the coffee cup they gave me). Akamai had servers colocated at major ISPs and hubs around the internet. When we wanted to use their servers to accelerate our content, we would use create a special Akamai URL for the content. The network routes at the ISPs were configured such that requests at the ISP/hub for that URL would go to the colocated Akamai server, which could then determine the real URL for the content on our site. They would request the content from our site, and then cache it on their server so that further requests wouldn’t have to traverse the network back to our servers. IIRC, the Akamai servers at the various hubs would also communicate so that once one of them retrieved our content, it would be shared to the other Akamai servers,

    Which all goes to say that at least for how we used Akamai, seeing an Akamai URL said nothing about where the real server of the content was located.

  21. avatar
    RanTalbott November 11, 2015 at 1:55 am #

    john: Unfortunately, the bar code is too fuzzy and I can’t see it clearly to know.

    Obviously, that means that machine is a forgery. You should check it for layers, and whether the metadata tells you who really manufactured it.

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    Keith November 11, 2015 at 2:49 am #

    RanTalbott: Obviously, that means that machine is a forgery. You should check it for layers, and whether the metadata tells you who really manufactured it.

    Sometimes I miss the fact that Doc can’t (or doesn’t) have a ‘like’ button on the site.

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    Pete November 11, 2015 at 3:55 am #

    john:
    The IP Address goes back to Boston, MA.Interestly enough, I have always suspected the RC may be from MA, specifically the Springfield Area.Evidence apparently showed that RC was vocal about some of the local politics there.I never could tie any name to that evidence although I later did find out the RC goes by Randy Daniels.

    Actually, some sources show it as being in Virginia, which gives you an idea of the accuracy of the whole thing, assuming the IP address even has the faintest association with RC, which, since Montgomery’s entire story is made-up nonsense, would not be a reliable assumption.

    Not to mention the fact that someone who worked with Akamai’s network indicates that an apparent IP on their system may well not have anything to do with the original IP at all.

    None of this is to discourage you from thinking RC is in Boston. Or Virginia. Or Palo Alto.

    Or Connecticut. Or Dallas, or Baton Rouge, or Cleveland, or Detroit, or Little River or Butte, Montana. You can think whatever you like.

    Personally, I wouldn’t confirm or disconfirm anything. I’d just as soon let you think he is Richard Skalsky out in Palo Alto. Confirming a miss is not the best policy IMO because some day someone might actually get lucky and guess correctly. Sort of like playing Battleship.

    Of course that may be unlikely to happen, since it seems birthers have been trying to figure out RC’s identity for some time now, and the clock on any possible relevance whatsoever is rapidly running out. We are now just 362 days, less than a year, from the election of our next President.

    Except of course that Obama is going to suspend the Constitution and cancel the 2016 elections and assume dictatorial power. That should happen any day now, so you’d better be really nervous because the time is getting very short.

    Or maybe he’s going to be frogmarched out of the White House any day now. Darn, I forget which it is.

  24. avatar
    RanTalbott November 11, 2015 at 4:32 am #

    Pete: Actually, some sources show it as being in Virginia, which gives you an idea of the accuracy of the whole thing, assuming the IP address even has the faintest association with RC, which, since Montgomery’s entire story is made-up nonsense, would not be a reliable assumption.

    I touched on this some in the “Outing” thread. The registration address tells you nothing about the location of the equipment using the IPAs, unless it’s a small block assigned to a company with limited physical locations. Since this block belongs to Akamai, the networked equipment will literally be all over the planet. And, as vic pointed out, will actually mask RC’s location if they’re really associated with him somehow (which they’re almost certainly not).

    So, once again, the birfoons have fumbled around with a system they don’t understand, misinterpreted what they saw, and taken a flying leap to a hilariously wrong conclusion. The person at Fogbow who’s been peppering his or her comments with Wile E. Coyote cartoons has nailed it quite elegantly.

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    ArthurWankspittle November 11, 2015 at 4:47 am #

    Crustacean:
    Not sure why you’re so hell-bent on finding RC’s identity, but it isn’t Daniels. You found a big clue with Springfield, though.With apologies to RC, I am prepared to reveal his true identity: “RC” is really Troy McClure, star of stage, screen, and automated informational kiosks. You may remember him from such films as “Calling all Quakers” and “The President’s Neck is Missing.”

    Didn’t Troy McClure narrate “The Birthers’ Brains are Missing” too?

  26. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy November 11, 2015 at 8:04 am #

    If it is an inventory tag, then it wouldn’t be meaningful outside the business that owns it which you don’t know (nor do I).

    So we have RC, RD and RS. Seems like a pattern is forming.

    john: On the Xerox Machine is a bar code that identifies who might own that machine (perhaps the company or business).

  27. avatar
    HistorianDude November 11, 2015 at 8:24 am #

    john:
    I later did find out the RC goes by Randy Daniels.

    “Randy Daniels” is the pseudonym that RC used/uses in correspondence with birthers.

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    BrianH November 11, 2015 at 9:01 am #

    RanTalbott:
    “Yes, the identification is totally and completely bogus.”
    Sorta gives a new meaning to “artificial intelligence”, don’t it?

    Good one. 🙂

  29. avatar
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater November 11, 2015 at 10:08 am #

    john: Evidence apparently showed that RC was vocal about some of the local politics there

    Non existent evidence?

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    bgansel9 November 11, 2015 at 12:38 pm #

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: Having looked up the IP addresses located at the bottom of the list none of them match what they say in fact each of them tracks back to Holland.

    Why am I not surprised? And, is this supposed to be the universe shattering evidence? LMAO

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    bgansel9 November 11, 2015 at 1:10 pm #

    john: I never could tie any name to that evidence although I later did find out the RC goes by Randy Daniels.

    Gosh john, maybe you should get a lawyer. Sounds like you could be deposed soon. It appears you’re the missing link.

    I’m joking, of course.

  32. avatar
    bgansel9 November 11, 2015 at 1:19 pm #

    Pete: Except of course that Obama is going to suspend the Constitution and cancel the 2016 elections and assume dictatorial power. That should happen any day now, so you’d better be really nervous because the time is getting very short.

    Or maybe he’s going to be frogmarched out of the White House any day now. Darn, I forget which it is.

    I thought he was supposed to be shot in the Oval Office with Colonel Mustard’s gun?

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    bgansel9 November 11, 2015 at 1:29 pm #

    I assume Skalsky is a fake name? But, they are stating this person works for the CIA and is using CIA equipment to discuss Obama conspiracies? Does this open up another level of inquiry? For the investigative team of a sitting sheriff to be communicating back and forth about a CIA operation seems to be out of the realm of Maricopa County interests, yes?

  34. avatar
    Pete November 11, 2015 at 1:52 pm #

    HistorianDude: “Randy Daniels” is the pseudonym that RC used/uses in correspondence with birthers.

    Is Randy any kin to Susan?

  35. avatar
    bob November 11, 2015 at 1:56 pm #

    bgansel9: I assume Skalsky is a fake name?

    There is a person with that name associated with the AAAI. I see no evidence that the name Is fake.

    And, of course, there is no evidence (other than Montgomery’s junk) that RC is that person.

  36. avatar
    Arthur B. November 11, 2015 at 2:12 pm #

    bob: There is a person with that name associated with the AAAI. I see no evidence that the name Is fake.

    That strikes me as a good reason for us not to use the name. Some poor fellow is already being saddled with a search-engine trail and we have no reason to believe that he deserves to be in that position.

  37. avatar
    RanTalbott November 11, 2015 at 4:33 pm #

    Arthur B.: Some poor fellow is already being saddled with a search-engine trail and we have no reason to believe that he deserves to be in that position.

    Not to worry: any good conspiracy theorist will tell you that Google is in cahoots with the spy agencies (You thought it was a coincidence that they just changed their name to “Alphabet”? Wake up, sheeple!). They’ll make sure the trail is erased.

    bob: And, of course, there is no evidence (other than Montgomery’s junk) that RC is that person.

    Ah, but. according to “Jim” over in the gerbil warren:

    Right now, the evidence in the document stands true and accurate until RC proves to us otherwise.

    He also offered a potential QOTD, given that BR is “a forum where about 99% of the participants and hiding behind pseudonyms, and many are making threats of violence” (my description):

    As an ordained minister, I’m sure you would agree that hiding in the dark is the behavior of the anti-christ and his workers.

  38. avatar
    Dave B. November 11, 2015 at 4:44 pm #

    Kind of like reputable attorney Richard R. Silverlieb:

    https://plus.google.com/115957640027640403285/about

    Arthur B.: Some poor fellow is already being saddled with a search-engine trail and we have no reason to believe that he deserves to be in that position.

  39. avatar
    Reality Check November 11, 2015 at 6:44 pm #

    I know who Skalsy is and how Montgomery and/or Zullo probably found his name and thought he was some important Obot. It’s a stupid mistake that Birthers actually made at least once before. More later…

    (Thanks to twinx at THEFogbow who tipped me off on this.)

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    Reality Check November 11, 2015 at 7:18 pm #

    Typo “Skalsky”. I can’t even type my own name. 😆

    Reality Check: I know who Skalsy

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    Dr. Conspiracy November 11, 2015 at 9:26 pm #

    How do you want to handle the “more later”? Are you going to blog about it, or post a comment. The story is a hoot, though.

    Reality Check: I know who Skalsy is and how Montgomery and/or Zullo probably found his name and thought he was some important Obot. It’s a stupid mistake that Birthers actually made at least once before. More later…

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    Reality Check November 11, 2015 at 10:07 pm #

    twinx at the Fogbow sent me a PM on Skalsky earlier tonight. Skalsky was misidentified in 2011 as the owner of the Fogbow Forum. He owns a domain called “fogstar.com”. However, he also registered “fogbow.com” as a domain that redirects to his fogstar.com site. Of course Foggy’s forum is “thefogbow.com”. Other Birthers made this mistake when the Fogbow first came on line. Skalsky’s name came up in a comment at Dr. Kate’s forum in 2011 and there was a comment by an anonymous person at ORYR in 2012.

    Anonymous May 28, 2012 at 2:18 PM

    fogbow:
    Registrant:
    R. Skalsky
    PO Box 50880
    Palo Alto, California 94303-0880
    United States

    Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC (http://www.godaddy.com)
    Domain Name: FOGBOW.COM
    Created on: 16-Dec-99
    Expires on: 16-Dec-13
    Last Updated on: 18-Jan-11

    Administrative Contact:
    Skalsky, R. fogz9000-4@yahoo.com
    PO Box 50880
    Palo Alto, California 94303-0880
    United States
    +1.6508561924

    Technical Contact:
    Skalsky, R. fogz9000-4@yahoo.com
    PO Box 50880
    Palo Alto, California 94303-0880
    United States
    +1.6508561924

    http://www.obamareleaseyourrecords.com/2012/05/sheriff-arpaios-obama-investigation.html?showComment=1338239908578#c732124646229522203

    I can’t find a link to the comment at Dr. Kate’s forum but majorbabs at the Fogbow quoted a comment at Dr. Kates blog back in January 2011 that cited Skalsky incorrectly as the as the owner of the Fogbow forum. .

    http://thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140521#p140521

    Mr Skalsky appears to be a sound technician or engineer. This is from his web site:

    Welcome to FogStar. I work with Sound, Color, Light and other bio- and subtle energies. I am a musician, mixed-media artist, audio, video and computer engineer, a researcher and writer, a designer and builder of sound therapy tables and other interesting devices, and a creator of specialized and customized CDs & DVDs for sound tables, self-development, and other uses. I also work with and create special frequency commutations for various uses like brainwave and body entrainments, relaxation and well-being.

    So in summary they searched for the wrong domain and somehow misidentified Skalsky as “RC”. How incredibly stupid is that? This appears to also be the basis for Zullo’s slanderous claim that I was under a criminal investigation, a claim that Mike Volin also parroted on his Blog Talk Radio program. These people are clowns and liars. They make the Keystone Kops look like an elite law enforcement agency. .

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    How do you want to handle the “more later”? Are you going to blog about it, or post a comment. The story is a hoot, though.

  43. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy November 11, 2015 at 10:23 pm #

    In a bit of irony, this site’s security software blocked an IP address from Arizona a few minutes ago after 20 login failures.

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    RanTalbott November 11, 2015 at 10:27 pm #

    Reality Check: Mr Skalsky appears to be a sound technician or engineer.

    So he’s not the same Skalsky who’s a member of AAAI (I was thinking it might be a hobby, but that description sounds like a profession)? That would make it even funnier.

    $DEITY help them if they ever decide to make enemies with someone with a common name like “Bob Jones”: they’ll be seeing bogeymen everywhere…

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    RanTalbott November 11, 2015 at 10:30 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: In a bit of irony, this site’s security software blocked an IP address from Arizona a few minutes ago after 20 login failures.

    Wasn’t there an IPA in a rural area up around Kingman that the gerbils claimed was doing something nefarious a while back?

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    Dr. Conspiracy November 11, 2015 at 10:38 pm #

    So I guess the sound guy Skalsky is the same as the AAAI guy Skalsky based on the proximity of residence.

    aaai.org doesn’t run a finger daemon, and it doesn’t allow a SMTP VRFY, so I can’t use them to verify Montgomery’s two email address. I found the “ras” address on the Internet and it is correct. I couldn’t find “rc.” It may well be made up.

    Reality Check: So in summary they searched for the wrong domain and somehow misidentified Skalsky as “RC”.

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    Jim November 11, 2015 at 11:02 pm #

    I hate to say it but…this guy Skalsky has a much, much more impressive resume than Reed Hayes…I wonder if he’d consider branching into internet birth certificate verification? I know a gullible fake detective who pays big bucks for magic information. 😀

  48. avatar
    Dave B. November 11, 2015 at 11:47 pm #

    So basically birthers can’t tell the difference between fogbow.com and thefogbow.com. They’re obverously communists.

    Reality Check: He owns a domain called “fogstar.com”. However, he also registered “fogbow.com” as a domain that redirects to his fogstar.com site. Of course Foggy’s forum is “thefogbow.com”. Other Birthers made this mistake when the Fogbow first came on line.

  49. avatar
    Pete November 12, 2015 at 1:55 am #

    The stupidity of the whole thing is fairly mind-boggling.

  50. avatar
    Slartibartfast November 12, 2015 at 2:16 am #

    An apt description of the birther movement in general.

    Pete:
    The stupidity of the whole thing is fairly mind-boggling.

  51. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy November 12, 2015 at 6:42 am #

    Ted Cruz will be at a “rally for religious liberty” at Bob Jones U. on the 14th.

    RanTalbott: $DEITY help them if they ever decide to make enemies with someone with a common name like “Bob Jones”: they’ll be seeing bogeymen everywhere…

  52. avatar
    RanTalbott November 12, 2015 at 7:01 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: Ted Cruz will be at a “rally for religious liberty” at Bob Jones U. on the 14th.

    Are they going to force the entire student body to attend, like Liberty did?

    Could be a smart move: give them a little taste of what Hell will be like, so they have an incentive to behave 😉

  53. avatar
    Reality Check November 12, 2015 at 8:01 am #

    Catch RC Radio tonight at 9 PM. I expect a boots on the ground report from Phoenix covering Zullo’s second day on the stand. More details will be posted later today.

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    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater November 12, 2015 at 12:52 pm #

    It reminds me of a poster on amazon lately who claimed obamaphone.com was proof of the obama phones. Nevermind that it has no association whatsoever to the lifeline program and was some .com someone put up.

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    dunstvangeet November 12, 2015 at 2:53 pm #

    Bob Jones University

    Wouldn’t let black people attend there until 1971. Wouldn’t let single black people until 1975. Tried to argue that its ban against interracial dating was part of it’s first amendment right of religion in 1976, when the IRS redacted their ability to receive a federal tax exemption (they lost). They actually spent 25 years defending that interracial dating policy, and only changed it when George W. Bush came to speak there in 2000 as part of his Presdienctial Campaign.

    Real great place to defend “religious liberty”.

  56. avatar
    Crustacean November 12, 2015 at 4:49 pm #

    Those who decry losing their “religious liberty” are often the same who lost their irony meters long ago.

    One of the definitions of the word “liberty” is “impertinent freedom in action or speech,” as in “to take liberties” with something. They must mean it that way.

    dunstvangeet: Real great place to defend “religious liberty”.