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Somebody maybe threatened Orly

It looks like someone posted the following comment using the name Aziz on Orly’s blog, which she quoted in an article asking “someone” to trace the IP address of the commenter, who said:

The shootings in Texas at military base happened because they were worried about being deployed to iraq – BECAUSE OF THE LIES YOU HAVE MADE UP ABOUT THE PRESIDENT.

You have incited terrorism now with your lies and you will probably burn for it. The government can get you and charge you for not only sedition but inciting terrorism.

Thank Allah Orly will finally burn!

The IP address points back to our favorite “Democratic nuthouse area” [not my words], Everett, Washington. It’s an interesting IP address, having been used by:

Looks like a serial commenter. I wonder what happened in September.

62 Responses to Somebody maybe threatened Orly

  1. avatar
    kimba November 5, 2009 at 8:33 pm #

    Of course it’s an IP from Washington. Washington is the cradle of the whole Obama conspiracy. Where the Dunhams plotted with their Communist co-horts to bring into this world a golden child who would rule the world!!! Everyone in Wash State is IN on the conspiracy. Sheesh, it’s so obvs Doc.

    Apparently the Ft Hood shooter was on LE radar because of his internet posts. Wouldn’t it be ironic if he was linked somehow to Orly, even if just by posts?

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    misha November 5, 2009 at 8:54 pm #

    Let her have a taste of what she has been dishing out. Just like Glenn Beck. They can dish it out, but can’t take it.

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    thisoldhippie November 5, 2009 at 10:09 pm #

    Maybe I have missed something, but from the articles I have read the shooter at Fort Hood didn’t have a religious affiliation, yet on Orly’s blog she is blaming it all on Muslim males ages 20 – 40. Talk about racist.

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    misha November 5, 2009 at 11:19 pm #

    She’s an Islamophobe. She also has every screw loose.

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    Preston November 5, 2009 at 11:32 pm #

    Judge Land and now judge Carter, smack down the crazies (case dismissed), poor little Birthers.

    Not even “Fake News” Bill O’Reilly believes the crazies, how funny.

    http://belowthebeltway.com/2009/10/29/bill-oreilly-slams-orly-taitz/

    To all the birthers in La, La Land, it is on you to prove to all of us that your assertion is true (TOUGH WHEN YOU KEEP LOSING CASES), if there are people who were there and support your position then show us the video (everyone has a price), either put up or frankly shut-up.

    In my opinion the Republican Party has been taken over the most extreme religious right (people who love to push their beliefs on others while trying to take away the rights of those they just hate) and that is who they need to extract from their party if they real want to win. Good Luck, because as they said in WACO, “We Ain’t Coming Out”.

    I heard that she now wants to investigate the “Republican 2009 Summer of Love” list: Assemblyman, Michael D. Duvall (CA), Senator John Ensign (NV), Senator Paul Stanley (TN), Governor Mark Stanford (SC), Board of Ed Chair, and Kristin Maguire AKA Bridget Keeney (SC).

    I wonder if she is a mail order bride, just like her law degree? She is perfect reporter material for “Fake News”, where unfounded rumors and innuendo reign supreme , unlike a our US courts of law, where you need to present documented facts, not half baked lies (prepare for more failures).

    A lawyer, dentist, realtor and black belt, WOW I must say a JACK of all trades master of none.

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    Welsh Dragon November 6, 2009 at 3:32 am #

    “Henry Tisdale: Freedetainees.org, August 9, 2009”

    This seem to have been ‘Henry Tisdale’ reposting the post on Orly’s site the previous day rather than him using that i.p. address.

    BTW the i.p. address is likely to be a cellphone tower.

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    Laurie November 6, 2009 at 7:18 am #

    Orly is definitely an Islamophobe. However, NPR was reporting this morning that the shooter was, in fact, a devout Muslim. Of course, we do not know if the attacks were religiously motivated though it is certainly possible.

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    misha November 6, 2009 at 7:43 am #

    When the IP address location is stated, it is the server, not the actual person. Every time I check mine, it has me in another county – that’s where the server is.

  9. avatar
    Laurie November 6, 2009 at 7:45 am #

    Orly has posted an affidavit she intends to file in the Barnett/Keyes case. She claims under penalty of perjury that she never encouraged her followers to contact Judge Carter!!!

    She also protests the credence Judge Carter gave to unsubstantiated affidavits accusing her of perjury. I actually have a bit of sympthay for her on that one. I am not sure I am comfortable with a judge expressing his opinion on such an affidavit in a written opinion that he knew would be widely read when the lawyer involved has not had an opportunity to respond ot it.

    Orly’s affidavit then descends into typical wingnuttery, including innuendo that Obama had his gay lover killed, a discussion of his social security numbers, and an opinion that he needs to spend a long time in prison for multiple felonies. Pure Orly goodness!

  10. avatar
    misha November 6, 2009 at 7:46 am #

    Hitler and Mussolini could give lessons to bin Laden. They were from Roman Catholic homes.

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    kimba November 6, 2009 at 7:54 am #

    Nidal Hasan is a life-long Muslim.
    “Hasan attended prayers regularly when he lived outside Washington, often in his Army uniform, said Faizul Khan, a former imam at a mosque Hasan attended in Silver Spring, Md. He said Hasan was a lifelong Muslim.”
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting_suspect

    But was born here and grew up here. (nbc ;))

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    wendy November 6, 2009 at 7:56 am #

    IF I was Carter… the statement from Smith, MAYBE was something to be kept separate.
    Except…
    then she goes off (as you say) with everything else under the sun, which clearly shows her to be a raving nut case.
    In other words, like everything she does, if there is ONE LINE which is rational, the rest of it, drowns in her own stupidity.
    Didn’t learn a damn thing from Judge Land, did she?

  13. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy November 6, 2009 at 7:56 am #

    Thanks, I removed it. That leaves us with a almost perfect “one a month” pattern, except for September.

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    Kstreet67 November 6, 2009 at 7:59 am #

    Orly Taitz has issues, that is an immutable fact. However, any threat against any person is cause for concern. Especially if that “person” is percieved to be from the left.

    It seems those on the right can threaten with impunity, as they did at the townhall meetings this summer, brandishing assault weapons and posters that literally threatened the life of the POTUS as well as his supporters.

    In my opinion, however, two wrongs do not make a “right”. We progressives MUST stay above the fray and express ourselves succinctly and humanely.

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    Kstreet67 November 6, 2009 at 8:32 am #

    Correction: Instead of “Especially if that “person” is percieved to be from the left.”…

    …should be: “Especially if that ‘person’ posing the threat is percieved to be from the left.”

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    Abdul Musab Aziz November 6, 2009 at 10:57 am #

    Come on, you lefties should be smarter than this… HOW THE HELL is that a threat? I told her that she is inciting terrorism and the GOV can charge her for it …

    You people are having the same dumb knee jerk reactions the right-wing idiots are having over this.. GET REAL.

  17. avatar
    richCares November 6, 2009 at 11:15 am #

    projection, a common right wing attribute!

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    Abdul Musab Aziz November 6, 2009 at 11:24 am #

    Projection? huh? … I’m asking you to analyze this recent post of mine Orly’s site and tell me how you percieve it to be a threat…

    “The shootings in Texas at military base happened because they were worried about being deployed to iraq – BECAUSE OF THE LIES YOU HAVE MADE UP ABOUT THE PRESIDENT.

    You have incited terrorism now with your lies and you will probably burn for it. The government can get you and charge you for not only sedition but inciting terrorism.”

    –> Telling someone they are going to burn for their crime is most definitely not a threat. It means she’ll be doing time in prison or get the death penalty. Everyone knows Orly is responsible for the Ft. Hood shootings. She’s the only one trying to get military personel to misbehave and disobey orders (especially regarding deployment) …

    I’m glad they are reporting me to the feds, it will lead them right to the person who now has blood on her hands: Orly Taitz

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    misha November 6, 2009 at 11:39 am #

    I am not unhappy about Orly getting a taste of what she and the others have been dishing out. She has been trying to incite a lone wolf for about a year. She is BFF with Wiley Drake, who is proud to call for Obama’s death, and then hides behind the 1st. She published a vicious anti-Semitic rant on her old site, because she wants to curry the right wing.

    Beck is a rabble rouser, and when a website starts on him, he screams like a stuck pig.

    Arabs in Israel are treated the way black people used to be treated here. I’ve seen it. If Orly feels threatened, I am not unhappy.

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    Abdul Musab Aziz November 6, 2009 at 11:49 am #

    Sounds like you are trying to track me down like the right wingers who have expressed a REAL desire to inflict violence upon me. For what is the purpose of your curiosity?

    I’ll post my real info / address if need be. I’m not afraid of any conservative. I’ve never hurt anyone in my life but I wouldn’t regret it for a second if I had to defend my life from one of these psychos and it resulted in a mortal wound.

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    richCares November 6, 2009 at 11:52 am #

    Instead of threatening Orly we should say something nice. There has got to be at least one good thing about Orly, what we need is a contest to find what that good thing is. The winner gets a T-Shirt that say’s “Orly’s one good thing is__________________”. Submit your entries before Orly’s O’Reilly protest on Nov 11.

  22. avatar
    Lupin November 6, 2009 at 12:07 pm #

    “tighter and wetter”?

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    Welsh Dragon November 6, 2009 at 12:12 pm #

    The purpose of my curiousity,at least, is nothing to do with trying to find you. If I was into that you’d be a long way down my list.

    I checked to see if it was the same ip address that Orly’s minions had twice before incompetently identified to an innocent bystander. See the topic ‘The Case of David R___’

    It was and I see Orly’s site has again named David R____ and published his address today, putting him at risk from the ‘crazies’.

    It’s up to you whether you publish your real name and address.

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    Black Lion November 6, 2009 at 12:19 pm #

    I don’t read it as a threat. Especially when you compare it to some of the stuff we have seen written about the President. Orly herself has posted personal contact information about people and encouraged her people to harass innocent individuals. She herself has called for a military coup. So if she percieved someone telling her that she is going to burn for her sins as a personal threat, then too bad for her. I have no sympathy for a Soviet dissident encouraging Americans to ignore the Constitution and not respect our duly elected President.

  25. avatar
    Black Lion November 6, 2009 at 12:23 pm #

    That she’s “better in bed than 99% of the much younger girls I’ve ever met…”

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    Black Lion November 6, 2009 at 12:25 pm #

    I am trying to figure out why is Orly’s fascination with this “Roman Obama”? She has a new witch hunt that she has her people helping her with…

    Submitted on 2009/11/04 at 2:48pm
    “Roman Obama Ekua” is listed as Administrative officer for the Embassy of the Republic of Equatorial Guinea in Accra.

    Answer
    I think he is the one I am looking for. can you find his picture and a picture of David Obama (Ndsandjo, Nydesand), Barack Obama’shalf brother. Can you see if the pictures match? Roman Obama was at the university of Patric Lumumba. There was a news paper article in a newspaper in Washington state, I believe Seattle. Article was sometime between 1983-1985. I need to see if the article was written by the same person as an article announcing hospitalization of Madelyn Payne Dunham (article was last year around October22)

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    Rickey November 6, 2009 at 12:26 pm #

    I agree, what he wrote does not constitute a threat. However, I’m not surprised to hear that Orly perceives it as a threat.

  28. avatar
    Rickey November 6, 2009 at 12:34 pm #

    It took me two minutes to find a picture of him.

    http://www.unyk.com/fr/id/obama-ekua-roman

    I wonder if Orly is aware of the fact that the Roman Catholic archbishop of Malabo in Equatorial Guinea is named Laureano Ekua Obama? She should get her minions working on that connection.

  29. avatar
    misha November 6, 2009 at 12:56 pm #

    Orly’s one good thing is she’s tighter.

    S/Charles Lincoln III
    wileydrake@hotmail.com
    714-522-7201

  30. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy November 6, 2009 at 1:03 pm #

    This commenter’s IP is the same as from Orly’s site.

  31. avatar
    thisoldhippie November 6, 2009 at 1:14 pm #

    I did see the info about being a devout Muslim at 3 a.m. However, if this was motivated by his belief in Islam, it is not a reflection on all Muslims. It is a reflection only on this Major who embraced a radical Islamic belief that is not indicative lf all Islam. To lump all Muslims into this category is no different than lumping all white, Catholic, males into a category with Timothy McVeigh.

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    thisoldhippie November 6, 2009 at 1:19 pm #

    But – those affidavits are not “ex parte” communications. They are filings with the court and are public record. Still, I don’t think they should have been a part of the ruling because she was not allowed to respond.

    On the other hand, to deny you ever encouraged your “minions” to contact the court is pushing the envelope. By allowing posts that do encourage contact and list address and phone number of the Judge on a MODERATED site, is encouraging them in a roundabout way.

  33. avatar
    Abdul Musab Aziz November 6, 2009 at 1:24 pm #

    Of course it’s the same IP and I hope this David guy sues Orly for every penny she’s worth. He would have an unbeatable case against her.

  34. avatar
    JoZeppy November 6, 2009 at 1:45 pm #

    Well, in her typically revolting matter, she’s taking the shooting as a sign from God she’s doing the right thing. From her blog:

    It’s like god is telling you:”pay attention”. My first case on behalf of my client Cpt. Connie Rhodes MD was filed in TX. Judge Xavier Rodriguez have dismissed the case within hours of filing, calling adherence to the oath to uphold the Constitution “a frivolous matter”

    massacare at Fort Hood, connection to my cases or how corrupt judges endanger the Nation

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    SFJeff November 6, 2009 at 1:47 pm #

    “Everyone knows Orly is responsible for the Ft. Hood shootings. She’s the only one trying to get military personel to misbehave and disobey orders (especially regarding deployment)”

    I am hardly an Orly fan, but I am a fan of the truth. We don’t know much of anything yet about the Ft. Hood shooting- let alone if anyone was responsible other than the shooter. And Orly is hardly the only one telling military that Obama is not their legitimate commander.

    I think Orly is a first rate nut job, and is responsible for lots of lies and evil, but I do not “know’ she was responsible for Fort Hood, and neither does anyone else. I doubt this guy will have even of heard of Orly.

  36. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy November 6, 2009 at 2:00 pm #

    Hi Abdul. What happened to David really sucks, and if he decides to sue I’ll be cheering for his side.

    And thanks for coming by the blog. I just wanted to let the other commenters here know that you were the real deal (based on IP address) and not a copycat.

    So what in particular made you decide to post some fairly strong comments on Orly’s blog; I mean, is there some particular thing about her that especially motivates you?

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    G November 6, 2009 at 2:58 pm #

    I agree that what you posted in response to her is not an actual threat. It expresses your opinion that her actions bear accountability for such situations as what unfortunately happened at Fort Hood and that you feel her actions are incitements to terrorists and against our government and therefore, she her conduct is criminal and she should be charged and punished by the government accordingly.

    There is absolutely nothing out of bounds with that and I defend your right to have posted such opinion and not to be persecuted by others for it.

    However, the one clear thing I want to stress is your conclusion creating a linkage at this time between what happened at Fort Hood and Orly’s actions is nothing but your supposition and opinion at this time.

    We do not know yet what the real motivations or reasons for the shooters actions are and I find it irresponsible for anyone to jump to conclusions and try to matter-of-factly “connect the dots” here.

    Are you both correct and right to have the opinion that such actions by Orly & the Birthers (particularly in the military-related plantiff cases) are improper and could lead to either terrorism or seditious acts – YES.

    But are you also drawing conclusions in this particular terrible situation prior to motive or evidence being known that explains what actually happened – YES – and that is wrong whenever anyone does it.

  38. avatar
    G November 6, 2009 at 3:00 pm #

    …she is an endless source of comedy that is crazier than any fictional story one could come up with on their own.

  39. avatar
    Abdul Musab Aziz November 6, 2009 at 3:20 pm #

    Hmm… She’s a better troll than I am …

    I’m working on it though.

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    wendy November 6, 2009 at 3:38 pm #

    2 things.. a while back, I dropped my jaw when she drove to Idaho, to accost Supreme Justice Roberts at a speaking engagement, and gave him a suitcase of documents. THEN crowed, OMG, he SAID HE WILL READ THEM!!
    Seems that she has no concept of the idea of filing ANYTHING, EITHER as part of a valid open lawsuit, or completely off the wall “if he reads this, he will DO SOMETHING”.
    I don’t even want to touch the content of the filings (using the word loosely).

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    The troll of many names November 6, 2009 at 3:46 pm #

    I agree ., I made some insanely far fetched accusations in saying she was connected to the events of yesterday. My point in doing so is my idea that SHE NEEDS her own medicine to come back to haunt her: She has done nothing but start and perpetrate wild vicious rumors against everyone she disagrees with politically. It’s time to start using her own tactics against her.

    and in defense of my trolling of the right wingers: I have absolutely NO respect for these people and an ever increasing disgust and hate for every back handed thing they do. The divide in America is to the point of no return. It would be impossible to heal so it’s a waste of time to even try.

    Perhaps its not healthy for me to hate – – it’s hard not to when these people are positioning themselves as an enemy of the state not unlike the islamic extremists are. The most unstable among them constantly shout for “violent revolution” (in other words, they want to start doing what Bill Ayers did in the past but much worse) — I say BRING IT ON ; push em over the edge and bring em out in the open. They will finish destroying any chance of EVER having power in America again if they do any such thing.

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    wendy November 6, 2009 at 3:50 pm #

    On the contrary.. I think the point being made is that Orly has a pattern of attempting to locate persons who have no involvement in the case at all (people who may or may not be related). Maybe the baker in Indonesia will file a statement that he knows Obama was adopted. It violates ethics, becoming a pure witch hunt.
    Probably many are in agreement that Orly’s conduct, particularly her charges of corruption to the Judiciary, ARE DANGEROUS. Those who cannot grasp the idea that there was no fraud from Obama, seem to think that they should act against other persons. I have said straight out that I believe it is sedition, and can lead to violence.
    Fort Hood is going to stir up many crazies, who have no concern with finding facts first, or seeing it as extending beyond the shooter himself. That is another danger in itself. I don’t see that Ft Hood has a direct connection to the birther issues.
    On the other hand, ORLY creates all connections in her mind, without any evidence. Her “conclusions” are dangerous in themselves. It does not stop her from putting personal information ONLINE, making others possible targets of harassment, or more.

  43. avatar
    richCares November 6, 2009 at 3:53 pm #

    the Winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    wendy November 6, 2009 at 3:56 pm #

    What she is doing is WRONG ON A MILLION LEVELS.
    Beyond healing? I can’t agree with that. Every post I make, here or elsewhere online, is to hopefully make a point of civil communication and being able to discuss differences without malice.
    It does not help to stoop to their level.

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    MsDaisy November 6, 2009 at 3:57 pm #

    Think about it, Orly thinks the entire us government is in on the “Obama Conspiracy”, and all the federal judges are corrupt. She constantly calls for sedition and has posted as much on her website, even calling for a violent overthrow of the government if necessary. Some of the comments other posters have made on her website are even more outrageous than hers, but by publishing them she condones them, thereby continues to promote hate.

    If that shooter can be tied to Orly then I agree it’s time the authorities take charge. Someone needs to stop her anyway before she causes even more violence. Her entire website if full of crazy people.

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    The troll of many names November 6, 2009 at 4:16 pm #

    Wendy:

    I’ve seen your posts on citizenwells blog early this year; you were nice and respectful. All they did in return was make nasty comments, call you names and censor your posts so you couldn’t defend yourself…

    You can’t nor shouldn’t make nice with evil.

    wendy:
    What she is doing is WRONG ON A MILLION LEVELS.
    Beyond healing? I can’t agree with that. Every post I make, here or elsewhere online, is to hopefully make a point of civil communication and being able to discuss differences without malice.
    It does not help to stoop to their level.

  47. avatar
    Jez November 6, 2009 at 4:30 pm #

    She’s helping the economy and cosmetics industry with the shear amount of mascara she requires to perfect her… “look”.

  48. avatar
    wendy November 6, 2009 at 5:37 pm #

    I don’t recall that site, in fact, I avoid most of the rabid ones. But I appreciate your statement.
    If I make a birther mad, it is almost a badge of honor.
    But I still TRY to stay civil and factual.

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    SFJeff November 6, 2009 at 7:39 pm #

    “., I made some insanely far fetched accusations in saying she was connected to the events of yesterday. My point in doing so is my idea that SHE NEEDS her own ”

    If you are doing it to point out the irony, that is one thing. If you are trying to spread lies about Orly because of your hate for her and the far right conservatives, sorry, you are no better than they are.

    The ones willing to lie because they hate- whether they are on the left or the right- are the ones that make reconciliation seem impossible.

    I don’t hate Orly. I think Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh are fairly despicable but hate them? Nope- i bet if I got to know them they probably all have some redeeming feature- hidden way way deep.

    I think there is far too much hate going on and the hate is all making it worse.

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    wendy November 6, 2009 at 8:07 pm #

    edit
    much as I don’t want to let loose of any compliment, to be honest, I have never posted at that site.

  51. avatar
    Paul Pieniezny November 6, 2009 at 8:33 pm #

    Oh dear, Obama must be a covert Roman Catholic!

    As for the Roman Obama at Accra, Ghana – on September 21, this was posted at politijab:
    http://siteresources.worldbank.org/ACCRAEXT/Resources/4700790-1225142330310/AccraLoP.pdf
    (you have to scroll down to find the delegation from Equatorial Guinea)

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    wendy November 7, 2009 at 6:33 am #

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Paranoid_Style_in_American_Politics

    Doc, this is something I ran into, which I think is of interest to our debates. (unless you already covered it, and I wasn’t on board at the time).

  53. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy November 7, 2009 at 12:40 pm #

    It’s an interesting article and I added it to the Bookmarks page. I’m not quite sure what to say about it in an article, though.

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    Dr. Conspiracy November 7, 2009 at 1:31 pm #

    The loose canons over at Orly’s place continue to run roughshod over individuals and their privacy. They have again dragged out the David R___ misidentfication, now they have posted the full name and address of Jim C____ from California.

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    G November 7, 2009 at 1:33 pm #

    Look, I totally understand and support the concept of fight fire with fire, but there still remains an ethical way to do that, without resorting to tactics that would make you no better that their side.

    I think the point everyone here is trying to make is that spreading lies or unsupportable allegations is WRONG, no matter who is doing it.

    That is what they do. You can be better than that. Go ahead and slam them for their bad behavior and their lies, but stick to truth and reality to combat them.

    Pointing out that their actions are NOT patriotic and are hateful, disgusting and borderline seditious/treasonous and that they deserve scorn, scrutiny ridicule and possible legal punishment for their actions is completely fine.

    Warning them that their vile behavior should not be tolerated in a civil society is fine.

    Scolding them that they should be held responsible if any acts of violence or hate result from their actions and incitements and that they are complete hypocrites whose own statements/actions are opposite to the “patriotism” and very Constitution they purport to represent, is completely fine too.

    They should be warned. They should be scorned. They should receive pressure that their ugly lies and antics will not be tolerated and mocked. But those warnings should never cross the line into direct threats against their lives nor into stooping to their level to make up smears or Glen Beck-style meaningless “connect-the-dots”.

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    Miss M November 7, 2009 at 3:08 pm #

    I don’t believe that two wrongs make a right. And taking the “high road” is a relative term to me. So Mr. Aziz spoke his mind. He wasn’t afraid to give to her what she puts out, right? K-A-R-M-A. More power to you. Just know that she likes to fight. Be ready to fight her back. She doesn’t deserve kindness in any way!! She is evil. She should be deported for the damage she has caused. She is trying to incite violence against our president!!!!

    If I saw her in person, Lord knows what I would do to her or want to do to her. I would look her in the eyes and tell her what I think of her!! I will show her how it feels to have done to her what she is asking for her minions to do to our President. She is a disease.

    To anyone who has the cajones to take her on is first class in my book.

  57. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy November 7, 2009 at 3:12 pm #

    Nobody taught me Internet ethics. It something you just have to discover through trial and error.

  58. avatar
    Miss M November 7, 2009 at 3:13 pm #

    She makes crazy fashionable

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    misha November 7, 2009 at 5:23 pm #

    I’ve sent her some rotten e-mails, with insults in Yiddish and Russian.

    My favorite in Russian was “KGB lives!”

    Heh, heh.

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    misha November 7, 2009 at 5:33 pm #

    “Glen Beck-style meaningless “connect-the-dots”.

    Like connecting Glenn Beck to that rape and murder in 1990? I’m having fun with it.

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    The troll of many names November 7, 2009 at 6:14 pm #

    No one has directly threatened their lives , Ever as far as I know.. Not sure where that is coming from…

    G:
    Look, I totally understand and support the concept of fight fire with fire, but there still remains an ethical way to do that, without resorting to tactics that would make you no better that their side.
    I think the point everyone here is trying to make is that spreading lies or unsupportable allegations is WRONG, no matter who is doing it.
    That is what they do.You can be better than that.Go ahead and slam them for their bad behavior and their lies, but stick to truth and reality to combat them.
    Pointing out that their actions are NOT patriotic and are hateful, disgusting and borderline seditious/treasonous and that they deserve scorn, scrutiny ridicule and possible legal punishment for their actions is completely fine.
    Warning them that their vile behavior should not be tolerated in a civil society is fine.
    Scolding them that they should be held responsible if any acts of violence or hate result from their actions and incitements and that they are complete hypocrites whose own statements/actions are opposite to the “patriotism” and very Constitution they purport to represent, is completely fine too.
    They should be warned.They should be scorned.They should receive pressure that their ugly lies and antics will not be tolerated and mocked.But those warnings should never cross the line into direct threats against their lives nor into stooping to their level to make up smears or Glen Beck-style meaningless “connect-the-dots”.

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    G November 7, 2009 at 9:42 pm #

    I didn’t mean to imply that you had threatened their lives. I do not think that you did. My apologies if it came off that way.

    My statement towards the end was only meant to state that none of us should cross the line that they do all the time. They have made threats against judges, against anyone who disagrees with them, etc. All I meant to say is that we should never stoop to their level.

    Also, it was meant as a response to how Orly views your statements against her as a personal threat (which they aren’t)…which is nothing more that pure projection from her part, as she is the queen of making threats. And the point being is that no one should need to stoop to the level of how Orly and her band of fools operate in order to rebut, ridicule or chastise them.

    Again, please accept my apologies for coming across wrong. I totally don’t view your post to her as crossing that line into threats.