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The additional open thread: Fake News edition

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36 Responses to The additional open thread: Fake News edition

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    Dr. Conspiracy February 11, 2018 at 12:59 pm #

    Welcome to the new Open Thread.

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    Dr. Conspiracy February 11, 2018 at 3:02 pm #

    Insightful article about why people believe Trump’s lies:

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/donald-trump-lies-liar-effect-brain-214658

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    Dr. Conspiracy February 12, 2018 at 7:41 pm #

    OOPS, didn’t put the new Open Thead in the Open Thread category.

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    Northland10 February 12, 2018 at 8:44 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Welcome to the new Open Thread.

    For the record, I am still reading through the RSS feed, as always, so I may not show up on a counter unless I actually go to the site to respond.

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    bob February 13, 2018 at 7:21 pm #

    Cruz has waived response to Laity’s Final Birther Challenge. This last case will be deadlisted and then denied soon enough.

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    Rickey February 14, 2018 at 9:32 pm #

    bob:
    Cruz has waived response to Laity’s Final Birther Challenge.This last case will be deadlisted and then denied soon enough.

    Yes, this, like all the others, was DOA. At least the birthers seemed to have learned that SCOTUS setting a deadline for a response does not mean that the respondent has to do anything. I remember when the first birther case was filed with SCOTUS the birthers were telling themselves that Obama would have to respond by producing his birth certificate.

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    Keith February 18, 2018 at 7:43 pm #

    Years ago I asserted that the pattern of comments on this site pointed to an organized gang playing tag team, asking the same questions in round robin fashion. At the time I speculated that it was kids playing a point scoring game, or a group of patsies being paid by the post.

    Well it seems the FBI has basically validated my musings. I am not necessarily happy to have been proven correct.

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    Keith (not logged on) February 19, 2018 at 3:49 am #

    The http://www.obamaconspiracy.org site seems to be broken.

    I’m on Firefox on Windows, and the only way to find the open thread was to ‘goto’ http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2018/.

    Once there, it was not showing my post I made earlier today via Firefox on Android (where the thread was found by clicking on the ‘number of comments’ link. But now that I think about it, I’m not sure I was logged on ‘properly’ at that time – perhaps it is in moderation?

    So I had to logon (in Windows) in order to post, but the logon page wouldn’t even load. So I don’t know if this will post or if I’ll get dinged for ‘impersonating’ a regular user, or what.

    (Note: I did get dinged for a possible imposter. I’ll try another name perhaps)
    (Note 2: dinged again, I’ll try another email)

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    Keith (not logged on) February 19, 2018 at 3:50 am #

    OK, that worked. And my earlier post just showed up too. Hmmm.

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    gorefan February 19, 2018 at 11:40 am #

    Interesting and possibly scary article.

    http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-fake-videos-20180219-story.html

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    Dr. Conspiracy February 19, 2018 at 12:36 pm #

    The big difference between birthers on the Internet and Russian trolls, is that the Russians were effective in getting real people to turn out for rallies.

    Keith: Years ago I asserted that the pattern of comments on this site pointed to an organized gang playing tag team

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    Rickey February 20, 2018 at 12:31 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    The big difference between birthers on the Internet and Russian trolls, is that the Russians were effective in getting real people to turn out for rallies.

    I might have accused Orly Taitz of being a Russian operative if she hadn’t been so breathtakingly incompetent.

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    Dave B. February 20, 2018 at 9:59 pm #

    I came across a comment on Quora about how “trump didn’t spend 4 millions to hide his past like Obummer did.” Got me to thinking. Somebody spends $130,000 here, $130,000 there, pretty soon you’re talking real money. I wonder how much all that adds up to?

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    Magician Anthony February 22, 2018 at 3:13 am #

    Don’t forget that the FBI sent the Boston bomber to Russia, the Russians told the FBI and OBAMA fake birth record administration about the Boston bomber and they did nothing just like this last school shooting. They where told about the shooter and did nothing!

    Also the people who made the birth records in 1961 said they did not stamp OBAMA’s fake ass birth record because the word African wasn’t used on birth record’s until after 1989! They used the Term Negro until then. The supreme court ruling changed that from Negro to African now.
    http://now8news.com/u-s-government-removing-the-term-negro-reprinting-over-22-million-birth-certificates/

    The people whos tamped the birth record’s in 1961 are willing to testify they did not stamp OBAMA’s fake birth record thank you!

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    Pete February 24, 2018 at 10:04 am #

    Open thread is back.

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    Dr. Conspiracy February 25, 2018 at 5:56 pm #

    Of course the comment is total nonsense. The parent’s race on a birth certificate is today and was in 1961 whatever the parent says it is. No African like Obama Sr. would have called himself “Negro.” Black Africans in 1961 called themselves “African.”

    See:

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/07/the-african-race-the-final-chapter/
    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/04/the-african-race/

    The certification stamp on Obama’s birth was applied in 2011, not 1961.

    The fake news article linked is equally absurd. The Supreme Court doesn’t “sign amendments” to laws, and the National Center for Health Statistics doesn’t issue birth certificates. States issue birth certificates. Any real news article would have specified what the Supreme Court case was.

    Magician Anthony:

    Also the people who made the birth records in 1961 said they did not stamp OBAMA’s fake ass birth record because the word African wasn’t used on birth record’s until after 1989! They used the Term Negro until then. The supreme court ruling changed that from Negro to African now.
    http://now8news.com/u-s-government-removing-the-term-negro-reprinting-over-22-million-birth-certificates/

    The people whos tamped the birth record’s in 1961 are willing to testify they did not stamp OBAMA’s fake birth record thank you!

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    Reality Check February 25, 2018 at 5:59 pm #

    All birth certificates should be well tamped. That way the seeds don’t get washed away in the rain.

    Who invited the idiot?

    Magician Anthony: The people whos tamped the birth record’s in 1961 are willing to testify they did not stamp OBAMA’s fake birth record thank you!

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    Dr. Conspiracy February 25, 2018 at 7:02 pm #

    One wonders how someone found the open thread this late in the game. Of course I had to approve the comment.

    Trader Jack left one too, totally uninteresting, and it was deleted.

    Reality Check:

    Who invited the idiot?

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    Reality Check February 26, 2018 at 10:28 am #

    Normally I don’t make fun of other people’s typo’s because Lord knows I make enough of them myself. However, I found that one unusually funny.

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    Reality Check February 26, 2018 at 10:33 am #

    I know it’s not like the days when you had a lot of activity with new articles almost on a daily basis.

    I still have one Birther who leaves a vile comment or two per week on my blog. He seems to have a lot of homoerotic fantasies and is convinced a lot of us are going to jail any day now. I am not sure why he puts so much effort in leaving them since it takes me less than 5 seconds to zap them.

    Dr. Conspiracy: One wonders how someone found the open thread this late in the game. Of course I had to approve the comment.

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    Rickey February 26, 2018 at 6:26 pm #

    Reality Check:
    All birth certificates should be well tamped. That way the seeds don’t get washed away in the rain.

    Speaking of seeds, I checked out some of the other stories on that website and found these:

    Student Arrested For Bringing Semen Filled Cupcakes To Kids That Bullied Her At School

    This incident supposedly happened at Central High School in Bakersfield, CA, but there is no Central High School in Bakersfield.

    Government Offers Free Birth Control for Muslims and Immigrants in Exchange for Welfare Benefits

    Supposedly a law supported by John Boehner!

    82 Year Old Man Eaten By Pigeons On Alabama Park Bench

    The site has a combination of both real and fake stories, but none of them are dated.

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    Reality Check February 27, 2018 at 12:53 pm #

    Sounds like it’s right there with the Post & Email as a reliable source for news.

    Rickey: Speaking of seeds, I checked out some of the other stories on that website and found these:

    Student Arrested For Bringing Semen Filled Cupcakes To Kids That Bullied Her At School

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    Rickey February 28, 2018 at 7:14 pm #

    Laity’s cert petition has been distributed for the conference on March 16. The respondents waived their right to respond, so it has been dead filed – no surprise, especially since Laity’s petition doesn’t address the reasons for the dismissal of his lawsuit.

    I believe that this is the last birther case.

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    bob February 28, 2018 at 7:17 pm #

    Sheila Zilinsky (who???) had Gallups and Zullo on her show.

    The same lies.

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    Rickey February 28, 2018 at 10:34 pm #

    bob: Sheila Zilinsky

    I had never heard of her, but she has a Facebook page where the crazies hang out. She pushes just about every insane conspiracy theory you can think of. One of her followers says that Obama is going to be arrested, charged with treason, and stripped of his presidency. I’d like to know how that last part works under the Constitution.

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    Pete March 1, 2018 at 12:23 am #

    I keep losing the open thread. It’s not linked from the front page.

    The only way I found it was by putting in http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2018/02/ .

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    Dave B. March 1, 2018 at 12:49 pm #

    Just listening to that now. It’s kind of impressive how many lies Gallups can tell without taking a breath.

    bob:
    Sheila Zilinsky (who???) had Gallups and Zullo on her show.

    The same lies.

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    Dave B. March 1, 2018 at 12:52 pm #

    So Gallups says Zullo knows Arpaio…intimately.

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    Reality Check March 1, 2018 at 12:54 pm #

    I have no doubt that Gallups knows Zullo intimately.

    Dave B.:
    So Gallups says Zullo knows Arpaio…intimately.

  30. avatar
    The Real Zodiac Killer March 1, 2018 at 1:36 pm #

    Breaking: The Zodiac Killer, Nancy Ruth Owens, is alive and is the Obama Forger!

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    Dr. Conspiracy March 1, 2018 at 1:54 pm #

    Another YouTube crisis actor video goes viral:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/21/business/media/youtube-conspiracy-video-parkland.html

    Article talks a bit about how it happened.

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    bob March 1, 2018 at 3:50 pm #

    Laity’s cert. petition (the last birther challenge) will be considered (read: denied) at the March 16 SCOTUS conference. (Denial to be published on March 19.)

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    Sef March 1, 2018 at 4:20 pm #

    Reality Check: That way the seeds don’t get washed away in the rain.

    Speaking of which, the postman has delivered my 2018 Burpee’s catalog. At least we still get that loooong after Sears and Monkey Ward Christmas catalogs became a memory.

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    RAJO March 1, 2018 at 8:50 pm #

    “resent in this case) similarly show that the State’s birth certificatesare about more than genetic parentage. For example, when an Arkansas child is adopted, the State places the child’s original birth certificate under seal and issues a new birth certificate—unidentifiable as an amended version—listing the child’s (nonbiological) adoptive parents. See Ark. Code §§20–18–406(a)(1), (b) (2014); Ark. Admin. Code 007.12.1–5.5(a) (Apr. 2016).”

    The birth certificate will not show as amended , why do you belie]vef any birth certificate shows the true parents, and their marital status.

    [Why do you waste my time telling me what I already know and that has no relevance to the discussion? I had over 30 years experience with vital records software systems, writing my first birth certificate printing system in 1978. I know about adoptions and birth certificates.

    It has no relevance because a) Barack Obama wasn’t adopted, as shown by numerous contemporary sources including State Department FOIA, newspaper announcements, family and friends, and b) Obama’s long-form certificate is a certified photocopy of a hospital filed certificate. In the case of adoption, the long form would be sealed and only a short form issued. Doc.]

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    Reality Check March 2, 2018 at 10:55 am #

    The last open Birther case is going to die in a couple of weeks. I commented on Laity v NY, et. al. in a blog post.

    Last Birther Case Scheduled to be Executed on March 16th.

    I am not counting Cody Judy’s dead case that he tries to flog back to life by writing letters to Neil Gorsuch.

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    Pete March 2, 2018 at 4:25 pm #

    The Real Zodiac Killer: Breaking: The Zodiac Killer, Nancy Ruth Owens, is alive and is the Obama Forger!

    AJNTSA.