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Santilli loose on the White House lawn?

Mike Volin was on the Pete Santilli radio show a few days ago. A YouTube video has part of the show, and a discussion. From the show:

Santilli: I’m going to offer this to Mike Zullo, all right? Do you believe, based on the information you have on your web site, the investigation that Sheriff Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse has investigated, do you believe that right now, that if you were to put everything into a basket, OK, or a brief case, that there is enough information, set aside “willing to” or “not willing to,” set that aside. Is there enough information right now that could get Barack Obama arrested if we apply the law, that he has broken the law and he needs to go behind bars, and of course in a court of law all this evidence needs to be presented. But is there enough evidence to throw him in jail?

Mike Volin: Absolutely, beyond any shadow of a doubt.

Fox NewsSantilli: OK, here’s what I am going to offer up to you. You ready? You can do this. I could call up Mike Zullo and offer this. I’m not going to. OK? I’m going to put out a challenge to Mike Zullo and Sheriff Arpaio. With the assistance of law enforcement, if they have information right now that shows that Barack Obama has committed fraud, has perpetrated fraud upon the American people, tell him I’ll meet him in front of the White House and I will volunteer with them, with with the assistance of law enforcement and the United States Marine Corps and the Secret Service, I will jump over, with the assistance of course of law enforcement, lawful and constitutional, of the front fence of the White House and go in there and deliver that information of course they probably will just let me go. They won’t stop me, of course. But if there’s enough evidence, OK, that he’s broken the law, I would be prepared in order to bring this to the American people. I’ll live stream it, if Zullo will meet me out front. I’m not going to wait until an election. If he wants to meet me, I’ll jump on a flight, right now and I will meet him in front of the White House, on principal, on law, on Constitutionality, and with the help of law enforcement, with the military, with the Secret Service, with the Department of Justice, all of those people, I’d volunteer do that. And if they want to arrest me, I’ll bring evidence to court to show that I am justified in doing so, on behalf of the people of the United States of America. Will you get that information to Mike Zullo?

This is what I heard in all of that. Pete Santilli, unwilling to stand for election, has made himself the representative of the American people, and has offered to lead a military coup against the President of the United States. While he talks about “Constitutionality,” he totally ignores the Constitution in several ways. He ignores the fact that our Founders set up a system of checks and balances, and it is the Congress of the United States that the Constitution assigns the power to remove a President upon conviction for “high crimes.” It is not assigned to the military, the Secret Service, the Justice Department, law enforcement or some talk show host. The second major unconstitutional flaw is in the Bill of Rights (part of the Constitution):

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger…

It is the opinion of prior US Attorneys General that a sitting President cannot be indicted or arrested for a crime. To allow that would impede the functioning of government and violate the separation of powers under the Constitution.

Santilli just wants to jump over the fence with his information. Of course Santilli would be arrested (assuming he wasn’t shot on sight) just like any other fruit cake who tries such a stunt. Santilli would never have the opportunity to present any of his birther “information” before the court because it is irrelevant to the crime of violating the Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011. Who made Pete Santilli the representative of the American people? I seem to recall that Barack Obama is the one elected President.

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Buy high, sell low

I stumbled across this January 27, 2o14 video by Jerome Corsi titled: “Take Retirement Money out of Stock Investments ASAP!” In the video Corsi advises:

I’ve been warning for months that the stock market bubble we’re in is going to burst. … Right now, get out of any stock investment that you have in your retirement fund. … Sell your stock fund now. Listen to my advice.

His more nuanced complete narrative advises moving all ones funds from stocks to bonds and money market funds. He doesn’t say when the bubble will burst, only that it will. One of the valid points he makes is that one might make this move for “peace of mind.” Of course, Corsi is doing his best to disturb the peace in the video.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average closed at 15,837 on January 27, and today at 17,137, up 8.20%. Bonds didn’t do nearly as well. I suppose if one waits long enough, the stock market will eventually go down, but so far this is not the year for that.

Anybody can be wrong, but Corsi seemed so sure!

My favorite YouTube title is: “Interview with Jerome Corsi who really killed Kennedy.”

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Hagmann demands apology from Conservative media

I’ve only mentioned Douglas J. and Joe Hagmann a couple of times in the context of an birther interview they aired on their nightly Internet program on BlogTalkRadio, the Hagmann & Hagmann Report and their “Northeast Intelligence Network.” The father and son duo describe themselves as career investigators.

I don’t know which Hagmann is speaking in a new YouTube Audio  featured at Birther Report. But after listening to some of it, I wanted very much to write this article so that the previous article will scroll down from the top of the blog.

Hagmann demands an apology from the Conservative media for ignoring the birthers, now that they have been shown to be right all along. :shock: Well no, I don’t know how and where they have been proven right. Hagmann primarily engages in the birther gambit of burden shifting, claiming that no one can prove to his satisfaction the details of Barack Obama / Barry Soetoro’s biography. He reiterates that no one knows who Barack Obama is, although Hagmann is sure he’s a Muslim/Communist/Marxist, and defends that clashing list. Hagmann doesn’t know because he refuses to look at the excellent biographical material available.

Hagmann has some notion that Obama’s education was funded by the Saudi Finance Minister, the evidence for which he says consists of some bread crumbs. He asks the leading question: how could some one like Obama have gotten into an elite school without a backer? (I think that was a crumb.)

So the meat of this article, such as it is, addresses that question. The simple answer to the question of how Obama got into elite colleges is that he went to an elite high school, Punahou Academy. The Wall Street Journal listed Punahou Academy as one of the top feeder schools for the most selective colleges and universities in the nation. How did he pay for it? Financial aid and student loans.

How did Obama afford to go to that very elite private high school? That has a simple answer too: financial aid and the sacrifices of his grandparents.

The Conservative media has a lot of things to apologize for, but dissing the birthers is not one of them.

Triple-scrubbing the birthers

A birther by the name of Lawrence Sellin wrote an editorial at Birther Report titled, “Managing Expectations About the Cold Case Posse.” Sellin wrote:

I was, like many, disappointed in the interview with Mike Zullo of the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Cold Case Posse (CCP) conducted by Carl Gallups on his May 23, 2014 Freedom Friday program.

Falcon, a frequent BR commenter, responded: “Add Sellin to the whining crybaby list.”

I thought Sellin’s remarks were pretty mild, talking about what needs to happen for the Posse’s investigation to have the greatest impact on Obama. Mild as it was, it is widely believed (including by the management at Birther Report) that this editorial, along with commenter remarks at Birther Report is what got Carl Gallups upset and led him to say some nasty things about the birthers in a YouTube audio that casts aspersions on them generally, and attacks certain unnamed birther web sites. “Jealous” and “whiners” he called them. The Birther Report then published its own editorial saying that Carl Gallups was out of line:

Yesterday Carl Gallups published an audio update for his Freedom Friday show basically vilifying the whole so-called birther movement and lashing out at prominent (unnamed) birther sites. I’m guessing he is specifically referring to Birther Report, and assume (was also told by multiple sources) it was related to an op-ed that was published here yesterday by distinguished writer Colonel Lawrence Sellin, P.H.D. (sic).

From that, a firestorm of commentary erupted.

Could the birther movement implode in a mass of infighting?

If one were to describe the result in a way negative towards the birthers, one might say that they just covered it up and pretended it didn’t happen. If one were speculating in a more positive way, they might say that cooler heads agreed to retract what was said. However it is positioned, the Sellin editorial, the Gallups YouTube and the Birther Report response with all the discussions attached have been scrubbed.

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I personally felt that the Gallups YouTube was totally out of line, and that it would likely be scrubbed and I said so at the time and saved a copy. Also my written transcript remains available. You can recover individual remarks from BR commenters through their Intense Debate profile, for example mine or Falcon’s. The Wayback Machine doesn’t have the page, but as of this writing, the Google Cache has the Sellin article and the BR response editorial.

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Cultivate bemusement

Obama laughs over birth certificate controversy

When President Obama released his birth certificate to the world on April 27, 2011 (a date that will live in history), he said that he had watched the birther story “with bemusement.” Obama himself has minions to keep tabs on the birthers: political aides to see if there’s anything of substance to respond to, and the Secret Service to keep tabs on any birthers who show symptoms of rabies. He doesn’t think about birthers much any more, according to a speech he made to the National Action Network convention in New York City yesterday. Speaking about Voter ID laws, the President quipped [11:12 in the video]:

imageAnd just to be clear, I know where my birth certificate is, but a lot of people don’t. [crowd laughs] A lot of people don’t. [Obama chuckles] I think it’s still up on a web site somewhere. [Obama chuckles and shakes his head] You remember that? That was crazy. [crowd laughs] That was some crazy stuff. [crowd and Obama laughs] I haven’t thought about that in a while. [Obama shakes his head and laughs]

Business Insider has an article: “Obama Laughs About ‘Crazy’ Birth Certificate Questions.” [I had a problem with Firefox locking up on that page, and had to use the Chrome browser.] A lively discussion appears there with a number of below average birthers participating. The discussion reveals a subculture of birthers who are even more clueless than the ones we deal with most frequently, saying things like:

  • Harrison Bounel is Michelle Obama’s cousin.
  • The Acton and Dystel bio appeared on the inside flap of Obama’s book.
  • No legitimate PDF document has layers.

The better-informed (relatively speaking) birthers at Birther Report are trying to read hidden significance into the remarks through the analysis of Obama’s microexpressions. One said:

I think Mike would agree, at 21:09 he twitches the right side of his mouth and face like I’ve never seen him do before.

Some contextually challenged folks think that Obama is acknowledging in the video that a lot of people don’t know where the President’s birth certificate, but he’s saying that a lot of people don’t know where their birth certificate is. See “Obama Admits People Don’t Know Where His Birth Certificate Is” at The Daily Dose of Conservatism web site. A commenter there thinks the video has been scrubbed :roll:

Other birthers are whining because Obama insulted them. See “Here Is Obama’s Latest Insult To Birth Certificate Skeptics” at Western Journalism.