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Lax birth registration in Hawaii?

Where’s the evidence?

Despite Mike Zullo’s representations, citing Verna K. Lee, of a highly precise and error free operation of the Hawaii Health Bureau’s Vital Statistics division in 1961, when it suited his purposes in interpreting a race code on the President’s long form birth certificate, Zullo at the same time asserted that registration procedures were lax and that persons got birth certificates that shouldn’t have.

Larry Klayman in his recent petition to have Obama deported makes similar statements asserting the lax version of Hawaii Health Bureau operations, following in the footsteps of Mike Zullo, who stated in his “Alabama affidavit”:

…due to a loop holes in the state of Hawaii’s vital statistics reporting laws, there was the distinct evidence suggesting that Hawaii’s statutes appeared to be in conflict with federal immigration law and posed an independent threat to the national security of the United States.

Zullo later specifies what this loop hole is, citing HRS § 338-17.8 “Certificates for children born out of State” of which Zullo writes:

By statutory provision Hawaii has granted upon itself the unique power to confer citizenship to children not born in the United States, and to children not born to United States citizen parents, but to children actually born on foreign soil.

Zullo is lying. Nothing in HRS § 338-17.8 confers citizenship, and indeed no birth certificate of any kind by any state “confers” citizenship. A birth certificate is proof of the facts of birth, where, when and to whom. One need but look at any Hawaiian birth certificate to see that (1) it states where the birth occurred and (2) it says nothing about citizenship. Zullo also fails to disclose that HRS § 338-17.8 didn’t even exist when Barack Obama was born (it was passed in 1982).

Zullo goes on to assert lax procedures by citing statutes, which does not contain detailed procedures. What he does not show is the administrative procedures, regulations and policies in effect.

Klayman puts the story together in his petition, saying:

One of the main reasons that this entire topic is controversial and difficult is that Hawaii became a State on August 21, 1959, and as a very new State in the 1960’s was extremely lax in creating birth certificates for those not born in Hawaii or anywhere else in the United States of America. Hawaii not only had to work out procedure to operate as a new State but also had a culture of openness and relationship to nations throughout the Pacific Rim – recall that Kenya is a coastal nation along the Pacific Ocean / Indian Ocean – which allowed very loose concepts of Hawaii citizenship and immigration.

As a result, Hawaii routinely and by standard legal procedure issued birth certificates for children who were not born in Hawaii or anywhere in the United States. Furthermore, Hawaii allowed birth certificate to be issued based on the unverified claims of one or both parents – anyone signing for them (such as a grandparent).

People assume that the existence of a birth certificate from Hawaii proves a  birth in Hawaii, when Hawaii law at the time is explicit that a parent could lawfully request a birth certificate from Hawaii for a child born in a foreign country.

Searching over a several year period, various researchers have found repeated listings of birth to Japanese parents as being reported in the newspapers as Hawaiian births, even though the child was found to be born in Japan. In 1961, Hawaii Department of Health appears to have used local area offices outside Honolulu as reporting centers in which parents and other family members could present children born to the family as Hawaiian births, without submitting any proof that the child was actually born in Hawaii.

The problem is a so exacerbated by the more limited scope of medical care and government at the time. As a result, births outside of a hospital were not rare.

For the most part, Klayman is lying. The first lie is the suggestion that Hawaii had to scramble to put together vital records procedures when it became a state in 1959. In fact, Hawaii had been a US Territory since 1898, and the statutes for vital records in effect when President Obama was born in 1961 dated to 1955 (revised in 1959).

Klayman descends to the silly when he cites Kenya as a country of the “Pacific Rim” (see Pacific Rim map below). It may be that Klayman does not know where the Pacific Ocean is.

NotPacific Rim

Next, Klayman says: “Hawaii law at the time is explicit that a parent could lawfully request a birth certificate from Hawaii for a child born in a foreign country.” The statute for issuing out of state births was passed in 1982, not “at the time” when Barack Obama was born.

Klayman rambles on about registration procedures when a child is born, not attended by a doctor, while dishonestly failing to mention that Barack Obama was born in a Honolulu hospital with a birth certificate signed by a doctor. Klayman fails to provide any regulations or administrative procedure documentation whatever to back up his claim of lax requirements. He doesn’t know what the requirements were and just assumes there weren’t any.

Klayman mentions alleged Japanese children listed among births in Hawaiian newspapers. He cites “various researchers” studying “a several year period.” He doesn’t name the researchers, he doesn’t specify the period, and he doesn’t cite a single birth. In fact, to my knowledge, no birther has ever provided a specific instance, and no reason has been given to believe any of it. Klayman got it from Zullo, and Zullo, as we know, gets his facts from birther web sites.

One almost gets the impression that Klayman thinks Hawaii in 1961 was some kind of third world country with “limited scope of medical care,” and goes on to suggest that births outside of a hospital “were not rare.” Where did he get that notion? If Klayman had actually bothered to do minimal research he could have found that, according to the Vital Statistics of the Unites States for 1961, in the United States as a whole, 97 out of every 100 births were delivered in Hospitals (p. 1-13) and according to 1961 VSUS statistics for Hawaii, there were 17,578 births, of which 17,516 were in a hospital and attended by a physician, or more than 99 out of 100! Hawaii had a higher percentage of hospital births than the rest of the country. Indeed only 0.35% of Hawaiian births were not in a hospital attended by a physician! And this is what Klayman says is “not rare.” The guy is a first-class idiot.

If indeed vital records procedures in Hawaii were so lax, and all manner of abuses were prevalent, why is it that Klayman and his entire birther tribe have not been able to cite one single instance of vital records fraud in the history of the State of Hawaii, and only one example from the Territory of Hawaii, 110 years ago!

It’s a vicious circle. Zullo cribs from birther web sites. Klayman cribs from Zullo. The birthers then cite Zullo and Klayman as authorities.

Court watch

Nothing happening here. Move along.

Alabama Supreme Court decisions were announced this past Friday and the McInnish case was not among them, and while we’re on the “Dog bites man” theme, Orly Taitz fizzled in Hawaii.

I read the order from Judge Mollway saying that Taitz had on January 9 withdrawn her request for an emergency stay of the cremation of Loretta Fuddy, which as far as I know was never intended. In any case, the interment of Fuddy is long passed and the business between Taitz and The Hawaiian Memorial Park Mortuary is over. Since the emergency stay was all there was in the original filing, Judge Mollway dismissed it, noting that if Taitz wants to file something else with different defendants, she will have to file a new case (and this means another $400 filing fee). Taitz said that she did not sleep for 48 hours, and this rebuff of her 135 pages and 30 exhibits must have been disheartening, but it appears that the Federal District Court in Hawaii is not going to let Taitz file lawsuits and tie them to different lawsuits under the same case number events pass her by. The transmogrified lawsuit is directed at the Inspector General of the US Postal Service, where again Taitz wants to be able to present her arguments and zibits to a grand jury, and of course Taitz is already suing the Postal Service

There is of course another reason why any court action regarding the disposition of Loretta Fuddy’s body is moot (at least according to the birthers) because she is still alive and in the federal witness protection program according to commenters at the Taitz site.

Taitz had another reading comprehension failure. Here’s the headline from her web site [link to Taitz web site] regarding the Taitz v. Colvin FOIA lawsuit.

Press release: after Judge Hollander denies motion for summary judgment by the SSA, the feds are replacing the attorney on the case

Well it is true that the government did switch attorneys, but here’s the misunderstanding from the order she linked to:

1. Defendant’s Motion to Dismiss (ECF 7) is GRANTED, without prejudice and with leave to amend;

2. Plaintiff’s Motion for Summary Judgment (ECF 9) is DENIED, without prejudice;

3. Plaintiff shall have 21 days from the docketing of this Order to file a second amended complaint.

It wasn’t the SSA who moved for summary judgment and lost, but Taitz. The government moved for a dismissal of the amended complaint, which was granted. Maybe she should get more sleep.

Orly Taitz: Who the hell does she think she is?

The excesses of Orly Taitz

Orly Taitz: I have an urgent petition to bring before the court.
Judge: The clerk will file the petition with the other urgent Taitz petitions.
Taitz: But your honor, this is an emergency.
Judge: The clerk will file the petition with all the other emergency Taitz petitions.
Taitz: Your honor, you don’t understand. This is of universe-shattering extreme importance.
Judge: The clerk will file the petition with all the other universe-shattering Taitz petitions of extreme importance.
Taitz: But, but, but …
Judge: The clerk will please hand Ms. Taitz the court’s thesaurus.

In this instance, we’re at the opening emergency stage. Taitz says that she filed suit in the US District Court in Honolulu to prevent the cremation of Hawaii Department of Health director Loretta Fuddy, who died earlier this week in a small plane crash. (I was not able to confirm the filing on the US District Court CM/ECF system.)

Who does the hell does think she is?

Taitz is not family, nor law enforcement. She’s not the owner of the aviation company, the FAA or anybody with a personal interest in Fuddy’s unfortunate death. Taitz is exactly nobody, representing no one but herself, and her petition [PDF at Taitz web site] will go exactly nowhere, whether the it’s 1 page or 64.

Somehow having filed birther lawsuits makes Taitz think she has some special privilege. Here she makes this plain:

… Taitz is a plaintiff and co-plaintiff in a nuber (sic) of legal actions. One of such actions is in the state of MS, where deceased Loretta Fuddy was a defendant until the day of her death.

Taitz then goes on do detail other lawsuits of which she (but not Fuddy) is a party. Previously Taitz believed her status as a plaintiff bestowed on her extensive supra-governmental privileges such she stated back in 2010:

“I am uniquely the person to exercise moral power above government, as in Queen of England.”

Sorry, the stricken text was  an April Fools joke.

Our Friend Barry

I’ve not spent much time on the subject of Barack Obama in Hawaii, and that’s my loss. Because of the recent birther flurry over Mia Marie Pope’s interviews, claiming that she met Obama during two or three summers1 when she and her parents stayed in a hotel in Honolulu. She described Obama as a “pathological liar,” a homosexual and a coke head, I’ve spent some time looking back at Obama in Hawaii, and contrary to what Pastor Manning said, there is a wealth of information coming from Obama’s actual classmates.

Photo of Punahou School buildingOne source is the excellent film, “Barack Obama Made in Hawaii.” Another is a book from 2008 titled, Our Friend Barry: Classmates’ Recollections of Barack Obama and Punahou School, edited by Obama classmate Constance F. Ramos. I started going through the book specifically to refute Mia Marie Pope, and I found plenty of source material for that. Clearly the President was known as Barry Obama and not Barry Soetoro as Pope claims. Pope also said that it was impossible to get in Punahou school unless you started there in kindergarten. Most of the classmates in the book started later.

But once I got past the debunking, there were some insights about Obama. Punahou was an elite school, and Obama rubbed shoulders with doctors’ kids and the children of bank presidents. But there were other kids from two-income families an some, like Obama on financial aid. The poorer kids were conscious of their clothes. Most people in Hawaii are mixed race and Obama did not grow up in the atmosphere of racial prejudice that he would have experienced had he been raised on the mainland. In Hawaii, the racial distinction was between Asian and non-Asian.

Some remembered Barry as “genuine and grounded in himself”–others that he was a leader. There’s a neat story about a tuna sandwich.

Somehow these recollections make everything so much more real and human. It’s nice.

1The exact time is fuzzy. Pope always says 1977, but sometimes she says she was aged 13-14 and sometimes 14-15.

In defense of Foggy & RC

I dropped by The Fogbow forum this morning to see if anything was up, and I noticed a few posts in defense of Foggy in the wake of some smears that appeared at Obama Release Your Records, and apparently on the Carl Gallups Freedom Friday program this past week (which I haven’t listened to). Frankly, I never thought to come to the defense of Foggy because criticism of him from the likes of Carl Gallups and Mike Zullo is about as meaningful as someone scribbling his phone number on the wall of poorly maintained gas station public restroom (you just want to get out of there as fast as possible).

I will say this: some of the best folks I have encountered in my life were people who had to struggle at some point. They are more effective and more compassionate than folks on average. I respect Foggy for being the man he is and getting through his tough times.

At the same time Gallups has been taking potshots at RC, shots unlikely to hit home since he doesn’t even know where to aim. While RC’s identity would be totally uninteresting if you knew it, I think not knowing it is a major difficulty for the Cold Case Posse. They claim to be this high-powered law enforcement organization, but they can’t even figure out who one little Obot is. In fact, all of the so-called investigation of the Cold Case Posse is just stuff that birthers feed them and that’s how they know who Foggy and I are. (Actually I was first “outed” by a commenter at the old Orly Taitz web site back in 2009, with some detail of my work history plus some nonsense. At that time the domain was registered under my real name.) They couldn’t investigate themselves out of a paper bag, and they have no backing from the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office, who regard the Posse as an embarrassment. So just as Zullo has done time and time again when he was in a jam, he got Carl Gallups to lie and say that they know who RC is but for some inexplicable reason, they are keeping it under wraps. It’s under wraps because if you removed the wraps, nothing would be there.

The latest fru fru at Obama Release Your Records is talk of an Obot mole. Falcon wrote:

Zullo appears to be asking for collaboration against the others using the info supplied by the mole.

Sounds like RC sold out the o-holes and went to Zullo after his cell phone meltdown and decided he had enough.

Fagbow – you have a mole.

Nate Spencer said:

From what I know Dr. Richard C. Rockwell is the best suspect. I believe that he has flipped over to the CCP and is ratting out the obots that are involved in the conspiracy. Commander Zullo is not ready to expose Reality Check at this time because he is working for the Commander.

Photo of Reality Check with Smiley Face covering real faceBut the Obots know who Reality Check is already (and it’s not Rockwell), so exactly why is Zullo keeping it under wraps unless it’s all a lie and he doesn’t know?

I can, however, confirm that RC has ratted out to the CCP the forger of Obama’s Long Form PDF. He told them it was a Xerox Workcentre 7655 multi-function office machine.

I suppose I should make some remark in defense of myself while I’m at it. Falcon wrote [bold face removed]:

Dr. Conspiracy / Fat Ass Davidson involved in Hawaiian vital records – sold software for a half a million dollars to Hawaii.

That’s simply not true: my ass is not all that fat—the weight is in front. I don’t know who provided the vital records software used by the State of Hawaii, but I know it wasn’t the company I worked for. Big software procurements are matters of public record, so I would presume that they wrote it in house. I wanted to look at a report on vital statistics systems in the US, but it said:

Due to the lapse in federal government funding, this website is not available.
We sincerely regret this inconvenience.

I have now been officially inconvenienced by the shutdown of the Federal Government. Crying face

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All about EVVE


The Electronic Verification of Vital Events (EVVE) system is a national network exchanging information between government agencies to verify birth events. It’s a hub-and-spoke architecture centered at the National Association for Public Health Statistics and Information Systems (NAPHSIS), of which I used to be a member. Let’s say that you want to get a drivers license. You show up at a DMV office with your ID and your birth certificate. In years past, that birth certificate contained security features to show the DMV that it was authentic. That’s not as important now. With EVVE, the DMV sends an electronic query to NAPHSIS who brokers it to a state vital records server, which then verifies (or not) the information and routes the reply back to the DMV. If the birth certificate is fictitious or altered, EVVE will say so. This electronic wizardry is designed to support the REAL ID Act of 2005. I had some tangential involvement with EVVE implementation early on.

Most states have EVVE implemented today [link to Microsoft PowerPoint file], although not every implementation has all of their records in electronic form. Hawaii has birth records back to 1909 online for EVVE (well done, Hawaii, well done) while Connecticut only has records since 1993—tough luck to George W. Bush if he wants to get a drivers license verified through EVVE. :twisted: New York isn’t online yet.

This electronic system and the REAL ID Act might have been the reason Doug Vogt imagined that federal law required all states to store electronic images of their birth certificates. EVVE, however, doesn’t work with images; it works with text.

Security paper

Most vital records fraud involves real certificates carried by someone other than their owner. That’s why a photo ID is necessary in addition to a birth certificate to get a passport. EVVE pretty much eliminates fictitious and altered certificates, but for records not in the EVVE system, there’s still the fall back security built into certificates, specifically, security paper and seals.

Security paper isn’t designed to copy well (or be easily altered). This means that anyone trying to do scanning experiments with President Obama’s long form birth certificate is at a severe disadvantage without some real security paper to test with and this is why it came as such a shock to me when I saw Cold Case Posse document darling Garrett Papit testing with a sample birth certificate clearly NOT on real security paper. Not that the Cold Case Posse results had any validity to to begin with, but at least they could have forked out $25.90 for a pack of off-the-shelf basket weave security paper. So where are all those PayPal donations going?


I’m no expert on security paper, but I know a lot more than the average guy. When I worked on vital records projects for the State of South Carolina, I became familiar with the security features on their certificate. If you showed me anything less than a spy-grade fake for a 1977 SC certificate, I could spot the fake in a second–and without even a magnifying glass. I don’t know if my technique is public knowledge or not, so I won’t say anything more about that except to note that intaglio printing with machine engraving was used on the certificate and the pale colored background rubs off if you try to erase it. Following is a wallet-sized specimen certificate from South Carolina used by county offices in 1977, intentionally scanned at a low-enough resolution to obscure details.

I had a conversation with a vital records official who showed me some of the publicly-known security features in that state’s certificate. They included tonal gradations, micro printing and thermal ink. She said that if she showed me the other security features, she would have to kill me. (By mutual agreement, I was not shown the other security features.) If you’ve ever received a pay check from ADP, an out-sourcing payroll company, you’ve seen the three features I mentioned (the thermal ink is on the back). I attended a seminar by a fellow who helped design the ADP payroll check who talked about its features. Finally, I sat for hours on end in a trade show booth, next to the booth of the American Bank Note Company who was pitching their portfolio of security features to state officials. Some banknote certificate paper can cost upwards of a dollar a sheet.

It has always puzzled me how simple a Hawaiian certificate is, compared to the specimen above, an ADP check, or the the Indiana certificate that I received a tour of. There are Hawaiian birth certificates on banknote security paper for some years that I have seen (but don’t have a handy link to). On the other hand, I have never actually seen an actual certified copy of a Hawaiian Birth Certificate. There may be security features not picked up on any scan. Somebody said that there was UV ink on it. Perhaps it relates to how far back Hawaii has their records available for verification online.


Since this article was originally published, I have obtained some Simpson DesignSecure™ Basketweave Pattern security paper that appears to be very much like the paper used by the State of Hawaii.