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Fogbow down: Obots absquatulated?

Update: Fogbow Back up.

imageFirst it was Orly blocked by an “attack page” warning, and now probably the foremost anti-birther web site, The Fogbow, is down. It’s down, grounded. Trailing clouds of glory, it’s down! (Talk like that makes me hungry.)

You know, I was seriously considering moving this site to the company Foggy uses. :shock: Whatever the problem is, it effects many sites hosted by his company, so unless this is a massive false flag operation, Foggy is not en route to Belarus or Paraguay or wherever Obots are supposed to absquatulate to, when “any day now” becomes today.

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Double standard

[This article originally appeared as a comment at Birther Report.]

On the way back from Philadelphia, I read the exchanges between Foggy and the resident birthers and I wanted to make a few general observations on them.

If you don’t already know, Foggy likes to poke a stick in the birther ant hill. Of course the FBI isn’t tapping Zullo’s phone. What in earth’s name for? A really savvy birther wouldn’t take such things seriously, even for a joke.

What was interesting was that birthers immediately brought forward the contradictory claims that Foggy was disbarred AND that he resigned from the California Bar. It doesn’t seem to bother folks that these are contradictory, not even when they come from the same person!

A reference to my article, "To sue or not to sue: Chapter 2" was made, accompanying the question of what happened to a suggested lawsuit by Foggy against Jerome Corsi for libel. Foggy did consult a defamation lawyer about that case, but the upshot of it was that while Foggy could trivially prove that he was libeled, he could not show that it damaged him.

The most entertaining part of the discussion was the irony found in comments. Foggy made a claim about this FBI intelligence and everybody jumped on him saying that if he had any such transcript or evidence, that he should make it public immediately–and at the same time commenters like Joe Mannix were defending the Cold Case Posse, making equally outrageous claims of universe shattering secret evidence, from having to back up their claims and publish their evidence.

If I were to write all this up as an article on my site, I would title it, "Double Standard."

The Fogbow Meetup 2014

I am in Philadelphia for the Fogbow Meetup. Anti-birthers and their spouses have been filtering in from across the country. I am very pleased to finally meet some folks face-to-face. Generally, I’m not going to talk about who’s here for privacy reasons (feel free to announce yourself). Foggy and Roxy7655 are here.

I don’t get on the Fogbow forum much, what with all the time I spend here and other places, and it’s good to catch up. One thing that I noticed is that there are more lawyers among the anti-birthers than I realized. It’s really a very sophisticated crowd with some rich personal narratives. It’s also enriching for me, who lived my entire life in the South, to hobnob with folks from other parts of the country.

It seems that that the order of conversation is: finding out who the person you are talking to is, briefly how crazy the birthers are, and then something totally different. A group of us went to see the Barnes Art Collection and I have now exceeded my life quota for Renoirs.

Birther Report violates its own privacy policy

I mentioned in comments recently that I had added a privacy policy to this site. One of the reasons for doing so is a requirement from Google that sites using their Analytics offering provide a privacy policy disclosing that Analytics is being used.

I dropped by Birther Report just now to see if they have a privacy policy policy, and they do. Here’s what it says under the section “What do we use your information for?”:

Any of the information we collect from you may be used in one of the following ways:
; To personalize your experience (your information helps us to better respond to your individual needs)
; To improve our website (we continually strive to improve our website offerings based on the information and feedback we receive from you)

In a later section, they talk about disclosure to third parties:

We do not sell, trade, or otherwise transfer to outside parties your personally identifiable information. This does not include trusted third parties who assist us in operating our website, conducting our business, or servicing you, so long as those parties agree to keep this information confidential. We may also release your information when we believe release is appropriate to comply with the law, enforce our site policies, or protect ours or others rights, property, or safety. However, non-personally identifiable visitor information may be provided to other parties for marketing, advertising, or other uses.

With that background, consider this published item at BR (image courtesy of The Fogbow):

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What you’re looking at is an IP address and an email address (both comprise personal identification) of a commenter at Birther Report, AlabasterDoll, a sock puppet of Bill Bryan (aka Foggy) that had been posting at BR for several weeks. Birther Report provided this information to the commenter Falcon, who then published it. That appears to be a clear violation of their privacy policy.

Falcon’s own remark is odd: “By the way – I think I accidentally vacuumed up all the emails in this address. So sorry. I’d hate for those to get out.” Of course, there is no way to accidentally access someone’s emails.

Foggy then said that he had reported Falcon to the FBI for hacking his emails (read the exchange at The Fogbow), but then Falcon denied that he had gotten Foggy’s emails. Looks like Falcon was playing chicken and flinched first.

I trust that this violation of its privacy policy by Birther Report is a one-time aberration that that they will begin to adhere to their policy or change it.

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Where is Mike Zullo?

Last night on Reality Check Radio, Foggy was substituting for RC. Foggy discussed the question: Where is Mike Zullo? The question was raised by a birther over at Birther Report, Ed from W. Va.:

where’s zullo ? this is the same question I keep asking to mike volin in e – mails to him . him and others are sticking their necks out on this fraud and zullo is no where to be found or heard from .

I called in and we bandied about some thoughts about Zullo’s absence. In fact, Zullo has been keeping a low profile of late, not appearing on any radio programs or making any public appearances that we know of for about a month. Carl Gallups isn’t mentioning him. Partly in jest, we suggested some reasons why Zullo’s not been visible of late:

  1. Increasing pressure from the IRS over the two citizen complaints sent to the IRS (unlike what Douglas Vogt is doing, the anti-birthers use a legitimate mechanism to report to the IRS) has forced Zullo into hiding.
  2. Sheriff Arpaio has told Zullo to shut up after a complaint was filed with his office about the defamation of Foggy and Reality Check by Zullo and Carl Gallups on the latter’s radio show not long before Zullo’s disappearance, in which Zullo stated that he is in close communication with Arpaio and that Arpaio approves of everything he is doing.
  3. Zullo is interned in the FEMA facility in Canon City, Colorado. (This facility is disguised as the Garden Park High School.)
  4. Zullo is ill with some “horrific affliction.”™

Right after the RC Radio show I got a call from Mike Volin. I had sent him an email earlier reminding him of my offer to be a guest on his Blog Talk Radio show and he called me about it. He’s still considering my offer. Mike’s show schedule is irregular, but he had done one last night before he called. Volin says that he has to be careful, and I can understand that. I think back to the small flare-up I had over an extended phone conversation with Orly Taitz where she reported some things I said not quite accurately and in context. At least on a radio show, everybody hears the exact words and the context.

While I had him on the phone, I took the opportunity to ask Mr. Volin about the last of those possibilities for Zullo’s absence. Volin seemed prepared for the question, saying that he had talked to Mike Zullo just last Sunday, and that Zullo was “taking a break from politics” explaining what he meant by that—that Zullo was still investigating, but not making public appearances right now. Volin suggested that Zullo had been extremely busy dealing with all the communications and questions related to the investigation.

Foggy noted that Zullo was scheduled to make an appearance at the Deer Valley Tea Party in Phoenix on December 6, and speculated that Zullo won’t appear. We’ll see how that turns out.

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