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Birther ballot challenges: big loss in Virginia

Judges across the country are weighing in on the the question of Presidential eligibility in the wake of a bevy of birther challenges to the 2012 candidates.

In Virginia, Charles Tisdale filed such a challenge in federal court against not only Barack Obama, but also Mitt Romney and Ron Paul. The results were embarrassing for the birthers, as Judge John A. Gibney, Jr., United States District Judge for the Eastern District for Virginia wrote, dismissing the case that alleged the candidates were ineligible because of their parents’ citizenship:

It is well settled that those born in the United States are considered natural born citizens.

The judicial comments are piling up (with similar decisions in Illinois and Georgia) and they are not friendly to the likes of Donofrio,  Taitz, Hatfield, Irion and Apuzzo.

 

Tisdale v Obama et al

Madison v. Madison

“Constitutional researcher” P. A. Madison plays fast and loose with his sources.

The two “Madisons” are contemporary self-identified “constitutional researcher” P. A. Madison, author of an article on the Federalist Blog that is the topic for discussion here, and James Madison, framer of the Constitution, Congressman and 4th President of the United States.

This web site recently featured President James Madison in the article James Madison on Birth and Allegiance.

In a speech before the House of Representatives in May of 1789, James Madison said:

It is an established maxim, that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth, however, derives its force sometimes from place, and sometimes from parentage; but, in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States.

Abridgment of the Debates of Congress, from 1789 to 1856 From Gales and Seatons’ Annals of Congress; from Their Register of Debates; and from the Official Reported Debates, by John C. Rives By United States. Congress, Thomas Hart Benton

P. A. Madison, on the other hand asserts the opposite, that place of birth alone does not and cannot grant citizenship in his article, Defining Natural-Born Citizen. We know P. A. Madison from an earlier article challenging the citizenship of children born in the United States to illegal aliens, something true today under the Supreme Court decision in United States v. Wong Kim Ark. P. A. Madison disagrees with that decision and presents an alternate view of history (from the legal and judicial survey in the Wong decision) in which parentage matters. Continue Reading →

James Madison on Birth and Allegiance

James Madison

James Madison

James Madison of Virginia, framer of the Constitution, member of Congress and 4th President of the United States is often called “The Father of the Constitution”. The Federalist Papers, co-authored by Madison, was influential in turning the tide of popular opinion in favor of the ratification of the Constitution.

In a speech before the House of Representatives in May of 1789, Madison said:

It is an established maxim, that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth, however, derives its force sometimes from place, and sometimes from parentage; but, in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States.

Abridgment of the Debates of Congress, from 1789 to 1856 From Gales and Seatons’ Annals of Congress; from Their Register of Debates; and from the Official Reported Debates, by John C. Rives By United States. Congress, Thomas Hart Benton

Thanks to contributor Ballantine for the citation.

White Hats v. Black hats

Dr. Conspiracy

Dr. Conspiracy

Tom Kovach

Tom Kovach

There’s an article over at Dr. Orly entitled “The Obama Ambush” by Tom Kovach.

You know what they always say: The Good Guys wear White Hats.

Tom was grousing that after his telling the military to stop taking orders, the “83rd Network Operations Squadron out of Langley AFB, Virginia). And, apparently, they erased my blog.” Continue Reading →

The Great Mother of All Natural Born Citizen Quotation Pages

Partial lists don’t carry the full impact of citations scattered here and there. This project is to collect everything accessible and to the point into one place If it takes much context or argument, a brief reference and a link is included. I promise you that the quotations will mean the same thing when you read them here than they mean if you read the larger context, and the larger context will be linked to the text. No tricks, no deception.

For additional citations, see The “Natural Born Citizenship” Clause (Updated) to whom this article is indebted for some of these citations. And for EVEN MORE citations see SCOTUS & “Natural Born Citizen” – A Compendium, Books on Google that define “Natural Born Citizen” and History of US citizenship laws.

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