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Hagmann demands apology from Conservative media

I’ve only mentioned Douglas J. and Joe Hagmann a couple of times in the context of an birther interview they aired on their nightly Internet program on BlogTalkRadio, the Hagmann & Hagmann Report and their “Northeast Intelligence Network.” The father and son duo describe themselves as career investigators.

I don’t know which Hagmann is speaking in a new YouTube Audio  featured at Birther Report. But after listening to some of it, I wanted very much to write this article so that the previous article will scroll down from the top of the blog.

Hagmann demands an apology from the Conservative media for ignoring the birthers, now that they have been shown to be right all along. :shock: Well no, I don’t know how and where they have been proven right. Hagmann primarily engages in the birther gambit of burden shifting, claiming that no one can prove to his satisfaction the details of Barack Obama / Barry Soetoro’s biography. He reiterates that no one knows who Barack Obama is, although Hagmann is sure he’s a Muslim/Communist/Marxist, and defends that clashing list. Hagmann doesn’t know because he refuses to look at the excellent biographical material available.

Hagmann has some notion that Obama’s education was funded by the Saudi Finance Minister, the evidence for which he says consists of some bread crumbs. He asks the leading question: how could some one like Obama have gotten into an elite school without a backer? (I think that was a crumb.)

So the meat of this article, such as it is, addresses that question. The simple answer to the question of how Obama got into elite colleges is that he went to an elite high school, Punahou Academy. The Wall Street Journal listed Punahou Academy as one of the top feeder schools for the most selective colleges and universities in the nation. How did he pay for it? Financial aid and student loans.

How did Obama afford to go to that very elite private high school? That has a simple answer too: financial aid and the sacrifices of his grandparents.

The Conservative media has a lot of things to apologize for, but dissing the birthers is not one of them.

Doug Vogt’s mystery forger, revealed!

Thanks to a commenter here for pointing me to this important news. Yesterday was a big day for birther Internet radio, with great stories of the Sheriff’s Kit from Mike Volin and an extended interview with Douglas Vogt on the Andrea Shea King show.

On the King show, Douglas Vogt discloses somewhat how he concluded the name of the person responsible for what he thinks is a forged Obama birth certificate. Here’s a transcript of the exchange (show time 44:28 ):

Vogt: The forger signed his birth certificate. Ask yourself if you’re a forger, and you’re doing the greatest forgery in history, one that you have a foreign agent to go, to become leader of the country, to destroy it from within. Wouldn’t you do some mark to sign it, that you could say  you did this great work? And guess what? She did. That’s what happened.

King: And when she signed it with her mark, what was her mark?

Vogt: Oh, it was a mark. She literally spelled out every letter of her l– of her, I’m not going to say what part of the name, but a part of her name. You got it? She either added,  damaged, or damaged every letter that makes up part of her name. You got it? … It’s every–She damages deliberately, and I’m not gonna say where, but most of it is in one location, and another letter she, she basically, she took a letter and she rotated it, which is impossible on typewriter. It’s a joke. And everyone, it spells her, part of one of her names. …

The sealed document [with the forger’s name] you’re not gonna see. It is sealed. It is only in the court. The judges have seen it and the clerk has seen it, but supposedly nobody else. But you can get a gist when you go into type letter part, the typewriter part, you’ll get the whole picture. When you get into the registrar’s stamp and the letters, the different letters, you’ll get a picture of what’s going on. … You’ve got some of the clues.

Now if I were a forger guilty of treason and the crime of the century, the last thing I would want to do is leave behind incriminating evidence. And if I really thought that someone’s life were in danger if sealed information became public, I wouldn’t be dishing out clues on the Internet. But hey, that’s just me, and I really don’t know anything about being an arch criminal, nor for that matter about being a birther. Continue Reading →