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Cruz in Alabama and Illinois

Five Trump supporters challenge Cruz in Alabama in Federal Court. Read the story at AL.com. Plaintiffs are Sebastian Green, Shannon Duncan, Kyle Spears, Jerry Parker and Kathryn Spears. Green v. Cruz is case number is 5:16-cv-00207-HGD.

Illinois board of elections declares Ted Cruz a natural born citizen:

“The Candidate is a natural born citizen by virtue of being born in Canada to his mother who was a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth,” the board said, explaining Cruz met the criteria because he “did not have to take any steps or go through a naturalization process at some point after birth.”

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/02/03/illinois-board-of-elections-declares-cruz-a-natural-born-citizen/

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69 Responses to Cruz in Alabama and Illinois

  1. avatar
    Dave B. February 5, 2016 at 9:29 pm #

    Cruz challenged in Alabama:
    http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/02/is_ted_cruz_eligible_for_potus.html

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    Dave B. February 5, 2016 at 10:23 pm #

    This is the Alabama case, but I haven’t found any further details. From that sentence excerpted at the al.com article, its’ a doozy.
    https://dockets.justia.com/docket/alabama/alndce/5:2016cv00207/157934

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    Dave B. February 5, 2016 at 10:28 pm #

    Whatever else you might say about it, it’s…short.

    Dave B.:
    Found the suit:
    http://www.waaytv.com/appnews/alabamians-sue-ted-cruz-say-he-can-t-run-for/article_694df6a8-cc55-11e5-b642-8349296b8f7f.html

  4. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy February 5, 2016 at 10:59 pm #

    I had no idea how many federal cases were filed, 538 just this week in Alabama!

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    Dr. Conspiracy February 5, 2016 at 11:58 pm #

    I suppose if you know the lawsuit is going to be dismissed, it doesn’t make sense to put too much effort into it.

    Dave B.: Whatever else you might say about it, it’s…short.

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    CRJ February 6, 2016 at 12:06 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: I had no idea how many federal cases were filed, 538 just this week in Alabama!

    Wow! Just in Alabama? Wow!!! Think of the money and burden that #SCOTUS could save or could have saved with an opinion in Just v, Obama14-9396. Mine of this would have been necessary.

    What could be surmised in general about the 538? Any clues?

    Are they all Republicans who don’t have standing?
    Is the Court going to use a Rico-Type Dismissal lol

    Maybe the Courts are making a good haul at $400 a Case that’s

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    CRJ February 6, 2016 at 12:07 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: I had no idea how many federal cases were filed, 538 just this week in Alabama!

    Wow! Just in Alabama? Wow!!! Think of the money and burden that #SCOTUS could save or could have saved with an opinion in Judy v, Obama14-9396. None of this would have been necessary.

    What could be surmised in general about the 538? Any clues?

    Are they all Republicans who don’t have standing?
    Is the Court going to use a Rico-Type Dismissal lol

    Maybe the Courts are making a good haul at $400 a Case that’s $215,200

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    Rickey February 6, 2016 at 12:37 am #

    CRJ: Wow! Just in Alabama? Wow!!! Think of the money and burden that #SCOTUS could save or could have saved with an opinion in Judy v, Obama14-9396. None of this would have been necessary.

    He said 538 cases. He didn’t say 538 birther cases.

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    Daniel February 6, 2016 at 12:38 am #

    CRJ: Wow! Just in Alabama? Wow!!! Think of the money and burden that #SCOTUS could save or could have saved with an opinion in Just v, Obama14-9396. Mine of this would have been necessary.

    Since when did losing one case stop any birther from doing it all over? Look at yourself. Birthers have lost over 200 cases, yet here you are.

  10. avatar
    Sam the Centipede February 6, 2016 at 4:10 am #

    Dave B.:
    This is the Alabama case, but I haven’t found any further details.From that sentence excerpted at the al.com article, its’ a doozy.
    https://dockets.justia.com/docket/alabama/alndce/5:2016cv00207/157934

    Birther buffoon David Farrar has already turned up to spout nonsense in the comments to that item. His line appears to be that no person with dual citizenship can be President because single citizenship provides a greater barrier against foreign influence. He ignores (in a standard birther make-up-stuff way) the factsthat (a) that’s not what the constitution says, and (b) plenty of past Presidents have held dual citizenship.

    I wonder how quickly Mario Apuzzo will find that site and foul its comment section further with his quasi-legal nonsense?

    And Judy: you lost. Get over it, find yourself a goal in life, such as not being a monumental idiot, and work towards it.

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    Dave B. February 6, 2016 at 5:36 am #

    David Farrar’s bad enough, but why anybody would think serial misinformer– make that blatant, bald-faced liar– Lori Stacey has the slightest idea of what she’s talking about is beyond me.

    Sam the Centipede: Birther buffoon David Farrar has already turned up to spout nonsense in the comments to that item.

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    Scientist February 6, 2016 at 7:18 am #

    Sam the Centipede: His line appears to be that no person with dual citizenship can be President because single citizenship provides a greater barrier against foreign influence. He ignores (in a standard birther make-up-stuff way) the factsthat (a) that’s not what the constitution says, and (b) plenty of past Presidents have held dual citizenship.

    If you really want to make his head explode, direct him to British citizenship laws and show him that if Donald Trump had been born in 1983 or later, he would be a dual US/UK citizen based on his Scottish-born mother,

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    Arthur B. February 6, 2016 at 10:43 am #

    Sam the Centipede: Birther buffoon David Farrar has already turned up to spout nonsense in the comments to that item.

    I don’t see comments at https://dockets.justia.com/docket/alabama/alndce/5:2016cv00207/157934. Can you tell me how to find them?

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    Smirk 4 Food February 6, 2016 at 11:16 am #

    Scientist: If you really want to make his head explode, direct him to British citizenship laws and show him that if Donald Trump had been born in 1983 or later, he would be a dual US/UK citizen based on his Scottish-born mother,

    And, under the best of circumstances, Trump would only be turning 33 this year, so, there’s that…

    Dual Citizenship is not, nor can it ever be, a disqualifying factor for a natural born citizen. Otherwise, some country could create mischief by conferring citizenship on people against their will. Imagine Kim Jong Un declaring all citizens of the US born after January 1, 1900 irrevocably North Korean citizens. We’d be forced to scour old folks home for 116 year olds…

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    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater February 6, 2016 at 11:46 am #

    Sam the Centipede: And Judy: you lost. Get over it, find yourself a goal in life, such as not being a monumental idiot, and work towards it.

    I heard y’all qaida could use a few more monumental idiots. I’m sure they’d appreciate having a real bonafide domestic terrorist on their side.

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    Scientist February 6, 2016 at 12:13 pm #

    Smirk 4 Food: Dual Citizenship is not, nor can it ever be, a disqualifying factor for a natural born citizen. Otherwise, some country could create mischief by conferring citizenship on people against their will. Imagine Kim Jong Un declaring all citizens of the US born after January 1, 1900 irrevocably North Korean citizens. We’d be forced to scour old folks home for 116 year olds…

    Some countries do require dual citizens to renounce their other citizenships before taking office. A recent President of Lithuania had lived a good part of his life in the US, where he naturalized and had a long career at the EPA. He had to renounce his US citizenship before taking office. If the US had such a requirement, which it doesn’t, Cruz would have fulfilled that by renouncing his Canadian citizenship. Such a requirement is actually unrelated to the natural born citizen thing since you could be a natural born citizen and a dual citizen or be a naturalized citizen and not a dual citizen, depending on the circumstances.

    I don’t know how Lithuania would handle the North Korean thing if North Korea refused to allow you to renounce. I guess they’d have to accept your renunciation as sufficient.

    I also wonder if the birthers are aware that a number of countries, mostly Caribbean island tax havens, will sell you citizenship for around $ 100,000 (pocket change to Trump). The transaction is confidential and you don’t have to give up other ciitizenships you hold. Wouldn’t it be hilarious if it turned out Trump had bought one of those to evade taxes?

  17. avatar
    CRJ February 6, 2016 at 1:56 pm #

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: I heard y’all qaida could use a few more monumental idiots. I’m sure they’d appreciate having a real bonafide domestic terrorist on their side.

    Sam the Centipede: And Judy: you lost. Get over it, find yourself a goal in life, such as not being a monumental idiot, and work towards it.

    You sound like Mr. Trump. It is interesting that when Anti Birthers start feeling a loss on Principle, they start imagining scenarios that are convoluted on predications of IF’s and BUT’s.

    A CALL FOR YOUR HELP PATRIOTS You know, I remember Sarah endorsed Mr. Donald J. Trump, but these endorsement points she goes over sound and fit Cody Robert Judy too.

    He’s the only one who is/has actually done anything Legally in our Civil Judicial Branch of Government advocating the Qualifications for President be upheld.

    While respecting Mr. Trump’s business savvy, if we forget the Constitution’s Rule of Law, what makes us any different than looking to a King to fix all our Problems Economically?

    I love President George Washington’s words .. “I am sure there never was a people, who had more reason to acknowledge a divine interposition in their affairs than those of the United States; and I should be pained to believe , that they have forgotten that agency , which was so often manifest during our revolution , or that they failed to consider the omnipotence of that God, who is alone able to protect them. ”

    We cannot expect God to bless us if we do not honor our father and mother and recognise that the Blessings of the Land are predicated to the detail of [ natural born Citizen] ie. Born in the U.S. to Citizen Parents also emphasised in Deuteronomy 5:16

    Parents and Place – could not be tied to Blessings of God referred to in ” the Omnipotence of God who alone can protect them “, better.

    Please, maybe Donald can finance his own Campaign but we cannot escape the responsibility as Presidential Candidates with STANDING not to fight with all our might, mind, and strength for that Divine Protection.

    Help Cody Patriots, with the $ you would normally send to Mr. Trump that he doesn’t need because he has 10 Billion!

    The 10 Trillion spent by Obama equalling 70 thousand per person just on his watch is a Witness of God to you on the withdrawal of his Protections and or curse of the Land. Please my friends, see the Link plain as Day!

    God Bless you, but you have got to honor Dad and Mom in the USA as Cody’s hard work here in the SCOTUS attest.

    #SCOTUS News 14-9396 NBCtzn Case MOTION TO REOPEN&RECONSIDER Filed! READ the MOTION!

    http://codyjudy.blogspot.com/2016/02/breaking-newsnatural-born-citizen-case.html

    FEATURED EDITORIAL BREAKINGNEWS NaturalBornCitizen SCOTUS Case 14-9396 Motion to Reopen&Reconsider Filed! Read the Motion..

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2016/02/05/natural-born-citizen-u-s-supreme-court-case-14-9396-motion-to-reopen-and-reconsider-filed/

    Help Cody with a contribution here Today
    http://www.codyjudy.us
    Secure PayPal Link here. Send him $5,$10, $25,$100 , $2700 today please!
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  18. avatar
    aarrgghh February 6, 2016 at 3:13 pm #

    via freeper gulch, a dead horse, alive with birfers:

    WhiskeyX: “You don’t really believe the Madigan controlled Illinois government is going to allow a ruling that would expose Obama’s ineligibility to be President, now did you?”

    kabar: “One opinion not binding on any other state.”

    dartuser: “Illinois Board of Elections? Now there’s an organization we can put our trust in lol …”

    DiogenesLamp: “As if [the Illinois Board of Elections] know anything about the subject.”

    walkingdead: “when I went to school, you would have failed the test if you understood NBC the way it is being used today.”

    Leo Carpathian: “IRREFUTABLE AUTHORITY HAS SPOKEN (Oct. 18, 2009) The Post & Email has in several articles mentioned …”

  19. avatar
    Rickey February 6, 2016 at 3:34 pm #

    CRJ:

    FEATURED EDITORIAL BREAKINGNEWS NaturalBornCitizen SCOTUS Case 14-9396 Motion to Reopen&Reconsider Filed!

    I doubt that your motion will be docketed, but even if it is it will be denied.

    Once again you have failed to address the reasons for the dismissal of your lawsuit, primarily your failure to state a legally recognized claim for relief.

  20. avatar
    Joey February 6, 2016 at 3:50 pm #

    Wasn’t James Madison a dual U.S.-French citizen?

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    Keith February 6, 2016 at 9:17 pm #

    Joey:
    Wasn’t James Madison a dual U.S.-French citizen?

    Yes.

    And of his own freewill choice as a mature, thoughtful, adult who was the principle author of the Constitution.

    And FOURTEEN YEARS LATER he became the President of the United States.

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    bob February 6, 2016 at 11:11 pm #

    Once again you have failed to address the reasons for the dismissal of your lawsuit, primarily your failure to state a legally recognized claim for relief.

    Or even the denial of Judy’s IFP motion based on his inability to follow simple directions.

    This time next year, there will be a new president, and Judy will still be whining about the courts dumping his frivolous lawsuit.

  23. avatar
    Lupin February 7, 2016 at 3:14 am #

    Joey:
    Wasn’t James Madison a dual U.S.-French citizen?

    I always love to quote Madison’s letter of acceptance (April 1793):

    Sir:

    I have recd. your letter of the 10th. of Octr. accompanying the decree of the National assembly of the 26. of Augst. last; which confers the title of French Citizen on several foreigners among whom I have the honor to be named.

    In the catalogue of sublime truths and precious sentiments recorded in the revolution of France, none is more to be admired, than the renunciation of those prejudices which have perverted the artificial boundaries of nations into exclusions of the philanthropy which ought to cement the whole into one great family. The recitals of the Act which you communicate, contain the best comment on this great principle of humanity: and in proportion, as they speak the magnanimity of the French Nation, must claim the gratitude & affection of the Individuals so honorably adopted into her citizenship.

    For myself I feel these sentiments with all the force which that reflection can inspire; and I present them with peculiar satisfaction as a Citizen of the U. S. which have borne so signal a part towards banishing prejudices from the World & reclaiming the lost rights of Mankind; & whose public connection with France is endeared by the affinities of their mutual liberty, and the sensibility testified by the Citizens of each Country to every event interesting to the fortunes of the other.

    To this tribute of respectful affection, I beg leave to add my anxious wishes for all the prosperity & glory to the French Nation which can accrue from an example corresponding with the dignified maxims they have established, and compleating the triumphs of Liberty, by a victory over the minds of all its adversaries.

    Be pleased, Sir, to accept acknowledgts. due to the sentiments you have personally expressed in transmittg. the public act with which you were charged.

    (bold mine)

  24. avatar
    Carol Ann Kyrias February 7, 2016 at 4:45 am #

    Thank you for this website. With all these idiots repeating long de-bunked BS, I’m impressed at how well you keep your calm and sense of humor. Much like our President who has remained gracious and good-humoured despite the slings and arrows thrown his way.

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    CRJ February 7, 2016 at 11:33 am #

    Joey: Wasn’t James Madison a dual U.S.-French citizen?

    ([Citizen] at the Time of the Adoption of this Constitution)
    President James Madison – was a distinquished revolutionary patriot [Citizen] that little grandfather clause you continue to deny as such.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Madison

    Rickey: Once again you have failed to address the reasons for the dismissal of your lawsuit, primarily your failure to state a legally recognized claim for relief.

    Well, the Motion does not have to deal with that issue, unless your suggesting that [Poverty] be the new lever to Deny [Access to the Courts] ?

    That is what your operating suggestion advocates and I find that wholly contemptable, frivolous, and arbitray to Justice.

    However, your point is very much sacrosanct of your view in your view. I just find that is abhorrently desplorable to Justice.

    Chief Justice John Roberts opined a little bit of a conundrum stating ,
    “We must engineer a change in our legal culture that places a premium on the public’s interest in speedy, fair, and efficient justice,”

    But

    “The chief does not want the court to be at the center of high-profile, high-consequence fights.”

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/02/04/supreme-court-chief-justice-john-roberts-access/79427212/

    I query, why wait for a General Election to come crashing into the Court than with a 49% sore loser to a 51% non natural born Citizen?

    Judy v. Obama 14-9396 actually gives the Court, what should be viewed as a much lower profile case to determine [ natural born Citizen] that scholars throughout the Country say has not been tested.

    I can hardly imagine Doc not advocating the Court hear it just for that purpose. Hey, it’s the U.S. Supreme Court Baby! It’s the Superbowl!

    https://twitter.com/CodyRobertJudy/status/696352993633906689

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    Lupin February 7, 2016 at 11:39 am #

    Carol Ann Kyrias:
    Thank you for this website. With all these idiots repeating long de-bunked BS, I’m impressed at how well you keep your calm and sense of humor. Much like our President who has remained gracious and good-humoured despite the slings and arrows thrown his way.

    Unfortunately the same B.S. resurfaces again and again and again. I no longer count the times I’ve had to explain the correct meaning of Vattel’s or bring up Madison’s dual citizenship. None are so deaf etc.

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    Rickey February 7, 2016 at 12:48 pm #

    CRJ: ([Citizen] at the Time of the Adoption of this Constitution)
    President James Madison – was a distinquished revolutionary patriot [Citizen] that little grandfather clause you continue to deny as such.

    Madison was born in Virginia, so he didn’t need the grandfather clause to be eligible.

    Well, the Motion does not have to deal with that issue, unless your suggesting that [Poverty] be the new lever to Deny [Access to the Courts] ?

    You have been told time and again that the only way you can have a dismissal overturned is by addressing the reasons for the dismissal. Instead of doing that, you obstinately try to re-argue your case.

    Why you fail to grasp is that no court, much less the Supreme Court, cares about your arguments about natural-born citizen because you failed to pass the first threshold, which is to state a legally-recognized claim for relief.

    That said, your two-citizen parent argument has no validity, has never been upheld by any court, does not appear in any civics or constitutional law textbook, and is an argument which no one ever made prior to Leo Donofrio dreaming it up in the fall of 2008.

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    CRJ February 7, 2016 at 1:28 pm #

    Rickey: That said, your two-citizen parent argument has no validity, has never been upheld by any court, does not appear in any civics or constitutional law textbook, and is an argument which no one ever made prior to Leo Donofrio dreaming it up in the fall of 2008.

    You mean besides the entire U.S. Senate in U.S. Sen. Res 511 of course?

    Born in the U.S. to Citizen Parents

    Right there..
    [Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it

    That John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born Citizen under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.]

    Of course that was April 30, 2008.. Such a long time ago for Anti Brothers, perhaps it is antiquated for your taste?

    Or the U.S. Senate of the United States of America a non qualifier in your idea of a Court , Body of Legislature for Law?

    Gosh. Evan Obama and Hillary Clinton were sponsors of that.

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    CRJ February 7, 2016 at 1:43 pm #

    Rickey: You have been told time and again that the only way you can have a dismissal overturned is by addressing the reasons for the dismissal. Instead of doing that, you obstinately try to re-argue your case.

    Why you fail to gras

    And here I thought that the whole reason my Writ of Cert was [not] dismissed was because the Motion of Forma Pauperis was denied that had nothing to do with the Writ of Certiorari.

    Silly me? No.. Silly you.

    Hey Doc

    You still up for the $200.00 Campaign Contribution if they docket my Motion, re-open my Case, and Grant the Writ of Certiorari?

    It’s the Superbowl!!! 📢👍😂

    Wow! Wouldn’t that be SOMETHING!!!?

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    CRJ February 7, 2016 at 2:03 pm #

    CRJ: [bob: Or even the denial of Judy’s IFP motion based on his inability to follow simple directions.

    This time next year, there will be a new president, and Judy will still be whining about the courts dumping his frivolous lawsuit.]

    I think my Motion to Reopen and Reconsider the Motion for Forma Pauperis would have been hailed by Bob as great!

    He has whined the most that he wanted details. Minus redactions of personal info you got the goods now Bob. Any claim I don’t qualify?

    Any word that you feel by golly the Motion should have been granted based on the numbers?

    Or do we all have a little bit of proof here Cody’s whining has some valitity? And Bob, just moved on to whine about something else?

    I’m reading “CRJ Report MOTION TO REOPEN and RECONSIDER MOTION of Forma Pauperis” on Scribd. Read more: http://scribd.com/doc/298040296

    One thing, I don’t think anyone can cite me for not being creative.. That’s something!🏈

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    Rickey February 7, 2016 at 2:14 pm #

    CRJ: You mean besides the entire U.S. Senate in U.S. Sen. Res 511 of course?

    Born in the U.S. to Citizen Parents

    Right there..
    [Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it

    That John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born Citizen under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.]

    Of course that was April 30, 2008.. Such a long time ago for Anti Brothers, perhaps it is antiquated for your taste?

    Or the U.S. Senate of the United States of America a non qualifier in your idea of a Court , Body of Legislature for Law?

    Gosh. Evan Obama and Hillary Clinton were sponsors of that.

    Your reading comprehension deficits kick in again.

    The resolution doesn’t say that it was necessary for both of McCain’s parents to have been citizens. It was merely stating the facts of his birth.

    You are confusing sufficiency with necessity.

    The resolution also says that McCain was born on an American military base. Does that mean that to be a natural-born citizen you have to be born on a military base? Of course not.

    The resolution also says that McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone. Does that mean that a natural-born citizen has to be born in the Panama Canal Zone? Of course not.

    You have been told this a thousand times, but you never learn.

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    CRJ February 7, 2016 at 2:21 pm #

    Rickey: Your reading comprehension deficits kick in again.

    The resolution doesn’t say that it was necessary for both of McCain’s parents to have been citizens. It was merely stating the facts of his birth.

    I know that feeling you have with reading comprehension issues. [Born to U.S. Citizens] you can not comprehend as [Parents]

    Seems rather silly to me as I understand usually Parents refer to a Mom and Dad. .mother and father considered.

    The entire U.S. Senate agreeing with me. I’ll take that as a Witness in the affirmative.

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    Rickey February 7, 2016 at 2:28 pm #

    CRJ: And here I thought that the whole reason my Writ of Cert was [not] dismissed was because the Motion of Forma Pauperis was denied that had nothing to do with the Writ of Certiorari.

    Your writ and your motion for IFP status are two separate issues. If you had been granted IFP status, your writ would have been denied. We know this because your writ is an incomprehensible word salad which doesn’t address the reasons that the District Court and the Court of Appeals rejected your lawsuit. We also know that it would have been denied because not a single SCOTUS justice called for a response from the respondents.

    And the fact that you publicly accused SCOTUS of being corrupt won’t help you, either.

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    Rickey February 7, 2016 at 2:36 pm #

    CRJ: I know that feeling you have with reading comprehension issues.[Born to U.S. Citizens] you can not comprehend as [Parents]

    Seems rather silly to me as I understand usually Parents refer to a Mom and Dad. .mother and father considered.

    Sign at country club swimming pool:

    “Only children whose parents are members can use the pool.”

    Bobby’s father is a member of the club, but his mother is deceased. Does that mean that Bobby can’t use the pool?

    As usual, you fail to address the real issue. Clearly, both of McCain’s parents were U.S. citizens. However, it wasn’t necessary for both of them to have been citizens.

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    CRJ February 7, 2016 at 2:36 pm #

    Rickey: If you had been granted IFP status, your writ would have been denied.

    As Bob always says. [ IF ] and [ WOULD HAVE ] is doing a lot of work there. 😂😂😂

    But, what IF it wasn’t? Or if it was Granted? Are you willing to put up $200 in a Campaign Contribution if both are granted?

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    Scientist February 7, 2016 at 3:47 pm #

    CRJ: Gosh. Evan Obama and Hillary Clinton were sponsors of that.

    Given that Obama was running at the time the McCain resolution was voted on, I think it is safe to say that HE didn’t see the resolution as disqualifying someone with one citizen parent. So, I’m afraid it only does so in your imagination.

  37. avatar
    Arthur B. February 7, 2016 at 3:49 pm #

    Scientist: Given that Obama was running at the time the McCain resolution was voted on, I think it is safe to say that HE didn’t see the resolution as disqualifying someone with one citizen parent.So, I’m afraid it only does so in your imagination.

    Heh. Nice point.

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    Rickey February 7, 2016 at 4:17 pm #

    Scientist: Given that Obama was running at the time the McCain resolution was voted on, I think it is safe to say that HE didn’t see the resolution as disqualifying someone with one citizen parent.So, I’m afraid it only does so in your imagination.

    Ditto to what Arthur said!

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    Rickey February 7, 2016 at 4:18 pm #

    CRJ: As Bob always says. [ IF ] and [ WOULD HAVE ] is doing a lot of work there.

    But, what IF it wasn’t? Or if it was Granted? Are you willing to put up $200 in a Campaign Contribution if both are granted?

    That depends. What do I get when you lose the bet?

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    bob February 7, 2016 at 4:23 pm #

    CRJ: I think my Motion to Reopen and Reconsider the Motion for Forma Pauperis would have been hailed by Bob as great!

    Judy continues to not understand what other people are actually saying, as Judy’s motion is pointless and just him wasting more judicial resources in a futile effort to stroke his own ego.

    He has whined the most that he wanted details.

    Judy continues to not understand the most basic of concepts: People don’t care about the details of his self-created financial plight; the issue is whether Judy filled out the IFP application correctly. There’s no evidence that he did, plenty that he didn’t, and Judy like a child continues to refuse to show his original application. And like a child continues to whine about the routine denial due to his inability to follow simple directions.

    Any claim I don’t qualify?

    A question that can only be answered by seeing the original IFP application, which Judy refuses to disclose.

    Any word that you feel by golly the Motion should have been granted based on the numbers?

    The IFP application can only be granted if it was filled out correctly, and there’s no indication that it was.

    Or do we all have a little bit of proof here Cody’s whining has some valitity?

    Judy filling his pointless motion is further proof that he has nothing but whine.

    And Bob, just moved on to whine about something else?

    I’m perfectly content with Judy’s case being resigned to dust bin of history, where it so rightfully belongs.

    Judy, of course, has hijacked yet another intelligent discussion by making all about himself. Because he is that much of a drama queen.

    One thing, I don’t think anyone can cite me for not being creative.

    Judy wasting his life, and the court’s time, is not worth any compliment.

    But, what IF it wasn’t? Or if it was Granted?

    Judy’s latest waste of paper will likely result in it either not being filed (because the case is considered closed), or being filed and then denied. Judy doesn’t understand that his frivolous case is O – V – E – R.

    Although other outcomes are technically possible, I do not consider them to be even remotely probable. Yet that won’t stop Judy from fantasizing about them.

    Are you willing to put up $200 in a Campaign Contribution if both are granted?

    What is Judy willing to wager? Or, as usual, does Judy expect something for nothing?

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    CRJ February 7, 2016 at 5:24 pm #

    bob: What is Judy willing to wager? Or, as usual, does Judy expect something for nothing?

    Well thank you for that Bob. I thought I had wagered all the TIME it took ? Lol

    I really don’t have any $ to wager. I can do 200 pushups to your $200 to the Campaign.. How’s that? 😉

  42. avatar
    bob February 7, 2016 at 6:59 pm #

    CRJ: Well thank you for that Bob. I thought I had wagered all the TIME it took ?Lol

    That’s not a wager; that’s just Judy feeding his ego.

    I really don’t have any $ to wager. I can do 200 pushups to your $200 to the Campaign.. How’s that?
    Unsurprisingly, Judy offers something no one wants.

    A real wager would be Judy promising never to post here again.

  43. avatar
    Arthur February 7, 2016 at 7:00 pm #

    CRJ: I really don’t have any $ to wager. I can do 200 pushups to your $200 to the Campaign.. How’s that?

    Pushups? Give me a break.

    How about this?

    If neither motions are granted, you acknowledge you were wrong, and then promise to never post comments on this site about yourself or anything having to do with your various legal issues, family dramas, or political ambitions.

  44. avatar
    Rickey February 7, 2016 at 7:40 pm #

    CRJ:

    I really don’t have any $ to wager. I can do 200 pushups to your $200 to the Campaign.. How’s that?

    Here’s a bet that I’ll take.

    If your case is reopened and you are granted IFP status and granted cert, I will donate $200 to your campaign.

    If your case is not reopened, or if it is reopened and you are not granted IFP status and cert, you agree to post here a link to your motion for IFP status and the correspondence you received from SCOTUS about your motion.

  45. avatar
    Keith February 7, 2016 at 8:03 pm #

    CRJ: Right there..
    [Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it

    That John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born Citizen under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.]

    So cool – lets go with that.

    Please list the U.S. Presidents that met all of those conditions:

    a) American Citizen Parents
    b) Born on a U.S. Military Base
    c) Born in the Panama Canal Zone
    d) Born in 1936

    I mean, it is right there in Res. 511 – those must be the requirements for Natural Born Citizen, right?

    Please don’t post on the subject again until you have answered this obviously simple to satisfy request:

    ==> List each and every President that satisfies the eligibility requirements as set out in the definition of NBC as explained in the Senate Resolution 511.

    (Hint: there should be 43 of them)

    ==> Extra points: list each and every Candidate running for the Democratic or Republican Party’s Presidential nomination in 2016 that satisfied those requirements. (Hint: you can limit your research to just the one’s that have appeared in any of the televised debates if you wish).

    CRJ: I know that feeling you have with reading comprehension issues.[Born to U.S. Citizens] you can not comprehend as [Parents]

    Seems rather silly to me as I understand usually Parents refer to a Mom and Dad. .mother and father considered.

    The entire U.S. Senate agreeing with me. I’ll take that as a Witness in the affirmative.

    Yeah, but what about the U.S. Military Base, the Panama Canal Zone, and the birth in 1936? Don’t you agree with the Senate on those requirements too?

  46. avatar
    amazing February 7, 2016 at 9:36 pm #

    Would anyone on this Illinois board of elections be embarrassed by the following”

    A Harvard Law professor explains why he thinks Ted Cruz is ineligible to run for president

    http://www.businessinsider.com/professor-law-harvard-ted-cruz-ineligible-gop-republican-president-2016-1

    REALLY \/

    Illinois board of elections declares Ted Cruz a natural born citizen:

    “The Candidate is a natural born citizen by virtue of being born in Canada to his mother who was a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth,” the board said, explaining Cruz met the criteria because he “did not have to take any steps or go through a naturalization process at some point after birth.”

  47. avatar
    Arthur February 8, 2016 at 12:01 am #

    amazing: Would anyone on this Illinois board of elections be embarrassed by the following”

    I wouldn’t be.

  48. avatar
    Pete February 8, 2016 at 2:45 am #

    I wouldn’t be.

    It’s definitely interesting that a Harvard Law Professor thinks Cruz is ineligible.

    It also flies in the face of pretty much everybody else’s opinion, except for Mary Brigid McManamon.

    By “everybody else,” I obviously mean everybody of any real expertise in the legal world who has expressed an opinion.

    And for a number of reasons recently expressed on this site, there’s good reason to believe in Cruz’s eligibility.

    For one, I don’t buy the assertion (because that’s all it is at this point) that the Framers meant a strict common-law-unmodified-by-statute definition of “natural born.”

  49. avatar
    Rickey February 8, 2016 at 12:24 pm #

    amazing:
    Would anyone on this Illinois board of elections be embarrassed by the following”

    A Harvard Law professor explains why he thinks Ted Cruz is ineligible to run for president

    Why would anyone be embarrassed? It’s just one person’s opinion.

    I don’t believe that it is ridiculous to question the eligibility of Cruz, However, the consensus among experts (and probably the general public) seems to be that if you are born a citizen, you are eligible to be president.

  50. avatar
    Dave B. February 8, 2016 at 2:33 pm #

    I keep seeing references to what this video describes as an exception to the common law for children born abroad,
    “The only exception is if you’re born abroad to someone working directly for the US.”
    The video goes on to refer to McCain’s case. There is no such exception based on military service.

    amazing: A Harvard Law professor explains why he thinks Ted Cruz is ineligible to run for president

  51. avatar
    CRJ February 8, 2016 at 3:52 pm #

    Rickey: I don’t believe that it is ridiculous to question the eligibility of Cruz, However, the consensus among experts (and probably the general public) seems to be that if you are born a citizen, you are eligible to be president.

    I’m not sure the consensus wouldn’t disagree when it’s explained Nauturalization Act Aliens and Citizens at BirthTitle 8 semubsection 1401 a-h statutes do not mention [natural born Citizen] but only [Citizen]

    Rickey: If your case is reopened and you are granted IFP status and granted cert, I will donate $200 to your campaign.

    Thank you.

  52. avatar
    Rickey February 9, 2016 at 12:04 am #

    CRJ:
    Thank you.

    ?????

    I don’t see where you agreed to my terms.

  53. avatar
    bob February 9, 2016 at 3:02 am #

    Rickey: I don’t see where you agreed to my terms.

    You of course mean these terms:

    Rickey: If your case is not reopened, or if it is reopened and you are not granted IFP status and cert, you agree to post here a link to your motion for IFP status and the correspondence you received from SCOTUS about your motion.

    Of course Judy didn’t agree to them: As he’s demonstrated, he’s only interested in getting something for nothing.

  54. avatar
    CRJ February 9, 2016 at 3:55 am #

    bob: Of course Judy didn’t agree to them: As he’s demonstrated, he’s only interested in getting something for nothing.

    Yes, and @Bob didn’t believe Hillary Clinton was under a Formal FBI Investigation either. Turns out she was and is.

    http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/fbi-formally-confirms-its-investigation-hillary-clintons-email-server

    Rickey: I don’t see where you agreed to my terms.

    Gosh, a little confidence in the gallery. You guys seem scared to make a bet without twisted arms for my personal information. , even though you have the numbers.

    Just kinda shows everyone your theories are easily shattered. Gosh, you’d think that you guys feel I have a GOOD Chance now. That’s cool!

  55. avatar
    bob February 9, 2016 at 11:14 am #

    CRJ: Yes, and @Bob didn’t believe Hillary Clinton was under a Formal FBI Investigation either. Turns out she was and is.

    Judy continues his lies, as I never expressed any belief about Clinton.

    Gosh, a little confidence in the gallery.

    A habitual liar has earned no confidence.

    You guys seem scared to make a bet without twisted arms for my personal information. , even though you have the numbers.

    A bet requires both parties to wager. A one-sided wager is just charity, which Judy is all too familiar with receiving.

    And Judy continues to not understand that the issue isn’t his finances, but rather the evidence of his inability to follow simple directions.

    And notice how Judy wasted all those words, yet didn’t actually say the one simple thing that was requested of him: to expressly and explicitly agree to Rickey’s terms. Because Judy is that much of a weasel.

    Just kinda shows everyone your theories are easily shattered.

    The only thing shown so far is that Judy repeatedly lies and fails to “understand” simple things.

    Gosh, you’d think that you guys feel I have a GOOD Chance now.

    No one here thinks Judy’s latest attention whoring will have any effect. Nor will Judy ever come to terms with his case being over. Or him being continuously wrong, about just about everything.

  56. avatar
    bob February 9, 2016 at 11:46 am #

    CRJ: Turns out she was and is.

    Judy again shows his inability to read; from the very article he cites:

    [FBI General Counsel] Baker says the FBI has not, however, “publicly acknowledged the specific focus, scope or potential targets of any such proceedings.”

    So the FBI, in fact, has not stated Clinton was or is being investigated.

  57. avatar
    Rickey February 9, 2016 at 5:46 pm #

    CRJ:

    Gosh, a little confidence in the gallery. You guys seem scared to make a bet without twisted arms for my personal information. , even though you have the numbers.

    We’re not interested in your numbers. We’re interested in whether you followed the rules for filing your IFP motion, and we can’t determine that without seeing it.

    I’m willing to put up $200. Are you willing to put up a few minutes of your ample free time to post your motion and correspondence on Scribd?

    Yes, and @Bob didn’t believe Hillary Clinton was under a Formal FBI Investigation either. Turns out she was and is.

    http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/fbi-formally-confirms-its-investigation-hillary-clintons-email-server

    Yawn, nothing new there. Everybody knew six months ago that the FBI was asked to investigate Clinton’s e-mail server, but by all accounts the investigation is limited to looking into whether any classified information was compromised. As the Washington Post reported on August 4:

    The FBI has begun looking into the security of Hillary Rodham Clinton’s private e-mail setup, contacting in the past week a Denver-based technology firm that helped manage the unusual system, according to two government officials. Also last week, the FBI contacted Clinton’s lawyer, David Ken­dall, with questions about the security of a thumb drive in his possession that contains copies of work e-mails Clinton sent during her time as secretary of state. The FBI’s interest in Clinton’s e-mail system comes after the intelligence community’s inspector general referred the issue to the Justice Department in July. Intelligence officials expressed concern that some sensitive information was not in the government’s possession and could be “compromised.” The referral did not accuse Clinton of any wrongdoing, and the two officials said Tuesday that the FBI is not targeting her.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fbi-looks-into-security-of-clintons-private-e-mail-setup/2015/08/04/2bdd85ec-3aae-11e5-8e98-115a3cf7d7ae_story.html

  58. avatar
    CRJ February 10, 2016 at 11:39 am #

    Rickey: We’re not interested in your numbers. We’re interested in whether you followed the rules for filing your IFP motion, and we can’t determine that without seeing it.

    IF you guys were interested in RULES you would understand a DENIAL is not based on Rules. If your Form is filled out wrong , the Court Clerks are obligated to refuse filing it. They send it back to you. It’s the courtesy of the Courts, you do actually know this?

    An OFFICIAL [DENIAL] is based on numbers. You have those, and the injustice, arbitrary, malfeasance of the DENIAL in the palm of your hand. Now what are you doing about that?

    I am alive. ❤This is not a robot. 😉 That shouldn’t take a whole lot of brain cells.

  59. avatar
    bob February 10, 2016 at 11:45 am #

    CRJ: IF you guys were interested in RULES you would understand a DENIAL is not based on Rules. Of your Form is filled out wrong , the Court Clerks are obligated to refuse filing it. They send it back to you.

    Says Judy, who can’t cite an actual rule to back up his beliefs.

    An OFFICIAL [DENIAL] is based on numbers.

    Says Judy, who can’t cite an actual rule to back up his beliefs.

    You have those, and the injustice, arbitrary, malfeasance of the DENIAL in the palm of your hand.

    There was no injustice or malfeasance, and nothing arbitrary, about a court requiring Judy to follow simple directions.

    Now what are you doing about that?

    Again remind Judy that his lies are convincing no one.

    And notice how Judy still refuses to agree to Rickey’s very reasonable terms for a wager. Such a coward.

  60. avatar
    Notorial Dissent February 10, 2016 at 1:54 pm #

    The lying convicted felon still refuses to acknowledge that he had two options with his filing, either submit the appeal with the proper number of properly done up copies and pay the filing fee, OR submit the IFP properly and correctly filled out by the deadlines stated. You were given a chance to either, you did neither. You have no one to blame for your failure but yourself. Get over it, get a life.

  61. avatar
    Arthur February 10, 2016 at 8:22 pm #

    Notorial Dissent: Get over it, get a life.

    As unsettling as it may seem, this IS his life.

  62. avatar
    Rickey February 10, 2016 at 9:57 pm #

    CRJ: IF you guys were interested in RULES you would understand a DENIAL is not based on Rules. If your Form is filled out wrong , the Court Clerks are obligated to refuse filing it. They send it back to you. It’s the courtesy of the Courts, you do actually know this?

    There is nothing in the rules which requires such “courtesy.” If you believe that there is such a rule please cite the Rule Number.

    An OFFICIAL [DENIAL] is based on numbers.

    An official denial is based upon whatever grounds SCOTUS deems appropriate.

    Now what are you doing about that?

    I’m sitting back and marveling at your inability to learn from your mistakes.

    That shouldn’t take a whole lot of brain cells.

    I’ll admit that you know more than me about not having a lot of brain cells.

  63. avatar
    CRJ February 11, 2016 at 6:08 pm #

    bob: Says Judy, who can’t cite an actual rule to back up his beliefs.

    How about the [Golden Rule]?

    Notorial Dissent: You have no one to blame for your failure but yourself. Get over it, get a life.

    Rickey: I’ll admit that you know more than me about not having a lot of brain cells.

    Arthur: As unsettling as it may seem, this IS his life.

    Haha 😂 You guys are Hillary Hillarious!!! Nice!

    Won’t be long before ALL Democrats are BIRTHERS

    Hillary Clinton surrogate and former Democratic Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm went birther on Canadian-Born Cruz. Granholm told CNN Canadian-born Cruz should get a declaratory judgment on his “natural born Citizen” status.
    http://www.birtherreport.com/2016/02/barrage-law-schools-confirm-foreign.html#3I8h57v0fHI0hrXZ.99

  64. avatar
    bob February 11, 2016 at 7:11 pm #

    CRJ: How about the [Golden Rule]?

    What about it? It is a “rule” that Judy certainly doesn’t keep. (He did unto thousands what no one did unto him.)

    If other words: Judy lied — yet again — when he suggested that there was a court rule that meant a clerk’s acceptance of his application was an acknowledgment that it was properly filled out.

    If Judy wasn’t so narcissistic, he could search the internet and read about other people complaining about the opposite problem (clerks refusing to docket filings). But Judy’s world begins and ends with unquenchable ego.

    Granholm told CNN Canadian-born Cruz should get a declaratory judgment on his “natural born Citizen” status.

    If Judy could read, he would notice that Granholm also said that she believes Cruz is eligible.

  65. avatar
    Arthur February 11, 2016 at 11:11 pm #

    CRJ: Haha 😂 You guys are Hillary Hillarious!!! Nice!

    You may find critiques of your obsessions funny, but I doubt your children do.

  66. avatar
    Rickey February 12, 2016 at 3:31 am #

    Arthur: You may find critiques of your obsessions funny, but I doubt your children do.

    Here we are a week later, and Judy’s motion has not been docketed. Which is no surprise, because his motion is untimely pursuant to Rule 44, which is the only Rule that comes close to addressing the motion.The Rules actually make no provision for reopening a closed case.

    His children probably wish that he spent even half of his time and energy on working to support them as he has spent on his fool’s mission.

  67. avatar
    Lupin February 12, 2016 at 6:32 am #

    From the all the evidence available to us here, CRJ is a narcissistic sociopath and not even a smart one, and one can only hope his children will grow up with minimal damage.

  68. avatar
    Notorial Dissent February 12, 2016 at 1:01 pm #

    I think I’ll just stick with tediously boring illiterate lying convicted felon with overblown delusions of adequacy, who has lived a totally meaningless, unproductive, and otherwise useless, unless you count terrorizing 3,000 innocent bystanders, life.