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The occasional open thread: it’s all in your head

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  1. avatar
    RanTalbott November 29, 2015 at 4:51 am #

    BR’s Black Friday Doorbuster was a P&E article about Robert Laity sending an email to Trump’s attorney that encouraged him to go full metal birfoon on Cruz, Rubio, and Jindal.

    I guess Gallups wasn’t able to gin up a universe-shattering BREAKING!!! NEWS!!! UPDATE!!! that we anti-birthers could be thankful for…

    Things are getting so pathetic in Birferstan that I’m thinking it might be time for another “Hitler in the Bunker” mash-up, featuring the Melendres revelations about Monty the Python’s scam.

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    Dr. Conspiracy November 29, 2015 at 11:23 pm #

    Trump slumps. Approval rating among Republicans drops 12 points in a week. New Reuters poll:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/27/us-election-trump-idUSKBN0TG2AN20151127

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    RanTalbott November 30, 2015 at 3:12 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: Trump slumps.

    Or not: that 43% previous result was a dramatic outlier, with a rather small sample size, and the new 31% number is more in line with what other polls have been reporting.

    Yesterday Trump gloated on Twitter about a poll showing him getting 25% of the black vote in the general. Aside from the usual caveats about early polls, a closer examination revealed that only 100 people in the poll sample were black. What’s the confidence interval of a sample that size? Something like +-25%? 😉

    I used to joke that the birthers were invented by the 9/11 truthers to make themselves look sane by comparison. Now I wonder whether Trump promoted birfing so heavily so that people wouldn’t notice as much how batguano insane his campaign is…

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    Dr. Conspiracy November 30, 2015 at 7:34 am #

    Report at BR:

    systemictreason: AMENDED PETITION for Mandamus to Stay Federal General Election filed by Petitioner Natural Born Citizen Party National Committee, et al.. [15-2379] (GA)
    11/24/2015 Filing fee was paid by Petitioner Natural Born Citizen Party National Committee, et al. Receipt number: 021861. [15-2379] (GA)

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2015/11/extra-obama-ineligibility-challenger.html#IDComment1005222187

    Now I thought that 15-2379 was a police report of a lost wallet at the University of Georgia last August, but they could be connected I guess.

    Levity aside, it’s an appeal before the U.S. Court of Appeals, First Circuit, filed November 17.

    This is their multi-state thing:

    Original filing
    Errata

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    bovril November 30, 2015 at 8:48 am #

    Alas, when questioned around his nonsensical piles of merde, Mr Strunk (for ’tis he) only ever responds with the bizarre phrase ‘whistle in the dark’.

    He seems to have issues when it gets pointed out to him that he is demanding courts provide him with remedies they have no power to grant, with a magical demand for dead cases to be miraculously resurrected and has made up a variety of imaginary ‘rules’ like the ‘Trump’ rule, the ‘Taitz’ rule, the ‘Barnett’ rule etc.

    He is very very speshul…..

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    bovril November 30, 2015 at 9:16 am #

    The bestest part of the 179 page dropping……Strunk seems to have neglected to have a section stating exactly what relief he is seeking of the court…… Possibly the court is supposed to read his mind…?

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    Notorial Dissent November 30, 2015 at 11:20 am #

    Chrissy Stunk would have to have mind for it to be read, and even that is beyond the purview of the courts. Just like all his legal fantasies.

  8. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy November 30, 2015 at 11:48 am #

    Remember those disrupted town hall meetings, where birthers railed against Obama’s eligibility? Well It looks like Cruz is getting some questions on the campaign trail.

    “On the campaign trail, voters ask Sen. Ted Cruz: Are you a natural-born citizen?”
    KGBT CBS 4 (Texas)

    http://valleycentral.com/news/local/on-the-campaign-trail-voters-ask-sen-ted-cruz-are-you-a-natural-born-citizen

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    Dr. Conspiracy November 30, 2015 at 5:11 pm #

    Birthers seem to thrive on bad news for the country, validating their view of Evil Obama destroying the country.

    I don’t know if this news is good or bad, but here are the Healthcare Marketplace sign-up numbers for the first 3 weeks in November:

    https://www.cms.gov/Newsroom/MediaReleaseDatabase/Fact-sheets/2015-Fact-sheets-items/2015-11-25.html

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    Dr. Conspiracy November 30, 2015 at 9:41 pm #

    There is a really long list of Obama Conspiracy Theories by Kelly La Rue over at Quora.com in answer to one of their questions, “Is the right wing theory true that Biden is planning to run with Barack Obama as his Vice President so Barack Obama holds power for 8 more years?”

    https://www.quora.com/Is-the-right-wing-theory-true-that-Biden-is-planning-to-run-with-Barack-Obama-as-his-Vice-President-so-Barack-Obama-holds-power-for-8-more-years

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    Dr. Conspiracy December 1, 2015 at 9:33 am #

    I’ve come across the concept of “moral panic” that sociologist Stanley Cohen describes as “A condition, episode, person or group of persons emerges to become defined as a threat to societal values and interests; its nature is presented in a stylized and stereotypical fashion by the mass media; the moral barricades are manned by editors, bishops, politicians and other right-thinking people; socially accredited experts pronounce their diagnoses and solutions; ways of coping are evolved or (more often) resorted to; the condition then disappears, submerges or deteriorates and becomes more visible.” Stanley Cohen, Folk Devils and Moral Panics, 3rd Ed. (Psychology Press, 2001). The folk devil can be an individual or a conspiracy. The 1950’s “red scare” fits the definition of moral panic preceding quite well. Obama seems to be the individual incarnation of the “folk devil.”

    The issue of Syrian refugees comes to mind as the most recent (of many) such moral panics.

  12. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 2, 2015 at 1:49 pm #

    The documentary, “Silenced” is available on Netflix and iTunes. It’s the story of some real-life NSA whistleblowers, including Thomas Drake, hired by Joe Arpaio to evaluate the fake NSA whistleblower Dennis Montgomery. It’s a riveting story.

    I hadn’t realized that the Thomas Drake, consultant to Arpaio, was the Thomas Drake that has appeared in several documentaries that I had seen. Now he has my attention.

    See also “Cybercrimes with Ben Hammersley” Season One, Episode “Surveillance,” and the two “Frontline: United States of Secrets” episodes, available on Netflix. The latter is available at PBS.org.

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    Reality Check December 3, 2015 at 10:49 am #

    I have a new blog post up that includes comments from Richard Skalsky who was incorrectly identified by Mike Zullo as “RC”, the owner of the Fogbow, an Obama operative, and a contractor for DARPA. Zullo was wrong on all counts of course.

    The incredibly inept Cold Case Posseman Mike Zullo goes hunting for Obamabots and finds DARPA (at the wrong web site)

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    bgansel9 December 3, 2015 at 11:46 am #

    Reality Check: I have a new blog post up

    RC, since you’ve been to May 2017, can you please tell me which horses win the next two Kentucky Derby races (as well as the 2016 Preakness and 2016 Belmont Stakes?) I’d like to make some bets. Much appreciated. 😛 (just kidding)..

    “I also found a similar comment on Birther Report/ORYR from May 28, 2017 left by “anonymous”. It listed the update domain registration for “fogbow.com”.” – might want to fix that. Just letting you know.

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    Arthur B. December 3, 2015 at 11:52 am #

    Reality Check: I have a new blog post up that includes comments from Richard Skalsky…

    It was interesting to read there that “a person named ‘Arthur B’ had contacted [Rick] just as I did.”

    I don’t believe that was me (though I do forget things from time to time!). I am not aware of another “Arthur B” posting on birther-related sites; there is someone who comments here as “Arthur.”

    Is there any way to track this down further?

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    Reality Check December 3, 2015 at 11:58 am #

    Thanks, It should have been 2011. Fixed.

    bgansel9: “I also found a similar comment on Birther Report/ORYR from May 28, 2017 left by “anonymous”. It listed the update domain registration for “fogbow.com”.” – might want to fix that. Just letting you know.

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    Reality Check December 3, 2015 at 12:21 pm #

    I could ask Mr. Skalsky. When he mentioned “Arthur B” you naturally came to mind.

    Arthur B.: It was interesting to read there that “a person named ‘Arthur B’ had contacted [Rick] just as I did.”

    I don’t believe that was me (though I do forget things from time to time!). I am not aware of another “Arthur B” posting on birther-related sites; there is someone who comments here as “Arthur.”

    Is there any way to track this down further?

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    Arthur B. December 3, 2015 at 1:03 pm #

    Reality Check: I could ask Mr. Skalsky. When he mentioned “Arthur B” you naturally came to mind.

    And, sure enough, I was wrong! Looking back I see that I did contact him after seeing him faux-outed at Dr. Kate’s. It was Jan. 14, 2011, and I sent him an email beginning:

    “Hey Rick —

    This is coming absolutely out of the blue, and I apologize.

    But I wanted to let you know that you have, apparently inadvertently, had your name invoked in an ugly political context…”

    A brief exchange followed.

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    Reality Check December 3, 2015 at 1:37 pm #

    Mr. Skalsky was appreciative that both of us would take the time to contact a total stranger and let him know he had been identified as someone else.

    I wonder if any apologies will be forthcoming from Mike Zullo, Carl Gallups, and Mike Volin all who ran with this misinformation and accused innocent persons of being involved in criminal actions?

    Arthur B.: And, sure enough, I was wrong! Looking back I see that I did contact him after seeing him faux-outed at Dr. Kate’s. It was Jan. 14, 2011, and I sent him an email beginning:

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    Dr. Conspiracy December 3, 2015 at 3:57 pm #

    Trump article at the Financial Times:

    Reclaim Republicanism for the conservatives

    Populist presidential candidate reflects lazy anti-government ideology, writes Peter Wehner:

    “It would be nice to chalk up his success to temporary insanity — an episode of Trumpmania that will end on its own. But a figure like Mr Trump does not appear ex nihilo. He is the product of certain intellectual and political habits that have taken hold over the years: a lazy anti-government ideology, prizing emotivism over empiricism, and conflict in pursuit of lost causes. ”

    The birth certificate is briefly mentioned.

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/23462a72-98e8-11e5-9228-87e603d47bdc.html#axzz3tHWgVcIr

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    Dr. Conspiracy December 3, 2015 at 4:41 pm #

    “they were compelled to documents related to the investigation. ”

    “It costars Arizona’s Maricopa County Sheriff Arpaio and te supporting cast…”

    Reality Check: I have a new blog post up that includes comments from Richard Skalsky

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    Keith December 3, 2015 at 4:56 pm #

    bgansel9: RC, since you’ve been to May 2017, can you please tell me which horses win the next two Kentucky Derby races (as well as the 2016 Preakness and 2016 Belmont Stakes?)I’d like to make some bets.Much appreciated. (just kidding)..

    “I also found a similar comment on Birther Report/ORYR from May 28, 2017 left by “anonymous”. It listed the update domain registration for “fogbow.com”.”–might want to fix that. Just letting you know.

    According to the Herald-Sun, Oprah will be in Melbourne Australia on Wednesday, December 2, 2105.

    Get your tickets early, I hear they are in extreme demand.

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    Pete December 3, 2015 at 7:19 pm #

    Reality Check: I wonder if any apologies will be forthcoming from Mike Zullo, Carl Gallups, and Mike Volin all who ran with this misinformation and accused innocent persons of being involved in criminal actions?

    No.

    Why would you even wonder? I mean, really.

    I know. It was a rhetorical “wondering,” not a real one.

  24. avatar
    Reality Check December 3, 2015 at 7:35 pm #

    Of course it was, with a huge dollop of sarcasm on top. 😉

    Pete: I know. It was a rhetorical “wondering,” not a real one.

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    Dr. Conspiracy December 3, 2015 at 9:12 pm #

    Zullo never admits to error. It’s what makes him not human.

    Reality Check: I wonder if any apologies will be forthcoming from Mike Zullo, Carl Gallups, and Mike Volin

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    Dr. Conspiracy December 3, 2015 at 11:59 pm #

    Love the graphic.

    Reality Check:
    I have a new blog post up that includes comments from Richard Skalsky who was incorrectly identified by Mike Zullo as “RC”, the owner of the Fogbow, an Obama operative, and a contractor for DARPA. Zullo was wrong on all counts of course.

    The incredibly inept Cold Case Posseman Mike Zullo goes hunting for Obamabots and finds DARPA (at the wrong web site)

  27. avatar
    Dave B. December 4, 2015 at 3:14 am #

    JB Williams being, well, JB Williams:
    http://www.capitolhilloutsider.com/ted-cruz-is-in-the-senate-illegally/

    That’s some serious dumbassery there.

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    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater December 4, 2015 at 10:12 am #

    Dave B.:
    JB Williams being, well, JB Williams:
    http://www.capitolhilloutsider.com/ted-cruz-is-in-the-senate-illegally/

    That’s some serious dumbassery there.

    Wow completely stupid. The whole the US used vattel for citizenship is taken as gospel in birther circles despite having no proof to support it.

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    Dr. Conspiracy December 4, 2015 at 5:55 pm #

    I get Google Alerts on “natural born citizen, ” “birther” and Obama+birth certificate. Just about every day I get a response either about Trump or Ted Cruz.

    Chris Matthews really lit into Trump over his birtherism, as reported by the Daily KOS:

    http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/12/3/1456672/-Chris-Matthews-slams-Donald-Trump-tells-supporters-You-should-be-ashamed

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    Dave B. December 4, 2015 at 6:06 pm #

    Then there’s that mess about “inhabitants,” which is so dumb it hurts.

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: http://www.capitolhilloutsider.com/ted-cruz-is-in-the-senate-illegally/

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    bob December 4, 2015 at 6:57 pm #

    Gallups, his son, and Mike Shoesmith “discussed” (read: wildly spun) the events of Arpaio’s contempt proceedings on today’s episode of “Freedom Friday.”

    There was no new information, but they repeatedly said Zullo’s testimony was vindicating, and they accused the judge of engaging in a conspiracy theory.

    Despite using many words to say nothing, I’m sure (most) birthers will be (mostly) pleased.

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    gorefan December 4, 2015 at 7:06 pm #

    bob: Gallups

    PPSimmons is linking Klayman’s brief.

    http://www.carlgallups.com/zullomotion12-2-15.pdf

    “The trampling of his rights should be over-turned and the use of his testimony, documents, and records vacated and any use prohibited. “

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    Dr. Conspiracy December 4, 2015 at 7:22 pm #

    I left the following comment, currently in moderation:

    “Cruz was born a US citizen because his mother was a US citizen meeting the residency requirements. These are undisputed historical facts and that is the evidence. Cruz doesn’t need a piece of paper to be a US citizen. He was born one by law.”

    “You might argue a legal theory under which he’s not eligible to be president, but not that he’s ineligible for the Senate. That’s just plain nonsense.”

    Dave B.: JB Williams being, well, JB Williams:

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    gorefan December 4, 2015 at 7:46 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: his mother was a US citizen

    Cruz’s father admitted that he became a Canadian citizen. So far no one has mentioned or provided evidence of his mother became a Canadian citizen.

    The Canadian Citizenship Law of 1947 did not require that the person renounce their prior citizenship.

    http://www.pier21.ca/research/immigration-history/canadian-citizenship-act-1947

    The 1952 McCarran-Walters Act does say that an American citizen losses their citizenship by naturalizing in another country (Chapter 3 Loss of Nationality Section 349 (a) (1)).

    Chapter 3 Loss of Nationality
    Sec. 349 (a) From and after the effective date of this Act a person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by –
    (1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application, upon an application filed in his behalf by a parent, guardian, or duly authorized agent, or through the naturalization of a parent having legal custody of such person

    So I guess it is a fair question to ask Cruz.

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    Dave B. December 4, 2015 at 11:08 pm #

    Somebody with some really wacky ideas about the law was insisting over at the Raw Story that issuance of proof-of-citizenship documents was a naturalization process and retroactively made a person a US citizen at birth. Pulled the “I’m a lawyer and you’re not” defense. Anyway, in the midst of a whole raft of stupidity, he said, in response to somebody posting a link to the Katyal/Clement article, that a law review article was “an article written by a law student that have no law degree, or license and has 0 legal baring other than to point judges and lawyers to areas of law that support the student’s opinion on how things should be.” So I directed him to Charles Gordon’s 1968 Maryland Law Review article on the natural born citizen clause, and pointed out that Katyal and Clement were two former US Solicitors General.
    At which point he pulled out his big guns: links to articles by Mario Apuzzo and Montgomery Blair Sibley.

    Dr. Conspiracy: Cruz doesn’t need a piece of paper to be a US citizen. He was born one by law.”

  36. avatar
    Lupin December 5, 2015 at 2:54 am #

    For your consideration:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-moyers/the-gop-on-the-eve-of-des_b_8711502.html

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    Lupin December 5, 2015 at 2:57 am #

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: Wow completely stupid.The whole the US used vattel for citizenship is taken as gospel in birther circles despite having no proof to support it.

    To be fair to JBW at least he is using Vattel correctly — in its 18th century version.

    What he doesn’t seem to grasp is that within 50 years Vattelist countries were already amending/updating the system, so why on Earth refuse to apply such notions to the US?

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    dunstvangeet December 5, 2015 at 3:10 am #

    gorefan, I just researched this for another person, who was making the claim that Obama was not a citizen due to him obtaining Indonesian CItizenship at the age of 6, and you might quote the entire act.

    You left out the following: “Provided that nationality shall not be lost by any person under this section as the result of the naturalization of a parent or parents while such person is under the age of twenty-one years, or as the result of a naturalization obtained on behalf of a person under twenty-one years of age by a parent, guardian, or duly authorized agent, unless such person shall fail to enter the United States to establish a permanent residence prior to his twenty-fifth birthday.”

    So, there are two problems with your analysis. First off, Cruz didn’t obtain Canadian Citizenship, he already had it. So, the fact that his father naturalized in Canada would not have triggered this act, as it wouldn’t have caused deritive citizenship to be issued to Cruz.

    And secondly, even if it did jeopardize it, it would have only taken effect on Cruz’s 25th Birthday, and only if Cruz didn’t return to the United States before then and establish a permanent residence.

    This is one of the areas that the Birthers go wrong with their analysis of Obama’s so-called Indonesian Citizenship.

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    Notorial Dissent December 5, 2015 at 4:10 am #

    The thing that they refuse to accept is that EVERY country has different and often incompatible citizenship and naturalization laws. I have heard that Cruz Sr was seeking Canadian citizenship at the time, I have never heard if he had ever acquired it. Would be irrelevant to Jr since HE WAS BORN THERE and at least at the time that was all that was necessary to be considered a citizen, so his parent’s putative citizenship at the time was irrelevant. IIRC Cuba does not allow for dual citizenship, and that they follow the standard of requiring those who might have it to decide at majority one or the other, Jr obviously did not affirmatively choose to become a Cuban citizen, at least as far as I can determine, and I am sure Cuba would have made a point of that if he had. So at most, at least to my way of thinking, he would have at most been a dual Canadian/US citizen after 21.

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    gorefan December 5, 2015 at 8:57 am #

    dunstvangeet:
    gorefan, I just researched this for another person, who was making the claim that Obama was not a citizen due to him obtaining Indonesian CItizenship at the age of 6, and you might quote the entire act.

    You left out the following: “Provided that nationality shall not be lost by any person under this section as the result of the naturalization of a parent or parents while such person is under the age of twenty-one years, or as the result of a naturalization obtained on behalf of a person under twenty-one years of age by a parent, guardian, or duly authorized agent, unless such person shall fail to enter the United States to establish a permanent residence prior to his twenty-fifth birthday.”

    So, there are two problems with your analysis.First off, Cruz didn’t obtain Canadian Citizenship, he already had it.So, the fact that his father naturalized in Canada would not have triggered this act, as it wouldn’t have caused deritive citizenship to be issued to Cruz.

    And secondly, even if it did jeopardize it, it would have only taken effect on Cruz’s 25th Birthday, and only if Cruz didn’t return to the United States before then and establish a permanent residence.

    This is one of the areas that the Birthers go wrong with their analysis of Obama’s so-called Indonesian Citizenship.

    I was not discussing Ted’s situation but his mother’s under 349(a)(1). If his mother naturalized as a Canadian citizen before his birth, then she would would lost her U.S. citizenship under 349 (a)(1). In that case Ted would only have acquired Canadian citizenship.

    We know the father naturalized Canadian but did the mother? If she did when?

  41. avatar
    gorefan December 5, 2015 at 10:58 am #

    Saw this article and thought the rest of us might enjoy it.

    http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/2015/12/03/festivus-christmas-flagstaff-school/76726004/

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    Dave B. December 5, 2015 at 3:25 pm #

    They posted yours, so I went all out.

    “This article is a pretty mixed-up mess.
    To begin with, the claim that there was a “total lack of vetting on Barack Hussein Obama in 2008 and 2012” is just plain silly. Obama was vetted by the same process as his opponents were, throughout the primary and general election campaigns. And Obama’s status as a natural born citizen, under REAL US law, has been established to an unprecedented extent by solid documentary evidence.

    The claim that Cruz “had once stated that both he and Barack Obama were ineligible for the Oval Office” is internet gossip.

    Putting aside the fact that the term “natural born citizen” comes to us not from Vattel, but by direct descent from the common law of England, the idea that the word “inhabitant” in the Constitution (comes from Vattel– no editing over there) is just plain absurd. The Constitution REQUIRES that a US Senator, “when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen.” You’re telling us an inhabitant is an “”illegal alien,” someone in our country and living under U.S. jurisdiction, without legally belonging to society.” On what planet is that supposed to make sense? Even then, your Vattel definition says an inhabitant is one “permitted to settle and stay in the country.” By what leap of logic does that become an “illegal alien”?

    You say,
    “Further, in any matter of law, authenticated evidence supersedes any and all politically motivated opinions, especially opinions which are either unfounded or poorly founded. Unlike Barack Hussein Obama who posted three forged U.S. Certifications of Live Birth and later a Hawaiian newspaper announcement of his birth to evidence his Oval Office eligibility, Ted Cruz issued his Canadian Birth Certificate as evidence of being “born a citizen of Canada.””
    Obama’s birth certificates HAVE been verified by the agency that issued them. Cruz’s birth certificate has never been verified or authenticated by ANYBODY.

    You go on,
    “The next piece of authenticated evidence released by Ted Cruz is a Canadian document proving that he remained a legal citizen of Canada until renouncing that citizenship in May of 2014, which means, he was still a legal citizen of Canada in 2012 when he ran for, was elected and took the oath of office for the US Senate.”
    Again, that “Canadian document” has never been authenticated by ANYBODY.

    You go on,
    “As a result of this damning evidence, the Cruz campaign hired friends at Harvard to issue a letter which makes a legal case for how Ted Cruz (and Barack Obama) might be a natural born Citizen of the United States eligible to seek the Oval Office.”
    You have proof that such a transaction took place? To what “letter” are you referring in the first place?

    You go on,
    “If the related conditions are met, a child born outside of the United States to one U.S. Citizen parent, in this case, Ted’s mother, the parents can file for and receive U.S. Citizenship for the child by filing a CRBA form with a U.S. Consulate at the time of birth.”
    US citizenship is acquired at birth when the requirements of the applicable statute are perfectly satisfied. There is no requirement to obtain a CRBA or any other proof-of-citizenship document. The State Department, which issues the CRBA, has no authority to naturalize and can’t make somebody a US citizen who is not one already:
    “When the State Department issues a CRBA it does not grant citizenship — it simply certifies that a person was a citizen at birth. Issuing or revoking a CRBA does not change the underlying circumstances of an individual’s birth and does not affect an individual’s citizenship status.” Hizam v. Kerry, 747 F.3d 102, 107 (2014).

    You go on,
    “The statutes governing this naturalization process state;
    “A child born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent or parents may acquire U.S. citizenship at birth if certain statutory requirements are met. The child’s parents should contact the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate to apply for a Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a Citizen of the United States of America (CRBA) to document that the child is a U.S. citizen. If the U.S. embassy or consulate determines that the child acquired U.S. citizenship at birth, a consular officer will approve the CRBA application and the Department of State will issue a CRBA, also called a Form FS-240, in the child’s name.””
    No, the statutes do NOT state that. A State Department information page states that. And it is NOT a naturalization process. Again, the State Department has no authority to naturalize. The SOLE naturalization authority in the United States is given to the Attorney General; the functions of naturalization have been transferred to the Department of Homeland Security.

    You appear to be under the impression that time spent abroad
    “Serving honorably in the U.S. armed forces;
    Employed with the U.S. government; or
    Employed with certain international organizations”
    is a REQUIREMENT for transmission of US citizenship. It is NOT. Time so spent can be considered as time spent in the United States for the purpose of satisfying that particular statute’s physical presence requirement. Congress made this provision so as not to penalize persons serving the United States abroad.

    You go on,
    “Unfortunately, there is no evidence to suggest that the parent or parents of Ted Cruz ever filed a CRBA form with the U.S. Government in or around 1970, which is why Ted Cruz released a copy of his Canadian citizenship records and not any U.S. citizenship records.”
    There is no evidence that no CRBA was acquired. And whether or not one was acquired is irrelevant to Cruz’s US citizenship. A person who acquires US citizenship at birth abroad to a US citizen parent can acquire other proof of citizenship; again, acquiring proof of citizenship no more makes a person a US citizen than acquiring proof of identity makes a person…that person.
    And how in the world would you know Cruz’s particular reason for doing what he did?

    You go on,
    “At present, all FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) requests filed in search of any U.S. citizenship documents to confirm the true official U.S. citizenship status of Ted Cruz have been denied access. All citizenship records for Ted Cruz are sealed unless and until Ted Cruz agrees to allow any such records to be released by either U.S. or Canadian agencies.”
    FOIA requests for ANYBODY’S personal records will be denied. That’s just the law. And the relevant agency of the United States controls access to those records according to law, not according to the whims of the subjects of the records.

    You go on,
    “On the basis of all available evidence today, Ted Cruz is in fact holding a seat in the U.S. Senate illegally, with no documented proof of legal U.S. citizenship whatsoever, and proof of Canadian citizenship between the years of birth in 1970 and May 2014.”
    There’s no AUTHENTICATED evidence either way. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
    I’ll reiterate: the article is a mixed-up mess, full of rumors, assumptions and bad law.”

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I left the following comment, currently in moderation:

    “Cruz was born a US citizen because his mother was a US citizen meeting the residency requirements. These are undisputed historical facts and that is the evidence. Cruz doesn’t need a piece of paper to be a US citizen. He was born one by law.”

    “You might argue a legal theory under which he’s not eligible to be president, but not that he’s ineligible for the Senate. That’s just plain nonsense.”

  43. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 5, 2015 at 7:53 pm #

    There seem to be a fair number of comments at BR today.

    Dr. Deb (aka Trumpster) says: “**Barack Obama is said to have asked during an earlier meeting regarding the San Bernardino terrorist attack how best they, “control the message on this.” Jarrett operatives have apparently already reached out to and continue to then remind supportive media figures to describe San Bernardino as a “shooting” and not connect it to Islamic terror.”

    JeffProv19_9 says: “Perhaps the dike is beginning to burst. And if it does, it will fail quickly and catastrophically. All my prayer warriors out there – please add FBI director Comey to your prayer list of people (Including A&Z) needing special
    empowerment, protection and direction from God Almighty, the King of Kings. ”

    William has given up on impeachment: “Impeachment trial? With 13 months to go? To steal the words of Hillary, at what point does this matter? It’s an impossible legal trajectory and null subject with congressional reps. “

  44. avatar
    Kate December 5, 2015 at 8:01 pm #

    On another website I saw a post about Sarah Palin’s new book and the bio that accompanies it on Amazon. Surprise, surprise, the bio is full of errors. It mentions Palin’s son, who is serving in the U.S. Army (he was discharged in 2010) and that she lives in Wasilla with her family and one grandson. Palin also has a granddaughter, Kayla, who is four years old. Wonder what the birthers would have to say about these mistakes? Of course we know they’d look at them and easily admit it was just done in error but only those who the RWNJ’s admire get to correct mistakes made about them. It will serve as a nice little comeback to those idiot birthers who still talk about the bio on President Obama from a publisher who never published a book of his.

  45. avatar
    Keith December 5, 2015 at 10:11 pm #

    I found an article that actually matches the topic title:

    On the reception and detection of pseudo-profound bullshit

  46. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 6, 2015 at 7:55 am #

    Carl Gallups said on his show Friday, and birthers are reporting, that Judge Snow threatened to arrest Zullo.

    Does anybody know any basis for that?

  47. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 6, 2015 at 8:29 am #

    I was just now reading the Plaintiff’s response in the Melendres case, https://www.scribd.com/doc/292204371/Melendres-1591-P-Response-to-Nov-18-Order, and perhaps for the first time I realized the stakes in this case, and why this very long and very expensive judicial proceeding is going on. There were a lot of victims. The report specifically gives the number of 190 listed individuals detained without cause, and then details why this actual tabulated number is, by my inference, just a drop in the bucket.

  48. avatar
    Reality Check December 6, 2015 at 9:48 am #

    I heard that also and I don’t think there is any basis for it. I think it was just Lyin’ Carl being Lyin’ Carl.

    Judge Snow bent over backwards to make sure that Mike Zullo’s rights against self incrimination were preserved even though Zullo was foolishly not represented by counsel.

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Carl Gallups said on his show Friday, and birthers are reporting, that Judge Snow threatened to arrest Zullo.

    Does anybody know any basis for that?

  49. avatar
    gorefan December 6, 2015 at 9:54 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Carl Gallups said on his show Friday, and birthers are reporting, that Judge Snow threatened to arrest Zullo.

    Does anybody know any basis for that?

    IMO, they are confusing arrest with referral for criminal charges. IIRC, Judge Snow said they might be non-parties who might be charged with criminal actions.

  50. avatar
    Keith December 6, 2015 at 1:01 pm #

    Keith: I found an article that actually matches the topic title:

    That study referenced in the article has also gotten an airing on HuffPo.

    Study Finds People Who Fall For Nonsense Inspirational Quotes Are Less Intelligent

  51. avatar
    Keith December 6, 2015 at 9:22 pm #

    Keith: Study Finds People Who Fall For Nonsense Inspirational Quotes Are Less Intelligent

    Hmmm. I think I’m working up to one of my annual blog entries.

    I am a regular reader of the WebComic “Pibgorn“. Brooke McEldowny is an excellent artist and has a great way of telling stories. He also does the comic strip “9 Chickwood Lane“. I quite enjoy them both.

    The Sunday edition of Pibgorn is (usually) taken over by a kind of pseudo inspirational quote from what he calls the “Demon’s Nest of Sentiments”. The current entry (6 December 2015) reads:

    Faith (noun): Belief unfettered by carbon dating.

    Historically, faith has been the fuel without which truth might never combust.

    Now the definition itself is rather amusing. Is McEldowney having a go at Creationists or Biologists? Hard to tell with out some history of his other ‘sentiments’ (and based on older writings I rather suspect he is having a go at Biologists here).

    But it is the second line that struck me. Total meaningless BullSh*t that fits exactly the definition used in the BullSh*t Report referenced above. (hopefully that sentence passes without moderation delay).

    I gotta be able to find material for a blog post out of that and hopefully avoid filling it with BullSh*t of my own. I also need to explore whether or not his intent is BullSh*t or if he thinks he is being ‘deep’ himself of course.

  52. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 6, 2015 at 10:16 pm #

    Hmmm, makes perfect sense to me. I take it to mean that if one plays it safe and only acts based on evidence, then risks aren’t taken and new discoveries (truth) do not happen.

    Keith: Historically, faith has been the fuel without which truth might never combust.

  53. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 6, 2015 at 10:26 pm #

    True story:

    A fellow I knew was an architecture student at Auburn University, and his class was divided into teams to do a project. This guy’s team felt that some of the things they were learning didn’t make a lot of sense, so they actually tried to come up with a project that they intended to be total bullsh*t. I remember the paper was on something they called “the Urban Fabric.” It piled bull on top of bull. They turned the paper in and got an excellent grade, and then the Chairman of the Department stopped by the class and praised the paper, saying that it had important implications for the future of teaching architecture at the University.

    Keith: I gotta be able to find material for a blog post out of that and hopefully avoid filling it with BullSh*t of my own.

  54. avatar
    Keith December 6, 2015 at 11:11 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Hmmm, makes perfect sense to me. I take it to mean that if one plays it safe and only acts based on evidence, then risks aren’t taken and new discoveries (truth) do not happen.

    Or given the ‘definition’ given before the phrase, might it also be talking about the ‘truth’ of Creationism? Thus faith is the fuel that keeps the truth of Creationism burning?

    Given my interpretation, the author could be still be saying two different things to two different audiences. The Creationist could find comfort and support for his faithful belief, while the Biologist could find humor and a subtle explanation for the Creationists problem with scientific thought.

    So the same words with one interpretation says two completely different things to two different audiences (and there are probably several other audiences that can get tied up in this too), neither of which is learning anything new or profound or useful.

    In short, it is pure unadulterated useless bullsh*t.

  55. avatar
    RanTalbott December 7, 2015 at 1:35 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: then the Chairman of the Department stopped by the class and praised the paper, saying that it had important implications for the future of teaching architecture at the University.

    Translation: We’re going to have to tighten up our screening so we don’t hire teachers who will fall for this sort of stuff 😛

  56. avatar
    bob December 7, 2015 at 2:46 pm #

    An appeal in the birther civil war (Berg’s case against Taitz) was argued today.

  57. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 7, 2015 at 6:26 pm #

    One man’s BS is another man’s desk ornament.

    Keith: In short, it is pure unadulterated useless bullsh*t.

  58. avatar
    Sef December 7, 2015 at 7:26 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    One man’s BS is another man’s desk ornament.

    Perhaps made as a result of the boys from MythBusters polishing episode.

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    One man’s BS is another man’s desk ornament.

  59. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 7, 2015 at 7:39 pm #

    The clock for this item for Falcon started yesterday, December 6:

    ★FALCON★: Who remembers when I said that whenever Obama speaks about terror to grab your balls and get under the building? I said that two weeks ago.

    Tonight is that night.

    I assure you there will be a catastrophic attack in the next two weeks to advance the Obama / NWO agenda.

    Merry Ramadan from the Obama White Hut.

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2015/12/birther-report-we-are-experiencing.html#IDComment1005918044

  60. avatar
    Rickey December 8, 2015 at 1:29 am #

    Keith: That study referenced in the article has also gotten an airing on HuffPo.

    Study Finds People Who Fall For Nonsense Inspirational Quotes Are Less Intelligent

    The same could be said for people who fall for nonsense political quotes – or it could just be intellectual laziness. With Google is takes just a few minutes to verify or debunk the authenticity of quotes.

  61. avatar
    RanTalbott December 8, 2015 at 7:28 am #

    Rickey: With Google is takes just a few minutes to verify or debunk the authenticity of quotes.

    Not so easy these days: the RW echo chamber has many walls, and it’s common to find scores of mindless repetitions of some bogus story or quote. And it seems like Google is a little like real life: the scum tends to rise to the top of the pond.

    Does anyone know of a Firefox plugin that will filter out Google results from a list of “avoid these” domains? It would also be really handy to avoid being inundated by online vendor pages when looking for technical info or product reviews.

  62. avatar
    Crustacean December 8, 2015 at 1:54 pm #

    Just the Maricopa County Mafia doing what they apparently do best: “It sure would be a shame if we didn’t get that $200k, and something terrible were to happen to your organization and the reputation of its president.”

    Dr. Conspiracy: Another allegation of retaliation by Sheriff Joe:

  63. avatar
    Jim December 8, 2015 at 2:11 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Another allegation of retaliation by Sheriff Joe:

    No biggie, another cool million of the taxpayer’s money down the drain.

    Note: They may want to add the misuse of RICO funds and the misuse of Federal grant money we learned about from the contempt hearing.

  64. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 8, 2015 at 4:07 pm #

    And true to pattern, when some bad news is coming out, Arpaio stages a press event, this time closing a puppy mill, in order to co-opt the news cycle. It didn’t work so well today on News 12.

    Dr. Conspiracy: Another allegation of retaliation by Sheriff Joe:

  65. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 8, 2015 at 4:11 pm #

    Firefox Options

    Greasemonkey Extension + Userscript (choice of 3)
    https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/greasemonkey/

    (1) Google Hit Hider (click Manage Hiding, then List Util, to access import feature)
    http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/95205
    UPDATE: http://www.jeffersonscher.com/gm/google-hit-hider/

    (2) Google Domain Blocker
    http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/33156
    UPDATE: https://github.com/pjobson/pjUserscripts

    (3) Google Search Filter Plus
    http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/39996
    UPDATE: http://userscripts-mirror.org/scripts/show/39996

    RanTalbott: Does anyone know of a Firefox plugin that will filter out Google results from a list of “avoid these” domains?

  66. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 8, 2015 at 6:57 pm #

    Birthers shows: It’s about Obama, not the Constitution.

    Commenter pvsys talks about a Trump/Cruz ticket. He says:

    “(3) Even with Cruz’s status called into question… newly elected President Trump will STILL conduct a full investigation of Obama’s identity–with shocking results. Very shocking results. And he’ll be able to (smugly) say that it was never a “natural born citizen” issue to begin with… instead… it was a fraud and identity theft issue all along–(“it’s the fraud, stupid”) leaving Cruz unscathed. (even if Cruz really does have issues here–it won’t matter because Obama’s identity fraud trumps all (pun intended)!)”

    but he ends up saying:

    “(personally, I don’t think that Cruz is a NBC, but I’m about ready to let this one go… so I think I could vote for Trump/Cruz)”

  67. avatar
    RanTalbott December 8, 2015 at 8:29 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: it won’t matter because Obama’s identity fraud trumps all (pun intended)!

    One of the weirdest beliefs of birthers is something you might call “Defendant Nullification”: once one person gets away with violating a law, it becomes null (or, at least, unenforceable). So, now that Obama has “set a precedent”, it’s no longer necessary to be an NBC to run for President.

    Almost as weird is that many of the same people who tell us we need to live in fear for the rest of our lives because “There’s no statute of limitations on treason” will insist that Congress is going along with the Universe-Shattering Fraud™ because they just need to get him “over the goal line” and out of office without a successful challenge in order to get away with it.

    I think they’re living proof that stupidity is not painful (although maybe that’s why they’re so grumpy and irritable all the time 😉 ).

  68. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 8, 2015 at 9:10 pm #

    I’m pretty much weirded out.

    RanTalbott: One of the weirdest beliefs of birthers …

  69. avatar
    Keith December 8, 2015 at 9:18 pm #

    I recall a few years ago when the T.E.A. Party was at its height of negativity and trying to take over the Republican agenda (which it appears they have succeeded at), they used an epithet against GOP member that wasn’t, along with them, somewhere to the right of Ghengis Khan on a bad hair day – they called them ‘RINO’ : Republican In Name Only.

    Well today I have a matching epithet for Donald Trump especially, but really any of his admirers or fellow travellers who are lining up to smash at the Constitution in ever more incendiary rhetoric:

    ‘AINO’ : American In Name Only.

  70. avatar
    chancery December 9, 2015 at 12:12 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    “No, Donald Trump won’t win” by David Brooks:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/opinion/no-donald-trump-wont-win.html?WT.mc_id=2015-DECEMBER-OUTBRAIN_AUD_DEV-1201-1231&WT.mc_ev=click&ad-keywords=AUDDEVREMARK&_r=0

    David Brooks’ fatuous attempts to pretend that the party he supports contains large numbers of thoughtful well-informed people have been ridiculous for a long time.

  71. avatar
    Lupin December 9, 2015 at 2:31 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    “No, Donald Trump won’t win” by David Brooks:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/opinion/no-donald-trump-wont-win.html?WT.mc_id=2015-DECEMBER-OUTBRAIN_AUD_DEV-1201-1231&WT.mc_ev=click&ad-keywords=AUDDEVREMARK&_r=0

    Considering Brooks’ record — akin to a compass pointing to the South — this scares me more than it reassures me.

  72. avatar
    Lupin December 9, 2015 at 2:32 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: Birthers shows: It’s about Obama, not the Constitution.

    I assume this does not come off as a surprise, right?

  73. avatar
    Lupin December 9, 2015 at 2:35 am #

    I find rereading Manchester’s DREAM & GLORY extremely reassuring, because if your country could survive nearly identical sh*tst*rms of right-wing hysteria in the 30s and 50s, well then, maybe it’ll survive this one too.

    On the other hand, Bush.

  74. avatar
    Lupin December 9, 2015 at 2:39 am #

    Keith: Well today I have a matching epithet for Donald Trump especially, but really any of his admirers or fellow travellers who are lining up to smash at the Constitution in ever more incendiary rhetoric:

    They’ve always been there; it’s just we were less aware of them (no internet, smarter media) or we’ve forgotten.

    OTOH, it has the (un?)intended effect of making the other Republican Candidates look positively mellow and rational by comparison.

  75. avatar
    RanTalbott December 9, 2015 at 4:03 am #

    Lupin: OTOH, it has the (un?)intended effect of making the other Republican Candidates look positively mellow and rational by comparison.

    Rachel Maddow did a segment on this very subject this evening.

    There’s a concept called “The Overton Window”. You set an axis with a continuum of values, such as “cost”, “liberal->conservative”, or “totalitarian->anarchistic”. The Overton Window is the range along that axis where proposals are considered “generally acceptable for discussion”. People may not be willing to implement ideas at every point within that window, but they’ll at least talk about them seriously, instead of dismissing them out of hand as “too xxx“.

    If you want to do something outside the window, one way to get it considered is to find people to make proposals that are wa-a-a-y beyond the limit, so your idea sounds less loony by comparison. The theory is that this widens the window a little bit, so your proposal becomes “discussable”.

    Maddow theorized that maybe this was intended to widen the window for some not-quite-so-nuts idea, and that Trump put it out himself because previous outrages hadn’t harmed him, so he didn’t need a sacrificial loon to get clobbered in the process.

    She also had another theory: that Trump doesn’t actually want the grueling job of being president, just the ego boost of running. So, having discovered that he might actually win the nomination, he’s trying to sabotage his campaign so he doesn’t have to risk either the tedium of victory or the humiliation of defeat.

  76. avatar
    The Magic M (not logged in) December 9, 2015 at 4:22 am #

    RanTalbott: Maddow theorized that maybe this was intended to widen the window for some not-quite-so-nuts idea

    Welcome to the club. I said this right away when Trump started his campaign. 😉

    RanTalbott: She also had another theory: that Trump doesn’t actually want the grueling job of being president, just the ego boost of running.

    2/2. Though I must admit I didn’t think Trump would actually run until the last moment.

    However if this really were the strategy, it’s quite dangerous. The people supporting Trump may not be willing to support another candidate if Trump pulls out.
    So right now my tendency is to do a 180 and claim that Trump is actually going to want to be the nominee (the GOP can’t risk not nominating him when he’s in the lead and running as a third-party candidate, or simply too many people using him as a write-in) – they need every vote if they want to have a chance at defeating Hillary. If he’s still ahead when the primaries come, nobody’s really sure if the current polls are in any way representative of the actual primaries, and nobody knows what happens when some candidates pull out (e.g. if everyone but Cruz pulls out, I bet most of their followers’ votes would go to Cruz).

    Lupin: OTOH, it has the (un?)intended effect of making the other Republican Candidates look positively mellow and rational by comparison.

    If that was the intent, it seriously backfired; in that hypothetical, because they underestimated how popular his crazy opinions would be.

  77. avatar
    roadburner December 9, 2015 at 5:35 am #

    i’m still convinced that if trump doesn’t get the nomination, he’ll dump his agreement with the GOP and run as an independent.

    he’s been getting a lot of publicity and he’s loving it, plus he’s egotistical enough to look at not getting the nomination as some kind of insult.

  78. avatar
    Notorial Dissent December 9, 2015 at 6:26 am #

    Regrettably, I think you are right, la Rump has a lot of ego tied up in this now, and whatever happens he will take it personally.

    roadburner:
    i’m still convinced that if trump doesn’t get the nomination, he’ll dump his agreement with the GOP and run as an independent.

    he’s been getting a lot of publicity and he’s loving it, plus he’s egotistical enough to look at not getting the nomination as some kind of insult.

  79. avatar
    RanTalbott December 9, 2015 at 6:28 am #

    The Magic M (not logged in): nobody’s really sure if the current polls are in any way representative of the actual primaries

    They just about never are: Brooks’ rug analogy is right on for normal situations. I said the same thing back in the summer. But the big question is whether this year’s GOP voters actually will start to “think practical” as voting day approaches. There are hints that they may not: there’s a lot of fear and anger out there, and it might be enough to keep Trump afloat for a while. If the next week or so of polling don’t show him taking a hit from his “Ban the Moooslims” idea, I’d say it’s strong enough to let him do some more serious damage before he crashes.

  80. avatar
    RanTalbott December 9, 2015 at 6:55 am #

    Lupin: OTOH, it has the (un?)intended effect of making the other Republican Candidates look positively mellow and rational by comparison.

    Actually, that’s not entirely the case: it’s also had the effect of dragging some of them toward the fringe. This hurt Romney in 2012 by creating a trail of statements made to pander to the base during the primaries that were used against him in the general. Some of the pundits earlier in the year were anticipating (with glee or dread, depending on their personal politics) that Trump would do the same thing to this year’s nominee.

    I haven’t noticed a lot of that so far, but it wouldn’t surprise me to find out that Clinton’s team have been accumulating a trove of stuff I overlooked.

    One thing that might turn out to be big is the tapdancing the Cruz campaign is doing: they’re steadfastly refusing to criticize Trump personally for his Muslim Madness plan, and the strongest statement they’re willing to make is “I disagree with the proposal”. Not even a “This is completely unacceptable in America”. That has excellent sound bite potential.

  81. avatar
    Dave B. December 9, 2015 at 11:50 am #

    He’s been taking it personally ever since that White House Correspondents’ Dinner.

    Notorial Dissent:
    Regrettably, I think you are right, la Rump has a lot of ego tied up in this now, and whatever happens he will take it personally.

  82. avatar
    Keith December 9, 2015 at 12:46 pm #

    Dave B.:
    He’s been taking it personally ever since that White House Correspondents’ Dinner.

    Yeah, good point.

  83. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 9, 2015 at 1:07 pm #

    Alan Grayson’s “Technically, (Ted Cruz) is not even an American” got a “Pants on fire” rating from Politifact.com yesterday:

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/dec/08/alan-grayson/grayson-wrongly-says-cruz-not-american/

  84. avatar
    Notorial Dissent December 9, 2015 at 5:26 pm #

    He’s officially made the threat by the way.

    Dave B.:
    He’s been taking it personally ever since that White House Correspondents’ Dinner.

  85. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 9, 2015 at 10:16 pm #

    I am aware of the problem that commenters not logged in are having posting comments, receiving a spurious “Error: please fill the required fields (name, email) error.” The quick fix is for you to create an account, see the Login link under the Site Info menu up top. This seems to be related to the installation of WordPress 4.4 today.

    I will be doing some testing, so if the blog looks screwy, that is the reason.

    Update: WOW, that was screwy!

  86. avatar
    RanTalbott December 10, 2015 at 12:33 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: I am aware of the problem that commenters not logged in are having posting comments, receiving a spurious “Error: please fill the required fields (name, email) error.” The quick fix is for you to create an account, see the Login link under the Site Info menu up top.

    I’ve had problems for years with not being able to post when my login has timed out: trying to enter my ID when prompted doesn’t work. I just login again and refresh the page, and the problem goes away.

  87. avatar
    RanTalbott December 10, 2015 at 12:53 am #

    Notorial Dissent: He’s officially made the threat by the way.

    Not the first time: just more blatant than usual.

    What’s astonishing is that he doesn’t see the utter stupidity of citing that poll that says 2/3 of his supporters would follow him out of the GOP.

    Right now, he’s got the support of about 1/3 of the 28% who identify as “Republicans”, or 8-9% of the general electorate. If 2/3 of them follow him, that’s about 6%. In order to succeed, he’d have to get a slice of the Democrats and independents that he can’t even muster in his own party.

    The man is innumerate.

  88. avatar
    The Magic M December 10, 2015 at 2:09 am #

    What I don’t get is why Zullo doesn’t just tell his birfer followers that he has to wait with the release until Trump has clinched the Presidency. That will get him another year of delay plus the bonus that it’s unlikely Trump will win, and of course birthers will “understand” there is no chance to take down Obama once Hillary’s in the White House.

  89. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 10, 2015 at 2:15 am #

    It makes more sense if it’s a negotiating tactic–either give me the nomination, or I’ll run third party and the the GOP nominee won’t get elected. Trump could be saying, “It’s me or you lose.”

    BTW, Bernie Sanders won the Mock Election at Western Indiana University. The Republican Nominee was Bush.

    RanTalbott: What’s astonishing is that he doesn’t see the utter stupidity of citing that poll that says 2/3 of his supporters would follow him out of the GOP.

  90. avatar
    RanTalbott December 10, 2015 at 2:17 am #

    The Magic M: What I don’t get is why Zullo doesn’t just tell his birfer followers that he has to wait with the release until Trump has clinched the Presidency.

    Some of his fans have suggested that, and it doesn’t go over very well. Remember that a good-sized chunk of birfoons believe that we’re already in the end times, that the U.S. has turned into a Third World banana republic, and Obama is going to false-flag himself into a permanent dictatorship. They don’t buy “Wait for Trump” because they think there won’t be a 2016 election unless A/Z manage to wake up Congress and get Obama impeached.

  91. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 10, 2015 at 2:55 am #

    Sounds familiar:

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama-may-cancel-2012-elections-dr-jerome-corsi-reports.html

    RanTalbott: They don’t buy “Wait for Trump” because they think there won’t be a 2016 election unless A/Z manage to wake up Congress and get Obama impeached.

  92. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 10, 2015 at 2:57 am #

    This appears to be an incompatibility between the OpenID plug-in 3.4.0 and WordPress 4.4. I have disabled the OpenID plug-in. If anybody actually uses this thing, let me know.

    Dr. Conspiracy: I am aware of the problem that commenters not logged in are having posting comments, receiving a spurious “Error: please fill the required fields (name, email) error.”

  93. avatar
    The Magic M (not logged in) December 10, 2015 at 4:12 am #

    RanTalbott: They don’t buy “Wait for Trump” because they think there won’t be a 2016 election

    They’ve been buying a lot (including their own speculations about an “October surprise” before both the 2011 and the 2014 elections), so why not that?

  94. avatar
    Reality Check December 10, 2015 at 8:19 am #

    I would be glad to see OpenID gone for good. It seems to randomly ask me for my WordPress.com password but you can’t just directly enter it. I have to go to my WordPress account using another link and then it asks me if I want to post the comment. It’s just cumbersome.

    Dr. Conspiracy: I have disabled the OpenID plug-in. If anybody actually uses this thing, let me know.

  95. avatar
    Reality Check December 10, 2015 at 8:35 am #

    Back during the 2012 election cycle when Corsi was riding around on Romney’s press plane we exchanged a few emails. I think I was chiding him about the Xerox evidence destroying his Birther experts claims of forgery. On August 3, 2012 he sent me the following email:

    11 days and counting.

    Well August 14 came and went but nothing happened. Remember that Corsi had previously said that there was going to be an “October surprise” and that they “were creating evidence”.

    I poked him later about the blown prediction but Corsi never replied. It was kind of like March and the Universe Shattering evidence, another great flatulence in a hurricane.

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Sounds familiar:

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama-may-cancel-2012-elections-dr-jerome-corsi-reports.html

  96. avatar
    W. Kevin Vicklund December 10, 2015 at 12:34 pm #

    Reality Check: I think I was chiding him about the Xerox evidence destroying his Birther experts claims of forgery.

    Couldn’t be, the Xerox evidence didn’t come out until 2013. Could have been some of the early pdf experts (real experts).

  97. avatar
    Reality Check December 10, 2015 at 3:02 pm #

    Yes, you are correct. I went back and looked at the emails. It was over the goof on the race codes in the second CCP press conference.

    W. Kevin Vicklund: Couldn’t be, the Xerox evidence didn’t come out until 2013.Could have been some of the early pdf experts (real experts).

  98. avatar
    Steve December 10, 2015 at 3:13 pm #

    Our old pal Susan DeLemus is back.

  99. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 10, 2015 at 3:27 pm #

    I think that’s called “the dog in the manger.”

    Dr. Conspiracy: –either give me the nomination, or I’ll run third party and the the GOP nominee won’t get elected.

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    Dr. Conspiracy December 10, 2015 at 3:39 pm #

    PolitiFact takes on the really old fake Obama Columbia photo ID:

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/dec/09/facebook-posts/facebook-posts-still-claim-obama-wasnt-born-us/

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    bob December 10, 2015 at 4:21 pm #

    A whole mess of “I vote for Cody Robert Judy” branded merch, to stuff in your favorite birther’s stocking.

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    justlw December 10, 2015 at 4:55 pm #

    It turns out that Trump’s “coalition of African American Evangelical pastors and religious leaders” included a familiar name. Any guesses?

    …yup.

    [Harlem Pastor James] Manning is certainly no stranger to political incorrectness. Over the years he has made headlines for large signs in front of his church, Atlah World Missionary Church. One declared “Jesus would stone homos.” Another described Obama as “a Taliban Muslim illegally elected president.”

    Manning’s birther views make him an odd ambassador for Trump’s charm offensive in the black community. Obama is extremely popular among African-Americans, and the conspiracy theories about the president’s origins have been thoroughly debunked. However, Manning said it was Trump’s support for this fringe movement that “cemented” his admiration for the candidate.

    “He was the biggest birther that we had. He had the biggest voice, the biggest bully pulpit,” Manning said.

    Trump hasn’t discussed Obama’s birthplace during his current presidential campaign. But Manning is confident Trump hasn’t given up on the issue and is only lying low because he “has not forgotten the heat that he has taken.”

    “Once Trump gets into — sits down in that Oval Office, there ain’t no telling what he will reveal about Obama,” Manning explained, adding, “I’m saying, well, let’s play the long game on this. Let’s all play the long game.”

    Donald Trump has a plan to win ‘100 percent’ of the black vote and prove he’s not a racist, Yahoo! Politics

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    Dr. Conspiracy December 10, 2015 at 6:38 pm #

    Due to a bug in WordPress 4.4, tomorrow’s post appeared early. It’s gone now, but should be back at midnight Eastern Time.

  104. avatar
    CRJ December 10, 2015 at 6:39 pm #

    @Doc [Something has bothered me from the start..]
    I know that feeling! Hey Congrats on the 7 year itch, 4,000 Articles Holy Shout! What’s been bothering us is a lack of Justice in this matter for which my Formal Complaint Stands to the State Department.

    Dear Attorney General Loretta Lynch :

    God bless your nomination with the Eye of the Almighty God in the name of Faithful and True Justice for All.

    May I pour out my heart to you for comfort and may I be excused for my weaknesses in the Law, my speech, and writing and May you also be blessed in understanding me.

    I am a poor man. . below poverty, yet I do exists very humbly.

    COMPLAINT #1 Equality to access Justice.

    U.S. Supreme Court Case 14-9396
    My Case Motion for Forma Pauperis DENIED during the same 12 month calendar year the [Form] was good for. It was GRANTED in U.S. DISTRICT Court Utah Division as well 10th Circuit of Appeals.

    SCOTUS Denied my Required Motion for Forma Pauperis for Cert. It was NOT Denied due to Rule 39.8. Frivolous and Excessive Filings.

    This is a grave injustice in [Access to the Courts ] and I suspect a foul Clerical Error that has permeated the Court for reasons void of Justice but for which I am unequipped to even ask in clarification for.

    I cannot confirm with multiple Clerks nor Comprehend or Ascertain the Grievance at this high level.

    As a matter of UNFINISHED business I had a Motion to Recuse Justice Sotomayor and Justice Kagan Oct. 29, 2015 returned which was based on the APPLICATION FOR STAY ON THE EXTENSION OF TIME PENDING A FULL REVIEW OF RECUSAL OF JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR AND JUSTICE KAGAN submitted July 25, 2015, returned. That Application [July 25] was received by the Court, never returned, and never Docketed.

    If the SCOTUS Docket can be doctored, the Case for an Abuse of Power in Accessing Justice can be credibly made. The Media can only report what’s Docketed. Free Press is denied in an obstruction of Justice.

    Sincerely,
    Cody Robert Judy
    Presidential Candidate 2016
    2012, 2008.

    http://www.codyjudy.us
    http://www.codyjudy.blogspot.com

    P.S. IF the Government has learned, uncovered, found, or come into contact with any information in Melendres v. Arpaio ARIZONA Judge Snow (re: COLD CASE POSSEE Findings) beneficial or of interest to my Certiorari 14-9396 I pray the Government might assist or appoint as circumstances warrant a Special Prosecutor to assist my Case to the U.S. Supreme Court nothing of discovery being withheld to obstruct Justice.

    CRJ

    This of course serves all of us I hope in not only making the Docket of the U.S. Supreme Court more transparent, but also in providing equal and secure access to the Courts.

    It also serves NOTICE that the Government through the State Department should not become liable for [obstruction of justice] in anything overturned or found under a rock in [Melendez v. Arpaio] ie. The Cold Case Possee which the State Department and Judge Snow may for any reason not have divulged to the General Public in that particular matter we find of interest due to no other particular interest of any other case with Standing.

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    Notorial Dissent December 10, 2015 at 7:19 pm #

    Well, Judy is whining again, not sure to who or why, which is nothing unusual. I’m not sure if he knows the difference between the State Department and the Justice Departments, but again nothing unusual for such a top drawer presidential candidate. Why he thinks Justice would have anything to do with Supreme Court rules or court administration is beyond me, but then he really doesn’t understand how gov’t works so I guess par for the course. I guess he still hasn’t figured out that the Supreme Court gets to make its own rules and procedures independent of what the lower courts do. Poor bunny.

  106. avatar
    John Reilly December 10, 2015 at 11:43 pm #

    I think Mr. Judy left out telling the Attorney General that Mr. Judy is a convicted terrorist who threatened to blow up a room full of people attending a church service.

  107. avatar
    bob December 10, 2015 at 11:49 pm #

    CRJ:
    My Case Motion for Forma Pauperis DENIED during the same 12 month calendar year the [Form] was good for.It was GRANTED in U.S. DISTRICT Court Utah Division as well 10th Circuit of Appeals.

    So? SCOTUS is not bound by the lower court’s rulings; that’s the whole point of an appeal.

    This is a grave injustice in [Access to the Courts ]

    Judy just whines, but he fails to show any actual injustice.

    I suspect a foul Clerical Error

    Again, no evidence to support his fantasies.

    As a matter of UNFINISHED business I had a Motion to Recuse Justice Sotomayor and Justice Kagan Oct. 29, 2015

    What part of “considered closed” as of October 8 is unclear?

    If the SCOTUS Docket can be doctored

    * * *

    IF the Government has learned, uncovered, found, or come into contact with any information in Melendres v. Arpaio ARIZONA Judge Snow (re: COLD CASE POSSEE Findings) beneficial or of interest to my Certiorari 14-9396

    Those “if”‘s are doing all of the work.

    I hope Judy will not be too surprised when this missive, like almost* everything he does, is ignored.

    * Almost: When Judy terrorized thousands, people noticed. Hopefully Judy’s terrorism days are behind him.

    It also serves NOTICE that the Government through the State Department should not become liable for [obstruction of justice] in anything overturned or found under a rock in [Melendez v. Arpaio]

    The govern surely will give the notice its due, i.e., none.

    The Cold Case Possee which the State Department and Judge Snow may for any reason not have divulged to the General Public in that particular matter we find of interest due to no other particular interest of any other case with Standing.

    The federal government generally (and Judge Snow specifically) doesn’t have a duty to disclose to the public anything about Zullo’s pretend investigation.

    The MSCO, Arpaio, and Zullo, on the other hand, were obligated to disclose what they knew to the plaintiffs (and, in certain instances, the monitor). Should they have failed in this duty, they will likely be looking a criminal contempt, criminal charges, or both.

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    CRJ December 11, 2015 at 2:13 am #

    U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch served as the chief of the Long Island office and worked on several political corruption cases involving the government of Brookhaven, New York. From 1998 to 1999

    She has a reputation for taking on bullys who perhaps think they are above the Law.

    In 1999, she was nominated by President Bill Clinton to serve as the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of New York. During her term as U.S. Attorney, Lynch oversaw prosecution of New York City police officers in the Abner Louima case.

    Following the July 2014 death of Eric Garner, an unarmed man who died after being held in a department-prohibited chokehold by a New York City police officer, Lynch agreed to meet with Garner’s family to discuss possible [federal prosecution] of the officer believed to be responsible in his death.

    She has a reputation of bi partisanship Prosecution . Perhaps being concerned with Justice for All.

    Lynch’s office prosecuted [Republican] congressman Michael Grimm; prosecuted [Democratic politicians] Pedro Espada Jr. and William Boyland, Jr.;

    She’s not afraid of “To BIG TO FAIL”

    She investigated Citigroup over mortgage securities sold by the bank, resulting in a US$7 billion settlement; and was involved in the US$1.2 billion settlement with HSBC over violations of the Bank Secrecy Act.

    I am really impressed by her and I like being impressed by people.

    @John Reilly [I think Mr. Judy left out telling the Attorney General that Mr. Judy is a convicted ..]

    Well, that’s where your wrong. I was not convicted of [terrorism]. That would have only been a 5 year sentence.

    Also if you had read the Certiorari of 14-9396 which I referenced clearly, you would also know I did tell her as I go into quite a bit of detail of “why” or “for what reasons” I believed the Lower Courts may have had “motive operandi” to discombobulate Justice.

    I thought you guys would be excited about this hoping that [Time Served] didn’t mean a life long prosecution for as Bob noticed standing up in a religious meeting and calling for hypocrites to Repent shouldn’t be prosecuted based on Religious Freedom.

    No.. Evidence produced no weapon unless you want to call the B.O.M. a weapon. (Book of Mormon) and yes, most Mormons do believe it’s real., even if you don’t.

    @Bob [The federal government generally (and Judge Snow specifically) doesn’t have a duty to disclose to the public anything about Zullo’s pretend investigation.]

    The Government cannot hide or keep secret any thing that may contribute or commission Crime unless they want to be a party to it in obstruction of Justice. That seems something the Attorney General has fought long and hard against her whole career.

    You know that your sense of Justice and Equality, Access to Justice, stinks to high heaven, if you think that once convicted you know longer have any rights to the Constitution, or rights to Justice.

    Our U.S. Constitution reads quite differently. While men might not measure up to the Law, the Law in a Republic still stands.

    Amendment 15 the right to vote shall not be Denide on account of prior servitude.. Race, or Color.

    Discriminating against that makes for every bit a racism charge as you can get. Are you racist here?

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    bob December 11, 2015 at 2:57 am #

    CRJ:
    Well, that’s where your wrong. I was not convicted of [terrorism].

    Judy was convicted of aggravated burglary. Based on his act of terrorizing thousands.

    I believed the Lower Courts may have had “motive operandi” to discombobulate Justice.

    Judy believes wrong because the district court found his suit to be frivolous, and the appellate court agreed.

    Bob noticed standing up in a religious meeting and calling for hypocrites to Repent shouldn’t be prosecuted based on Religious Freedom.

    I never said that; more importantly, that’s not what Judy did: Judy held thousands hostage by threatening that he had an explosive device.

    Evidence produced no weapon unless you want to call the B.O.M. a weapon.

    Judy wielded more than a book; he continues to lie about his actions.

    The Government cannot hide or keep secret any thing that may contribute or commission Crime unless they want to be a party to it in obstruction of Justice.

    Judy’s familiarity with the law is about as familiar with reality, as the government keeps all kinds of secrets. Regardless, it is the MCSO, Arpaio, Zullo, Montgomery, etc., that ought to be concerned about being prosecuted.

    You know that your sense of Justice and Equality, Access to Justice, stinks to high heaven, if you think that once convicted you know longer have any rights to the Constitution, or rights to Justice.

    Judy’s mindreading fails him, as I don’t believe any of those things.

    Judy has more than his share of justice and access; he just doesn’t like the results.

    Discriminating against that makes for every bit a racism charge as you can get. Are you racist here?

    Prison time is not servitude. And it profoundly offensive for Judy to compare innate qualities to the punishment he justly received for his actions.

    And Judy falsely calls me a racist for thinking lying unrepentant felons ought be called for being lying unrepentant felons. Isn’t there a commandment against lying?

    More importantly, how despicable for him to play the victim while he denies all those he victimized.

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    Lupin December 11, 2015 at 4:26 am #

    CRJ: Well, that’s where your wrong. I was not convicted of [terrorism]. That would have only been a 5 year sentence.

    Maybe not, but what you did was pretty despicable, and you appear to exhibit no remorse whatsoever. You simply show no awareness or understanding that what you did was criminal — or in simpler words, evil. Instead, you continue to portray yourself as a victim, wrapped in words of self-righteousness.

    I just finished watching JESSICA JONES on Netflix, and David Tennant’s utterly brilliant portrayal of the narcissistic sociopath Killgrave, who just does not understand that what he did to Jessica was utterly wrong, and sees himself as her victim, is something that — on a much grander scale — echoes your own behavior here.

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    Notorial Dissent December 11, 2015 at 6:04 am #

    I think Judy should thank whatever lucky stars he has, not many obviously, that he pulled his stupid and despicable stunt five years ago, today he most likely would be facing a terrorism charge, and rightly so I think. A pitiful excuse for a human being. Cody Judy, failed terrorist, failed pretend candidate, failed litigator, failed human being. Cody Judy – FAILED. I think that pretty well sums it up now that I think about it.

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    roadburner December 11, 2015 at 7:44 am #

    ok, so i’ve not beenpaying close attention to trump on a personal level, but just realised something

    his mother was scottish, so doesn’t that cause a bit of a problem for the birfoons who are currently fawning over him?

    i was under the impression they didn’t like presidents to have either parent not being NBC

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    RanTalbott December 11, 2015 at 8:15 am #

    roadburner: i was under the impression they didn’t like presidents to have either parent not being NBC

    Only the looniest. Most are okay because she was naturalized before he was born.

    Allegedly. 😈

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    CRJ December 11, 2015 at 10:23 am #

    Haha haha @Bob the racist thinks “prior servitude” is your prior servitude at the soup kitchen. Lol haha [Judy held thousands hostage by threatening that he had an explosive device.] @bob is a racist and a liar. [Judy falsely calls me a racist for thinking lying unrepentant felons ought be called for being lying unrepentant felons. ]

    @Bob still has not read my book [TAKING A STAND The Conservative Independent Voice. ]

    Unless, of course you consider singing “We Thank Oh God for a Prophet”, cries and screams of terror.. Haha haha. And what was the motive operandi to Judy’s Religious Meeting?

    Surely he asked for silver or gold or at least some cash maybe? Nope?

    Like 5:32 “I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance” @Bob a perfect example of the scribes and Pharisees Luke 5:21

    @Notorial Dissent [ he pulled his stupid and despicable stunt five years ago,]

    You see Notorial Dissent has not read it either and also is a liar as @Bob defines not telling the Truth a Liar.

    This happened 22 years ago.. Lol haha Guess that pulls ole @Bob ‘s pants down and shows everyone that @Bob really truly loves the sin of just a continual racist bigoted discrimination.

    @Doc wrote an article about me gosh, has it been year or so ago now Doc ? It was called Second Chance not a Good Idea 💡.. Something like that.

    Anyway.. Hebrews 2:17 make reconciliation for the sins of the People refers much in charging that their Judgements are wrong or in other words not forgiving as Gods.

    To continually harbor and stir resentments about sins is to be unforgiving and this is un-Christ like, or anti-Christ. We should not heap upon ourselves unrighteousness nor wallow in sins of this type of hypocritical judgement because it will lead to a real painful spiritual death.

    Please don’t think I do not love you as my brothers and sisters in Christ. I do. If I did not I would not call your atrocious behaviors and representations on the carpet.

    Your very wicked @Bob , and perverted in very un-Christ like behavior. Repent and Change before you are wrapped up so tight in these atrocities that you are lost in them.

    You know what I am saying is true. It cuts you to the core and you do not perceive it as Love. . However GOD knows it is and if you resist more you shall be lost into a eternal damnation of which you will find no joy.

    Now, let us act like brothers and forgive one another our trespasses as we would like God to forgive us ours?

    Truly, the Repentant has joy and his sins are forgotten. . they are not accused daily in a devilish tromping and stomping?

    If no unclean thing can enter the Kingdom of Heaven, how is it that you can not see that you yourselves are also given a Second Chance to wash yourselves clean and leave your sins and filthy clothes behind?

    What I did was recognise the Truth in your words but you have refused the Truth in mine. Yes, I plead guilty for 3 days , even as Christ died and went to the Spirit Prison to teach those who would believe redemption was possible through his Atonement with the Eternal Father 3 days. We are charged to look for truth. .even kernels.

    However, after the 3 days, he came and took up his body into incorruption and a higher Glory. I myself have suffered many sins needing to pour out my heart to God for forgiveness.

    Calling people who God loves to Repentance by his own Spirit in Church is not one of those sins. I should never regret the great call and shout for my God in Church. For to do so would also be to regret the very love God has offered and shown to me.

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    Lupin December 11, 2015 at 10:31 am #

    CRJ: Yes, I plead guilty for 3 days , even as Christ died and went to the Spirit Prison to teach those who would believe redemption was possible through his Atonement with the Eternal Father.

    You may have pleaded “guilty” because you had no other practical choice, but I see no signs of repentance, humility and understanding of your evil acts in any of your posts here — only more unwarranted pride and self-righteousness.

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    CRJ December 11, 2015 at 10:33 am #

    @Lupin that’s because you haven’t read my book either, and truth be told, you are caught up in yourself even as you accuse.

    To assume I had no other choices is a very foolish and childish assumption. Every accused has choices in our Courts and the Record shows a withdraw of the guilty plea but shows a Bishop acting as a District Court Judge refusing that Motion.

    That sin is now his to bear.,

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    Lupin December 11, 2015 at 10:34 am #

    RanTalbott: Only the looniest. Most are okay because she was naturalized before he was born.

    Allegedly.

    But since she had not renounced her UK citizenship, Trump was born with potential dual citizenship at birth, just like Obama, and had he chosen to do so, he could have acquired UK citizenship later.

    That the Gerbils casually dismiss this, yet harp on Obama’s parentage, is another sign of their blatant racism.

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    Lupin December 11, 2015 at 10:36 am #

    CRJ:
    @Lupin that’s because you haven’t read my book either, and truth be told, you are caught up in yourself even as you accuse.

    I don’t need to read your book to see that you show no remorse whatsoever about your actions.

    Like most bad people, you spend an awful lot of time coming up with self-justifications. That’s not repentance, that’s hubris.

  119. avatar
    CRJ December 11, 2015 at 10:43 am #

    @Lupin What remorse does a prophet have in calling a people to repentance? What remorse does a man have in following God’s commandments?

    What property damage? What injury? What lives were lost? What weapons?

    Zero! To say otherwise is DILUSIONAL and paranoid exposing the accusers as mentally unfit.

    To back the point up why don’t you ask the Media Channel 4 about the 10K they spent trying to get EVIDENCE of the Videotape of the whole thing denied to the defendant but used by the prosecution and parole board against the Law.

    Shall I ask for forgiveness that they chose to prosecute even after all this was known and understood in a ten minute disruption of a meeting where hymns were sung?

    Your sick in the head if you think the State should come into the Church dictating terms. Really sick!

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    Lupin December 11, 2015 at 10:54 am #

    CRJ:
    @Lupin What remorse does a prophet have in calling a people to repentance? What remorse does a man have in following God’s commandments?

    What property damage? What injury? What lives were lost? What weapons?

    Zero! To say otherwise is DILUSIONAL and paranoid exposing the accusers as mentally unfit.

    Shall I ask for forgiveness that they chose to prosecute even after all this was known and understood in a ten minute disruption of a meeting where hymns were sung?

    Your sick in the head if you think the State should come into the Church dictating terms. Really sick!

    You threatened people, you scared them, you hurt them. You’re a bad guy. That much is clear.

    Your victims are the ones who must forgive you, if you show regret, but obviously, you don’t. Your very words condemn you.

    Saying (in effect): “I spoke to God and #1 I did nothing wrong, and #2 he forgave me!” only makes you sound like Bart Simpson.

    But you don’t see this, of course, because you’re still a bad guy.

  121. avatar
    CRJ December 11, 2015 at 11:41 am #

    Please don’t think I am upset at the path God has given me, because I am not. I have only glorified my Father-in-Heaven in my suffering and deprivations the extremes I do pray you never have to go through, but of which you will the more you mock me.

    Yes, even what I have suffered will come to you at an hour you think not. And then you will know me very clearly.

    For those of you who are Mormon and defend their Faith, Theocracy of sorts in my prosecution and perhaps you should ALL convert as you do their work in the devils workshop, here is just a BRILLANT scripture found in the B.O.M. Ch. 12.

    [And thus we can behold how false, and also the unsteadiness of the hearts of the children of men; yea, we can see that the Lord in his great infinite goodness doth prosper those who put their trust in him.

    Yea, and we may see at the very time when he doth prosper his people, yea, in the increase of their fields, their flocks and herds and in gold , and in silver, and in all manner of precious things of every kind and art; sparing their lives, and delivering them out of the hands of their enemies, softening the hearts ❤ of their enemies that they should not declare wars against them; yea, and in fine doing all things for the welfare and happiness of his people; yea, then is the time that they do harden their hearts, and do forget the Lord their God, and do trample under their feet the Holy One- yea, and this because of their ease, and their exceedingly great prosperity.

    And thus we see that except the Lord doth chasten his people with many afflictions , yea, except he doth visit them with death and with terror , and with famine, and with pestilence , they will not remember him.

    O how foolish, and how vain, and how evil, and how devilish, and how quick to do iniquity , and how slow to do good, are the children of men , yea, how quick to hearken to the evil one, and to set their hearts upon the vain things of this world!

    Yea, how quick to be lifted up in pride; yea, how quick to boast, and do all manner of that which is iniquity; and how slow are they to remember the Lord their God, and to give ear to his counsels, yea, how slow to walk in wisdom’s paths!

    Behold, they do not desire that the Lord their God , who hath created them, should rule and reign over them ; notwithstanding his great goodness and his mercy towards them , they do set at naught his counsels, and they will not that he should be their guide. ]

    Now, really I don’t think you have to be Mormon, as I am not, to see the wisdom in those words. I do think every Christain could see the wisdom in those words if his or her heart were set straight and open to receive it as truth.

    And for these many reasons at Times the Lord will send a voice calling for Repentance and it usually is very clear and does not mince words.

    And when the words are not heeded, those things that were protections begin to fall down. . and real terrorism begins as the Lord does not soften the hearts of enemies but begins to allow terror, deny the rains, let in the famines, and take back the prosperity he had so merciful given.

    And what is the root cause of these? Bad Judgements. . and to what Standard are good and bad judgements made In the USA?

    The Supreme Law of the Land our U.S. Constitution.

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    SFJEFF December 11, 2015 at 12:44 pm #

    I didn’t realize that CRJ was a dangerous nut- and somehow missed all of this when it was first brought up years ago

    Judy was sentenced to up to 15 years in prison for charging the Marriott Center stage at BYU on Feb. 7, 1993, with what he said was a bomb. In front of 17,000 people, Judy ordered President Howard W. Hunter, then president of the Quorum of the Twelve of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, to read a letter declaring Judy the next prophet. Hunter refused to read the letter, and Judy was eventually subdued by audience members. The “bomb” turned out to be some books and a radio.

    “I meant no harm to anyone. I am just doing exactly what the Lord has commanded me,” Cody Robert Judy, 27, told the Deseret News in an interview from his jail cell Monday.Utah County prosecutors Tuesday charged Judy with kidnapping, a second-degree felony; aggravated assault, a third-degree felony; and assault, a class B misdemeanor

    Judy said his motive Sunday night was to have Howard W. Hunter, president of the Council of the Twelve of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, read a three-page letter that released the Twelve Apostles and the First Presidency of the church and confirmed Judy as president of the church.

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    CRJ December 11, 2015 at 12:46 pm #

    @SF JEFF [I can’t keep myself away from the series so far.]
    @ Lupin [But you don’t see this, of course, because you’re still a bad guy.]

    You know what?

    Isaiah 5:20 ” Woe into them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter. ”

    In today’s world, I think being called a “bad guy” is probably much better then being called a “good guy”. 😊

    You may have remembered when Moses went to the Lord and said, ‘Listen, these guys want to stone my ass’? (bad guy) Or when the Jewish Leaders exacting law to a degree that Jesus Christ was considered a malefactor? (bad guy).

    It is , SMH that I see that stupid comes in every color. . but every heart ❤ is unique.

    I mean the company I keep are my friends and I do hope you consider that the actions of many large P Prophets, and even the Savior Jesus Christ, didn’t go down the pipes well of the People.

    History of course is 20/20 and your own judgements will condemn you or they will exhalt you. This life is so short though and so important I humbly have no problem requesting that you examine yourselves and your Records very closely and present them to God and if they be good you shall have great joy, 😂 and if they are bad maybe you can give me a high-five. ✋

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    SFJEFF December 11, 2015 at 12:49 pm #

    I ventured onto Judy’s website…….wow…..

    “Obama has not shown me the equal respect of the law in the race we ran together. He cheated and is ineligible.”

    ‘the race’ they ran together?

    LOL

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    CRJ December 11, 2015 at 1:04 pm #

    @SFJEFF [‘the race’ they ran together?]

    Yes, that’s a reference to the 2012 Presidential Race Obama and I ran as [Democrats] together.

    He wasn’t a Constitutionally qualified Candidate not being a [ natural born Citizen] or a [Citizen] of any State at the Time of the Adoption of Constitution.

    Of course my Ballot Challenges to this affect are my Record in the State Supreme Courts of New Hampshire and Georgia as well the U.S. Supreme Court 12-5276 and 14-9396.

    Yes, he did not respect the Constitution , but with his own actions in the Office that now comes as no surprise.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ITCr420K4i8

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    CRJ December 11, 2015 at 1:45 pm #

    I’ve noticed something here today. It really had not dawned on me before, (perhaps that is because I myself have such a good nature to forgive others of their past mistakes against me), but it seems that most , (maybe all), here connect my not getting my Forma Pauperis Motion granted based on my Felony 22 years ago?

    Everyone here knows and realizes that the Federal Court Form asks for a Calendar Year of information.

    Everyone here knows that the District Court Utah Division granted that July 2014, as well the 10th Circuit did.

    Everyone knows the SCOTUS Denied the Motion.

    Everyone knows if denide because of Rule 39.8 it is Noticed by the Court.

    Yet., it seems no one objects to this other than to say the SCOTUS does not have to honor the decisions of the Lower Court.

    You see, on this matter I think the SCOTUS does have to based on not only their adaptations to clarify denials of Forma Pauperis by Rule 39.8 but by the common math problem which is told, or is seen as either incompetent , dealing in infirmity, or disability, or simply corrupt.

    5 -3=2 That is a COMMON given. That logic and reasoning is a Standard of Soundness.

    However, what I’ve noticed is whenever that is brought up comments began flying about a totally different event that happened 22 years ago.

    Now if my connection is right here, we are seeing a great injustice actually supported here. An injustice that borders on an insanity; an infirm disability, evan an unresolved grudge or what you’d call a good old fashion witch hunt that is attempting to connect two dots into straight line for justification and call it Reasonable.

    It’s not reasonable for me to confiscate your life savings over a parking ticket you paid is it? But that’s similar to @Bob’s representation here.

    One thing I’ve always respected about Doc here was his attraction to bring grounded. I’ve really never taken Doc to be flighty.

    That really amounts to my respect towards him and I’m not saying he cares, but I do think that is why do many people like Doc.

    So, what does it say to everyone here understanding facts , and math, and a very simple common Standard that the SCOTUS can not figure?

    It should say CORRUPTION , UNFAIRNESS, INFIRMNESS, that none of you support.

    Why don’t you?

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    SFJEFF December 11, 2015 at 1:54 pm #

    CRJ:
    @SF JEFF [I can’t keep myself away from the series so far.]
    @ Lupin [But you don’t see this, of course, because you’re still a bad guy.]

    You know what?

    Isaiah 5:20 ” Woe into them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter. ”

    In today’s world, I think being called a “bad guy” is probably much better then being called a “good guy”.

    You may have remembered when Moses went to the Lord and said, ‘Listen, these guys want to stone my ass’? (bad guy) Or when the Jewish Leaders exacting law to a degree that Jesus Christ was considered a malefactor? (bad guy).

    It is , SMH that I see that stupid comes in every color. . but every heart is unique.

    I mean the company I keep are my friends and I do hope you consider that the actions of many large P Prophets, and even the Savior Jesus Christ, didn’t go down the pipes well of the People.

    History of course is 20/20 and your own judgements will condemn you or they will exhalt you. This life is so short though and so important I humbly have no problem requesting that you examine yourselves and your Records very closely and present them to God and if they be good you shall have great joy, and if they are bad maybe you can give me a high-five.

    I remember when Jim Jones was convinced that God was telling him what to do.

    And how that ended.

  128. avatar
    SFJEFF December 11, 2015 at 1:55 pm #

    CRJ:
    @SFJEFF [‘the race’ they ran together?]

    Yes, that’s a reference to the 2012 Presidential Race Obama and I ran as [Democrats] together.

    He wasn’t a Constitutionally qualified Candidate not being a [ natural born Citizen] or a [Citizen] of any State at the Time of the Adoption of Constitution.

    Of course my Ballot Challenges to this affect are my Record in the State Supreme Courts of New Hampshire and Georgia as well the U.S. Supreme Court 12-5276 and 14-9396.

    Yes, he did not respect the Constitution , but with his own actions in the Office that now comes as no surprise.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ITCr420K4i8

    Which ballots were you on?

  129. avatar
    SFJEFF December 11, 2015 at 1:58 pm #

    CRJ:
    I’ve noticed something here today. It really had not dawned on me before, (perhaps that is because I myself have such a good nature to forgive others of their past mistakes against me), but it seems that most , (maybe all), here connect my not getting my Forma Pauperis Motion granted based on my Felony 22 years ago?

    Everyone here knows and realizes that the Federal Court Form asks for a Calendar Year of information.

    Everyone here knows that the District Court Utah Division granted that July 2014, as well the 10th Circuit did.

    Everyone knows the SCOTUS Denied the Motion.

    Everyone knows if denide because of Rule 39.8 it is Noticed by the Court.

    Yet., it seems no one objects to this other than to say the SCOTUS does not have to honor the decisions of the Lower Court.

    You see, on this matter I think the SCOTUS does have to based on not only their adaptations to clarify denials of Forma Pauperis by Rule 39.8 but by the common math problem which is told, or is seen as either incompetent , dealing in infirmity, or disability, or simply corrupt.

    5 -3=2 That is a COMMON given. That logic and reasoning is a Standard of Soundness.

    However, what I’ve noticed is whenever that is brought up comments began flying about a totally different event that happened 22 years ago.

    Now if my connection is right here, we are seeing a great injustice actually supported here. An injustice that borders on an insanity; an infirm disability, evan an unresolved grudge or what you’d call a good old fashion witch hunt that is attempting to connect two dots into straight line for justification and call it Reasonable.

    It’s not reasonable for me to confiscate your life savings over a parking ticket you paid is it? But that’s similar to @Bob’s representation here.

    One thing I’ve always respected about Doc here was his attraction to bring grounded. I’ve really never taken Doc to be flighty.

    That really amounts to my respect towards him and I’m not saying he cares, but I do think that is why do many people like Doc.

    So, what does it say to everyone here understanding facts , and math, and a very simple common Standard that the SCOTUS can not figure?

    It should say CORRUPTION , UNFAIRNESS, INFIRMNESS, that none of you support.

    Why don’t you?

    Because you come off as a total loon.

    I don’t bother to read large blocks of text beyond the first sentence or two when it doesn’t pass my ‘does this sound rational’ smell test

    And yours doesn’t.

  130. avatar
    SFJEFF December 11, 2015 at 2:07 pm #

    It is fascinating to watch the Far Right on the whole Birther issue.

    Those who beat their chests and proclaim that they are not Birthers want to convince everyone that Birtherism is all HIlary’s devilish machinations- in which case I love to point out that would mean that Hilary is manipulating all of these conservative Birthers….which they would all be horrified by the thought of.

    Then Conservatives want to blame all liberals for Grayson’s Birtherism……in which case I love to point out that Trump has said the same thing as Grayson.

    And speaking of Trump- he is playing the right wing whacko’s and racists like Jimmy Hendrix played the guitar.

    These far right whacko’s believe the crap coming out of Trump’s mouth and blindly ignore everything Trump has said or done prior to this election cycle.

    Trump is no ‘Conservative’- he is an opportunist playing to the dregs of the GOP- and they lap it up. He is probably the most liberal of all of the GOP candidates in reality- based upon his life history(not his rhetoric) and they ignore all of it.

    I keep saying- Trump is the candidate the GOP deserves.

  131. avatar
    bob December 11, 2015 at 2:08 pm #

    CRJ:
    Haha haha @Bob the racist thinks “prior servitude” is your prior servitude at the soup kitchen.

    Judy yet again put words in my mouth that I never said when he actually compared his well-earned prison sentence to actual slavery.

    Judy’s repeated false, baseless accusations of racism is decidedly un-Christlike.

    @bob is a racist and a liar.

    More lies from Judy that he cannot substantiate.

    @Bob still has not read my book

    I don’t need to read Judy’s book to know that he is a horrible person and a horrible writer; his screeds here alone prove that. But I have no doubt that what Judy wrote is an insult to actual books.

    Unless, of course you consider singing “We Thank Oh God for a Prophet”, cries and screams of terror.. Haha haha. And what was the motive operandi to Judy’s Religious Meeting?

    “Counselor,” it is modus operandi; I don’t know if Judy had a method of operation or if it was one-off when he threatened thousands by claiming he had an explosive device.

    Like 5:32 “I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance” @Bob a perfect example of the scribes and Pharisees Luke 5:21

    Says Judy, the unrepentant sinner.

    @Bob really truly loves the sin of just a continual racist bigoted discrimination.

    Say Judy, the continual unrepentant, lying felon who terrorized thousands.

    To continually harbor and stir resentments about sins is to be unforgiving and this is un-Christ like, or anti-Christ.

    Says Judy, who condemned one of his actual victims to Hell.

    If I did not I would not call your atrocious behaviors and representations on the carpet.

    Judy should read Matthews 7:3-5.

    Your very wicked @Bob , and perverted in very un-Christ like behavior. Repent and Change before you are wrapped up so tight in these atrocities that you are lost in them.

    Judy calls me wicked because I disapprove of his actual wickedness that he continues to not acknowledge.

    You know what I am saying is true. It cuts you to the core and you do not perceive it as Love. . However GOD knows it is and if you resist more you shall be lost into a eternal damnation of which you will find no joy.

    Judy’s sanctimonious piousness is unconvincing as everything else he does.

    Now, let us act like brothers and forgive one another our trespasses as we would like God to forgive us ours?

    Judy should lead by example.

    What I did was recognise the Truth in your words but you have refused the Truth in mine.

    Judy has yet to showed that I’ve lied about anything. Or that Judy has told the truth about anything.

    Yes, I plead guilty for 3 days

    Judy comparing himself to Christ is, among other things, incredibly offensive.

    CRJ:
    Every accused has choices in our Courts and the Record shows a withdraw of the guilty plea but shows a Bishop acting as a District Court Judge refusing that Motion.

    Judy fails to show that the court’s denial of his motion was not based on the laws and the facts, but rather on the judge’s religion.

    That sin is now his to bear.

    Yet more evidence that Judy continues to refuse accept responsibility for his actions.

    CRJ:
    @Lupin What remorse does a prophet have in calling a people to repentance? What remorse does a man have in following God’s commandments?

    Judy’s neither a prophet nor was his following any commandments.

    What injury?

    The terror inflicted on thousands; that’s the nature of terrorism.

    To say otherwise is DILUSIONAL and paranoid exposing the accusers as mentally unfit.

    Oh, the irony.

    To back the point up why don’t you ask the Media Channel 4 about the 10K they spent trying to get EVIDENCE of the Videotape of the whole thing denied to the defendant but used by the prosecution and parole board against the Law.

    Again, it everybody’s fault but Judy’s.

    Shall I ask for forgiveness that they chose to prosecute even after all this was known and understood in a ten minute disruption of a meeting where hymns were sung?

    Judy continues to lie (apparently even to himself) about his actions. Judy omits the part about him in a packed building claiming to have an explosive device.

    Your sick in the head if you think the State should come into the Church dictating terms.

    No one buy Judy suggested the state should do that. The state should, however, protect people from cowards claiming to have explosive devices.

    CRJ:
    I have only glorified my Father-in-Heaven in my suffering and deprivations the extremes I do pray you never have to go through, but of which you will the more you mock me.

    Judy glorifies nothing: He shames himself and his former church has disavowed him; Judy serves only himself. Judy is not just an extremist, he’s a religious extremist.

    CRJ:
    In today’s world, I think being called a “bad guy” is probably much better then being called a “good guy”.

    What Judy thinks is wrong, but have no doubt: Judy is one of the bad guys.

    CRJ:
    Yes, that’s a reference to the 2012 Presidential Race Obama and I ran as [Democrats] together.

    There was no “running together.” Judy appeared on no ballot, and there is no evidence that anyone voted for him in 2008.

    He wasn’t a Constitutionally qualified Candidate not being a [ natural born Citizen] or a [Citizen] of any State at the Time of the Adoption of Constitution.

    A dozen court cases — and reality — indicate otherwise.

    Of course my Ballot Challenges to this affect are my Record in the State Supreme Courts of New Hampshire and Georgia as well the U.S. Supreme Court 12-5276 and 14-9396.

    All losers, like Judy.

  132. avatar
    CRJ December 11, 2015 at 2:18 pm #

    @Bob [I have no doubt that what Judy wrote is an insult to actual books.]

    I’m going to let you have that one 😊 haha Ignorance is Bliss. I’m afraid if you read it you would feel very bad and your eyeballs would roll around backwards in your head.

  133. avatar
    bob December 11, 2015 at 3:00 pm #

    CRJ:
    Ignorance is Bliss.

    And I’m thankful for that ignorance.

    I’m afraid if you read it you would feel very bad and your eyeballs would roll around backwards in your head.

    I agree: reading Judy’s attempt to write a book does sound like a painful experience. Reading Judy’s attempt to write comments here is painful enough.

    But Judy need not fear for anyone’s eyes: others here have read it and negatively reviewed it. That, couple with Judy’s “product” here is sufficient for me to conclude that it isn’t worth my time (or brain cells that would die trying to decipher Judy’s mangling on the English language).

  134. avatar
    CRJ December 11, 2015 at 3:00 pm #

    @Bob [Says Judy, who condemned one of his actual victims to Hell.]

    Actually I certainly wouldn’t want anyone to go to Hell, nor did I condemn one of the brothers I was trying to help to Hell.

    That kind of Judgement I’m certainly not worthy of. Rather, it was Revealed to me his choices as a Lawyer and a Religeous Leader that were conditioned on anti Christ as well un Constitutional condition had caused his circumstances of Eons of Hell. Something I had never before that Revelation even comprehended.

    I shared that with you as a Eternal Interest out of love Bob.

    Now, learn something if you are a Christian , take it not for granted as you have stated I am not a prophet. I am, and if you are a Christian you cannot deny I am, unless you are Anti Christ denying the Gospel.

    Revelations 19: 10 “..for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophesy.”

    Why I do say Jesus has been, is, and will also yet come I am a prophet for Jesus Christ.

    I don’t believe many have seen Jesus Christ , but I have on several occasions. My testimony is not one of belief, but one of a sure knowledge I could never deny.

    I have been around his Love and plainly I tell you it is magnificent and miraculous. The circumstances I confess are the most difficult to find words for. To say I am not least whys able to present myself as similar is indeed an understatement. I have no greater love in my heart than what he placed there with such gifts. They are indeed my greatest treasures.

    I do know of many experiences of the bad who have passed on, and their desire to get into his presents and their not being able to do so is a terrible conviction and restriction.

    Therefore my brothers and sisters , seek first the welfare of your soul and care less about the trouble of this life. Encourage one another.

    For any offenses I humble beg your pardon.

  135. avatar
    bob December 11, 2015 at 3:19 pm #

    CRJ:
    Actually I certainly wouldn’t want anyone to go to Hell, nor did I condemn one of the brothers I was trying to help to Hell.

    * * *

    Rather, it was Revealed to me his choices as a Lawyer and a Religeous Leader that were conditioned on anti Christ as well un Constitutional condition had caused his circumstances of Eons of Hell.

    Judy said — and continues to say — that Hunter (his principle victim) is in hell because Hunter dared to assist in Judy’s prosecution. Judy said it, and Judy deserves to be judged for saying it.

    I shared that with you as a Eternal Interest out of love Bob.

    If Judy is actually has “Eternal Interests,” he should start by being honest about his past actions.

    I don’t believe many have seen Jesus Christ , but I have on several occasions.

    Did Jesus tell Judy to terrorize thousands by claiming that he an explosive device?

    Now, learn something if you are a Christian , take it not for granted as you have stated I am not a prophet. I am, and if you are a Christian you cannot deny I am, unless you are Anti Christ denying the Gospel.

    I am (an) (the) “Anti Christ” for stating that Judy is not a prophet; or: Judy needs to seek medical help.

  136. avatar
    bob December 11, 2015 at 3:31 pm #

    Principal. (Apologies to the homonym police.)

  137. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 11, 2015 at 5:05 pm #

    Trump is playing the media like Jimmy Hendrix played the guitar. Why is Trump leading when he’s spending next to nothing on his campaign?

    SFJEFF: And speaking of Trump- he is playing the right wing whacko’s and racists like Jimmy Hendrix played the guitar.

  138. avatar
    Crustacean December 11, 2015 at 5:06 pm #

    Yes! He plays them with his mouth, and at the end of the performance, they all get burned.

    SFJEFF: And speaking of Trump- he is playing the right wing whacko’s and racists like Jimmy Hendrix played the guitar.

  139. avatar
    justlw December 11, 2015 at 7:23 pm #

    Another Trump-related Birther Resurrection:

    CNN interviewed a group of Trump supporters yesterday, and the star of the show turned out to be one Susan DeLemus, chyroned as a “Trump Supporter”.

    Clip from CNN: Trump Supporter

    I didn’t recognize the name, but she is of course State Legislator Susan DeLemus, key participant in the meltdown after the New Hampshire Ballot Law Commission rejected Orly’s attempt to have Obama taken off the 2011 primary ballot:

    Reps Behaving Badly

    Apparently she’s on CNN “go to” list for Trump lovefests. Here she is from back in July; the highlight of this clip has to be her not-at-all-crazy laugh at 1:10.

    “We need a hero in the White House”

    Oh, and a bonus loon connection — note in the previous video the fellow with the same last name, Jerry DeLemus. That’s her husband, who flew drove out to support Cliven Bundy.

    There’s a chance we might not come home… we will fight, we will die, if the government tries to oppress the Bundys.

    (source article:
    CNN’s Trump Superfan Was A Dangerous Birther, Married To Bundy Militia Man, Addicting Info)

  140. avatar
    justlw December 11, 2015 at 7:30 pm #

    Hmm, the edit function appeared to create a second post? Feel free to delete the first.

  141. avatar
    RanTalbott December 11, 2015 at 8:09 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: Why is Trump leading when he’s spending next to nothing on his campaign?

    Because:
    a. he gets more ink and airtime for free than all the campaigns and superPACs combined can afford to buy, and
    b. he’s a master con artist, who’s selling his followers exactly what they’ve been dying to buy.

    In any given population, there’s a substantial segment who believes that there are simple solutions to complex problems. In today’s GOP base, that segment is close to 100%. Trump tells them they’re right, that he knows what those simple solutions are, and that he’s so personally wonderful that he can make them happen. So he gets nearly all of that group, while the dozen or so others fight to get small chunks of the rest. Except for Cruz, who’s trying capture the base while not appearing as stupid as Trump so he can also appeal to those who still have functional cerebral cortices.

  142. avatar
    Dave B. December 11, 2015 at 8:42 pm #

    Like I tell the birthers, the first step in telling somebody what to think is telling them what they think they want to hear.

    RanTalbott: he’s a master con artist, who’s selling his followers exactly what they’ve been dying to buy.

  143. avatar
    Rickey December 11, 2015 at 9:23 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Trump is playing the media like Jimmy Hendrix played the guitar. Why is Trump leading when he’s spending next to nothing on his campaign?

    Media Matters reports that in the six months ending on 11/30/15 Fox News devoted twice as much time to covering Trump as any other Republican candidate.

    With that amount of exposure, why spend money on commercials?

  144. avatar
    RanTalbott December 11, 2015 at 9:53 pm #

    Rickey: Media Matters reports that in the six months ending on 11/30/15 Fox News devoted twice as much time to covering Trump as any other Republican candidate.

    And that article appears to define “coverage” only as “personal appearances”: I doubt seriously that they’ve spent less than 21 hours talking about him in the last 6 months plus.

    Of course, that difference extends to every media outlet, not just Faux News: they all love sound bites, and Trump is like a walking, breathing blooper reel.

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    gorefan December 11, 2015 at 10:52 pm #

    Another Zullo update on Gallups’ show. Nothing new.

    http://ppsimmons.blogspot.com/2015/12/universe-shattering-now-you-are.html

    They are desperately trying to spin Zullo’s failure on the stand as vindication of some sort.

  146. avatar
    gorefan December 11, 2015 at 11:08 pm #

    At 11:40, Gallups claims Monty turned over to DOJ over 600 million private records of individuals. But IMO he is confusing the claimed 600 million documents on 47 hard drives that Klayman gave to the FBI.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?ebc=ANyPxKp7yrkvyY20s6LQfZIXTQs7KvecEwPKPbZZUAE9UGjZAqNmrLZgpDaN6gBhiQlqCITUPrgza_LkCiBgd2GMmjB7v4Vhfg&v=sed_Jcbth5I

  147. avatar
    Rickey December 11, 2015 at 11:22 pm #

    gorefan:
    At 11:40, Gallups claims Monty turned over to DOJ over 600 million private records of individuals.But IMO he is confusing the claimed 600 million documents on 47 hard drives that Klayman gave to the FBI.

    600 million private records? That would be pretty good, considering that there are only about 320 million people in the United States.

  148. avatar
    Keith December 11, 2015 at 11:28 pm #

    Crustacean: Yes! He plays them with his mouth, and at the end of the performance, they all get burned.

    I see what you did there 😎

  149. avatar
    Rickey December 11, 2015 at 11:33 pm #

    RanTalbott: And that article appears to define “coverage” only as “personal appearances”: I doubt seriously that they’ve spent less than 21 hours talking about him in the last 6 months plus.

    Thanks. I should have been more clear about that.

    Of course, that difference extends to every media outlet, not just Faux News: they all love sound bites, and Trump is like a walking, breathing blooper reel.

    Yes, but Faux News is where Trump supporters get their news.

    Regarding Trump’s recent rise in the polls, it should be noted that it exactly mirrors Carson’s decline. In the new CNN/NY Times poll Trump went from 22% in October to 35% now, but at the same time Carson plunged from 26% to 13%. It’s highly likely that most of Trump’s new supporters are people who became disenchanted with Carson. Combined they had the support of 48% of Republicans in October and they have the support of 48% of Republicans today.

    Things will get really interesting if Trump carries Iowa, New Hampshire and Georgia.

  150. avatar
    Dave B. December 12, 2015 at 12:56 pm #

    Nelson Hultberg finds a whole mess of acorns and still manages to prove he’s just another blind hog:
    http://www.newswithviews.com/Hultberg/nelson111.htm
    My favorite part is his second “document expert” video. Little Albert’s all grown up now!

  151. avatar
    Reality Check December 12, 2015 at 1:58 pm #

    I went to Renshaw’s video. He has added a note that he now “redacts” everything he said 4 years ago. I think he meant “retracts”. Could it be? A Birther “expert” actually admitted he was wrong? Note: Ran Talbott and others had been hammering him with the Xerox evidence in the comments. 😉

    Dave B.:
    Nelson Hultberg finds a whole mess of acorns and still manages to prove he’s just another blind hog:
    http://www.newswithviews.com/Hultberg/nelson111.htm
    My favorite part is his second “document expert” video.Little Albert’s all grown up now!

  152. avatar
    Dave B. December 12, 2015 at 2:38 pm #

    I reckon Little Albert– and I reckon I’m going to have to stop calling him that now–is the only “expert” they’ve got who’s grown-up enough to admit he didn’t know what he was talking about. It is kind of funny, though, how Hultberg links to that video with the “redaction” plastered right on top of it.

    Reality Check:
    I went to Renshaw’s video. He has added a note that he now “redacts” everything he said 4 years ago. I think he meant “retracts”. Could it be? A Birther “expert” actually admitted he was wrong? Note: Ran Talbott and others had been hammering him with the Xerox evidence in the comments.

  153. avatar
    justlw December 12, 2015 at 4:56 pm #

    Dave B.:
    Nelson Hultberg finds a whole mess

    “Hundreds of computer and photo shop experts have testified”

    Thousands and thousands! It was on television! I saw it!

  154. avatar
    Dave B. December 12, 2015 at 5:29 pm #

    Apparently there’s a new “Hawaii in Kenya.” The dorm at the girl’s school in Limuru was torn down, but now there’s a “Hawaii Shopping Centre” in Eldoret:
    https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hawaii+Shopping+Centre/@0.5413026,35.300682,267m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!1m2!2m1!1shawaii+kenya!3m1!1s0x0000000000000000:0x46641b8f2fa696d9!6m1!1e1

  155. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 12, 2015 at 7:58 pm #

    Quora.com has answers to questions, and this one from Richard White is in response to the question: What are the top reasons Donald Trump would make a bad president? Here is his answer:

    The DSM-IV lists 9 indicators that someone might have the mental illness of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, with having at least 5 of those indicators allowing for a positive diagnosis of that mental illness.

    1. Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements).
    2. Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
    3. Believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions).
    4. Requires excessive admiration.
    5. Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations.
    6. Is inter-personally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends.
    7. Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.
    8. Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her.
    9. Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

    Donald Trump has all 9.

    Someone who is clearly mentally ill is probably not the kind of person who would make a good President.

  156. avatar
    RanTalbott December 12, 2015 at 8:56 pm #

    Dave B.: Nelson Hultberg finds a whole mess of acorns

    Too bad those acorns were “used”, and the smell didn’t tip him off….

  157. avatar
    RanTalbott December 12, 2015 at 11:00 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: Someone who is clearly mentally ill is probably not the kind of person who would make a good President.

    Not quite as lame as the attempts to “tele-psychoanalyze” Obama, but not much better.

    2, 3, 7, and 8 are “iffy”, at best, and he doesn’t even offer anecdotes to support the notion that the others rise to the level of “pathological”.

    Trump’s an ignorant, arrogant boor whose lousy temperament and lack of knowledge disqualify him from the presidency. But presenting a pseudo-scientific “diagnosis”, instead of a thoughtful, credible character analysis, tells us more about Richard White than it does about Trump.