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“Natural Born Citizen” at law

Guess Essay by tes, reprinted by permission.

I was playing around on Westlaw last night and found a few more federal and state court cases either noting, or directly addressing, the nature of citizenship of children born to foreign parents and/or citizenship by birth. So, I’m summarizing them here just as FYI. Note that I believe that there are actually dozens (and dozens) of more cases like this – I just didn’t have the time to go through the several hundred cases that were returned by my search. However, this is just a smattering of interesting ones that caught my eye. Links are provided where I could find a publicly accessible version of the case.

Mustata v. US Dept. of Justice, 179 F.3d 1017 (6th Cir. 1999) (children born in US to two Romanian citizens described as “natural born citizens” of the US):

Petitioners Marian and Lenuta Mustata are citizens of Romania. At the time of their petition, they resided in Michigan with their two minor children, who are natural born citizens of the United States.

DeTomaso v. McGinnis, 970 F2d 211 (7th Cir. 1992) (equating “natural born citizen” with “native born citizen” for purposes of presidential eligibility):

DeTomaso is “eligible” to be President of the United States if he is “a natural born Citizen … [who has] attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.” Art. II § 1 cl. 5. A 35-year-old native does not have a property interest in the presidency.

Diaz-Salazar v. INS, 700 F.2d 1156 (7th Cir. 1983) (child born in US to Mexican citizen is “natural born citizen” of US):

Petitioner, Sebastian Diaz-Salazar, entered the United States illegally [from Mexico] in 1974 and has been living and working in Chicago since that time. *** The relevant facts which have been placed before the INS, BIA, and this court can be summarized as follows: The petitioner has a wife and two children under the age of three in Chicago; the children are natural-born citizens of the United States. (more…)
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The Great Mother of all Native Born Citizenship Pages

There seems to be strong historical evidence that the founders of the country considered native born citizen and natural born citizen the same thing. Consider the following from commenter Ballantine and see of you don’t agree:

No court has ruled on NBC. The court has not defined many terms, but that does not mean a definition is in doubt. Even if it was in doubt, the court will look to all early legal authorities to define such term…

With respect to native birth, Wong stated that since the common law was adopted, all children born in the US are generally native born citizens. You are simply trying to read an implication into a choice of terminology. The court made clear the English common law rules controlled and under the common law all the native born (subject to common law exceptions) were by definition “natural born.” I think you need to refresh your Blackstone as you would see there are only 2 classes of people at birth under the common law, the natural born and the alien born. The natural born were also referred to as natives. There is no authority anywhere that says there is a difference between native and natural born under the common law.

Finally, here is a list of early authorities saying that the president needs to be native born citizen or a native. Take notice it includes the most influential scholars of the early republic that court consistently relies upon. If you or Leo [Donofrio] disagree with this multitude you need to find authority to the contrary. Clearly, there you have no such authority.

“No man but a native, or who has resided fourteen years in America, can be chosen President.” Elliot’s Debates –DEBATES IN THE CONVENTION OF THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA, ON THE ADOPTION OF THE FEDERAL CONSTITUTION, pg 195-196 (statements of future Supreme Court Justice James Iredell, July 30, 1788).

“That provision in the constitution which requires that the president shall be a native-born citizen (unless he were a citizen of the United States when the constitution was adopted) is a happy means of security against foreign influence,…” St. George Tucker, BLACKSTONE’S COMMENTARIES (1803) (more…)

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When will the Birthers be happy?

Once again, we read a long discussion, with a rational-sounding style, laying out the facts, so it appears, about citizenship in the United States. Is it reasonable and is it true?

Our guest commentator has doubts, and responds to When will the Birthers be happy?


ARTICLE SAYS: World Net Daily, has actively covered many of these issues relating to Obama’s eligibil[i]ty over the last 8 months and have a collection of all eligib[i]lity related articles. See http://bit.ly/147bkD

RESPONSE: Interesting to note that, before the issue seemed such a potential publicity boon, WND reported that its own experts determined the COLB to be authentic:

“OBAMA’S CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH UTILIZING FORGERY EXPERTS ALSO FOUND THE DOCUMENT TO BE AUTHENTIC. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren’t originally there.”

WND also reported that the claims that Obama lost any hypothetical American citizenship he had as a child is not supported by US citizenship law:

“In short, the suit claims Obama was not born an American citizen; lost any hypothetical American citizenship he had as a child [ITALICS IN ORIGINAL(Editor's note: This point is not supported by U.S. citizenship law)END ITALICS]; may not now be an American citizen and even if he is, may hold dual citizenships with other countries. ….

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The story behind the fake military oath

April Fools Day is an appropriate time to tell the story behind the satirical report that sent the anti-Obama crowd into a frenzy. I wrote about it briefly in my article Military Oath Change Farce Fools Orly. The Jumping In Pools blog, where this originated, is lot of fun to read. I’m pleased to present the story behind the farce heard ’round the world.

I’m a history student right now, and politics really interest me. I have no love lost for the current President, but I’m not one to believe the crazy thoughts being thrown around the web. However, knowing a little about history and the feelings that some on the right wing of the Republican and Libertarian parties, it behooved me to jump in the fray.

So I started to write work that was tailored to my audience. Being a Republican, my work wasn’t going to break out with the left-wing crowd. I’d written satire before, but nothing that really hit it big. I had written about how MIT declared Obama to be genetically superior to the average man, but nothing really exploded.

oathSo I remembered my history of the Third Reich and the fact that Hitler had the troops swear allegiance directly to him, and not the Weimar Constitution. So I threw some official names on it, gave some juicy details, and tagged it ‘satire.’ But I didn’t spread it. I went to bed that night, and noticed by 2:30 the next afternoon, my site had had over 1,000 views, which was a nice accomplishment. By the end of the day, lots of blogs and forums had spread it (not to mention email) and it had ballooned into over 17,000 hits. By today, that article must have gotten a lot of attention. (more…)

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Orly Blog Soetoro Fact Check

Orly's Recent Post by "Linda O" Proclaims Proof that Obama used the name Barry Soetoro at Occidental. (more...)

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Factchecking Lynn Stuter’s latest

Factchecking Lynn Stuter’s latest, The Traitors in Congress, NewsWithViews.com, Jan. 13, 2009.

Ms. Stuter continues her record of continually publishing provably inaccurate information as “true” and “undisputed fact.” Let’s take a look at her latest missive.

Lamenting that Congress certified President Obama as President-Elect, accepting the Electoral College vote, Ms. Stuter then purports to cite a list of “undisputed facts” (more…)

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Petition for Redress of Grievances – Examined

Revised Draft Redress Petition
PETITION FOR REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES
REGARDING THE FAILURE TO CHALLENGE THE CONSTITUTIONAL QUALIFICATIONS THE PRESIDENT ELECT, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA II TO SERVE AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

INTRODUCTION
WHEREAS, the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides, in part, that “Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of…or the right of the people…to petition the government for a redress of grievances”;

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