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Washington Times: Yes Clinton did start the birther movement

An opinion piece in the Washington Times titled “Fact checking the media – yes, the Clinton Machine started the birther movement” appeared August 22. The article argues that because an internal campaign memo suggested attacking Obama as a multicultural outsider, that somehow that constitutes starting the birther movement. Just the use of the word “machine” in the description of the Clinton campaign shows where the Washington Times has its bias. I left the following comment on the article:

There is no evidence presented in this article that suggests that Clinton, or anyone in her campaign started the “birther movement”. Birther means claiming that Obama is legally ineligible to be president because of the circumstances of his birth. While today “birther” has an expanded meaning, that was certainly not so in 2008. The other significant distinction between what is described in this article and real birthers, is that Obama really did spend part of his childhood in Indonesia and he really does have a multicultural life experience. Birthers believe in false conspiracy theories that he was born in Kenya and his birth certificate is a fake.

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17 Responses to Washington Times: Yes Clinton did start the birther movement

  1. avatar
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater August 25, 2016 at 7:42 am #

    Yup the article is completely devoid of any substance

  2. avatar
    Nancy R Owens August 25, 2016 at 7:54 am #

    Ok, for the sake of argument, did the Clintons claim that they would use the Clinton Foundation funds to expose Obama’s forged birth certificate?

  3. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy August 25, 2016 at 5:23 pm #

    The Clinton’s have never suggested that Obama’s birth certificate was forged.

    Nancy R Owens: Ok, for the sake of argument, did the Clintons claim that they would use the Clinton Foundation funds to expose Obama’s forged birth certificate?

  4. avatar
    Reality Check August 25, 2016 at 8:12 pm #

    Trump’s ridiculous Birtherism stands on it’s own. Whether or not someone in the Clinton “machine” questioned Obama’s birthplace in 2008 (and they didn’t) doesn’t matter. By 2011 it was well documented that President Obama was born in Hawaii and Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State. There was no excuse for Trump’s birther BS by then.

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    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater August 25, 2016 at 8:29 pm #

    Nancy R Owens:
    Ok, for the sake of argument, did the Clintons claim that they would use the Clinton Foundation funds to expose Obama’s forged birth certificate?

    Nope nor did they ever go birther.

  6. avatar
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater August 26, 2016 at 12:07 am #

    Oh look Mario the putz just showed up on the article

  7. avatar
    Reality Check August 26, 2016 at 6:49 am #

    😆 Should we start an over/under pool on the number of comments?

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater:
    Oh look Mario the putz just showed up on the article

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    Kate August 26, 2016 at 4:33 pm #

    The only foundation funds that were allegedly used for purposes that were not suitable were those from the Trump Foundation that donated to Pam Bondi and Greg Abbott, A.G.’s of FL and TX at the time they received the donation, which occurred while they were evaluating the evidence against Trump University. Both declined to bring charges against Trump.

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    Thrifty August 27, 2016 at 6:09 am #

    Articles like this are some of the strongest evidence that Trump and his brand of xenophobic lunacy has taken over the Republican party. You have mainstream conservative news outlets touting discredited conspiracy theories because they feel they need to support their candidate who touts discredited conspiracy theories.

  10. avatar
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater August 27, 2016 at 8:57 am #

    Reality Check:
    Should we start an over/under pool on the number of comments?

    LOL idiot Ike just showed up

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    Sam the Centipede August 27, 2016 at 12:56 pm #

    The Washington Times reads like the Post and Email. Ee-ugh. It is a nasty, filthy, racist pile of poo. Mario Apuzzo and Rant’o Ike must be drawn to it like flies to road apples.

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    bob August 27, 2016 at 1:12 pm #

    Reality Check:
    Should we start an over/under pool on the number of comments?

    Over 15,000. 😉

    Apuzzo’s been relatively quiet lately. He was camping in various comment sections, but not like he was at WFP or CCR. And the comments have died down on his own site.

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    Cody Robert Judy August 27, 2016 at 5:19 pm #

    bob: Apuzzo’s been relatively quiet lately.

    Speaking of Apuzzo’s Elliott v. Cruz Case…

    PRAYING in JESUS Name and THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN Two interesting Cases appear in Conference of U.S. Supreme Court #SCOTUS on the same day this September 26, 2016.
    Navy Chaplain booted over praying ‘in Jesus’ name’ goes to Supremes concerning Free Speech of Religious Sentiment
    15-1445
    Title:
    Gordon J. Klingenschmitt, Petitioner
    v.
    United States
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx…
    As well, the Case that was determined by the PA Supreme Court that standing as well as the political question doctrine were satisfied by Elliott in questioning Ted Cruz’s Ineligibility.
    No. 16-13
    Title:
    Carmon Elliott, Petitioner
    v.
    Ted Cruz
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx…

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    Rickey August 27, 2016 at 7:06 pm #

    Cody Robert Judy: Speaking of Apuzzo’s Elliott v. Cruz Case…

    PRAYING in JESUS Name and THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN Two interesting Cases appear in Conference of U.S. Supreme Court #SCOTUS on the same day this September 26, 2016.
    Navy Chaplain booted over praying ‘in Jesus’ name’ goes to Supremes concerning Free Speech of Religious Sentiment
    15-1445
    Title:
    Gordon J. Klingenschmitt, Petitioner
    v.
    United States
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx…
    As well, the Case that was determined by the PA Supreme Court that standing as well as the political question doctrine were satisfied by Elliott in questioning Ted Cruz’s Ineligibility.
    No. 16-13
    Title:
    Carmon Elliott, Petitioner
    v.
    Ted Cruz
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx…

    Once again Judy displays his ignorance of how the Supreme Court works.

    Both of the cases which he links to have been scheduled for the 9/26/16 conference. In both the cases the respondents have waived their right to respond, and in both cases not a single justice has called for a response. This means that both cases are on the dead file list, and cert will be denied without comment on both cases shortly after 9/26.

    As for Gordon Klingenschmitt, he wasn’t booted simply because of praying in the name of Jesus. As usual, Judy oversimplifies a complex case. Anyone interested in the particulars can get them here:

    https://ecf.cofc.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2011cv0723-51-0

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    Reality Check September 1, 2016 at 7:09 am #

    Yes, and they are not good at admitting their mistakes. I pointed out to them that this article http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/apr/15/joe-scarborough/heres-scoop-obama-has-worked-ice-cream-business-am/# has an obviously wrong date for the time Barack Obama worked at Baskin-Robbins and they refused to change it. The article says he worked there in “1975 or 1976” without citing any sources.President Obama’s Facebook page says he worked there in 1978.

    Also in the summer of 1975 Obama was only 13 years old. When I wrote Politifact they said I need a better source than a “pro Obama group”. The error still remains in the article.

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Politifact blows it again, apparently unable to read English.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/aug/29/reince-priebus/reince-priebus-says-clinton-campaign-and-supporter/

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    Arthur B. September 7, 2016 at 4:34 pm #

    CNN BLOWS IT AGAIN!

    First they give us the happy news that “Pence says he believes Obama born in US” … and then they screw it up by saying:

    “Trump was perhaps the highest-profile ‘birther’ back in 2011, when he repeatedly raised questions about Obama’s birthplace. The President eventually produced his birth certificate, largely putting the controversy to rest.”

    The President produced his birth certificate in 2008, and major national news outlets should certainly know that.

    Anyone know how to get the message to Cassie Spodak?

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/07/politics/mike-pence-donald-trump-obama-birther/index.html