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Cruz calls Trump’s bluff

If he wants to file a frivolous lawsuit, he can file a frivolous lawsuit.

And that is really the whole story. Cruz was on the Hugh Hewitt talk radio program, and gave that response to a question from Hewitt whether Trump had standing to bring a lawsuit over Cruz’ eligibility to become president.

Cruz, who has impressive legal credentials, dodged [ignored, blew off, sidestepped] the substantive question of standing (that he might well have had something worthwhile to say about) and instead called Trump’s bluff. And hey, nobody likes a frivolous lawsuit.

I found out about it at Mediaite.

9 Responses to Cruz calls Trump’s bluff

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    bgansel9 February 19, 2016 at 11:03 am #

    According to Vox, paperwork has been filed in an eligibility lawsuit in the Circuit Court of Cook County in Chicago:

    Filed by a Carson supporter:

    http://www.vox.com/2016/2/18/11058038/ted-cruz-court

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    Dave B. February 19, 2016 at 11:10 am #

    From the article:
    “The Circuit Court of Cook County in Chicago has agreed to hear a lawsuit on Sen. Ted Cruz’s eligibility for president — virtually ensuring that the issue dominates the news in the runup to the South Carolina primary.”
    Somebody could just as well have written that as a joke.

    bgansel9:
    According to Vox, paperwork has been filed in an eligibility lawsuit in the Circuit Court of Cook County in Chicago:

    Filed by a Carson supporter:

    http://www.vox.com/2016/2/18/11058038/ted-cruz-court

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    Notorial Dissent February 19, 2016 at 11:37 am #

    What authority could they possibly have in such a matter.?

  4. avatar
    J.D. Sue February 19, 2016 at 1:43 pm #

    Notorial Dissent: What authority could they possibly have in such a matter.?

    —-
    Stay tuned. If this Raw Story article is correct, the judge said she didn’t know if she had jurisdiction, and asked the parties to present arguments on March 1st. Plaintiff is representing himself pro se, so good luck with that. I wonder if there is a local birther attorney who wants to take up the cause.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/illinois-judge-to-decide-jurisdiction-for-natural-born-case-to-knock-ted-cruz-off-ballot/

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    Sluffy1 February 20, 2016 at 5:10 am #

    The frivolous lawsuit was not about eligibility to become president…
    Trump said Cruz lied about something (maybe prolife) so Trump threatened a defamation lawsuit…. Cruz got all excited about being able to depose Trump if he sued…

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    Notorial Dissent February 20, 2016 at 3:04 pm #

    Sluffy, I’m not sure what you’re on, but I would suggest a change, quickly. You are quite simply wrong. If you can’t be bothered to actually read the articles which contradict what you are claiming, the don’t bother to post.

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    Sluffy1 February 20, 2016 at 5:13 pm #

    Notorial. Wrong about what?

    What am I on ? (10mg Lininopril) … Less than you I’d wager… if you think I’m mistaken about an issue there are better ways to inform than authoring an insulting personal attack… like is all too common at BR…
    Ted Cruz Dares Donald Trump To File ‘Frivolous’ Lawsuit Over Abortion Ad.

    Cruz in a press conference today. “Even in the annals of frivolous lawsuits, this takes the cake.”
    On Tuesday, a lawyer for Trump sent the Cruz campaign a cease-and-desist letter saying that Cruz’s campaign ad “Supreme Trust” is “completely disingenuous” and “replete with outright lies, false, defamatory and destructive statements and downright fabrications.”
    “I look forward to any lawsuit and let me note by the way, one of the things I look forward to most of all is deposing Donald Trump. And for that particular endeavor I may not use outside counsel. I may take the deposition myself. And I will say this: Whether in a deposition or in a court of law, getting Donald Trump under oath, under penalty of perjury, answering these questions? Well I’ll point out it didn’t work very well for Bill Clinton. Donald Trump does not want to be under oath answering questions about his own record because his position quite simply is that anyone who points to his record is somehow lying,” Cruz said.

    If Trump filed a defamation suite,’Frivolous’ would fit…
    ‘Frivolous’ would not be the word I use for a presidential eligibility challenge.
    I’d like to see that go to court and be settled once and for all.

    Did Cruz refer to a challenge of his eligibility as ‘Frivolous’ .. if he did I haven’t seen it.
    I think because what started as a threat to file a defamation complaint unless Cruz apologized and was called ‘Frivolous’…. the ‘Frivolous’ part has carried over when defamation morphed to the eligibility question.

    … or ‘Frivolous’ tested well in focus groups and became Cruz’s new word of the day..

    oh yeah, you still drinking too much… I got no advice.

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    Dr. Conspiracy February 20, 2016 at 7:33 pm #

    The confusion here is that Cruz made two remarks, one calling an eligibility lawsuit frivolous in the Hewitt interview, and one calling a defamation lawsuit frivolous at a press conference. My article is about the former. Here is the transcript from the Hewitt interview where Cruz calls it frivolous:

    HH: Donald Trump … threatened to sue over your eligibility. Now I am on the record as saying I believe you are completely eligible, you are a natural born citizen. People know that. That’s my Constitutional view. It’s always been my view. But I do believe he might have standing to bring that lawsuit as a competitor of yours. Would you, do you agree with me on the standing issue? And would you welcome him filing that suit?

    TC: Listen, Donald has been litigious for many, many years. He uses lawsuits to try to intimidate people and attack people. If he wants to file a frivolous lawsuit, he can file a frivolous lawsuit. But there’s a pattern to what Donald does. It’s a very odd pattern, Hugh. Both Donald Trump and Marco Rubio, when you point to something about their record, when you point to what they have said and done in the past, rather than defend their record, they simply scream liar, liar, liar. And so Donald’s reaction to each of the points of his record that I bring up is simply to engage in personal insults and attacks, and scream liar and threaten a lawsuit. You know, I have not responded in kind. I have no intention in getting in a mud fight with Donald Trump or Marco Rubio or anyone else. I’m going to stay focused on the issues of substance, because I think the people of South Carolina and the people of the country deserve a campaign focused on issues of substance and policy. But it is a very odd pattern that when you point out Donald Trump and Marco Rubio’s record, and this is records that they have, you know, objectively on live television, their positions, they just scream liar. You know, we saw a great illustration of that Saturday night at the debate when I pointed out that Donald Trump still to this day supported taxpayer funding for Planned Parenthood. He began bellowing liar, liar, liar. He said when did I support that? I said well, when we were having the fight over defunding Planned Parenthood, when I was leading that fight, he publicly came out against it, and you said on national television that you think Planned Parenthood does wonderful things. And his response standing there on the stage is he said well, I do think Planned Parenthood does wonderful things. I mean, it was an odd, it was almost out of the Twilight Zone that the thing he just had accused me of lying about, standing on that stage, he embraces and demonstrates it’s true. So they can do what they want to try to distract from issues of substance. But I’m not going to respond in kind. I’m going to focus on the issues that I think matter to the American people.

    HH: But yes or no, Senator, do you think he has standing?

    TC: Look, that question would surely be litigated if he filed that lawsuit. I think the lawsuit would be frivolous, and he’s not going to prevail. But sadly, whether a lawsuit is frivolous or not has not historically dissuaded Donald Trump from hiring plaintiffs lawyers to go to court.

    Cruz also directly called a threatened defamation suit frivolous, as reported at Breitbart:

    By threatening that if we will not pull down the ad that Mr. Trump will seek immediate legal action to prevent the continued broadcast of this ad. And to hold me jointly and severally liable to the fullest extent of the law for any damages resulting there from. You know, I have to say to Mr. Trump, you have been threatening frivolous lawsuits for your entire adult life. Even in the annals of frivolous lawsuits, this takes the cake. So, Donald, I would encourage you, if you want to file a lawsuit challenging this ad, claiming it is defamation, file the lawsuit. It is a remarkable contention that an ad that plays video of Donald Trump speaking on national television is somehow defamation. The operative words in that ad come from Donald Trump’s own mouth. And I understand if a candidate has a record like Donald Trump’s how he could consider anyone pointing to his actual record being defamation.”

    “But if Donald Trump files the lawsuit that he threatens in this letter, that lawsuit will be frivolous and it will result in both Donald Trump and any lawyer that signs his name to the pleadings being sanctioned in court for filing frivolous litigation,” he continued. “But before the lawsuit ends in sanctions for Mr. Trump, it will be important to try the merits of case. now, any first-year law student can tell you in a defamation case, truth is an absolute defense, which means the substance of the case will be whether or not Donald Trump has, in fact, been pro-choice.

    Someone seeing either of the two articles might be inclined to think the other view (minus quotations) was in error. I myself was confused, and this reply has gone through 4 versions.

    Sluffy1: Did Cruz refer to a challenge of his eligibility as ‘Frivolous’ .. if he did I haven’t seen it.

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    Sluffy1 February 21, 2016 at 5:50 am #

    Chronologically, Cruz first started with the frivolous tag in reply to the threatened defamation suit… I don’t read Breibart, I saw the video’s on MSM broadcasts..
    The threat of Standing came after Cruz refused to apologize to Thump for what Trump said were lies and defamation.

    Dr. Conspiracy: Cruz also directly called a threatened defamation suit frivolous

    No. Cruz has only “directly” called a threatened defamation suit frivolous.

    …. and I’ll be picky here and press the issue just because…
    The question was:
    “…do you agree with me on the standing issue? And would you welcome him filing that suit?”

    In his answer he only speaks about the defamation threat, calls it frivolous and explains its frivolity.
    .
    By the time he get gets pressed into answering the question on Standing:
    Cruz finally says:
    “Look, that question would surely be litigated if he filed that lawsuit. I think the lawsuit would be frivolous”….

    He just “thinks” it would be “frivolous”… not that it would be.
    and he doesn’t even swing at softball slow pitch “would you welcome him filing that suit?”

    Wishy washy and lacking the giddyness when compared to how he addresses a defamation suit in which he leaves no doubt of its Frivolousness…. with visions of depositions dancing in his head….

    Once a word or slogan works well for these guys, they’ll use it at every opportunity. Cruz got hung up on Feckless for awhile too, as did Christy and a few others…

    So, I think Cruz doesn’t really think that a person with standing (that’s what all the Obama birthsuits lacked and why they failed to go anywhere) and filing suit is Frivolous… it just rolled off his forked tongue because talking points he locked in about the defamation Frivolousness.