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Persistence

Birthers are nothing if not persistent. There are several videos at YouTube where a particularly odious birther posting under the name of ford5522 comments. He doesn’t reply in a materially significant way, but he does reply in a way that I might call a negative robotic style. Whatever you say, he calls it lie and throws back an insult. ford5522 claimed that Obama’s birth certificate number is wrong and I replied, saying that ford5522, nor any of his birther ilk, had any experience with vital records, where I had 30 years’ experience. I said that the certificate number was normal. He replied:

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+Kevin Davidson LMAO !  So you really have zero idea or any experience of how the certificates are numbered ! To put in terms you retards can understand !  YOU LIED !    LMAO !   Trying to make yourself out to be more then what you are !   Or give yourself credentials you don’t have ! SURPRISE  !  Not one person was fooled ! This Obama clown brigade 101 !  LMAO !    I agree there are people that know things . You are not one of them !  You are no more then a clown repeating what other clowns told…

This guy has been commenting on those videos for months. I stopped replying in general a long time ago, but I still get the Google alerts, and occasionally I make a comment, and when I do, ford5522 is right back at me.

I am reminded of The Fogbow’s motto: “Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.” I contrast that to another approach: “you get nowhere beating your head against a brick wall.” I guess the wisdom is knowing which situation you’re in. In the case of ford55522, I go with the brick wall.

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Leo Donofrio: Natural born conspiracy theorist

I came across Leo C. Donofrio first in connection with his Obama and McCain eligibility lawsuit in New Jersey, Donofrio v. Wells. My short biographical page on him was published in December of 2008; there would be many more articles to follow. Donofrio is known famously, or perhaps infamously, as the inventor of a new meaning for the constitutional term “natural born citizen,” the proposition that US Presidents must be born in the country to two citizen parents.

Donofrio showed a conspiracist bent right from the first with his novel claim that US President Chester A. Arthur conspired to keep his father’s naturalization status  (Irish) a secret by lying about his age and burning his papers just before he died. In truth, his father’s nationality was known, but not widely discussed because that was before Donofrio came up with a theory where it mattered.

photo at right by Carlos De Deios © Filminco Productions 2011.) In addition to being a lawyer, a professional poker player and rock musician, Donofrio is also a filmmaker working under the pseudonym Jet Wintzer. To his credit is a film titled Towers, about a post apocalyptic world where most people have been destroyed by radiation from cell phone towers. Donofrio plays a survivor named “DJSpectacle” (photo at right by Carlos De Deios © Filminco Productions 2011). Donofrio’s other film credits include Colourfly (2012) and The Art of Forced Collaboration (2013).

Donofrio’s new film,  NASA NOT SOUND, according to its YouTube trailer, promotes the claim that Moon landing video footage from NASA is fake because one can hear sounds allegedly transmitted through the vacuum.

I have never decided in my own mind whether Donofrio believes any of the stuff, or if he is just trying to prove how smart he is by fooling other people.

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Fogbow fields fresh forum format: folks find few flaws

Visitors to The Fogbow forums today found a new look presented by new forum software, IP Board. While many topics are covered at The Fogbow, I know it as the most active of the anti-birther online venues. Existing content and user accounts were migrated to the new software. You can read the details of the conversion process and what’s happening here and listen to “Foggy and Dr. Ken Answer Questions about IP Board” tonight (25 August) on RCRadio at 8 PM (UTC-4).

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I personally like the new look that I find cleaner and easier on the eyes. The new software has a few cool features; for example, if you hover your mouse over a user’s hyperlink (not the avatar), a little window pops with information about that user including what they are doing.

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Search is neatly consolidated into a single search bar with options:

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There is also a mobile version of the forum, accessible automatically on mobile devices (here shown on an iPhone) with a button (not shown) at the bottom to switch to the full site:

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A number of rough edges remain after most of the big stuff has been ironed out. Externally-hosted user avatars didn’t convert, so those users will have to upload those images. The nifty search is also not working. Firefox users will be flying without a spell checker, although Chrome is said to check spelling OK. At present the venerable [sekrit] tag isn’t implemented (I think it’s called “spoiler” now). In a few instances, the BBCode isn’t being interpreted.

So go check it out.

Counting Obots

Thanks to a commenter here for pointing me to a comment at Birther Report by a commenter named Rhodalicious. It’s the quote of the day now, and a longer version of this despairing remark about inactivity from the Cold Case Posse appears in the Quote Archives.

These days it can be hard to tell whether a commenter at a birther site is a birther being outrageous, or someone imitating a birther being outrageous, so I took a moment to look at the Intense Debate profile for Rhodalicious to get a sense of where they are coming from. I rather liked this one:

In about 5 billion years the Sun is going to run low on fuel. At that point, it will expand to become a "red giant" star, and its diameter will exceed the orbit of Earth, meaning that the Earth will be incinerated.

I’m hoping that Sheriff Arpaio and Mike Zullo will see fit to release their evidence at least a few years before then.

I found a pattern of frustration about the Cold Case Posse’s inaction, but I found something else more interesting: There is a screen shot from a profile page, I presume from The Fogbow, showing the number of users on the site. I won’t reproduce it here, but you can view it from the Intense Debate link. Someone had said, How many of them [Obots] are left these days — 6 or 8? The comment’s reply was that The Fogbow had more than 8000 posts in June and on the day he checked there were 1,247 users online in a 24-hour period. Rhodalicious notes that at least one person online (and I recognized others) was a birther.

Fogbow down: Obots absquatulated?

Update: Fogbow Back up.

imageFirst it was Orly blocked by an “attack page” warning, and now probably the foremost anti-birther web site, The Fogbow, is down. It’s down, grounded. Trailing clouds of glory, it’s down! (Talk like that makes me hungry.)

You know, I was seriously considering moving this site to the company Foggy uses. :shock: Whatever the problem is, it effects many sites hosted by his company, so unless this is a massive false flag operation, Foggy is not en route to Belarus or Paraguay or wherever Obots are supposed to absquatulate to, when “any day now” becomes today.

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The Fogbow Meetup 2014

I am in Philadelphia for the Fogbow Meetup. Anti-birthers and their spouses have been filtering in from across the country. I am very pleased to finally meet some folks face-to-face. Generally, I’m not going to talk about who’s here for privacy reasons (feel free to announce yourself). Foggy and Roxy7655 are here.

I don’t get on the Fogbow forum much, what with all the time I spend here and other places, and it’s good to catch up. One thing that I noticed is that there are more lawyers among the anti-birthers than I realized. It’s really a very sophisticated crowd with some rich personal narratives. It’s also enriching for me, who lived my entire life in the South, to hobnob with folks from other parts of the country.

It seems that that the order of conversation is: finding out who the person you are talking to is, briefly how crazy the birthers are, and then something totally different. A group of us went to see the Barnes Art Collection and I have now exceeded my life quota for Renoirs.