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Trump’s Albatross

I haven’t seen it, but there surely must somewhere be a political cartoon where Donald Trump is cast as the sailor in Coleridge’s “Rime of the Ancient Mariner” with Obama’s birth certificate tied around his neck instead of an albatross.

Most recently Chris Matthews in an interview with Trump said of the candidates foray into birtherism:

I think it’s a blemish-I think it’s your original sin.

As for me, I think that any time someone says anything positive about Donald Trump, I’ll reply: “You can’t be serious. That man is a birther!”

Hmmm. I have an idea for another political cartoon, showing Trump in the stocks with a “Unrepentant Birther” sign around his neck.

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27 Responses to Trump’s Albatross

  1. avatar
    RanTalbott December 18, 2015 at 7:50 am #

    The problem is that no media outlet is willing to take the ratings hit of alienating him. Even Matthews wouldn’t press him very hard on it. Next time he’s on one of the Sunday shows, they need to run a series of clips, saying “You claim you don’t want to talk about it, but here’s you talking about it, year after year. Do you stand by what you said, or not?”. And refuse to accept “I don’t want to talk about it now” as an answer.

    It won’t really be an “albatross” in the metaphorical sense until somebody actually hangs it on him. Until then, it’s just a dead bird lying on the deck, out of sight and out of mind.

    btw, BR produced a wonderful bit of unintended irony by uploading a clip of Trump dodging the question with Matthews, bracketed with their signature “The only people who don’t want to reveal the truth…” bumper video.

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    Lupin December 18, 2015 at 8:59 am #

    It took the American media, what, roughly four? years to expose McCarthy for the fraud he was (until Ed Murrow’s special, basically) so this does not come as a surprise.

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    Curious George December 18, 2015 at 11:11 am #

    I’ve often wondered what Donald Trump really was doing with the birth certificate adventure back in 2011.

    Was Trump seriously trying to get anwers to his questions about Obama’s birth narrative? Or…

    Was Trump actually acting in the role of a double agent, as Arpaio has suggested in recordings played in court in Arizona, and secretly working for Obama to short circuit Jerome Corsi’s book release about Obama’s birth certificate? Or…

    Was it all simply just more marketing by Trump as a prelude to his eventual announcement that he would run for president?

    I think Donald Trump should explain what his motivation was in 2011 and he should be answering the hard questions that he now wants to ignore.

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    Dr. Conspiracy December 18, 2015 at 12:45 pm #

    That’s what the book “935 Lies: The Future of Truth and the Decline of America’s Moral Integrity” is all about.

    Lupin: It took the American media, what, roughly four? years to expose McCarthy for the fraud he was (until Ed Murrow’s special, basically) so this does not come as a surprise.

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    truxton spangler December 18, 2015 at 5:06 pm #

    “I’ll reply: “You can’t be serious. That man is a birther!”

    That’s been my standard reply for a long time now! If he’ll fall for birtherism, what won’t he fall for?

    I really, really wish someone would press him to explain what his investigators were finding in Hawaii that they couldn’t believe. Alas, I don’t think he’ll ever even be asked that question.

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    RanTalbott December 18, 2015 at 6:10 pm #

    truxton spangler: Alas, I don’t think he’ll ever even be asked that question.

    I’m pretty sure (but not positive) that he was asked that around the time of his candidacy announcement, and he dodged it with his “I don’t talk about that anymore” line. I think it was in one of the one-on-one interviews in the Trump Tower atrium (if anyone cares enough to research it).

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    CRJ December 18, 2015 at 9:30 pm #

    Hence The Missing 2016 #Birther

    Trumps capitalised on Birtherism with out the works. Its exactly what the anti establishment movement what Trump says the political establishment is all about.. “Talking with no Action” in the Video!

    2016 Campaign Video
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vsl6jFtYUEA

    @Curious George [I’ve often wondered what Donald Trump really was doing with the birth certificate adventure back in 2011.] ME TOO!
    Trump on the View
    1- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DMFrdr6QMP8

    Trump Receives Notification
    2- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5qhKvQ9o_E8

    It’s a shame he was watching cases like mine getting hammered. He did recognize he had no standing so lacked official Responsibility!

    But it still sprung 2016 Base Support for him, simply on the coat tails of going on a few shows and spouting his mouth in 2011, ” I think he should show it!”

    Fast forward today, he has Standing, but is relying on the [Record] of those little peons like myself who Failed.

    In that FIRST 2016 Campaign video of mine an interesting corelation pops out if you pause it to read the words.

    Trumps networth worth 3 Billion , I think its Forbes in 2011 and in 2015 It’s up to 10 Billion. That’s a net favor of 6 Billion in what Trump says is just a wreck of the economy.

    That’s an aweful lot of money in just a few years under the Obama Tenure.

    If Anti Birthers really wanted to rest on the laurels, they could pay themselves on the back for Trump.

    Now Hillary’s Racketteering Trial Date has been set, Democrats for Cruz & Rubio are in a tight spot it seems.

    Hillary Clinton’s Poll numbers collapse..
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/16/hillary-clintons-poll-numbers-collapse/

    THE 2016 #DEMOCRATICParty Candidate Corination for President #Clinton2016 #Democrats has in conjunction with her Goverment held office and her Philanthropy Corporation had a Trial set for Rackteering. #DemDebate s perhaps should be more inclusive of other Candidates now as the Coranation may not be?

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/judge-orders-clinton-foundation-racketeering-case-to-trial/article/2565272#.VnMHW9dfCAh.facebook

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    CRJ December 18, 2015 at 9:30 pm #

    Hence The Missing 2016 #Birther

    Trumps capitalised on Birtherism with out the works. Its exactly what the anti establishment movement what Trump says the political establishment is all about.. “Talking with no Action” in the Video!

    2016 Campaign Video
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vsl6jFtYUEA

    @Curious George [I’ve often wondered what Donald Trump really was doing with the birth certificate adventure back in 2011.] ME TOO!
    Trump on the View
    1- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DMFrdr6QMP8

    Trump Receives Notification
    2- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5qhKvQ9o_E8

    It’s a shame he was watching cases like mine getting hammered. He did recognize he had no standing so lacked official Responsibility!

    But it still sprung 2016 Base Support for him, simply on the coat tails of going on a few shows and spouting his mouth in 2011, ” I think he should show it!”

    Fast forward today, he has Standing, but is relying on the [Record] of those little peons like myself who Failed.

    In that FIRST 2016 Campaign video of mine an interesting corelation pops out if you pause it to read the words.

    Trumps networth worth 3 Billion , I think its Forbes in 2011 and in 2015 It’s up to 10 Billion. That’s a net favor of 6 Billion in what Trump says is just a wreck of the economy.

    That’s an aweful lot of money in just a few years under the Obama Tenure.

    If Anti Birthers really wanted to rest on the laurels, they could pat themselves on the back for Trump.

    Now Hillary’s Racketteering Trial Date has been set, Democrats for Cruz & Rubio are in a tight spot it seems.

    Hillary Clinton’s Poll numbers collapse..
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/16/hillary-clintons-poll-numbers-collapse/

    THE 2016 #DEMOCRATICParty Candidate Corination for President #Clinton2016 #Democrats has in conjunction with her Goverment held office and her Philanthropy Corporation had a Trial set for Rackteering. #DemDebate s perhaps should be more inclusive of other Candidates now as the Coranation may not be?

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/judge-orders-clinton-foundation-racketeering-case-to-trial/article/2565272#.VnMHW9dfCAh.facebook

    Trump is bound to get more Democratic and Independant Votes in a General Election than Cruz or Rubio with his support of so many of them and cross over social issues.. Including Hillary.

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    CRJ December 18, 2015 at 10:06 pm #

    @Doc [Read more:

    Cartoonists React To Trump And Birth Certificate (NBC – 2013)
    Google image search for cartoon trump birth certificate ]

    All that Cartoon Stock is Hillarious to anti Birthers, but … Alas! It isn’t working on Trump, Only did on establishment Candidates that I think #Democrats would have preferred as an opponent to Hillary.

    I put out this Video called Obama’s MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY in which you see Donald Trump getting hammered at the 2012 Washington Correspondence Dinner.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TxFho4DQnBY

    Donald has all of that pent up inside and I think he’s got enough money. It certainly appears as if his crowds are much larger now than Hillary’s . As the cartoon shows the older couple running for the Trump Free Zone, it appears that is now a Trump Campaign Rally.

    He’s getting the last laugh.

    Of course I’ve said it a thousand times , the only way to beat Trump is to expose his true lack of Birther Support because he straddled it perfectly.

    Real integrity is the only thing that beats a fake Birther. Of course That would entail… Looking at that Cartoon that shows Trump Evolving into an Birther Ape.., A real Evolution Revolution. ???

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2015/12/17/evolution-revolution/

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    Rickey December 18, 2015 at 10:17 pm #

    CRJ:

    Now Hillary’s Racketteering Trial Date has been set, Democrats for Cruz & Rubio are in a tight spot it seems.

    You really are clueless. Klayman’s lawsuit against the Clinton Foundation was dismissed in August. There is no trial date.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/274219778/Klayman-Clinton#scribd

    Hillary Clinton’s Poll numbers collapse..
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/16/hillary-clintons-poll-numbers-collapse/

    You really are clueless. That link is to a story which was written five months ago.

    Trump is bound to get more Democratic and Independant Votes in a General Election than Cruz or Rubio with his support of so many of them and cross over social issues.. Including Hillary.

    You really are clueless. Trumps approval rating among Democrats is 10% and his approval rating among independents is just 31%. In the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll, Trumps trails Hillary 50%-40%.

    Most Clinton supporters are hoping that Trump gets the Republican nomination.

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    CRJ December 18, 2015 at 10:21 pm #

    @Rickey actually I was just seeing if you would break your Oath to not respond AGAIN.

    Any one can see that with the date of the article. Lol

    Yes, it’s kind of funny. . I think it’s this crowd that’s likes going back 22 years on me and posting from LDS Church owned Newspaper clippings?

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    Rickey December 18, 2015 at 10:50 pm #

    CRJ:
    @Rickey actually I was just seeing if you would break your Oath to not respond AGAIN.

    I never made any such oath. Are you a serial liar, or just ignorant?

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    Reality Check December 18, 2015 at 11:04 pm #

    I think CRJ is confusing you with me. That’s just one more proof he is an idiot..

    Rickey: I never made any such oath. Are you a serial liar, or just ignorant?

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    CRJ December 18, 2015 at 11:30 pm #

    @Reality Check Thanks for the back up Bud!

    I was the idiot that confused you two.. https://twitter.com/CodyRobertJudy/status/678071110181650432

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    Rickey December 19, 2015 at 2:10 am #

    Reality Check:
    I think CRJ is confusing you with me. That’s just one more proof he is an idiot..

    I wonder if he still believes that there is a trial date for Klayman’s RICO lawsuit. He claims that there is a trial coming up, I point out that the lawsuit was dismissed in August, and CRJ’s response is – silence.

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    CRJ December 19, 2015 at 11:41 am #

    Well.., the case in point here Trump has watched the Legal side of the Story fought , straddled it just right, got the support, and never had to file a paper.

    If Trump gets the Rewards of being a #Birther just for asking Obama to show his long form birth certificate and never Filing a Legal Paper on the Principle, then the U.S. Supreme Court gets the Rewards of changing the Constitution without hearing a single Case.

    PRES SUED DNC? Shadow #Sanders2016 lawsuit Fri 2016 @CodyRobertJudy Judy v. Obama 14-9396 &12-5276 #Birther #SCOTUS

    http://www.bustle.com/articles/130896-has-a-candidate-sued-the-dnc-before-bernie-sanders-isnt-the-first-technically

    In your book now Trump as a 2016 Pres. Candidate should be defending his position. In reality he never Legally had a position on the Birther Issue.

  17. avatar
    Slartibartfast December 19, 2015 at 12:41 pm #

    I think Mr. Judy has a sadz that he is the real birther but Trump gets all of the girls.

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    Rickey December 19, 2015 at 1:13 pm #

    CRJ:

    PRES SUED DNC? Shadow #Sanders2016 lawsuit Fri 2016 @CodyRobertJudy Judy v. Obama 14-9396 &12-5276 #Birther #SCOTUS

    You really should try to keep up. It’s been settled already.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/bernie-sanders-campaign-dnc-reach-voter-data-deal-n483031

    When are you going to acknowledge that Klayman’s RICO lawsuit has been dismissed?

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    CarlOrcas December 19, 2015 at 4:07 pm #

    Curious George: Was Trump seriously trying to get anwers to his questions about Obama’s birth narrative? Or…

    I think it was just Trump being Trump….shooting his mouth off while giving his brain a rest.

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    CarlOrcas December 19, 2015 at 4:10 pm #

    Rickey: Are you a serial liar, or just ignorant? (Question to CRJ)

    Is that a trick question???

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    Rickey December 19, 2015 at 8:00 pm #

    CarlOrcas: Is that a trick question???

    It sometimes seem that CRJ perceives every question to be a trick question!

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    Dave B. December 19, 2015 at 9:14 pm #

    Trump and his foreign entanglements:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/12/donald-trump-scotland-golf/421065/

    “I think I do feel Scottish.”

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    RanTalbott December 20, 2015 at 4:22 am #

    CRJ: If Trump gets the Rewards of being a #Birther just for asking Obama to show his long form birth certificate

    … then he will richly deserve them (said “rewards”, as you should have noticed by now, consisting primarily of being mocked, scorned, and shunned by the sane majority).

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    RanTalbott December 20, 2015 at 5:00 am #

    Dave B.: Trump and his foreign entanglements

    Thanks for sharing that. I’d heard a little about the local discontent, because I’m a big fan of British “panel” shows like Mock the Week and Have I Got News for You, so I get a sampling of their “News of the Weird”. But I had no idea how monumentally he’d screwed up.

    It’d be a hoot if that petition to have him banned succeeds: his cult will be doing mental triple back-flips to convince themselves that it’s all because “the Mooooslems have taken over the UK”, and “He must be over the target because he’s taking so much flak” 😈

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    Lupin December 20, 2015 at 5:10 am #

    RanTalbott: I’m a big fan of British “panel” shows like Mock the Week and Have I Got News for You,

    Me too, esp. the latter. Also Charlie Brooker’s show. My favorite is “Philomena Crunk” — wonderful. For those who don’t know her:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvpbW7JRu0Q

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    Dave B. December 20, 2015 at 9:44 am #

    For something REALLY dry, here’s the judgment from the UK Supreme Court:

    https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/docs/uksc-2015-0160-judgment.pdf

    RanTalbott: Thanks for sharing that. I’d heard a little about the local discontent, because I’m a big fan of British “panel” shows like Mock the Week and Have I Got News for You, so I get a sampling of their “News of the Weird”. But I had no idea how monumentally he’d screwed up.

    It’d be a hoot if that petition to have him banned succeeds: his cult will be doing mental triple back-flips to convince themselves that it’s all because “the Mooooslems have taken over the UK”, and “He must be over the target because he’s taking so much flak”