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Bizarre contact

I get these really bizarre items from the blog contact form from time to time and they go something like this one from today:

Name: [redacted]

Email: [redacted]

Comments: I would like to know how to contact Orly Taitz, candidate for Secretary of State.

As President of Republican [organization name redacted], I am interested in her as a Speaker at our meetings. We meet the 4th Monday of the month.

Want to know about her ongoing lawsuit re Obama, citizenship, and social security number. Need some updated information on what is happening.

Please email or call me regarding Ms. Taitz’ phone number or email address.. I am at [phone number redacted]

In response, I did the meanest, most hurtful thing I could think of. I gave her Orly’s number. 👿

33 Responses to Bizarre contact

  1. avatar
    Tomtech May 28, 2010 at 1:16 am #

    Find someone to report on the meeting. I’m sure this organization, or the local Democrats, could use the press coming from them being associated with Orly

  2. avatar
    US Citizen May 28, 2010 at 1:20 am #

    “I did the meanest, most hurtful thing I could think of.”

    Oh no you didn’t.
    You did the meanest, most hurtful thing a normal person with character does.
    There’s far more possible in your imagination and as reality could muster.

  3. avatar
    richCares May 28, 2010 at 1:32 am #

    a link to Orly’s infested web site would have been better.

  4. avatar
    G May 28, 2010 at 1:51 am #

    Hilarious! >–)

  5. avatar
    Arthur May 28, 2010 at 5:25 am #

    Dr. C.:

    An alternative response might have been, “Well, I don’t know how to contact her, but I bet if you get in touch with Charles E. Lincoln IIII, he’ll be able to help you.”

  6. avatar
    DaveH May 28, 2010 at 7:55 am #

    Doc C. Are you “pimp’n” Orly? Shame on you… I like Arthur’s suggestion. Direct them the CEL3.

  7. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy May 28, 2010 at 8:05 am #

    It amazes me why anyone would think that THIS is Orly Taitz’s web site, but they do. I note that a Google search for “orly taitz obama social security number” does list this site at the end of the first page. (Note that Google customizes results for individual searchers now. Your mileage may vary.)

  8. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy May 28, 2010 at 8:07 am #

    Several remarks that I wrote in the email response were deleted including “it’s your funeral.”

  9. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy May 28, 2010 at 8:07 am #

    I suppose I could forwarded it to Kornhaber.

  10. avatar
    Dave May 28, 2010 at 8:23 am #

    You could have suggested they have a panel discussion, with Taitz, Kreep, Berg, and Martin. Definitely Martin.

  11. avatar
    DaveH May 28, 2010 at 8:43 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: I suppose I could forwarded it to Kornhaber.

    I’m sure Spencer would appreciate that.

  12. avatar
    BatGuano May 28, 2010 at 11:39 am #

    just saw someone claim on the oc weekly blog that orly hasn’t released a campaign finance disclosure form yet. does anyone know when this is supposed to be released by candidates ?

  13. avatar
    Arthur May 28, 2010 at 1:41 pm #

    BatGuano:

    It wouldn’t surprise me if our shayna maidel hasn’t released information about her campaign finances, since she still hasn’t paid the $20,000 fine levied by Judge Land last year.

    And speaking of releasing information, during an interview with the Russian Times, Rand Paul made it known that he’s in favor of violating the 14th Amendment. Rand said, “We shouldn’t provide an easy route to citizenship. We’re the only country that I know that allows people to come in illegally, have a baby, and then that baby becomes a citizen. And I think that should stop.”

    Here is the link to the full story at Talking Points Memo:
    http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/05/rand-paul-children-of-illegal-immigrants-should-not-be-us-citizens-video.php?ref=fpb

  14. avatar
    Scientist May 28, 2010 at 2:24 pm #

    Arthur: Rand said, “We shouldn’t provide an easy route to citizenship. We’re the only country that I know that allows people to come in illegally, have a baby, and then that baby becomes a citizen

    I guess Rand hasn’t heard of Canada then. Here is Canadian law on the subject:

    “The immigration status of the parents at the time of the Canadian citizenship child’s birth is not relevant to the child’s eligibility for Canadian citizenship. A child born in Canada to two illegal alien parents would still be considered a Canadian citizen. ” There is an exception regarding diplomats as there is here.

    http://www.americanlaw.com/cdncitborn.html

  15. avatar
    Walter White May 28, 2010 at 4:36 pm #

    http://www.runorlyrun.com

    Vote for Orly!

    If you don’t vote for Orly, then you got mommy issues and shouldn’t be voting.

  16. avatar
    BugZptr May 28, 2010 at 4:49 pm #

    This was linked to on Slashdot :

    Quite interesting if viewed in context of “Where’s the Birth Certificate?”

    The following is from an article on Ars Technica: http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2010/05/when-science-clashes-with-belief-make-science-impotent.ars

    ‘It’s hardly a secret that large segments of the population choose not to accept scientific data because it conflicts with their predefined beliefs: economic, political, religious, or otherwise. But many studies have indicated that these same people aren’t happy with viewing themselves as anti-science, which can create a state of cognitive dissonance. That has left psychologists pondering the methods that these people use to rationalize the conflict. A study published in the Journal of Applied Social Psychology takes a look at one of these methods, which the authors term “scientific impotence” — the decision that science can’t actually address the issue at hand properly.’ The study found that ‘regardless of whether the information presented confirmed or contradicted [the subjects’] existing beliefs, all of them came away from the reading with their beliefs strengthened.”

  17. avatar
    G May 28, 2010 at 4:50 pm #

    Hey, I’m all for Orly winning her primary…just to keep the entertainment flowing!

    Bring on the popcorn! 😉

  18. avatar
    Arthur May 28, 2010 at 5:06 pm #

    Scientist:

    Thanks for the information about Canadian immigration policy. Like Rand Paul, I didn’t know what the policy was. Unlike Rand Paul, I think Canadian (and U.S.) policy is humane and proper.

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    Arthur May 28, 2010 at 5:25 pm #

    Walter White: http://www.runorlyrun.comVote for Orly!If you don’t vote for Orly, then you got mommy issues and shouldn’t be voting.

    Maybe I’m just a naive, Corporal O’Reilly-type, but I had to look up what “mommy issues” means. One site described a man with mommy issues as someone whose mother is “unstable, cruel, demanding, possessive, controlling, and sometimes outright insane.” To me, that description sound a lot like Dr. Orly Taitz, Esquire, and it illustrates the kind of matriarch the typical birther must have grown up with.

  20. avatar
    Scientist May 28, 2010 at 5:44 pm #

    Arthur: Scientist:Thanks for the information about Canadian immigration policy. Like Rand Paul, I didn’t know what the policy was. Unlike Rand Paul, I think Canadian (and U.S.) policy is humane and proper.

    I’m doing some research on how various countries treat the citizenship of children born within their borders:

    We know that Canada and the US take no notice of the parent’s status

    Australia and New Zealand require one parent to be a citizen or permanent resident for the child to be a citizen

    France allows a child of 2 foreign parents to apply for citizenship at 18

    Germany requires at least one parent to have lived in Germany for 8 years

    What I have been unable to find is any country that follows the birther dictum that BOTH parents must be citizens for the child to acquire citizenship. I suspect that rule only applies in Lower Birfestan.

  21. avatar
    Sef May 28, 2010 at 5:53 pm #

    Scientist: What I have been unable to find is any country that follows the birther dictum that BOTH parents must be citizens for the child to acquire citizenship. I suspect that rule only applies in Lower Birfestan.

    What would be really interesting would be the requirements in Switzerland in the 18th century. IOW, did even de Vattel’s country subscribe to his ideas.

  22. avatar
    Arthur May 28, 2010 at 6:10 pm #

    Wha . . . wait a minute; so you’re saying that quite a few countries, even the old timey ones like France and Germany don’t follow the standards of St. Vattel? My God, Dr. Orly Taitz Esquire needs to know about this immediately!! Somebody tell Dr. C. to email her about this!!! I have a sneaking suspicion that Lady Liberty may be ill-informed — and not just about peroxide– but about the laws of nations. Oh, the poor dear–this will be very embarrassing for her, I’m sure!

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    Scientist May 28, 2010 at 7:38 pm #

    Sef: What would be really interesting would be the requirements in Switzerland in the 18th century. IOW, did even de Vattel’s country subscribe to his ideas.

    I don’t know what Swiss law was in Vattel’s, but here is current Swiss law:

    “A person is a Swiss citizen at birth (whether born in Switzerland or not) if he or she is:

    born to a Swiss father or mother, if parents are married
    born to a Swiss mother, if parents are not married”

    Note that it says father OR mother. So a Swiss Obama would be a birth citizen.

    Britain requires one parent to be a citizen or “settled in the UK” (similar to a permanent resident alien)

    Japan says:

    “When either parent is a Japanese national at the time of birth”

    China says the same.

    So the so-called “Law of Nations” requiring 2 citizen parents is not used by any actual nations. Except Lower Birfestan.

  24. avatar
    Sef May 28, 2010 at 7:45 pm #

    Scientist:
    I don’t know what Swiss law was in Vattel’s, but here is current Swiss law:“A person is a Swiss citizen at birth (whether born in Switzerland or not) if he or she is:born to a Swiss father or mother, if parents are married
    born to a Swiss mother, if parents are not married”Note that it says father OR mother.So a Swiss Obama would be a birth citizen.Britain requires one parent to be a citizen or “settled in the UK” (similar to a permanent resident alien)Japan says:
    “When either parent is a Japanese national at the time of birth”China says the same.So the so-called “Law of Nations” requiring 2 citizen parents is not used by any actual nations.Except Lower Birfestan.

    There ya go agin, confusing the birthers with facts.

  25. avatar
    Slartibartfast May 29, 2010 at 4:51 am #

    Doc C,

    Isn’t providing someone with Dr. Orly’s contact info a violation of the Geneva Convention or some such? It must be considered ‘psychological warfare’ or ‘cruel and unusual punishment’ or something similar. Why didn’t you do something kind and waterboard the person or give them the ‘Clockwork Orange’ treatment?

  26. avatar
    katahdin May 29, 2010 at 8:20 am #

    chufho: Obama offered Colorado Democrat Andrew Romanoff a job too to get out of a primary

    Oh no! The president’s following long-standing normal political practices in trying to protect the Democratic Congressional majority! Start the impeachment proceedings NOW!!!!!!
    [wingnut mode off]

    Seriously, it’s pathetic how desperately the Republicans are grasping at any straw to try to portray President Obama as corrupt. That dog won’t hunt. People remember the ridiculous witch hunt Republicans conducted against President Clinton, and how they impeached him as an exercise in partisan politics.
    The fact is that President Obama is clean, and hyping ordinary political horse-trading as some kind of scandal just makes Republicans look shrill and desperate.

  27. avatar
    Paul Pieniezny May 29, 2010 at 8:36 am #

    Scientist: France allows a child of 2 foreign parents to apply for citizenship at 18

    If at least one of them is domiciled in France. So illegals or tourists do not qualify, but students do, if one of them was registered at the mairie. Seems like Bobby Jindal would not have any problem in France.

    Residency is only required of foreigners. My brother-in-law got double nationality since he was born in a maternity ward just across the border in France and his mother while domiciled in Belgium had, unknown to her even, French nationality. She was born in the same maternity ward and had a French mother…

    Germany requires at least one parent to have lived in Germany for 8 years

    At least three of which must be legal residence. The other five can be proven by witnesses. So, basically, the US and Canada are not the only one who take illlegal residence into account.

    What I have been unable to find is any country that follows the birther dictum that BOTH parents must be citizens for the child to acquire citizenship. I suspect that rule only applies in Lower Birfestan.

  28. avatar
    Scientist May 29, 2010 at 10:28 am #

    Paul et al- A couple of thoughts:

    1. Pertinent to President Obama. As we have seen, not a single country on Earth, including de Vattel’s home country, denies full and complete citizenship (including the right to hold all elective offices) to a child of one of their citizens born on their soil. To pretend that the US founding fathers intended to do so is to pretend that they were intellectual and moral fools. That essentially is what you would have to believe if you wish to be a birther.

    2. The issue of the citizenship of the children of 2 illegal aliens is more complex. I can see an intellectual and moral foundation for the Australian/New Zealand/French position that one parent must be legally admitted to the country.

  29. avatar
    Lupin May 29, 2010 at 12:17 pm #

    Scientist: So the so-called “Law of Nations” requiring 2 citizen parents is not used by any actual nations.

    I think it has been clearly demonstrated that this is a purposeful mistranslation from the part of the birthers.

    There is of course no such rule in Vattel’s.

  30. avatar
    Sef May 29, 2010 at 12:24 pm #

    Lupin:
    I think it has been clearly demonstrated that this is a purposeful mistranslation from the part of the birthers.
    There is of course no such rule in Vattel’s.

    Does anyone know of any contemporaneous commentaries on de Vattel’s treatise? Especially British that would show that this is not how the British world worked.

  31. avatar
    G May 29, 2010 at 4:23 pm #

    Scientist: 2. The issue of the citizenship of the children of 2 illegal aliens is more complex. I can see an intellectual and moral foundation for the Australian/New Zealand/French position that one parent must be legally admitted to the country.

    Agreed.

  32. avatar
    Jay Bea May 30, 2010 at 9:37 am #

    Doc, did you examine the header on the email? Call me devious, but it’s probably from one of Orly’s supporters (such as Walter White), in an effort to let you know, in an oh-so-clever way, how immensely popular and in-demand she is as a candidate.

    I would have answered, “Orly who? Never heard of her.” For the fun.

  33. avatar
    misha May 30, 2010 at 9:23 pm #

    “Orly Taitz? Sounds exotic. Where does she live (if she’s still alive)? I vaguely remember hearing that name some time ago. What does she do? Put me in touch with her, if you come across her address. She may have gone to high school with me, but I hardly remember everyone from my class.”