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Natural born citizen drops out of the race

Graham is out

South Carolina is once again in the presidential primary news. With its “first in the South” presidential preference primary just 2 months away, South Carolina’s Senator Lindsey Graham has dropped out of the race. Graham, from Central, South Carolina (where I used to live) was one of the rare uncontestable natural born citizens in the Republican race.

Gowdy is cornered

Meanwhile my esteemed1 Congressman Trey Gowdy (R-SC) is supporting Marco Rubio. Gowdy got cornered by one of those new Rubio birthers at an event in Spartanburg, South Carolina, who pressed the point that, according to him, a natural born citizen must have parents born in the US. Gowdy responded “it depends on what you mean” by natural born citizen. This video is played as admission by Gowdy that Rubio and Cruz are not eligible. I would not characterize it that way.

Indeed, Gowdy wrote in a letter to me:

Like you, I believe the Constitution must be our nation’s guiding document, including its provisions specifying the requirements that must be met for an individual to hold the office of President. President Obama was qualified to run for this office by the Federal Election Commission, and courts have dismissed all lawsuits challenging his status as a natural born citizen of the United States. As such, I believe President Obama to be the legitimately elected leader of our nation.

Karma is a bitch

I don’t want to make too much of the irony, but folks in the Republican party who tolerated the birthers no find it coming around to bite them. Lindsey Graham is a another notable exception, having said that the Obama birthers were “crazy” and writing to a constituent:

Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.


1I use the word “esteemed” sometimes sincerely and sometimes sarcastically.

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6 Responses to Natural born citizen drops out of the race

  1. avatar
    CRJ December 21, 2015 at 10:07 pm #

    @Doc [uncontestable natural born citizens]

    Now-you’re-talking!

    I saw that video of Rep. Trey Howdy the other day and thought the same. Although there’s some muffeling I can’t quite make out, I believe some of the inference may have been due to his Reliance on recent [ that’s been Litigated]

    In truth, I believe as you states about S.C. Lindsay Graham , the qualification for the OFFICE OF PRESIDENT ought to be held in such high esteem, and honor of unstructured American Nationalism that it is uncontestiable.

    Love or Hate of another Country can fracture judgement out of love for a parent that is the strongest internal guide a child can know.

    If we say a child’s birth cannot altar a parent’s course of nationality, we cannot be hypocritical and say a child’s birth place of jurisdiction will also be their place of unfettered loyalty as a [natural born Citizen].

    A child’s birth does no more establish a [natural born Citizenship] than straddeling the four corners of four States and plopping the child out squared does.

    Truly, we ought to Maintain something so uniquely American: that of an undivided unfracture American Nationality reserved for the Executive Pair, President and Vice President, that there is an incentive forward in our progress to maintaining and nurturing our AMERICAN culture in the world.

    Tis the incentives put forward that has been attracting people to come here for the last two centuries.

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    bob December 21, 2015 at 10:47 pm #

    CRJ:
    Truly, we ought to Maintain something so uniquely American

    And Americans do: It is called the U.S. Constitution. That it is not interpreted in the manner that Judy desires indicates only that Judy is wrong.

    Love or Hate of another Country can fracture judgement out of love for a parent that is the strongest internal guide a child can know.

    “Can” is doing all of the work in that sentence. And Presdident Obama’s judgment has not been “fractured” with respect to England (or Kenya) (or Indonesia).

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    J.D. Sue December 22, 2015 at 12:18 am #

    bob: “Can” is doing all of the work in that sentence.


    Judy et al just keep making stuff up as they go along. It says more about their own personal inclinations and imaginations than anything. Projection.

  4. avatar
    Dave December 22, 2015 at 12:19 am #

    Gowdy’s letter implies the FEC qualifies candidates as Constitutionally eligible. First I’ve heard of that.

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    Lupin December 22, 2015 at 3:49 am #

    CRJ: Truly, we ought to Maintain something so uniquely American: that of an undivided unfracture American Nationality reserved for the Executive Pair, President and Vice President, that there is an incentive forward in our progress to maintaining and nurturing our AMERICAN culture in the world.

    That would sound good, if it wasn’t complete and total rubbish, entirely made up by you.

    I know you are generally ignorant of American History, but in this case, you have little or no excuse, since this has already been pointed out to you here.

    I will go through it again: when offered French citizenship, James Madison accepted, but first asked then-President Thomas Jefferson if it created any problem. Jefferson opined that it didn’t, and forwarded Madison’s letter of acceptance to the French ambassador. And Madison later became President, as everyone knows.

    I know it may seem strange to you, but not only is there nothing that prevents a dual citizen from being elected president, but we have an unimpeachable precedent dating back to two of your most respected founding fathers that settles the issue.

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    Dr. Conspiracy December 22, 2015 at 7:33 am #

    We know from the first Berg v. Obama (and the FEC) lawsuit, that they do not.

    Dave: Gowdy’s letter implies the FEC qualifies candidates as Constitutionally eligible. First I’ve heard of that.