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Comment to Alan Keyes about harassment

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Dr. Conspiracy

Alan Keyes wrote an article:

Obama Threatens Keyes and other Eligibility Plaintiffs

I replied:

The Keyes v. Obama lawsuit is based on a presidential order that:
1. Only applies to new hires after mid April 2009
2. Only applies to contractors and civil service employees
3. And explicitly excludes its use as a cause of action (lawsuit).
Surely you know that the lawsuit doesn’t have any chance of prevailing whatever.

Convince me that the lawsuit is not harassment or part of a smear campaign. And if it is, is not some kind of sanction warranted?

Note: I made a mistake here. The Keyes web site thread I was posting to was about Keyes v. Bowen, not Keyes v. Obama. So he brushed it aside. The man is very adept at sidestepping issues.

I posted this second comment later:

You said: “Though not unexpected, this motion confirms Obama’s ruthless determination to destroy anyone who continues to seek the information the Constitution requires.”

I would think you would read the motions filed in your own lawsuit instead of reading WorldNetDaily’s tabloid-style headlines. The motion filed does NOT request damages. The threat is there in the declaration, but not in the motion.

I posted a couple more. We’ll see what he says.

Dr. Keyes,

You said:

“So if unjust judges will slam the door against efforts to obtain justice, we should cease them or suffer penalties? I’m glad the attorneys fighting Jim Crow segregation didn’t follow that servile logic.”

Playing the race card?

The martyrs of the Civil Rights movement faced fire hoses, dogs and even death. You have a lot of nerve equating their suffering with your whining over somebody making you pay court costs.

The Civil Rights movement was a real cause of action. Your lawsuit is a poorly written political smear cobbled together from rumors and misstatements of law, only good enough to fool some bloggers, but not a judge, and so your subpoenas will be quashed, and your case will be dismissed like all the others your lawyers copied.

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16 Responses to Comment to Alan Keyes about harassment

  1. avatar
    william February 18, 2009 at 9:01 am #

    Very funny site, keep the wingnuts on their heels with reality and ACTUAL facts Doc!

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    Obot 1024 February 18, 2009 at 11:43 am #

    And Dr. Keyes’ “reasoned” response to your 2nd comment.

    “I see. “the threat is there” but we should act as if it isn’t. Sounds like the posture Obama worshipers want from the rest of us with regard to everything he’s up to. Heads down, eyes closed. Should we also get down on our knees? Maybe put our hands behind our backs? ):”

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    GeorgetownJD February 18, 2009 at 3:59 pm #

    Wow, and this guy wants us to believe he would have been Presidential. The way he comports himself, he would have ignited a foreign relations incident by his second week in office.

  4. avatar
    Obot 1024 February 18, 2009 at 4:58 pm #

    “Wow, and this guy wants us to believe he would have been Presidential. The way he comports himself, he would have ignited a foreign relations incident by his second week in office.”

    That he was in the State dept for Reagan boggles the mind.

    Perhaps he was a good deal saner 25 years or so ago?

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    myson February 18, 2009 at 6:03 pm #

    What happen ? what did he do back then ? I only read he was ad ambassador ???

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    richCares February 18, 2009 at 6:58 pm #

    besides being Reagon’s ambassdor, he was famous for disowning & kicking his kid out of the house for “gasp” being gay.

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    mimi February 18, 2009 at 8:02 pm #

    “Though Keyes is sometimes referred to as “Ambassador Keyes,” the title is misleading since he only served as the U.S. ambassador to the UN Economic and Social Council under Ronald Reagan’s administration, not as ambassador to the UN or as an ambassador to a country. He is notable for his unsuccessful campaigns for the U.S. Presidency in 1996 and 2000, and for the U.S. Senate in 1988, 1992, and 2004, as well as his often outlandish far-right rhetoric.”
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    “…That year, Keyes vehemently defended the Reagan policy against the imposition of economic sanctions on South Africa as punishment for apartheid. This was an unpopular position within the African American community, and Keyes was derided by other Black leaders. Keyes resigned in protest over a disagreement in relative United Nations funding. Keyes today remains a vocal critical of UN activities and policies.”

    more here…

    http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Alan_Keyes

    But… his real problem today is that he lost the Senate Race to Obama in Illinois. This is not surprising. He’s lost every election.

  8. avatar
    myson February 19, 2009 at 3:49 am #

    Interesting !!! All the champions of the cause seem to be so flawed in there own way.
    No wonder they cant get good lawyers to represent the cause

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    Obot 1024 February 19, 2009 at 9:42 pm #

    Doc,

    Here’s Keyes’ response to your corrected question in which he implies that you favor segregation.

    “Dr. Conspiracy,
    So if unjust judges will slam the door against efforts to obtain justice, we should cease them or suffer penalties? I’m glad the attorneys fighting Jim Crow segregation didn’t follow that servile logic.
    Is it just a coincidence that in order to defend Obama you must implicitly deny the virtues and ideals people who won real breakthroughs for racial justice put into practice?”

    This from a guy who defended Reagan’s see no evil policy regarding South African Apartheid.

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    Obot 1024 February 19, 2009 at 9:45 pm #

    “besides being Reagon’s ambassdor, he was famous for disowning & kicking his kid out of the house for “gasp” being gay.”

    That’s “street cred” with the lunatic right wingers.

  11. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy February 19, 2009 at 10:15 pm #

    I let him have it. See up top.

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    Hitandrun February 23, 2009 at 4:44 pm #

    Thanks, Doc, for challenging Amb. Keyes at his site from time to time. I find the emanant light/heat ratio atypically high for such exchanges. Perhaps you and Dr Keyes could formalize these ongoing Internet conversations on a dedicated thread, to be published concurrently on both your and his sites. Have you broached the idea with him yet?

    Hitandrun

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    Dr. Conspiracy February 23, 2009 at 10:46 pm #

    Every time I try to debate Keyes on an issue, he sidesteps it, and then invokes patriotism or racism or some other grandiose theme. It’s a total waste of time trying to engage him on the issues.

  14. avatar
    Bob March 11, 2009 at 6:34 pm #

    That is one clever blog spambot!

    Thankfully, my ED needs are covered.

  15. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy March 11, 2009 at 7:01 pm #

    That’s only the second one like that that’s made it through the spam filter.

  16. avatar
    anon in ca March 13, 2009 at 7:24 pm #

    Keyes lost his case today. (Keyes v. Bowen)
    Bowen’s demurrer – Sustained Without Leave to Amend
    Obama’s Motion to Quash Subpoena – Granted